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RIGHT. 
          GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. 
          THE TIME IS NOW 8:03 PM WE'LL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. 
          THIS IS THE MOR THE MEETING OF THE CITY COMMISSION, UH, WORKSHOP. 
          IT HAS BEEN DULY POSTED AS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW. 
          WE DO HAVE A QUORUM OF THE COMMISSION, AND I DO BELIEVE WE'LL HAVE TWO, UH, COMMISSIONER FROM DISTRICT ONE AND FOUR THAT WILL BE JOINING US SHORTLY. 
          BUT WE WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. 
          AND IS, UH, WILL YOU GO AHEAD AND READ THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST? I DON'T SEE. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          UNDERSTATE LAW, CONFLICT OF INTEREST EXIST IF A COMMISSION MEMBER OR CERTAIN MEMBERS OF THE, OF THAT PERSON'S FAMILY HAS A QUALIFYING FINANCIAL INTEREST IN AN AGENDA ITEM. 
          MEMBERS WITH A CONFLICT OF INTEREST CANNOT PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSION NOR VOTE ON THE AGENDA ITEM. 
          ARE THERE ANY KNOWN CONFLICT OF INTEREST TO DISCUSS AT THIS TIME? NONE. 
          NONE. 
          NONE, NONE. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO CITIZENS COMMUNICATION AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY FOR TODAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO, OKAY, NOW MOVING ON TO ITEM FOUR. 
          WE'LL BE DISCUSSION TO PRIORITIZE PROJECTS FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, DOWNTOWN PLAN AND PARKS PLAN. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT. 
          THANK YOU STAFF FOR BEING HERE ON A SATURDAY MORNING. 
          A BRIGHT AND HAPPY SATURDAY MORNING. 
          YEAH. 
          FOR EVERYBODY. 
          . 
          UH, AND, UH, MOVING ALONG, WE HAVE . 
          UM, EVERYONE, UH, 
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WAS GIVEN A COPY OF THE, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE PARKS PLAN, AND THE, UM, THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN. 
          UH, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO TODAY IS GO OVER THOSE PROJECTS THAT WERE LISTED IN THE PLAN AND COME UP WITH A PRIORITY LIST THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE STAFF TO FOCUS ON. 
          WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS JUST HAND OUT, UH, A COPY OF WHAT WE DID LAST TIME AND WHAT THAT REPORT DOESN'T MAKE TO LOOK LIKE THIS. 
          BUT, UM, EXCUSE ME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER. 
          MORALE. 
          DO YOU HAVE A CONFLICT? NO. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE RECORD. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WHAT I HANDED OUT IS A RANKING OF THE PROJECTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE LAST COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          UM, THE, THE ENTIRE PROCESS WAS JUST A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WE WENT THROUGH THIS TIME. 
          UH, BUT IT STARTED BACK IN 2013 AND WE CAME UP WITH A PRIORITY LIST OF PROJECTS, UH, IN A SIMILAR FASHION, UH, JUST LIKE THIS. 
          IT WAS A COMMISSION THAT GOT TOGETHER, UH, WENT THROUGH THE, UH, PROJECTS IDENTIFIED IN THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN, AND THEN WE RANKED THEM, UM, STARTING WITH, UH, WITH NUMBER ONE, WHICH OBVIOUSLY MEANS THAT THE HIGHEST PRIORITY. 
          NOW, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE GONNA FOCUS OUR ENERGY AUTOMATICALLY ON PROJECT NUMBER ONE, WHATEVER THAT MAY BE. 
          UH, THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT STATES THAT THIS IS WHAT THE COMMISSION WANTS TO GET DONE FIRST. 
          BUT IF AN OPPORTUNITY COMES FOR ANOTHER PROJECT THAT MAY BE RANKED FIFTH OR SIXTH TO BE FUNDED AND ADOPTED MM-HMM . 
          THEN THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO, I'D LIKE TO COME UP WITH THE SAME THING TODAY. 
          AGAIN, IT DOES NOT HAVE TO LOOK JUST LIKE THIS, BUT THIS WAS THE, UH, THE FORMAT OF, OF WHAT I THINK, UH, OF WHAT WE DID LAST TIME. 
          SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND AND YOU, YOU COULD REFER TO THAT. 
          UH, AND ONE THING, UH, TODAY, THE ONLY THING I'D LIKE TO ACCOMPLISH IS THAT WE RANKED THE PROJECTS. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          AND I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO KEEP THE RANKING BY, BY, UH, BY COMPONENT. 
          FOR INSTANCE, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WILL HAVE ITS OWN RANKING. 
          PARKS PLAN WILL HAVE ITS OWN RANKING, AND THEN THE DOWNTOWN PLAN WILL HAVE ITS OWN, AND THEN WE CAN FOCUS ON ALL THREE AT THE SAME TIME. 
          WE CAN MULTITASK THAT WAY AND THEN JUST KEEP, UH, KEEP MOVING FORWARD ON WHATEVER PROJECTS THE COMMISSION IDENTIFIES. 
          I DID ASK STAFF TO COME UP WITH, UM, UH, FROM THE PLAN, A LIST OF THE PROJECTS THAT THEY, UH, CONSIDERED A PRIORITY, UH, SPECIFICALLY, UH, ALEXIS, ANA AND DANNY PRESENTED PROJECTS, SUBMITTED THEM TO ME. 
          I, I LOOKED 'EM OVER. 
          AND FROM THE PLAN THAT EVERYBODY HAS, I CAME UP WITH A LIST, UH, END PRIORITY OF WHAT I THOUGHT WE SHOULD LOOK AT. 
          I'M GONNA HAND THAT OUT RIGHT NOW. 
          YOU'VE SEEN ALL THESE PROJECTS BEFORE. 
          THEY'RE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE PARKS PLAN, AND THE YOU PASS ONE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON ANYTHING? ON THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA? NONE. 
          OKAY. 
          NO. 
          FOR DISTRICT ONE, FOR THE RECORD. 
          THANKS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, THIS IS A LIST OF PROJECTS THAT, UH, EACH OF THE DIRECTORS IS RESPONSIBLE FOR. 
          THOSE CERTAIN AREAS THAT WE'RE GONNA COVER CAME UP WITH. 
          I LOOKED AT 'EM, UM, AND IN MOST CASES, I, I AGREED WITH THE DIRECTOR. 
          I DID MAKE A FEW CHOICES, I MEAN, A FEW CHANGES. 
          UM, BUT IN ESSENCE, THIS IS WHAT THEY SUBMITTED AS OUR PRIORITY FOR THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT TODAY. 
          AGAIN, THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE COMMISSION HAS TO ADOPT THESE AS PRESENTED. 
          UH, AND, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE, THE, THE PROJECTS, A LOT OF THESE ARE GONNA BE, UM, PRETTY, UH, EXPENSIVE. 
          SO IT, IT WILL TAKE A WHILE GOING FROM BEGINNING, UH, ALL THE WAY TO COMPLETION. 
          AND SO IN THE ORIGINAL PLAN, I THINK WE ADOPTED 1918 PROJECTS, WHAT IT WAS, UM, 17 PROJECTS. 
          SO I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE PLANS AND RANK EACH PROJECT. 
          I THINK WE JUST NEED TO RANK THE ONES THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS 
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ON. 
          SO, WITH THAT SAID, UH, ROLANDO IS HERE FROM THE LIBRARY. 
          HE'S GONNA HELP US. 
          UM, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS, UM, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE HERE FROM EIGHT TO FOUR. 
          FOUR IS A HARD STOP. 
          FOUR O'CLOCK, WE'RE GONNA STOP WHETHER WE'RE FINISHED OR NOT. 
          SO I'VE BEEN TELLING THE STAFF 11, EIGHT TO 11, OH, THAT'S YOU. 
          WAS THAT A MOTION? NO, NO. 
          I'M SAYING THIS BECAUSE YOU GUYS DID ALL THIS HARD WORK. 
          IT KIND OF JUST STREAMLINES THE WHOLE PROCESS FOR US. 
          OKAY. 
          I HAVEN'T SEEN IT, BUT IT LOOKS OKAY. 
          WELL, YOU, YOU HAVE SEEN THE PROJECT, SO YOU JUST HAVEN'T SEEN THE RANKING. 
          CORRECT. 
          CORRECT. 
          WE CAN CHANGE IT FROM HERE, BUT, OH, WE WILL TRY TO LEAVE AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE AND HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY CAN ENJOY LUNCH, AND THEN WE CAN GO HOME AND, AND, AND, AND CONTINUE ON WITH OUR, WITH OUR DAYS. 
          SO LET'S JUST BE EFFICIENT. 
          OKAY. 
          NO, THAT WAS A MOTION AND THAT WAS A SECOND. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE LEAVING AT NOON TODAY. 
          GOOD. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO I'D LIKE TO START WITH THE DOWNTOWN PLAN AND THEN GO ON TO THE, UH, UH, PARKS PLAN. 
          AND THEN FROM THERE, UH, FINISH UP WITH THE COMFORT TO PLAN. 
          UH, INITIALLY I THOUGHT WE WOULD SPEND NO MORE THAN TWO HOURS ON EACH ONE, BUT GIVEN THE NEW DIRECTION FROM THE COMMISSION, WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT FASTER. 
          SO, UM, GABE, I DID THINK WE COULD HAVE, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT WE PUT IN A LOT OF WORK INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITH OUR, UH, CONSULTANTS, BUT I DO THINK THAT IT MIGHT BE, UH, WITH OUR WHILE TO ANTICIPATE HAVING A CER A SECOND WORKSHOP ONCE EVERYTHING HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED. 
          UM, SO OH YEAH. 
          THAT WAY WE'RE NOT REALLY PRESSING FOR. 
          RIGHT. 
          GETTING EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, OUT AND DONE RIGHT NOW, MAYOR, WHAT I WAS HOPING THAT WE COULD DO TODAY IS JUST IDENTIFY THE, THE NUMBERING SYSTEM FOR THE VARIOUS PROJECTS, IDENTIFY THOSE PROJECTS, AND THEN WE'D GO BACK TO STAFF, COME UP WITH, UH, MORE INFORMATION LIKE THE COST, UH, FOR EACH OF THESE. 
          UM, ASSIGN RESPONSIBILITY OF WHAT DEPARTMENT'S GONNA OVERSEE, UH, AND JUST PROVIDE YOU WITH MORE DETAILS. 
          AND THEN AT THAT POINT, PUT IT ALL TOGETHER IN SOME SORT OF PAMPHLET. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, KIND OF LIKE SIMILAR TO THIS. 
          AND THEN WE ADOPT IT FORMALLY. 
          SO WE MIGHT, THAT MIGHT REQUIRE ONE OR TWO MORE MEETINGS, I WOULD IMAGINE. 
          SOUNDS GOOD. 
          AND THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE ON A SATURDAY. 
          THEY COULD JUST BE DURING THE COMMISSION MEETING. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, BECAUSE WE WOULD'VE ALREADY ACCOMPLISHED THE MAJORITY OF THE WORK. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO, OKAY. 
          SO WITH THAT IN MIND, UH, IF WE COULD START WITH THE DOWNTOWN PLAN. 
          UM, THE, UH, JUST TO POINT OUT THE FIRST, UM, THE FIRST SIX PROJECTS WERE IDENTIFIED. 
          NO, NO, I'M SORRY. 
          THAT'S THE, I'M GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF. 
          THAT'S THE PARKS PLAN. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE GOOD. 
          UM, IDENTIFIED THE, THE, UH, THE PUBLIC SPACE ACTIVATION, UH, FOR ALLEY IMPROVEMENTS. 
          IF I CAN JUST HOP IN REAL QUICK. 
          SURE. 
          ALEXIS, YOU'RE THE ONE THAT PUT TOGETHER THE DOWNTOWN PLAN ONE TO 10 MM-HMM . 
          ALRIGHT. 
          JUST, I DIDN'T RAISE UP, I JUST LISTED IN SHORT TERM, MID TIME AND LONG TERM GOALS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          SO LOOKING AT THIS SHEET, WHAT IS, WHAT IS YOUR SHORT TERM GOALS? SURE. 
          SO FIRST ONE IS INCREASING DOWNTOWN HOUSING FOR, UH, SECOND STORY RESIDENTIAL, UM, INCENTIVES. 
          WE HAVE A LOT OF BUILDINGS THAT HAVE SECOND STORIES. 
          SO THAT'S OUR FIRST STEP IS TO TRY TO GET SOME TYPES OF INCENTIVES TO PRODUCE THAT SECOND STORY DEVELOPMENT, UM, PUBLIC SPACE ACTIVATION AS FAR AS ALLEY IMPROVEMENTS, THAT IS WHAT MR. GONZALEZ SAID. 
          ALEXIS, COULD I STOP, UH, INTERRUPT YOU REAL QUICK FOR A MINUTE. 
          UH, CHIEF, WE HAD DONE SOME WORK ON HER FIRST PRIORITY THAT SHE MENTIONED, WHICH WAS TO ALLOW FOR RESIDENTIAL, UH, SPRINKLER SYSTEMS ON THE SECOND FLOOR, UH, ANY FACILITY IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA TO MAKE IT SUITABLE FOR MIXED USE, WHICH WOULD BE PRIMARILY A HOME OF SOME SORT. 
          UH, NOW WE HAVEN'T CHANGED ANY OF THE, UM, OF THE BUILDING CODES THAT WOULD PROHIBIT THAT, RIGHT? NO, IT'D BE EXPENSIVE, BUT, OKAY. 
          REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD THE THC COME DOWN, ALEXIS DID A GREAT JOB, UH, BROUGHT THEM DOWN. 
          THEY TALKED ABOUT HOW WE HAVE A FIRE DISTRICT IN DOWNTOWN. 
          UH, CHIEF, HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO TAKE A PEEK AT THAT? A HIGHER DID, WHICH HAS ITS OWN REGULATIONS? I WAS HOPING IF PART OF NUMBER ONE OR ITEM EIGHT ON OUR LIST, WHICH IS THAT DOWNTOWN AREA, CAN YOU GUYS TAKE A PEEK AT THAT? SEE IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE CAN MODERNIZE IT? AND IF YOU COULD LOOK AT IT WITH PLANNING TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN OBVIOUSLY ACHIEVE YOUR GOAL, WHICH IS, UH, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY, RIGHT. 
          AND THEN NUMBER ONE, AND PROPERTY SAFETY BE NUMBER TWO. 
          AND SEEING IF THERE'S ANY RED TAPE WE CAN CUT FROM THERE. 
          SURE. 
          OR ANYTHING, ANY WAY WE CAN MODERNIZE IT SO IT'S NOT SO COST PROHIBIT, BUT WE ARE STILL ABLE TO ACHIEVE THE GOALS YOU WANT. 
          SO, UH, CHIEF, GETTING BACK TO THAT 
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FIRST ISSUE ABOUT THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM, WOULD THAT ACTUALLY, UH, TAKE CARE OF NUMBER EIGHT TO SOME DEGREE OR, WE DON'T HAVE YOUR LIST. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, DO YOU WANNA MAKE MY YES, PLEASE. 
          COULD YOU PLEASE? I'M SORRY, I ONLY MADE NO, NO, NO, THAT'S FINE. 
          LEMME MAKE COPIES OF THE ONE. 
          IT, IT'S THE ONE YOU SUBMITTED, ALEXIS, BUT IT'S NOT, UM, YOU REORDERED IT. 
          YES, I DID. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL ANYWAYS, IF YOU GUYS CAN JUST TAKE A PEEK AT THAT Y'ALL TWO, UH, WITH, WITH, UH, ON PLANNING, I'D APPRECIATE THAT. 
          WE KNOW IT CAN BE POSSIBLE, RIGHT? IT'S JUST TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THAT FIRE DISTRICT. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND IF WE NEED TO GET RID OF IT, UH, AND OR AMEND IT, CHIEF, WE LEAVE IT TO YOU GUYS. 
          THAT'S WHAT SHE, THE, UH, CODE THAT THE CITY ADOPTED, THE ONE THAT HEARD OF DISTRICT, NEITHER HAD I UNTIL I WENT TO THAT MEETING. 
          SO THAT CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD AS WELL. 
          THIS WHAT STEPS. 
          SO. 
          OKAY. 
          I APPRECIATE YOU LOOKING INTO IT. 
          ON, ON THAT, ON THAT NOTE, ON THE INCREASE DOWNTOWN HOUSING, I DO, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW, THIS IS YOUR DISTRICT, UM, COMMISSIONER, BUT I DO THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY 'CAUSE THAT KIND OF STARTS THE, THE REVITALIZATION AND WHAT THE VISION IS LONG-TERM. 
          SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE A LONG TERM GOAL, NUMBER ONE, AND ALSO A SHORT TERM GOAL YES. 
          TO TO, TO GET THAT DONE. 
          BUT IS THERE, I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE NEXT TIME TO HAVE EDC HERE FOR, FOR THIS, UM, BECAUSE IT, I THINK THAT THE, I KNOW THAT YOU RESTRUCTURED HOW THE INCENTIVES WORK AND KIND OF REMOVED THAT FROM DOWNTOWN TO THE EDC, BUT YOU'RE WORKING REALLY, UM, CLOSELY IN CONNECTION WITH IT. 
          BUT THINK POTENTIALLY THIS MIGHT BE WHERE ALL THE INCENTIVES NEED TO GO IN THAT BUCKET. 
          SO THAT WAY THERE REALLY IS TRULY AN INCENTIVE TO, TO UTILIZE THAT UNTIL OF COURSE THAT IS ACCOMPLISHED. 
          AND THEN MOVING ON TO OTHER THINGS OR SMALLER PORTION OF, OF DOLLARS TO GO TO OTHER, UM, TO OTHER ITEMS. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT BOTH MAYBE THE FOUR B AND THE FOUR A COULD PARTICIPATE IN. 
          'CAUSE IT IS A QUALITY OF LIFE PROJECT TOO. 
          AND THE WHOLE GOAL IS TO MOVE PEOPLE DOWNTOWN SO THEY'RE BUYING THINGS AND THEREFORE, UH, FILLING UP THOSE COFFERS, THE SALES TAX. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I THINK THAT WE SHOULD REALLY LOOK TO SEE WHAT, HOW WE CAN, UM, OF COURSE SAFETY IS PARAMOUNT, RIGHT? SO WE DON'T WANNA CUT CORNERS IN, IN THAT AND IN THAT REGARD AT ALL. 
          BUT IF WE CAN LESSEN THE FINANCIAL BURDEN WITH THOSE DIFFERENT BUCKETS, I THINK WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT GOAL FASTER. 
          YEAH, I AGREE. 
          SO THEN DOES EVERYONE HAVE THIS IN FRONT OF THEM? YES, THAT'S, UM, WHAT, WHAT I HANDED OUT WAS, UH, THESE ARE THE PROJECTS ARE IN THE PLAN, BUT THIS IS WHAT STAFF SUBMITTED REGARDING THEIR, THEIR PROJECTS FROM THE PLANS. 
          AND SO THE FIRST ONE IS THE DOWNTOWN. 
          UH, AND WHAT, WHAT I CAME UP WITH WAS I WENT THROUGH THIS LIST AND CAME UP WITH THE ONE THAT I HANDED OUT TO YOU. 
          UH, JUST REAL QUICK ON NUMBER EIGHT, THE REASON I RANKED IT SO LOW WAS BECAUSE, UM, WE HAD ALREADY ADDRESSED SOMETHING REGARDING THE, UH, SPRINKLER SYSTEM, WHICH WAS REALLY THE BIGGEST COMPONENT OF WHAT PEOPLE WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT. 
          THEY WERE SAYING THAT TO PUT A SPRINKLER SYSTEM IN THE LOFT DOWNTOWN WOULD BE EXTRAORDINARILY EXPENSIVE. 
          AND SO WHAT WE MET WITH THE CHIEF, AND SO WE CAME UP WITH THIS SOLUTION, WHICH WAS TO USE A RESIDENTIAL SPRINKLER SYSTEM, UH, WHICH WOULD LOWER THE COST SUBSTANTIALLY, AND THEN IT WOULD MAKE IT ELIGIBLE FOR, FOR, UM, FOR SOMEONE TO HAVE, SAY A RETAIL ON THE BOTTOM AND THEN HAVE A HOME OR A RENTAL PROPERTY ON TOP. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO, SO I THOUGHT WE HAD ALREADY KIND OF TAKEN CARE OF THIS, SO THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T MAKE IT MY NUMBER ONE. 
          BUT I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT, LIKE THE MAYOR, COMMISSIONER OFFICE MENTIONED THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS. 
          AND SO IF WE CAN STILL IMPROVE UPON THAT, I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE IT NUMBER ONE. 
          I AGREE. 
          MR. VANNA WHITE, WOULD WE PUT DOWN THEN INCREASE COMPOUND HOUSING  AS NUMBER ONE, THEN IT'S GONNA GO HOME. 
          , ROLANDO? THAT WAS A COMPLIMENT. 
          YES. 
          IT DIDN'T SOUND, IT DIDN'T SOUND LIKE ONE, BUT IT IS, I WILL JUST SAY, SAY THE CITY WOULD NOT HAPPEN AS SMOOTHLY AS IT DOES WITHOUT THE EXCEPTIONAL HELP OF THE LIBRARY. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO LET'S, UH, , LET'S BE NICE. 
          I HAD THE SENSE OF HUMOR, SO IT'S OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          , I, I FIGURED HE KNEW THAT JOKE WAS COMING. 
          LIKE THAT WAS LIKE THE LOW HANGING FRUIT. 
          EXACTLY. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          THAT BIG ENOUGH THAT Y'ALL NEED IT A LITTLE BIT BIGGER. 
          THAT'S PERFECT. 
          THAT'S GOOD. 
          I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. 
          I KNOW THE A DC DOES THE REVITALIZED BARING GRANT, AND MOST OF IT IS FOR EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS, AND 25% OF IT IS FOR INTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS. 
          NOW, SPRINKLER 
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SYSTEMS, IT, THE WAY THE GRANT WORKS IS YOU HAVE TO SPEND MORE ON THE OUTSIDE THAN ON THE INSIDE, RIGHT? SO I KNOW A LOT OF TIMES THE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS ARE THE MAIN THING THAT THEY WANNA HELP WITH FUNDING, BUT IT'S ONLY 25% THAT IS AVAILABLE AND YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ON THE OUTSIDE IN ORDER FOR THAT 25% TO KICK IN. 
          SO MAYBE SPEAKING WITH THE EDC ABOUT GETTING IT MAYBE A 50 50 OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING DIFFERENT AS FAR AS PERCENTAGE TO ALLOW THEM TO GET SOME FUNDING FOR SPRINKLER SYSTEMS, THAT WORKS FOR ME. 
          AND WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION MOVING FORWARD. 
          UH, I THINK TO, TO GABE'S POINT, WE CAN PRIORITIZE AND THEN WE CAN STRATEGIZE AFTERWARDS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          COOL. 
          YEAH. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE PLAN. 
          AND I THINK WE CAN DEFINITELY SOLVE, UM, THAT ISSUE. 
          BUT THAT'S WHY I THINK THERE'S GOING TO, I KNOW THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, MAKING SURE THAT IT'S A WORKSHOP WITH EVERYONE, BUT WE MIGHT WANT TO RECONSIDER SOME OF THESE, UM, KIND OF MICRO TYPE OF GOALS ALSO, AND, AND IN CREATING COMMITTEES FOR, WITHIN THE COMMISSION FOR CERTAIN PROJECTS AND JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE FOR EVERYONE AS, AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF REVISIT THAT ONCE WE FINISH HERE TODAY AND SEE IF THAT'S WORTH EVEN ENTERTAINING. 
          MAYOR. 
          I THINK THAT'S GREAT. 
          YEAH, I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD, WE COULD PROBABLY CONSIDER ALSO IS HAVING SUBCOMMITTEES FOR SAY, THE DOWNTOWN ONE FOR THE PARKS AND THEN ONE FOR THE, UH, THE, JUST 'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME, SOME WORK TO CONTINUE TO PUSH FORWARD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SOMETHING ELSE I THINK WE SHOULD PUT IN THE, THE SHORT TERM, UH, TO TAKE IT OUT OF PLACE IS, WELL, C UH, COMMISSIONER, I, I THINK WE'RE JUST GONNA PRIORITIZE THEM. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          I'M TRYING TO MOVE TO NUMBER TWO. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          SO THIS IS, SO THIS IS SHORT TERM. 
          UM, THIS IS WHAT I'M, I WAS, I'M LOOKING AT, THAT'S WHY I ASKED IF EVERYONE ASKED THIS IN FRONT OF THEM. 
          OH. 
          SO THAT THIS, WHAT CAUGHT MY EYE ABOUT YOUR, YOUR LIST, GABE, IS THAT YOUR LIST DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE EVERYTHING LISTED IN OUR PLAN. 
          LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, I DIDN'T NOTICE WILSON, THAT NEEDS, WE NEED TO PUT WILSON AS PRIORITY, WE NEED TO PUT, UH, WHAT'S IT CALLED? A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS. 
          AND SO I LOOKED AT THE MASTER PLAN, SAW THE MASTER PLAN DOESN'T, ISN'T, ISN'T ALIGNED WITH THIS. 
          SO I'M GONNA GO LIKE THIS IF THAT'S OKAY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YEAH, THAT'S FINE. 
          AND, AND AGAIN, UH, I DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE PLAN AND PICK OUT EVERY SINGLE PROJECT. 
          CORRECT. 
          UH, INITIALLY WHEN WE DID THIS, WE ONLY HAD 17 PROJECTS IDENTIFIED. 
          NOW, SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS HAD MULTIPLE, UH, PROJECTS WITHIN IT. 
          CORRECT. 
          UH, BUT, UH, I DIDN'T WANNA, I DIDN'T WANT TO, UH, RANK EVERY SINGLE ONE BECAUSE IT'D BE, WE'D BE HERE FOREVER. 
          PERFECT. 
          FOR THE SLIDESHOW. 
          CAN WE GO TO PAGE 66, PLEASE? IT'S THE SECOND TO LAST PAGE. 
          SO I THINK THE NEXT ITEM ON THE DOWNTOWN PLANT SHOULD BE, UH, DEDICATED DOWNTOWN FUNDING. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO, SO, SO LET ME, UM, I'M NOT FOLLOWING THE ORDER HERE. 
          JUST LOOK AT THIS ONE. 
          YOU WANT, ARE WE, WELL, JUST SO THAT WAY WE CAN STAY ORGANIZED. 
          WE'RE GOING TO DO SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM GOALS AND MIDTERM GOALS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHAT IS, WHAT IS THIS RIGHT NOW? SHORT TERM? WE'RE STILL IN THE SHORT TERM. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST SO YOU KNOW WHAT, I DIDN'T, IN MY PLAN, I DIDN'T IDENTIFY ANY SHORT, LONGER. 
          IT'S JUST PRIORITY. 
          WHICH ONES DO WE GO AFTER FIRST? SO, BUT IN ESSENCE, IT'S, THE FIRST ONE SHOULD BE THE SHORT TERM, RIGHT? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY. 
          I THINK HE HAS, HE'S DOING ALL OF IT, BUT THE FIRST FEW ARE GOING TO BE THE ONES IN THE SHORT TERM AND THEN YOU MOVE DOWN. 
          SO ARE WE REALLY JUST DOING DOUBLE WORK BY DOING THAT? 'CAUSE HE'S GOT NO, 'CAUSE THIS DOES NOT. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT I'M SAYING IS THIS IS MORE COMPREHENSIVE THAN THIS. 
          CORRECT. 
          THAT INCLUDES EVERY PROJECT, I THINK, IN THE PLAN. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND I DIDN'T DO THAT. 
          THAT'S WHAT I FIGURED WE WOULD DO. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU, HOWEVER YOU WANNA DO IT. 
          LIKE, TO YOUR POINT, WE NEED TO BE ORGANIZED NOW WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          SO HOW DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD, I THINK THAT'S FINE, BUT WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CONSISTENT AND WE'RE DOING IT THROUGH, THROUGH THROUGHOUT. 
          AND IF THAT'S THE PLAN, THEN WE MIGHT BE HERE A LITTLE BIT LONGER, BUT WE CAN, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM. 
          BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. 
          BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THAT IN THE NEXT, UM, THAT THOSE, THOSE GOALS ARE NOT LAID OUT THE SAME MOVING FORWARD. 
          IT'S JUST DOWNTOWN. 
          OKAY. 
          DO YOU SEE WHAT, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T MIND. 
          I THINK I JUST WANT US TO BE CONSISTENT SO THAT WAY EVERYTHING LOOKS, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S EASY, IT'S EASY TO NAVIGATE FOR THE PUBLIC WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT IT TO SAY, OKAY, WELL THESE ARE THE GOALS FOR DOWNTOWN, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? WHAT ARE THE SHORT TERM GOALS, MIDTERM GOALS, LONG TERM GOALS. 
          SEE, AND IN THE PARKS PLAN, THE WAY THAT I IDENTIFIED THE PRIORITY PROJECTS WERE ALL THOSE PROJECTS THAT HAD ALREADY RECEIVED GRANT FUNDING, THOSE BECOME A PRIORITY. 
          THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE ALL THE SHORT TERM YEAH. 
          AGREE. 
          NO MATTER WHAT. 
          AGREED. 
          AND SO THERE'S LIKE SEVEN OF THEM. 
          I AGREE WITH THAT. 
          AND SO ALL THOSE ARE, ARE RANKED FROM ONE TO SEVEN. 
          UM, AND THEN AFTER THAT I, I, I RANKED A FEW MORE. 
          UH, BUT THE COMP PLAN, UH, ITSELF, 
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I DIDN'T, UH, I DON'T THINK HAS SHORT OR LONG TERM PROJECTS. 
          WHAT ABOUT Y'ALL? WHAT I MEAN BEFORE WE GET STARTED? SO THAT WAY WE ARE, UM, WE, WE HAVE A PLAN MOVING FORWARD. 
          IS THAT WHAT YOU WANNA DO? SHORT TERM, MIDTERM, LONG TERM GOALS FOR EACH, UM, PLAN DELIA? I AGREE. 
          YES. 
          I THINK THAT'S A GOOD PLAN. 
          SHORT, MID, AND LONG. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          AND THE WAY I GOT THAT ALSO IS THAT IF YOU LOOK AT OUR PLAN, THE, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT ALSO HAS IT LISTED BY SHORT TERM MIDTERM. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT I WAS GOING THROUGH THEIR LITTLE LIST RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW THAT I HADN'T SEEN. 
          OKAY. 
          WORK FOR ME. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SOUNDS GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          SO GOT THAT. 
          'CAUSE WE KIND OF THREW THAT ONE ON YOU AND YOU ONLY HAVE THREE LITTLE DEALS HERE. 
          SO I THINK THAT, UM, WE COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE SHORT AND THEN, UH, MIDTERM AND LONG TERM. 
          AND THEN OBVIOUSLY ONCE WE MOVE ON, WE CAN GO. 
          THAT MIGHT BE EASIER FOR YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SOUNDS GREAT. 
          AND UM, AND I THINK COMMISSIONER, IF WE SAY WE IDENTIFY 10 PLANS TOTAL, 10 PROJECTS TOTAL, AND WE GET THROUGH ALL OF 'EM RELATIVELY QUICK, WE ALWAYS HAVE ANOTHER, ANOTHER MEETING THAT COME UP WITH ADDITIONAL 10 PROJECTS THAT YOU WANT US TO FOCUS ON. 
          SO, UH, BECAUSE A YEAR FROM NOW, A YEAR AND A HALF FROM NOW, PRIORITIES MAY CHANGE. 
          AND SO THEN WHAT WE CONSIDER PRIORITY NOW TODAY MAY BE DIFFERENT THAN TWO YEARS. 
          AND SO, ALRIGHT. 
          I THINK THAT'S A GOOD PLAN IS EVERY YEAR WE WOULD HAVE LIKE A FOLLOW UP SO THAT WE CAN ADJUST AS NECESSARY. 
          YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          AND I WILL JUST, I WILL, UM, SAY THAT ANYTHING THAT IS ON THE SHORT TERM PLAN, I THINK, I KNOW IT SAYS, UM, ONE TO THREE YEARS, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE REALISTIC AND IT NEEDS TO BE AGGRESSIVE AND IT SHOULDN'T BE THERE UNLESS WE'RE GONNA GET IT DONE. 
          SO IF WE HAVE IT THERE FOR STAFF, UM, WE EXPECT FOR US TO REALLY FOLLOW THAT, BE MARRIED TO IT. 
          AND THOSE ARE THE, THOSE ARE THE GOALS THAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH. 
          AND I THINK THAT THE ONE YEAR END CHECKUPS WILL DECIDE WHETHER THEY REMAIN ON THE SHORT TERM OR, OR NOT, JUST SO THAT WAY WE HAVE, UM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT IT'S TO, TO MOVE FORWARD QUICKLY. 
          YOU'RE ON BOARD WITH THE ONE TO TWO YEAR TIME FOR SHORT TERM. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          YEAH. 
          AGAIN, BACK TO MARY'S POINT, IF IT'S TAKING US A LITTLE LONGER THAN WE ADJUST, UH, WE'LL CONTINUE CALIBRATING AS WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          OKAY. 
          EVERYBODY HEARD HIM? OKAY. 
          WE'RE GOOD. 
          , BUT ALEXIS, JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE REALLY WANT MIXED USE BY THE, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE THREE YEARS, WE WANNA SEE HOW BEAUTIFUL IT LOOKS DOWNTOWN. 
          AND THAT'LL MEAN WE NEED TO HAVE, UM, COMMUNICATION. 
          SO THAT WAY WE CAN SUPPORT YOU ALONG THE WAY. 
          AGREED. 
          I THINK ALSO A TOP PRIORITY, NOT A MIDTERM, IS THE DEES PARK REDESIGN. 
          I THINK THAT'S A PARK THAT SHOULD STAY WITH THE PARKS AND NOT JUST DOWNTOWN. 
          I UNDERSTAND IT'S IN DOWNTOWN, BUT THERE SHOULD BE ALSO EMPHASIS ON THE OTHER PARKS. 
          NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, GUTIERREZ. 
          I UNDERSTAND IT'S IMPORTANT AND I KNOW THAT LONG TERM GOAL IS TO GET THAT AREA, BUT I THINK THAT SHOULD NOT BE IN DOWNTOWN. 
          THAT'S THE PARK. 
          SO IT SHOULD BE IN THE PARKS. 
          SO THEN YOU ALSO WANT TO TAKE OUT, UH, THE GREEN CORRIDOR. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S, WELL, THE GREEN CORRIDOR, WHICH IS THAT ONE THAT'S ON THE LONG TERM MIDTERM. 
          THAT'S THE MIDTERM, SORRY. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          YOU'RE CORRECT. 
          AND THEN YOU WANNA TAKE OUT THE CENTENNIAL PARK EX EXPANSION. 
          YES. 
          ALL THAT. 
          ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE PARK SHOULD BE WITH THE PARK PLAN. 
          I UNDERSTAND IT'S THE DOWNTOWN, BUT WHEN, WHEN I THINK DOWNTOWN, I'M THINKING LIKE WHAT YOU'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, LIKE, LIKE I WAS LOOKING AT SOME OF 'EM, THE ALLEY IMPROVEMENTS, UH, THE CULTURAL PROGRAMMING, ALL THAT STUFF. 
          THAT'S COOL. 
          BUT THEN WHEN YOU START GOING TO PARKS, THEN WE NEED TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE BALANCED. 
          BALANCED, JUST SO YOU KNOW, JUST, YOU KNOW, GUT PARK, CENTENNIAL PARK DESIGN AND LOZANO ARE ALL IN THE DOWNTOWN, UH, MASTER PLAN. 
          SO YOU'LL HAVE TO GO BACK TO THOSE PLANS IN ORDER FOR YOU ALL TO SEE WHAT THEIR VISION IS FOR GUTIERREZ PARK OR CENTENNIAL PARK AS WELL. 
          SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO BACK AND FORTH ON THOSE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THERE'S DIFFERENT BUDGET, UH, TO YOUR POINT, THERE'S DIFFERENT, UH, BUCKETS OF MONEY FOR THOSE PARKS AS WELL, GIVEN THAT IF WE WERE TO CREATE A TURS, THE TURS MONEY COULD GO RIGHT INTO THOSE PARKS RATHER THAN, THAT MONEY CANNOT BE USED TO FOR VICTOR PARK OR ROYAL THE ROYAL PARK OR ANY OTHER VEST PARK. 
          HAVE YOU USED FOR ANYTHING ELSE? I, AND I THINK WITH THE WHOLE CONCEPT BEHIND THE GUTIERREZ PARK WAS TO MAKE IT MORE ART RELATED. 
          UM, AND KIND OF ALSO LIKE A, A RE YOU KNOW, A LITTLE OUTSIDE EATERY AND STUFF BECAUSE DON IS RIGHT NEXT TO IT AND HE OWNS THAT PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, TO KIND OF GET WITH HIM TO KIND OF EXPLORE THOSE OPTIONS. 
          ALLEY ACTIVATION IS ANOTHER ONE TO PUT A, A MURAL AND OUNCE AND DINING, UM, YOU KNOW, LITTLE, UH, UH, PICNIC TABLES AND STUFF OUTSIDE THE ALLEY. 
          MAKE THE ALLEY INTO LOOK HOW IT LOOKS. 
          BRICK PAVING, YOU KNOW. 
          SO, UM, AND LIGHTING IN THE ALLEYWAY AS WELL. 
          SO THOSE ARE ALL CONCEPTS THAT THEY KIND OF RELATED TO, TO THE AREA AS LA CITA, 
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YOU KNOW, AND HOW IT'S KNOWN FOR THE ART DISTRICT AREA. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I THINK LIKE A HAPPY MEDIUM HERE, UM, IS FOR US, WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY, UM, AND TIME ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          AND THEN THE, THE, UH, I GUESS THE COLLATERAL PLANS THAT WE SHOULD REALLY KEEP THOSE FOCUSED ON THE PLANS WHERE THEY CAME FROM, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE WHOLE PURPOSE. 
          SO WHILE WE ARE, THOSE ARE PARKS, THEY'RE PARKS IN THE DOWNTOWN PLAN, SO THEY SHOULD BE WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN GOALS MOVING FORWARD. 
          BUT IN TERMS OF STAFF AND, AND, UM, PROJECTS BEING PRIORITIZED IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, THEN I THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE AS PARKS AND PRIORITIZE PROJECTS BASED ON PARKS. 
          UM, I GUESS OUR TIMELINE FOR PARKS. 
          SO I THINK THE PLANNING AND, AND THE, THE, THE, THE GOALS SHOULD STAY IN THE DOWNTOWN PLAN. 
          'CAUSE THAT WAS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE DOWNTOWN PLAN. 
          BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UM, I WAS TALKING TO ANNA ABOUT PARKS AND, AND HOW WE'VE BEEN, THERE'S BEEN A BIG FOCUS ON PARKS LATELY, BUT I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO GET BACK TO, UM, ENSURING THAT THE PARKS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE ARE UP TO PAR MM-HMM . 
          BEFORE WE START MOVING ON TO CREATING ADDITIONAL GREEN SPACES FOR OUR STAFF TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN. 
          'CAUSE I WOULD HATE FOR THEM TO DETERIORATE BECAUSE WE'RE STILL NOT EVEN WHERE WE WANNA BE WITH THE ORIG, THE, UM, THE PARKS THAT WE HAVE, THE EXISTING PARKS. 
          SO I THINK THAT ACCOMPLISHES BOTH GOALS TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THE PLANNING THE WAY THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY, UH, THE, THE, THE GOAL BEHIND IT, UM, WHEN WE, BECAUSE THE, THE GLOBE PAID FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT WE WERE INTENTIONAL WITH THE DOWNTOWN AND THE PARK. 
          SO WE DO NEED TO DO THOSE, BUT WE NEED TO STILL BE AWARE OF, UM, MAKING SURE IT'S EQUITABLE ACROSS THE CITY FOR ALL PARKS. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          'CAUSE THAT, THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. 
          I MEANT LIKE PRIORITIZE, LIKE I AGREE IT'S, IT'S PART OF THE DOWNTOWN PLAN, ALL THAT. 
          BUT LIKE, KINDA LIKE WHAT SHE SAID IS THAT IT, IT, THE PRIORITY SHOULDN'T JUST BE BUMPED UP JUST BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE, AN EXTRA SEPARATE PLAN. 
          I AGREE WITH THAT. 
          'CAUSE TO HER POINT, I WAS LOOKING OVER IT LAST NIGHT 'CAUSE I COULDN'T SLEEP, SO I WAS LIKE AT FOUR IN THE MORNING. 
          THAT'S WHY I EVEN SENT ANNA A, I MEAN, RUTH AN EMAIL LIKE AT FOUR IN THE MORNING, UM, BECAUSE I WAS UP LAST NIGHT AND I WAS READING THROUGH IT. 
          AND THEN YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          LIKE I WAS LOOKING AT THE PARKS PLANT AND YOU'RE RIGHT, IT DOES EMPHASIZE MAINTAINING THE PARKS AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF. 
          MM-HMM . 
          EXCEPT FOR A LITTLE BIT OF PUSH A LITTLE BIT MORE TOWARD THE WEST SIDE WHERE WE DO NEED POCKET PARKS BECAUSE WE SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY AREA THAT'S WITHIN, YOU KNOW, LIKE 10 MILES FROM ANY, UM, PAR UH, PARK, UH, PARK SPACE. 
          I AGREE. 
          THE WAY, THE WAY I IN MY MIND ENVISIONED IT IS THAT THE, WE WOULD BE GOING AFTER THOSE BIG PARK GRANTS FOR THE PARKS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          RIGHT? AND WE WOULDN'T BE GOING AFTER THOSE BIG PARK GRANTS FOR EZ LOZANO OR CENTENNIAL. 
          WE WOULD GO AFTER LIKE DOWNTOWN GRANTS FOR THOSE SPECIFIC PARKS. 
          YEAH. 
          LIKE ANYTHING. 
          'CAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE DOING A LOT TO BE ABLE TO GET THE DOWNTOWN QUALIFIED FOR ALL THESE TYPE OF GRANTS FOR YOUR HISTORICAL PRESERVATION, ALL THAT OTHER STUFF. 
          SO IF YOU CAN GET SOME OF THAT MONEY, GO FOR IT. 
          BUT I THINK AGREED, ALL THE OTHER MONEY SHOULD BE, BECAUSE I KNOW LIKE HE NEEDS PARKS. 
          I KNOW DELEY NEEDS PARKS. 
          I KNOW MIKE WELL, HE NEEDS PARKS TOO. 
          SO WE ALL NEED PARKS. 
          SO I THINK THE PRIORITY FROM OUR BUDGET, BUDGET SHOULD BE GOING TO THOSE PARKS THAT PEOPLE ALREADY USE AND WE NEED TO MAINTAIN. 
          'CAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT IT AND IT MENTIONED HOW THE RESTROOMS WERE CRAPPY AND WE NEED TO FIX THOSE AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. 
          PUN INTENDED. 
          YEAH. 
          , I AGREE. 
          I I'M ON BOARD WITH YOU. 
          I AGREE. 
          I THINK THAT WHAT YOU'RE YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT WHAT YOU SAID, UM, I WOULD WANT THE QUALITY VERSUS QUANTITY FIRST. 
          UH, MAINTENANCE. 
          WE HAVE TO HAVE A MAINTENANCE PLAN FOR EACH, FOR EACH, UM, PARK BECAUSE, UM, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, EVEN THOUGH IT MEANT LIKE YOU JUST SAID, RENEE, IF WE DON'T HAVE, UM, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE MUCH, WHAT WE DO HAVE NEEDS TO BE QUALITY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO I AGREE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO MOVING ON TO, UH, THE IS HOLD ON, HOLD ON. 
          BEFORE WE MOVE AWAY FROM THE SUBJECT OF PARKS, I WANT TO, UH, BRING UP AGAIN THE, UM, GOLD STAR MEMORIAL. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE MUST CONSIDER. 
          WE'RE NOT THERE YET THOUGH, COMMISSIONER. 
          WE'RE STILL IN THE DOWNTOWN. 
          BUT WE CAN I, I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT I, THAT'S FOR PARKS, RIGHT? PARKS, LA CITA, CENTENNIAL, YOU NAME IT. 
          IT COULD BE, IT COULD GO ANYWHERE. 
          WE DO YOU WANT IT IN DOWNTOWN, WHEREVER IT'S, ITS BEST. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD BE PERFECT? I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT FOR VETERANS. 
          NO, NO , NO SIDEBAR CONVERSATIONS. 
          SIDE DEALS ARE BEING MADE RIGHT HERE, HERE. 
          I I AGREE WITH YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT JUST SO THAT WAY WE CAN GET EVERYBODY, UM, SQUARED AWAY. 
          WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY THAT GUTIERREZ PARK REDESIGN, UM, YOU WANT THIS ON SHORT TERM. 
          UM, SO WHAT I SEE IS A REDESIGN. 
          I AGREE. 
          IT'S NOT AN EXECUTION UNTIL WHERE THE DESIGN HAS BEEN. 
          UM, SO, SO THE WAY THAT I READ IT IS GUTIERREZ PARK REDESIGN ART PARK CONCEPT LIGHTING, SPLASH PAD PERFORMANCE IN SPACE. 
          SO THIS IS A SHORT TERM 
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GOAL TO REDESIGN IT AND HAVE IT SHOVEL READY TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          AND THEN WHERE WE ARE ALIGNED WITH WHERE WE ARE WITH PARKS ON THE OTHERS, THEN THAT WILL BE PRIORITIZED BASED ON WHERE THERE ARE IN THE LIST OF PARKS. 
          SO IT'S SHORT TERM, THE WAY, THE WAY I SEE IT, SORRY, HERE, SORRY. 
          UH, I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. 
          DESIGN WOULD BE SHORT TERM. 
          NOW YOU, UH, WE DO THE REDESIGN SHORT TERM. 
          YES. 
          AND THEN, UH, MIDTERM WOULD BE BREAKING GROUND. 
          OKAY. 
          I AGREE. 
          AGREE, YES. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO WE'VE GOT THAT. 
          SO THE NUMBER, THE, THIS SHORT TERM AND IS, UH, IS UH, GUTIERREZ PARK REDESIGN. 
          AND THEN THAT IS TO GET THE PLANS IN PLACE. 
          AND THEN A MIDTERM GOAL WOULD BE FOR IT TO BE EXECUTED AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN MOVE IT UP. 
          BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT IS THIS TWO-WAY STRIP CONVERSIONS? I'M JUST JOKING. 
          . 
          I JUST REAL GOT YOU. 
          I'M JUST IN IT. 
          I'M IN ONE. 
          IT'S SATURDAY MORNING . 
          THAT, THAT WASN'T ON MY LIST, BY THE WAY, MAYOR. 
          IT'S FOR OLD GUYS. 
          HEY, DANIEL. 
          OH, IT WAS, I WAS TALKING TO, UM, STR TOE. 
          I'M JOKING. 
          NOBODY CAN SEE JUST US. 
          YEAH, I KNOW. 
          THAT WAS MY MISTAKE. 
          MY, I REMEMBER YOU, YOU THOUGHT ABOUT CLOSING SOME OF THE STREETS DOWNTOWN. 
          OH NO. 
          THAT I, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          LIKE CLOSING SOME OF THE STREETS DOWNTOWN, LIKE SAY AROUND GUTIERREZ PARK AND ALL THAT AND ADDING LIKE LITTLE TABLES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT KIND OF THING. 
          HAVE YOU THOUGHT GIVEN THAT MORE THOUGHT OR THAT'S WHAT I FIGURED WE WOULD DISCUSS DURING THE GADES PARK, UH, CONVERSATION. 
          WHAT I WAS THINKING AT THAT POINT WAS EITHER TO DO COMPLETE SHUTDOWNS OR TO, UH, DO IT WHERE IT'S ONE WAYS, RIGHT? THINK OF IF YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN TO THE LIGHTHOUSE AND PORT ISABEL YES. 
          THEY, THE WAY THEY PUT OUT THOSE BUMPERS, AND I THINK I TALKED TO CHRIS AND OSCAR ABOUT THIS, AND THEN YOU, YOU WOULD HAVE, YOU WOULD ADD MORE PARKING BECAUSE IT IS NOT GONNA BE PARALLEL PARKING. 
          IT'S NOT GONNA BE LIKE STALL PARKING, LIKE WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT HERE WHERE LIKE THE CITY MANAGEMENT PARKS. 
          RIGHT. 
          OR, OR WE CAN DO A SHUTDOWN. 
          BUT I WOULD WANT PUBLIC INPUT AT THAT POINT FOR THAT. 
          THE OTHER THOUGHT I'D HAD AT ONE POINT WAS POTENTIALLY, UH, AND AGAIN, THIS WOULD NEED A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, IS POTENTIALLY MAKING JACKSON COMPLETELY WALKING. 
          RIGHT? UH, TURNING IT INTO COBBLE LIKE, UH, UH, BRICKS. 
          AND THEN POTENTIALLY MAKING IT LIKE, SO THAT IF YOU PUT RESTAURANTS, THEY WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE OUTDOOR CAFE PATIOS, BUT THAT WOULD NEED BUY-IN FROM THE, THE COAL COMMUNITY BEFORE ANYTHING LIKE THAT'S CONSIDERED THE MERCHANTS WOULD NEED TO GET ON BOARD WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          BUT THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS THAT COULD BE HAD IN THE FUTURE. 
          YOU, YOU WOULD START ON COMMERCE? NO, WHAT I WOULD, THE ORIGINAL THOUGHT WAS WHAT STREET IS IT? UH, THREE THIRD OR SOMETHING? THE ONE BETWEEN DONS AND, UH, THE PARK. 
          RIGHT? THAT IS PARK TWO. 
          RIGHT DOWN SIDE ONE. 
          YEAH, I THINK MAYBE A AND THEN THE OTHER ONE B STREET, POTENTIALLY THOSE TWO WOULD FIRST WOULD START FIRST. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO YOU CAN EXPAND THAT PART. 
          THE OTHER ONE I WAS THINKING WE COULD POTENTIALLY SHUT DOWN IS WEST STREET, A PORTION OF WEST STREET WHERE WE HAVE THE PARKING LOT. 
          SO BETWEEN LIKES MARTINI BAR AND THAT LIKE PUBLIC PARKING SPOT, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          A PORTION OF THAT. 
          SO WE CAN ADD MORE PARKING. 
          AND THEN YOU WOULD OBVIOUSLY KEEP VAN BUREN OPEN AND THEN THAT PART WHERE THE OLD, THAT BUILDING IS RIGHT THERE. 
          SO THIS IS WITH ALREADY WEST STREET CLOSE. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND SHUTTING WEST DOWN RIGHT THERE. 
          SO THAT YOU COULD HAVE, WE CAN EXPAND IT FOR THE MARKET DAYS THAT I CALL IT REY'S MARKET DAYS. 
          RIGHT. 
          I LIKE THAT. 
          . 
          SO, SO WE CAN HAVE REY'S MARKET DAYS AND EXPAND IT AND HAVE MORE GREEN SPACE. 
          'CAUSE I JUST FEEL SO BAD EVERY TIME I DRIVE BY AND I SEE THE, THE, THE FARMER'S MARKET HERE, MAN, THOSE PEOPLE MUST BE HOT. 
          'CAUSE I HATE GOING TO THE, THE PDS, UH, UH, Y'ALL'S, UH, BARBECUE COOKOFF. 
          'CAUSE IT'S ON THAT BLACKTOP AND IT'S LIKE HOT ON SATURDAYS, RIGHT? AND SO I FEEL BAD FOR THESE PEOPLE. 
          I WAS LIKE, HOW DO WE GIVE 'EM THAT GREEN SPACE AND CREATE THAT MARKET FEEL? SO THEY THEY WANTED THAT LOCATION. 
          I KNOW. 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT OFF SIDE. 
          BECAUSE I THINK THEY'VE OFFERED THE, THE LOZANO PLAZA BEFORE. 
          THEY JUST DON'T WANT IT. 
          THEY USED TO BE DOWN THERE BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT THEY GET. 
          WELL, I THOUGHT EVENTUALLY WAS TO SEE IF WE COULD, IF THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN US MOVING UP TO BETHE PARK, RIGHT. 
          WHERE YOU STILL HAVE THE HIGH TRAFFIC STILL, RIGHT, OF HARRISON MM-HMM . 
          AND YOU WOULD HAVE A BEAUTIFUL LIKE, FACILITY BUILT TOWARDS THEM TO A CERTAIN EXTENT. 
          WE COULD HAVE THE ARC NIGHTS THERE. 
          WE CAN HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS THERE. 
          JUST DIFFERENT THOUGHTS FLOWING. 
          DID YOU WHAT ALEXIS SAID ABOUT THIS PICTURE? YEAH, EXACTLY. 
          WITH, UH, WEST STREET CLOSED ALREADY. 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          SO ONE OF THE THINGS I DON'T SEE ON THE, THE SHORT TERM PLAN IS, UM, I THINK, AND THIS IS MORE KIND OF, I, I MAY BE ON YOU, UM, ALEXIS, ON HOW YOU WANNA MOVE FORWARD DOING IT. 
          BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS MOVING FORWARD ON THE 
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TYPES OF ENTERTAINMENT AND, AND STORES AND MERCHANTS THAT WERE, THAT WERE, UM, REALLY BROUGHT TO THE FOREFRONT IN THE PLAN. 
          SO THAT WAY WE CAN REACH THAT, UH, REACH THAT GOAL. 
          SO THAT NEED, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANNA LABEL THAT, BUT I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE IF YOU WANT TO CREATE THAT SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE, AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT DOWNTOWN DISTRICT WHERE IT IS INVITING AND EVERYTHING IS WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE. 
          AND WE TALKED ABOUT BARS AND GRILLS AND, UM, TRADER JOE'S, DIFFERENT , I DUNNO ABOUT DOWNTOWN, BUT SURE. 
          SATELLITE AREA. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, BUT, UM, SO HOW DO WE GET THERE? LIKE WHAT'S, WHAT IS THAT, WHAT ARE THOSE STEPS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE TO ENTICE MORE OF THAT TYPE OF, UM, BUSINESS TO, TO OPEN, TO KIND OF CONTINUE TO FOSTER THE BUSINESSES THAT YOU HAVE DOWNTOWN, BUT TO INCREASE WHAT IT WAS THE COMMUNITY WANTED TO SEE? WELL, WE'RE, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN IN TALKS. 
          HAVE THEY ALREADY SIGNED THE, WELL, I CAN'T SAY WHERE, BUT WE HAVE, UH, A NEW TENANT COMING INTO DOWNTOWN IN A BUILDING THAT WE ALL KNOW, UH, THEY'RE LOOKING HARD AT IT, AND THEN THEY WANNA PUT IN RETAIL THERE. 
          AND SO IT'S HOW DO WE PUSH FOOT TRAFFIC TO THAT FACILITY, THAT BUILDING? AND THAT'S WHY PROMOTING ON THE WEST SIDE, THE IMPROVEMENTS HERE AT WEST, UH, UH, ON WEST STREET, UH, TIS PARK, THOSE ARE GONNA BE BIG BECAUSE THAT WILL HELP THAT AREA GROW AS WELL. 
          AND WE'VE ALSO BEEN IN TALKS WITH ANOTHER DEVELOPER ON ANOTHER BUILDING THAT'S SLIPPED BY THAT ALSO BE MASSIVE, UH, RESIDENTIAL. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT AGAIN, SO THE, I THINK THAT'S GREAT. 
          BUT WHAT IS OUR STRATEGIC PLAN TO ENTICE PEOPLE TO WANT TO OPEN IN DOWNTOWN? ARE WE GONNA HAVE A, SOME KIND OF, UM, OUTREACH TO OWNERS OF BUILDINGS TO SAY, THESE ARE THE KINDS OF BUSINESSES THAT WE WOULD LIKE HERE IN DOWNTOWN AND WE WANNA INCENTIVIZE? OR ARE WE TALKING TO ACTUAL, UM, DEVELOPERS TO CREATE NEW SPACES? LIKE WHAT'S THE PLAN BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT IN THE SHORT TERM, WITHIN THE NEXT THREE YEARS, TO NOT ONLY TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, FIRE LOOK AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS, IS, UM, REASONABLE IN TERMS OF COST, RIGHT? WHEN WE PUT IN THE INCENTIVES TO, TO CHANGE AND TO CREATE AND, AND, UM, INCENTIVIZE FOR, FOR MIXED USE. 
          BUT IF, IF I'M GONNA LIVE DOWNTOWN, I WANNA BE ABLE TO WALK AND HAVE BRUNCH. 
          I WANNA, I WANNA WALK, BE ABLE TO GO TO MAYBE A, A BOOKSTORE. 
          I WANNA BE ABLE TO WALK AND, UM, DO A LITTLE BIT OF SHOPPING. 
          MM-HMM . 
          RIGHT? UH, OR MAYBE IT'S ALSO LIKE A PANTRY, RIGHT? MAYBE YOU NEED, UM, SOME, A SMALL GROCERY, RIGHT? LIKE THOSE WALMART PANTRIES OR WHATEVER MM-HMM . 
          HOW DO WE DO THAT? BECAUSE THE DOWNTOWN AREA, WE DO HAVE PEOPLE THAT LIVE DOWNTOWN MM-HMM . 
          BUT WHERE DO THEY GO? MM-HMM . 
          LIKE THEY NEED THAT EXPERIENCE ALREADY. 
          SO WHERE, HOW ARE WE GONNA GET THERE? WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR THAT? THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DEVELOP. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WE CAN WORK ON THAT NOW. 
          BIG PART OF THAT, THAT'S A SHORT TERM. 
          YES. 
          I THINK IT'S SO DIFFERENT TOO. 
          AND WE TALK TO THESE DEVELOPERS, LIKE THESE PROPERTIES ARE ALREADY FOR SALE AND MM-HMM . 
          YOU KNOW, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PROPERTIES THAT THEY ALREADY OWN, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM . 
          SO IT'S JUST HAVING THAT DISCUSSION WITH, YOU KNOW, NEW AND EXISTING PROPERTY OWNERS BECAUSE THE EXISTING PROPERTY OWNERS, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN VISION, RIGHT? BUT THEY DON'T SEE WHAT OUR VISION IS. 
          AND I CAN TELL 'EM ALL I WANT, BUT THEY CAN CHOOSE WHOEVER THEY WANNA BRING INTO THEIR BI TO THEIR PROPERTIES. 
          I DO SEE IN OTHER DOWNTOWNS, THEY KIND OF, UM, SELECT DIFFERENT AREAS AND MAKE THEM INTO DISTRICTS. 
          SO THAT WAY IT KIND OF PROMOTES THE PROPERTY OWNERS. 
          LIKE IF THIS ADDRESS IS IN THE ARTS DISTRICT, YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO HAVE THOSE ART BUSINESSES COME IN THERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          IF THIS IS IN THE ENTERTAINMENT WISE BAR AND GRILLS AND, YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, POOL TABLE HALLS OR WHATEVER IT IS, THAT IS THE TYPE OF BUSINESSES YOU'RE GONNA TRY TO REACH THERE. 
          AND ALSO WHEN PEOPLE TAR START TO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, AS BUSINESSES COMING INTO DOWNTOWN, THEY'RE GONNA START TO KNOW, OKAY, MY BUSINESS DOESN'T FIT THERE. 
          YOU KNOW, AND I, I, WE NEED TO START LOOKING FOR BAR AND GRILLS TO GO IN THAT ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT. 
          THIS IS THE RETAIL DISTRICT, THIS IS THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, THIS IS THE ART DISTRICT. 
          SO MAYBE CATEGORIZING THEM INTO THOSE TYPES OF DISTRICTS MIGHT WORK. 
          UM, AND THAT WAY THEY KNOW, YOU KNOW, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNERS KNOW THIS IS THE TYPE OF BUSINESSES THAT THE CITY WANTS TO SEE, YOU KNOW, COME INTO THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT. 
          SO WE CAN WORK ON THAT. 
          AND I THINK JANE WOULD BE THE PERFECT PERSON, JANE, WITH THE EDC TO HELP US KIND OF, UH, FLESH THAT OUT. 
          AND THAT CAN BE PART OF A, A SUBSET OF, UH, INCREASED DOWNTOWN HOUSING, NUMBER ONE. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S, IT'S IT'S HOUSING, BUT I DO I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, ALEXIS. 
          THEY DO THAT AT THE ISLAND KIND OF ALREADY. 
          YOU KNOW HOW THEY HAVE THAT LITTLE ARTS DISTRICT WHERE THEY HAVE ALL THE DIFFERENT, UM, ART SHOPS AND 
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THEN THERE'S A COFFEE SHOP THERE ACROSS THE STREET, I THINK IS SOME KIND OF LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, UH, BRUNCH, UH, SPACES AIR ALSO. 
          BUT I DO THINK THAT THAT IS PRIORITY BECAUSE IF YOU START TO MAKE ALL THESE CHANGES AROUND THE CURRENT DOWNTOWN THAT WE HAVE, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A MORE BEAUTIFIED DOWNTOWN THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. 
          IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE. 
          SO IF THE CITY HAS THE ABILITY TO DO, OR NOT THE ABILITY, BUT A RESPONSIBILITY TO WHAT THE RESIDENTS, WHEN THEY, WHEN WE GOT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND WE KNOW WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS, I THINK WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO DELIVER ON THAT. 
          AND IT'S NOT, THE CITY WANTS THIS IN DOWNTOWN. 
          IT'S THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT. 
          AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT, WE ARE GOING TO LIMIT, AND THIS IS WHERE CERTAIN BUSINESSES WILL GO. 
          AND TO YOUR POINT, I THINK YOU'RE, YOU MAKE AN EXCELLENT POINT BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING THIS IS WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS. 
          RIGHT? THEREFORE, RETAIL, YOU ALREADY HA YOU ALREADY KNOW WHAT YOUR, WHAT YOUR CUSTOMERS ARE GONNA BE INTERESTED IN. 
          MM-HMM . 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO IT KIND OF MAKES IT EASIER TO MAKE THAT SELL ACCURATE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO I THINK THE CHARGE HERE IS, UM, LET'S, LET'S EMPOWER LEXUS TO GET THAT DONE AND WORKING TOGETHER WITH EDC AND THEN HAVING, THAT'S WHY I THINK YOU STILL NEED A SMALLER COMMITTEE TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS MOVE FORWARD. 
          UM, BUT ENSURING THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN DEVELOP AND THEN THIS COMMISSION CAN ADOPT THAT. 
          THIS IS WHAT WE WANT MOVING FORWARD. 
          SO WHAT, SO I DON'T, I THINK IT NEEDS A DIFFERENT NAME BECAUSE INCREASED DOWNTOWN HOUSING IS GONNA BE SOME TIME. 
          UM, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING RELATIVELY SHORT TO ADOPT A PLAN. 
          ROBERT. 
          UH, HOW ABOUT WE DO ROBERT ROLANDO? ROLANDO, I APOLOGIZE. 
          I'M SUPER SORRY. 
          THAT'S WHAT YOU GET . 
          THAT'S WHAT I GET. 
          WRITING IT DOWN ROLANDO. 
          AND I WAS LIKE, THAT'S NOT RIGHT. 
          THAT'S NOT RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE SECOND TIME WITH SOMEONE WITH AN R THAT I'VE GOTTEN WRONG IN THE PAST TWO DAYS. 
          I APOLOGIZE. 
          ROLANDO, THEN WHY DON'T WE, WHAT ABOUT THIS MAYOR, UH, COMMERCIAL REDEVELOPMENT PLAN. 
          PLAN? OKAY. 
          BUT IT HAS TO BE A SUBSET BECAUSE THAT'S NOT A PRIORITY. 
          IT ISN'T ABSOLUTE PRIORITY, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE DONE RATHER QUICKLY. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S NOT IN, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY. 
          IT'S NOT IN THE PLAN, BUT IT IS IN THE PLAN. 
          IT'S JUST NOT NOT LABELED. 
          RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE NEED THAT FIGURE OUT. 
          YEAH. 
          WHAT WE'RE GONNA CALL IT. 
          WE'LL JUST CALL IT NUMBER FOUR, REPLACE THIS ONE. 
          NO, NO, NO. 
          WE'RE GONNA DO THAT ONE THERE. 
          NO. 
          PUT NUMBER FOUR DOWNTOWN COMMERCIAL REDEVELOPMENT. 
          DOES THAT? I AGREE. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, ALEXIS KNOWS. 
          I JUST, I THINK FOR PURPOSES OF, UM, JUST ADDING IT ON THERE, MAYBE YOU CAN INCLUDE THAT WITH DEDICATED DOWNTOWN FUNDING. 
          UM, I DUNNO, I'M NOT EVEN SURE HOW WE'RE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH THAT ONE. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S THE WANTED CLARIFICATION. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. 
          DEDICATED DOWNTOWN. 
          LIKE WE'RE GOING TO SPECIFICALLY PUT MONEY ASIDE JUST SPECIFICALLY FOR DOWNTOWN BECAUSE WE ALREADY DO THAT. 
          WE, WE DO. 
          THE ONLY THING THAT'S GONE AWAY ARE THE, UH, THE GRANTS FOR THE FACADES. 
          THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT. 
          SORRY. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT WAS GOOD. 
          YOU GAVE ME A MIC. 
          . 
          YOU CAN LOWER IT A LITTLE BIT. 
          YEAH, THAT SCARED ME TOO. 
          I WAS LIKE, DON'T SCARE GABE. 
          DON'T SCARE HIM. 
          NO, I DON'T FEEL LIKE BEING A NURSE. 
          OKAY. 
          , WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE HERE. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S EITHER ME OR MIKE. 
          MIKE OR I, MIKE TAKEOVER. 
          I WAS A NURSE. 
          YEAH. 
          ACTUALLY GET ME SOME CLARIFICATION AS FAR AS THAT DEDICATED DOWNTOWN FUNDING. 
          I KNOW, UH, THIS FISCAL YEAR YOU INCREASED MY PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS BUDGET TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AND WITH THAT WE WERE ABLE TO HELP SUPPORT THE STAGE AT LOZANO PLAZA PLUS MORE. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE'RE DOING NEW LIGHTING, UM, DOWNTOWN AS WELL. 
          SO, UM, BUT SO IN MY MIND IT WAS TO KEEP THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND THAT WE'VE GIVEN THIS YEAR. 
          YEAH. 
          MOVE IT THERE TO, TO DO PROJECTS LIKE THAT AND THEN LOOK AT THESE, UH, SPECIAL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS THAT WOULD THEN IT'S MUCH LIKE A, UM, LIKE WHAT WE HAD A PAID RIGHT. 
          BUT THERE'S LIKE IMPROVEMENT OF THE TAXES AND THEN THAT TAX MONEY WOULD GO INTO THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY NEED. 
          SO EVERY, EVERY TIME THE ASSESSMENT GOES UP FROM THE BASE ASSESSMENT THAT WE HAVE NOW THAT MONEY WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY RESERVED FOR A DOWNTOWN AREA. 
          ROBERT, THAT EXTRA A HUNDRED THOUSAND CAME FROM THE HOT FUNDS. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT THE MIC IS BECAUSE WE'RE LIVE YES. 
          THE MAJORITY OF IT DID. 
          UH, WELL ACTUALLY ALL OF IT. 
          'CAUSE THEY GET FUNDED BY THE, BY THE HOT, HOT FUND TAX. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST, JUST MAKING SURE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'M NOT SURE I FOLLOW WHAT THE DEDICATION, WHAT YOU JUST SAID. 
          A TERMS IS A TAX INCREMENT AND REINVESTMENT ZONE. 
          SO, SO FOR DOWNTIME, SHOULD WE WRITE TO, SHOULD WE SAY THAT INSTEAD OF A DEDICATED FUNDING? THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS. 
          UTS ON PAGE 62 OF THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN. 
          CORRECT. 
          UNDER THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIES. 
          THE LAST ONE, THE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE, IT SAYS THAT THE CITY SHOULD CONSIDER ESTABLISHING A DOWNTOWN TURS TO CAPTURE THE INCREMENTAL INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUES WITHIN THE DISTRICT 
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AND REINVEST THOSE FUNDS INTO DOWNTOWN IMPROVEMENTS. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND THE REVENUES COULD SUPPORT INFRASTRUCTURE, PUBLIC SPACES, UH, SPACES, HOUSING INCENTIVES AND OTHER CATALY PROJECTS AND COORDINATION WITH CAMERON COUNTY IS RECOMMENDED YES. 
          FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING SUPPORT. 
          SO I, I'M, I'M AWARE AND I KNOW THAT THAT IS, BUT WHEN WE SAID INCREASE DOWNTOWN FUNDING THAT'S NOT, OR DEDICATED DOWNTOWN FUNDING, THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE ALREADY ALLOCATE TO JUST INCREASE. 
          SO I THINK THAT IF THE GOAL IS TO CREATE A TOURS, WE NEED TO SAY TO CREATE A TOURS, I I I THINK THOSE ARE TWO SEPARATE GOALS. 
          MAYOR. 
          YES SIR. 
          ARE WE GONNA KEEP BOTH OR WHAT? SO OUR, OUR OUR, WHY WOULD WE KEEP BOTH IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A TS BECAUSE A HUNDRED THOUSAND IS FOR LIKE STAFFING. 
          THAT'S FOR LIKE EVENTS. 
          THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S FORTS. 
          THAT'S FOR, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. 
          PUBLIC CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT. 
          I DON'T THINK IT NECESSARILY NEEDS TO BE THERE. 
          'CAUSE IT'S ALREADY PART OF OUR PLAN. 
          SO ARE WE, SO, OKAY, PERFECT. 
          THAT'S ONLY PART OF THE PLAN. 
          WE, YOU'VE ALWAYS HISTORICALLY GIVEN MONEY TO THE DOWNTOWN SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, WE, BUT THEY ONLY GAVE LIKE $40,000, BUT YOU UPPED IT TO A THOUSAND HUNDRED. 
          WE UPPED IT TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE CONTINUE THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND AND THEN WE BUILD IN A TOUR SO THAT WE CAN DO MASSIVE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. 
          AND, AND I THINK THE PRIORITY IS JUST MEANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SUSTAIN THAT LEVEL OF FUNDING. 
          THAT'S THAT'S OKAY. 
          WHAT I'M THINKING, WELL, AT THE LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD OUR JOINT, UM, MEETING WITH THE TS, THEY MADE IT VERY CLEAR WITH THE COUNTY VERY CLEAR THAT THEY'RE NOT WANTING TO PARTICIPATE INTS MORE THAN 50%. 
          AND SO THAT'S 50% MORE THAN WE HAVE NOW THAT IF THEY, IF THEY PARTICIPATE AT ALL. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO I THINK WE NEED TO, UM, ONE THING TO CONSIDER AND KEEP IN MIND IS THAT WHAT GIVES MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S WHAT GIVES A TOUR YOUR VALUE IS WHEN YOU HAVE VACANT PROPERTY AND IT GETS DEVELOPED AND THEN THAT DEVELOPMENT CREATES A LOT OF REVENUE IN TAX REVENUE. 
          BUT DOWNTOWN REALLY HAS NO VACANT PROPERTY. 
          SO THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GONNA RAISE REVENUE IS BY THE APPRAISALS GOING UP. 
          CORRECT. 
          WHICH IS WHY INCREASED DOWNTOWN HOUSING. 
          THAT'S WHY THE REDESIGN OF, UH, GI THAT IS PARK, UH, THAT'S WHY THOSE THINGS ARE SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE THOSE WILL RAISE THE VALUES AND THAT'S THE MONEY THAT WE USE TO REINVEST. 
          AND JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT ALSO OVER THE YEARS, WE'VE DROPPED OUR TAX RATE EVERY YEAR. 
          SO IF IT CONTINUES TO GO DOWN, THEN THE OFFSET MAY NOT BE AS MUCH MM-HMM . 
          SO, AND JUST TO KEEP IN MIND THAT, THAT TURS WON'T BE, THAT THE TURS WON'T NECESSARILY BE SHORT TERM BECAUSE IT'S THE INCREMENTAL INCREASE. 
          SO YOU HAVE A BASE TAX THAT THAT IS STILL GONNA GO TO THE CITY AND THEN IT MAY TAKE YEARS FOR THAT INCREMENTAL INCREASE TO GROW TO BRING TAX THERE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT'S A GOOD POINT BECAUSE WHICH IS WHY I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR SHORT TERM OR TRULY SHORT TERM, LIKE WHAT IS IT THAT WE ARE ACCOMPLISHING. 
          CORRECT. 
          BUT YOU GOTTA START SHORT TERM BY CREATING THE TOURS. 
          SO CREATING THE TS IS A SHORT TERM PROJECT IN MY MIND. 
          OKAY. 
          THE CREATION OF THE TOURS. 
          BUT I, TO ROBERT'S POINT, I DON'T SEE US GETTING SUBSEQUENT FUNDING OR SUBSTANTIAL FUNDING FOR THAT UNTIL A LOT LATER. 
          OKAY. 
          I AGREE. 
          I AGREE WITH THAT. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF THE COMMISSION, BUT I DO THINK THAT DOWNTOWN NEEDS TO HAVE AT LEAST A HUNDRED THOUSAND BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY SEEN THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE WITH THE DEDICATED FUNDING. 
          BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S A, UM, SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION WANTS TO BE MARRIED TO MOVING FORWARD. 
          I THINK PROBABLY ON AN ANNUAL BASIS WE CAN CHECK THAT OUT TO SEE THAT, WELL WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO WITH THE FUNDS THIS YEAR? YEAH. 
          BECAUSE, AND THESE ARE THE REASONS WHY WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO FUND IT. 
          'CAUSE THE LAST THING YOU WANT IS TO HAVE MONEY SITTING IN AN ACCOUNT AND NOT BEING UTILIZED. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH TOTAL DO WE GET IN HOT FENCE? LIKE 100% OF THAT? AND CASSANDRA DOESN'T WANNA GIVE ANY MONEY. 
          HOW MUCH? LIKE TOTAL NUMBER? WE GET ABOUT 900,000 A YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          BETWEEN 900 AND A MILLION. 
          AND THAT'S THE SAME FUNDING THAT WE USE FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT FESTIVALS. 
          CORRECT? UH, SOME OF IT, SOME OF IT GOES LIKE TO CVB, SOME OF IT GOES TO DOWNTOWN. 
          SO NORMALLY HOW MANY, HOW MUCH MONEY DID, UM, DOWNTOWN USUALLY GET THE 50,000 FROM THE HOT FUNDS THEY USED TO GET LIKE 40. 
          40? YEAH. 
          AND I THINK WE INCREASED IT TO A HUNDRED. 
          SO LET ME CORRECT, UM, THE, THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS THAT PROVIDED THE INCENTIVES WERE ALL BY PROPERTY OWNERS INVESTING INTO DOWNTOWN. 
          THEY HAD, THAT WAS WITH THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT THAT WE'VE HAD FOR MANY YEARS. 
          THAT HAS COMPLETELY ELIMINATED. 
          AND THAT'S WHEN YOU ALL CAME TO PROVIDE ME WITH THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE WITH THE 40,000 THAT I USED TO GET FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER'S INVESTMENT, I WAS, I HAD TO SPLIT IT BETWEEN THE GRANTS AND THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS. 
          SO BASICALLY I ONLY HAD $20,000 TO DO ANY TYPE OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE YEAR. 
          SO NOW I HAVE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO NOW START THESE BIGGER IMPROVEMENTS TO HELP, YOU KNOW, CAPITALIZE OUR INVESTMENT INTO DOWNTOWN. 
          UM, HOTEL MOTEL FUNDING THAT DOWNTOWN GETS IS ONLY FOR ADVERTISING AND THAT IS AT 32,000 A YEAR THAT I GET FOR HOTEL MOTEL FUNDS, BUT NOW I HAVE AN ADDITIONAL A HUNDRED THOUSAND. 
          SO YOU GET 132,000 A YEAR. 
          132,000. 
          YES. 
          SO IT SOUNDS LIKE DOWNTOWN IS IN A BETTER POSITION NOW THAT THE EDC HAS TAKEN OVER THOSE ASSESSMENTS BECAUSE YOU HAVE MORE MONEY, YOU HAVE MORE THAN DOUBLE OF WHAT YOU HAD BEFORE AND YOU WERE SPLITTING THAT ADDITIONAL FUNDING. 
          SO, SO WHAT, WHAT, SORRY. 
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UM, WHAT, HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU HAVE LEFT FROM THE MONEY THAT WAS ALREADY ALLOCATED TO DOWNTOWN? UM, SO I HAVE ABOUT ANOTHER $60,000 LEFT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I THINK BECAUSE SHE HAS 60,000 LEFT, WE, WE, IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO MAKE, ENSURE THAT MOVING FORWARD, UM, AT THE BUDGET TIME WE JUST SEE WHERE SHE'S AT AND THAT HAS BEEN LIQUIDATED. 
          UM, AND THEN WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THOSE PROJECTS THAT YOU INTEND ON, ON, UM, IMPLEMENTING OR STARTING OR, UM, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, AND THEN DECIDE. 
          'CAUSE THAT MIGHT FLUCTUATE DEPENDING ON WHAT THE NEEDS ARE, ESPECIALLY AS DOWNTOWN CONTINUES TO GROW, I WOULD HOPE THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD WANT TO CONTINUE TO FURTHER SUPPORT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE ALSO THE GOAL WOULD BE A SALES TAX DRIVER DOWNTOWN. 
          RIGHT? SO THE MORE MONEY YOU PUT IN, THE MORE THAT THEY CAN DO. 
          UM, AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO BEAUTIFY, BUT BEFORE YOU COMMIT MONEY, I WANNA SEE A PLAN OF ACTION ON, ON WHAT IT IS THAT YOU WANTED, WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE GONNA DO, AND HOW AGGRESSIVE YOU'RE GONNA BE TO RE-IMAGINE THAT SPACE. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          OKAY. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION NOW. 
          SO YOU GET, UM, YOU, I'M JUST TRYING TO COMPREHEND. 
          SO YOU GET A HUNDRED THOUSAND FROM THE HOT FUNDS AND THEN HOW MUCH DO YOU GET FROM THE EDC? YOU HAD 132,000, RIGHT? THAT'S TOTAL FROM THE HOT FUNDS. 
          THE EDC GIVES US ANOTHER ADDITIONAL A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR REVITALIZE HARLINGEN GRANTS. 
          OKAY. 
          I, I COMMISSIONER, I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR TO GET THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND. 
          YEAH, I REMEMBER THAT. 
          YEAH, I REMEMBER THAT. 
          SO REVITALIZE HARLINGEN IS MY BABY, SO I'M VERY, VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT. 
          BUT WHAT THIS, THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT EDC IS STORE SPECIFICALLY GOING TO JUST GIVE THAT MONEY TO THE BUSINESS OWNER. 
          SO THAT'S NOT REALLY GOING TO DOWNTOWN IMPROVEMENTS, UM, PER SE BECAUSE SHE'S NOT GONNA HAVE CONTROL OF WHAT THAT MONEY IS. 
          SAY THEY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, INCREASE LANDSCAPING OR WORK ON LOZANO PARK OR THOSE THINGS, THAT MONEY IS GONNA GO SPECIFICALLY TO THEIR STOREFRONTS AND THEN A SMALL PERCENTAGE IN THE INSIDE. 
          SO THAT'S NOT REALLY TECHNICALLY ALEXIS'S MONEY. 
          IT'S JUST MONEY ALLOCATED TO DOWNTOWN OWNERS. 
          YEAH, I KNEW THAT. 
          I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. 
          UM, BUT, BUT WHAT, OKAY, SO MY THING IS FROM THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND, SOME OF THAT IS GOING ALSO TO THE, THE DOWNTOWN AT SUNDOWN, RIGHT? UM, NO, NO, NO. 
          I HAVE ANOTHER SEPARATE BUDGET FOR SPECIFICALLY EVENTS. 
          I GET 60,000 FOR EVENTS AND I HAVE TO SPLIT IT BETWEEN MARKET DAYS, SUNDOWN THE PARADE AND FIESTA DE PINATAS. 
          SO THEN THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IS STRICTLY FOR JUST IMPROVEMENTS, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS. 
          YES. 
          STRICTLY PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO THEN THAT MEANS YOU DON'T GET ANYTHING FROM PUBLIC WORKS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, OR THEY HELP ME, BUT, BUT THAT'S ON THEIR FUNDING. 
          SO YOU DOUBLE DIP , WE HELP EACH OTHER OUT. 
          WE'RE A TEAM GO. 
          I THINK IT'S FINE. 
          I THINK WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW WHERE THE MONEY'S GOING. 
          AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S, IT'S DEDICATED DOWNTOWN FUNDING, BUT DEPENDING ON WHAT'S PRESENTED AT THE BUDGET. 
          I AGREE. 
          BUT I THINK IT SHOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT'S JUST AUTOMATIC EVERY YEAR. 
          KIND OF LIKE YOU SAID. 
          I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO HAVE TO LOOK AT EVERY YEAR BECAUSE YEAH. 
          'CAUSE SO MAYBE IT NEEDS TO SAY CONTINGENT UPON. 
          CONTINGENT UPON, OKAY. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          YEAH. 
          EXCUSE ME, ROBERT. 
          UM, 900,000 IS WHAT IS GENERATED ON A REGULAR BASIS, MORE OR LESS FROM 900 TO A MILLION FOR THE, FOR THE HOT TANKS. 
          WHAT IS THE BALANCE ON THE HOT TANKS THAT'S THERE FOR, UH, I COULD CHECK REAL QUICK. 
          LEMME CHECK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          JOSH, CAN YOU GET ROLANDO A CHAIR PLEASE? THANK YOU. 
          GOT ONE? YOU SURE? OKAY. 
          STOOL. 
          OH, THIS ONE'S A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE. 
          LIKE THIS ONE. 
          YOU SHOULD, AND SOME COFFEE AND SOME WATER AND A TACO PLEASE. 
          , YOU CAN JUST GO LIKE, FROM THIS TO THIS TO EVERY LITTLE THING. 
          I JUST SWITCH. 
          AW, LOOK AT THAT. 
          I WAS JUST KIDDING. 
          BUT THAT IS AWESOME. 
          DONNA'S AMAZING. 
          OKAY, WE'RE AT NUMBER FOUR AND WE NEED TO KIND OF, YEAH, WE NEED TO KIND OF, SO, UM, I THINK WE, UH, WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF CONTINGENT UPON, UM, ALEXIS JUST SHOWING US WHAT IT IS THAT WE NEED TO DO ANY OTHER, UM, SHORT TERM GOALS FOR DOWNTOWN. 
          UH, IN FACT, I WAS GONNA SAY, I THINK I'M GOOD WITH THE REST OF HER PLAN. 
          PRIORITY LIST. 
          OKAY. 
          SO FOR PURPOSES OF THE PUBLIC, THE MIDTERM GOALS, YOU'VE GOT A, UH, ESTABLISH THE TURS, YOU WANTED TO MOVE THAT UP TO ESTABLISH THE TURS IN THE SHORT TERM, CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE CAN HAVE A NUMBER FIVE, ESTABLISH A TURS, AND THEN, UM, FOR MIDTERM THERE IS ANCHOR TENANT RECRUITMENT, 
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WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BUT THIS IS, I GUESS, UH, EXECUTION OF THAT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, DO YOU STILL WANT THAT ON THE MIDTERM? YES. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO MIDTERM IS, IS, DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF THIS OTHER FORM? OKAY. 
          OH NO, HE DOESN'T HAVE A COPY OF, NO. 
          HERE, LEMME GIVE YOU THIS ONE. 
          YEAH. 
          ALEXIS. 
          YES. 
          SORRY. 
          SO WITH THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO DO SOME OF THAT GREEN CORRIDOR EXPANSION, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          SO YEAH, SO THE NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO, SO THE, THE GUTIERREZ PARK REDESIGN, I'M SORRY, THE GUTIERREZ PARK, UM, WOULD BE THE NUMBER ONE RIGHT ON THE MIDTERM WHERE YOU'RE ALREADY GOING AHEAD AND BREAK GROUND OR CORRECT. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO GET GUT'S PLAN. 
          AND THEN THE TWO-WAY STREET CONVERSION IS THAT SOMETHING TWO, TWO-WAY STREET CONVERSION. 
          MIRROR . 
          UM, IS THIS, YOU WANNA DO 2, 2, 2 WAYS TO CHOOSE DOUBLE. 
          I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT WAS. 
          WALK ME THROUGH. 
          WHAT, WHAT IS THAT? WELL, IT, IT'S ON, ON THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN. 
          I PUT IT THERE JUST AS A MIDTERM. 
          JUST BECAUSE IF, JUST TO SEE WHAT YOU ALL'S IDEAS WERE CONVERTING THE ONE WAY TO TWO WAY STREET TO TWO WAY. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT, THAT'S THE ONLY THING. 
          I THINK THAT'S A HUGE NIGHTMARE. 
          I KNOW. 
          'CAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE PEOPLE GOING DOWN, WHERE'S PD? RIGHT? CHIEF? WHERE'S CHIEF? RIGHT. 
          NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT. 
          YEAH. 
          MM-HMM. 
          NOT IN THIS CITY AND NOT IN THAT AREA. 
          YEP. 
          SO WE'LL JUST STRIKE THAT. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYWAY, NOT IN THE, NOT IN THE NEAR FUTURE ANYWAY. 
          . 
          YEAH, IT WOULD INCREASE MOBILITY. 
          IT WOULD, BUT IT ALSO CREEP PEDESTRIAN ACCIDENTS. 
          AND PEOPLE GO LIKE, BECAUSE I HAVE MY OFFICE ON, ON, ON, UM, HARRISON. 
          HARRISON ON HARRISON. 
          AND I KIND OF GO THE BACK ROAD TO ALL OF YOUR RUNWAYS. 
          THERE'S ALWAYS PEOPLE GOING THE WRONG WAY. 
          AND THAT'S BECAUSE NOBODY'S ON THE STREET. 
          IMAGINE IF IT'S A BUSY STREET. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IT WOULD TAKE A BIG EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN IF YOU WANNA DO IT. 
          UM, I, I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S A PRIORITY. 
          YEAH. 
          START WITH A TRAFFIC STUDY. 
          WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT. 
          UM, OUT OF YOUR BUDGET OUTTA , I'M JUST LOOKING AT WHAT ARE THE REALISTIC GOALS. 
          WE BELIEVE IT, WE PUT OUTTA YOUR BUDGET GIRL. 
          SO THIS IS WHEN YOU BRING CONSULTANTS THAT ARE NOT, THEY'RE LIKE, YEAH, THIS WOULD BE BEAUTIFUL, BUT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND TRULY THE CULTURE AND, AND JUST, YOU KNOW. 
          YEAH. 
          SO GREEN CORRIDOR EXPANSION, THAT IS IMPORTANT. 
          YOU WANNA KEEP THAT MIDTERM? YES. 
          WE GOTTA PLAN IT OUT AND DESIGN IT. 
          SO YOU WANT THAT PLAN ON SHORT TERM, OR YOU WANT WE CAN DO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU GOT THAT. 
          SO PLAN OVER HERE AND THEN, UM, EXECUTION MIDTERM, LOOK AT YOU. 
          ZERO TO TWO YEARS. 
          OKAY. 
          . 
          AND ON THE PLAN, NOT TOO SURE IF YOU ALL SAW THE CENTENNIAL PARK INSPECTION EXPANSION. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT BUILDING RIGHT THERE. 
          UM, LET ME GO BACK TO IT. 
          THAT BUILDING RIGHT THERE, THAT WHITE BUILDING KIND OF LOOKS A LITTLE, UM, HAS SOME FEATURES TO IT THAT THEY, THEY PUT IN THERE THAT THEY RECOMMENDED FOR ADDITIONAL BATHROOMS. SO POTENTIALLY THE CITY WOULD BUY THE LAND AND CONVERT IT INTO A SPACE WHERE FOOD TRUCKS CAN PARK. 
          UM, AND THAT'S THE WHOLE PART OF THE EXPANSION IS FOR THE CITY TO BUY THAT PROPERTY INTO CONVERT THAT LITTLE BUILDING INTO ADDITIONAL, UH, RESTROOM SPACE IN THE WEST SIDE OF WEST VAN BUREN, WEST JACKSON SIDE OF DOWNTOWN. 
          WHO'S THE OWNER? UH, A JUDGE OUT OF CORPUS CHRISTI. 
          A JUDGE OUTTA CORPUS CHRISTI. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, DO WE KNOW WHICH ONE? IT'S IN MY DESKTOP. 
          I DON'T HAVE IT WITH ME. 
          SO, UM, I THINK THAT THOSE ARE LONG-TERM GOALS AND THEY'RE PERFECT WHERE THEY'RE AT, JUST BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO TO BE ABLE, ABLE TO WARRANT THOSE MM-HMM . 
          SO IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, I THINK IF, IF THE COMMISSION IS COMFORTABLE ADOPTING, AND THEN WE CAN READ THOSE OUT FOR THE RECORD. 
          BUT THE LONG-TERM GOALS, UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS WANNA TAKE OUT, UM, AND I'LL OPEN THAT UP FOR THE COMMISSION. 
          EVERYBODY'S GOOD? MM-HMM . 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA LEAVE THE CENTENNIAL PARK EXPANSION IN THE DOWNTOWN PLAN. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THEN FOR YEAH, IT, THE, THE GREEN CORRIDOR TO ARROYO. 
          UM, I THINK THAT THAT IS A LONG TERM, BUT IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT IN MY, IN MY VIEW. 
          AND IT GOES ALONG WITH OUR PLAN AND MAY BE MOVED UP, CORRECT? YEAH. 
          WE'RE GONNA, IN MY MIND, GOING TO, UH, COMMISSIONER BETA'S POINT, 
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IT, IT'S A, UH, TRAIL. 
          AND SO THE TRAILS IN MY MIND ARE LIKE PARK ISSUES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BUT IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE A LONG-TERM GOAL IN MY MIND. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M PRETTY SURE. 
          SO ON THE, ON THE LONG-TERM GOAL, UM, I THINK THAT WE HAVE THE GREEN CORRIDOR TO THE ARROYO. 
          SO YOU, I'M SORRY, IS YOUR ARGUMENT OR YOUR POSITION TO MAKE THAT THE GREEN CORRIDOR TO THE ARROYO A MIDTERM, A A A LONG-TERM GOAL, BUT A ONE THAT MAY MOVE UP TO MIDTERM? SO I THINK IT SHOULD BE UP TOWARDS THE, BECAUSE THE GOAL IS TO CONNECT, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          AND THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND AS WE MAKE THESE IMPROVEMENTS, UM, DIXIE LAND'S GONNA CONNECT AND THEN, UM, I MEAN, WE ALREADY HAVE QUITE A BIT ALREADY THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          UH, THEN IT WOULD ONLY MAKE SENSE IF DOWNTOWN IS, IS NOW, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, UM, SOMEHOW REVITALIZED THAT AREA AND YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVING THERE, THEN THAT NEEDS TO BE A PRIORITY AND MOVED UP. 
          I AGREE. 
          I'VE WALKED FROM MY HOUSE TO DOWNTOWN, SO I MEAN, THAT'S THE GOAL AT THE END OF THE DAY, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY SAFE RIGHT NOW TO, TO, TO WALK EVERYWHERE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AGREED. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'VE GOT THE GREEN. 
          SO FOR LONG TERM, THE GREEN CORRIDOR TO THE ARROYO, THEN CENTENNIAL PARK, EXPANSION ARTS AND NATURE CENTER EXPANSION. 
          HE'S STILL ON, ON NUMBER TWO. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT HE'S GOT IT ON HIS, ON HIS, UM, HELLO, MAYOR. 
          I, UH, I GOT THE ANSWER TO THAT. 
          SO FOR, FOR THE HOTEL, THE HOTEL, HOTEL, UH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE, UH, BUDGETED 1.7 FOR, FOR THIS 2026. 
          IT'S 1.7 IN, IN, IN, UH, HOTEL MOTEL TAX AND ABOUT 80,000 IN INTEREST. 
          SO IT'S ABOUT 1.8 MILLION IN REVENUE TO THE HOTEL MOTEL. 
          AND THEY HAVE 4.7 IN ESTIMATED FUND BALANCE AT THE END OF 2026. 
          FOUR POINT HOW MUCH? 4.7. 
          THAT'S AT THE END. 
          YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT BABY  BY THE END OF 2026. 
          BUT I, I DO, I MEAN, CASSANDRA'S SITTING THERE NICE AND QUIET, BUT I THINK THAT PANIC ON HER FACE BEFORE WE START MOVING FUNDS FROM THE CBB, WE NEED TO SEE WHAT THE PLANS FOR THE CBB ARE AND ALLOCATING FUNDS, UM, IN, IN SUCH A WAY THAT IS GOING TO ALLOW THEM TO ACCOMPLISH THEIR GOALS AS WELL. 
          WE CAN'T DO THAT HERE TODAY. 
          WE CAN'T. 
          SO WE CAN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, BYPASS AND SAY WE'RE GONNA DO THIS OR WE'RE GONNA DO THAT. 
          WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS COMPREHENSIVELY. 
          SO THESE ARE GREAT, UM, IDEAS HERE. 
          WHAT WAS YOUR NUMBER THREE? UM, ARTS AND NATURE CENTER EXPANSION? UH, UH, THE GENTLEMAN HAD A REALLY INTERESTING IDEA IS ESSENTIALLY ALONG OUR WALKING TRAILS IN CENTENNIAL PARK, UH, WE WOULD, UH, LINE IT WITH TREES AND NATIVE WILDLIFE THAT ARE GOOD FOR THE BIRDS, THE MIGRATORY BIRDS, AND THE MIGRATORY BUTTERFLIES AND THINGS OF THAT. 
          SO THAT THEY WOULD HAVE PLACES TO REST HERE, ORANGE. 
          AND THEN THAT WOULD ADD TO OUR, UH, ECOTOURISM. 
          THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          ARE YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE BIRD FESTIVAL? NO. 
          IT WOULD ADD TO THAT IN A WAY. 
          IT WOULD ADD SO THAT WHEN WE HAVE THE RGB BURNING FESTIVAL, WE WOULD HAVE MORE PLACES FOR THEM TO STAY IN HOEN AND LOOK AT THE BIRDS HERE. 
          AND DOWNTOWN CAN BE A, A POTENTIAL FIELD TRIP SPOT. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE, THEN YOU HAVE ALL THESE VISITORS STOP EATING IN DOWNTOWN, SHOPPING IN DOWNTOWN AND ALL THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          'CAUSE BURNING HERE IS YEAR ROUND. 
          SO YOU CAN DO THAT. 
          DO NOT PLANT LIVE OAK TREES. 
          THEY'RE NOT NATIVE. 
          WE'LL RUN THAT LIST BY YOU COMMISSIONER IF YOU'D LIKE, SO YOU CAN TAKE A PEEK AT IT. 
          UH, THE ONLY THING I DON'T SEE HERE, AND THEN I THINK WE CAN WRAP IT UP. 
          UM, UH, DANIEL IS, WASN'T THERE, UH, CONSIDERATION FOR AN INCUBATOR OF SOME SORT DOWNTOWN? CORRECT. 
          WHERE DO YOU WANT THAT? HOW WE, HOW ARE WE MOVING ON THAT? I THINK WE NEED TO PUT IT UP IN THE TOP SO THAT I CAN WORK ON IT. 
          WE'LL MAKE IT A SHORT TERM PLAN THEN FOR, UH, BUSINESS INCUBATOR. 
          OKAY. 
          TELL ME MORE. 
          HAS THAT BEEN GOING ON FOR A WHILE? ? WHAT? I, I, I DON'T COMPLAIN THOUGH. 
          I DON'T COMPLAIN. 
          WHAT? I WAS LIKE, HASN'T THAT BEEN GOING ON FOR A WHILE? I'M TRYING CAN, BUT NOW WE HAVE IT IN WRITING. 
          WHERE'S THAT WAND? . 
          SO SHE, I APOLOGIZE IF I HAVE COFFEE, BREATH. 
          NO. 
          UM, HERE WE GO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          IF YOU TURN, STEP GETS UPSET. 
          I AGREE WITH YOU THERE. 
          UM, AND THEN A POLICE SUBSTATION WOULD ALSO BE ON THE, ON THE DOWNTOWN SHORT TERM. 
          IT'S A SHORT TERM IN MY MIND. 
          OKAY. 
          IS, IS, IS THAT ON THE PLAN? WHAT IS THE SHORT TERM, 
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UH, SUB POLICE SUBSTATION. 
          SUBSTATION. 
          THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS NEEDED. 
          AND I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT IT, CHIEF W RIGHT? AND WE WERE GONNA LOOK TO SEE IF THERE, THIS, THERE WAS, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WERE WILLING, BUT IS IT FEASIBLE? UM, IS THERE ANY, ANY PLACE THAT, UH, WOULD LEND ITSELF TO, TO THAT? AND CAN WE AFFORD THAT? IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN DO? WE USED TO HAVE ONE BEFORE THERE. 
          I WAS TO SAY THAT WE DID MM-HMM . 
          DOWNTOWN, BUT WE NEXT TO DON GOTOS, LIKE NEXT TO S OR BETAS. 
          IT WAS, THAT WAS DELO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHERE MORE BUSINESSES, RESTAURANTS, ET CETERA, YOU START BRINGING MORE PEOPLE IN MIGHT BE ABLE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          SO A MIDTERM GOAL. 
          WE CAN DO MIDTERM GOAL, BUT WE'VE ALREADY, IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER, WE'VE ALREADY GONE FOR A, UH, APPRAISAL WITH A PROPERTY. 
          I'M LOOKING AT. 
          I I DON'T, TO ME IT'S WHAT, WHAT DOES THE COMMISSION WANT? SO WE CAN JUST PUT IT ON THE, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M JUST WANNA KNOW WHERE, WHERE DOES IT FIT? MIDTERM. 
          WE CAN DO MIDTERM MID. 
          THAT WORKS. 
          ARE WE PLANNING ON BUYING A PROPERTY OR LEASING A PROPERTY? I WOULD LIKE US TO BUY THE PROPERTY. 
          AND THE PROPERTY IS THE ONE THAT WE GOT APPRAISED. 
          GOTCHA. 
          IS THE ONE THAT I HAVE MY EYE ON. 
          IS IT WEST OR EAST OF, UH, COMMERCE? WEST? WEST. 
          WEST. 
          WEST? YOU KNOW WHICH ONE I'M TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? NO, I HAVE NO IDEA. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, I'LL TELL YOU GUYS LATER. 
          SO, , OKAY. 
          IT'S A, IT'S A, A, A REAL ESTATE NEGOTIATION, WHICH IS CONFIDENTIAL. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I CAN TELL YOU GUYS A LOT LATER, I DO THINK THAT, UM, ONE OF THE SHORT TERM GOALS THAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH, LIKE WITHOUT EVEN, UM, EXPENDING ANY ADDITIONAL DOLLARS, IS MAKING SURE THAT THE DOWNTOWN POLICE OFFICERS THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO THAT AREA, UM, THAT THERE IS A PLAN IN PLACE WITH ALEXIS ON WHAT THAT, UH, WHAT THEIR VISIBILITY LOOKS LIKE, HOW THEY ARE IDENTIFIED, UM, NOT JUST TO THE BUSINESS OWNERS, BUT TO THE PUBLIC ALSO, AND HAVING AN APPEARANCE DOWNTOWN. 
          UM, BECAUSE YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT IN YOUR, YOU ALREADY HAVE SOMEONE DE DEDICATED TO DOWNTOWN, CORRECT? NOT RIGHT NOW. 
          WE DO PATROL IN DOWNTOWN. 
          WE RESPOND, BUT WE'VE BEEN, UM, IT'S BEEN, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY MAJOR CALLS DOWNTOWN. 
          MM-HMM . 
          . 
          UM, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY MAJOR CALLS THE LAST, UH, A BURGLARY. 
          A BURGLARY MM-HMM . 
          TWO WEEKS, TWO OR THREE WEEKS AGO. 
          YEAH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I THINK IT'S BENEFICIAL TO HAVE A, A VISIBLE PRESENCE AND A WELCOMING PRESENCE OF POLICE DOWNTOWN JUST BECAUSE IT'S MORE INVITING. 
          IF I'M LOOKING FOR PROPERTY TO PURCHASE AND TO REDEVELOP, AND I SEE THAT THE POLICE HAVE A, A, A PRESENCE AND, AND, AND IT'S NOT JUST, UM, ENFORCEMENT, IT'S ALSO JUST PART OF THAT COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY, OH, THOSE ARE THE DOWNTOWN POLICE OFFICERS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          MAYBE THEY DRESS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, OR MAYBE THEY WALK THROUGH DOWNTOWN ALSO AND NOT JUST DRIVE THROUGH. 
          YEAH. 
          I WAS JUST READING AN ARTICLE ABOUT THEY CAN RIDE HORSES, CINCINNATI, POLICE HORSES. 
          REINI SAYS HORSES. 
          . 
          I, YOU LAUGH, BUT I WOULD SEE THEM IN DOWNTOWN HOUSTON. 
          THEY WERE INTIMIDATING. 
          OH, YEAH. 
          WHEN I WOULD WALK TO AND FROM THE COURTHOUSE, UH, DURING MY INTERNSHIP, I WAS LIKE, CAT, WHO'S GONNA PEEK CLEAN UP? SO I WAS, UH, READING AN ARTICLE YESTERDAY ON THE CINCINNATI POLICE MM-HMM . 
          UM, THEY WEAR WHITE HATS. 
          OH. 
          IT'S A TRA IT'S A TRADITION. 
          THEY WEAR WHITE HATS AND, UH, TIMES THEY WEAR WHITE SHIRTS. 
          SO, AND I THINK THAT YOUR PD WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE SOME, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE SUMMERTIME, MAYBE SOME SHORTS. 
          UH, SHORTS. 
          SHORTS. 
          NO, THE BIKE PATROL DOES. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          WHATEVER Y'ALL COMFORTABLE WITH THE BIKE PATROL, JUST TO MAKE YOU ALL FEEL, NOT LIKE DAISY DUKES CALM DOWN . 
          BUT SOME PROFESSIONAL LOOKING SHORTS, UM, ARE HERE. 
          IT'S HOT. 
          AND OUR, OUR, OUR COMMUNITY OFFICERS WEAR SHORTS ON IN THE SUMMERS. 
          YEAH, I SEE THEM. 
          ME TOO. 
          AND THEN THEY WEAR, AND THEY HAVE THEIR LITTLE POLOS. 
          MAYBE IT SAYS DOWNTOWN AND REAL CONDESCENDING, LITTLE POLOS . 
          I, I'M, I'M WEARING A LITTLE POLO, BUT JUST GO, GOING BACK TO, UH, OUR PATROLS IN THE AREA. 
          WE ARE CONSTANTLY PATROLLING THE AREA. 
          AND, AND I KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY OFFICERS KEEP IN TOUCH WITH ALEXIS AND I DRIVE BY THERE VERY OFTEN. 
          SO I KNOW THAT SHE KNOWS THAT A LOT OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS THAT, BUT THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE DON'T KNOW THAT. 
          AND SO IF YOU HAVE AVIS VISIBLE PRESENCE, WHENEVER I GO TO A DOWNTOWN AND I SEE THAT THERE IS A, LIKE A, IN ANOTHER COMMUNITY AND THERE IS A SUBSTATION, I THINK THAT'S PRETTY, PRETTY NEAT, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          THAT THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S POLICE IN THE AREA AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, WALKING AROUND OR LIKE YOU SAID, IN THE HORSES DOWNTOWN IN, IN, IN HOUSTON. 
          RIGHT. 
          THOSE GUYS ARE, WE DON'T MESS AROUND WITH THOSE GUYS AROUND. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, YOU FEEL THERE'S A SENSE OF SECURITY WHEN YOU YES, MA'AM. 
          WHEN YOU HAVE POLICE PRESENCE. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING, IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE ON OUR LIST HERE, IT'S JUST SOMETHING INTERNALLY THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? ON THE LONG TERM? 
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WE HAVE, UH, STRUCTURED PARKING IF NEEDED, BUILT ONLY WHEN DEMAND THRESHOLDS ARE MET. 
          I AGREE. 
          THAT'S A LONG TERM. 
          UM, I THINK WE NEED TO BE A COMMUNITY OF WALKING. 
          WE WANNA EN EN ENCOURAGE WALKING, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S REALLY OUR GOAL AT THIS POINT. 
          AGREED. 
          AS NEEDED. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'VE GOT 14 PROJECTS IDENTIFIED ALREADY, SO I THINK, OKAY. 
          SO I THINK WE'RE GOOD. 
          UM, ARE WE, IS THERE ANYTHING ANYONE WANTS TO ADD BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO PARKS? I THINK WE'VE COVERED THE WATERFRONT. 
          AND AGAIN, IF WE'RE GONNA COME BACK TO THIS EVERY YEAR, IF SOMETHING CHANGES MM-HMM . 
          WE CAN AMEND IT AT THAT TIME. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          WELL, WE'LL TAKE A TWO MINUTE RECESS AND THEN WE'LL START WITH PARKS. 
          THANK YOU. 
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YEAH, 
          [01:44:04]
I 
          [01:44:04]
THINK HE LEFT, LEFT, AND I CAN'T SEE WHAT YOU HAVE. 
          HE SAID HE WOULD BE BACK A BUNCH OF S MUCH MARKS. 
          JUST DANIEL, WHY IS IT, UH, UM, I HAVE PAPER TOWEL. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THE TIME IS NOW 9:34 PM I'M SORRY. 
          AM . 
          AND WE ARE BACK. 
          UM, WE TOOK A SHORT RECESS, UH, JUST FOR THE RECORD, COMMISSIONER MIKE MESMER HAS STEPPED OUT. 
          I THINK HE'LL BE BACK, UH, LATER THIS MORNING. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          MOVING FORWARD. 
          AND WE ARE GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO PARKSCAPE. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, IN, UH, YOUR PACKET, YOU HAVE THE PARKS PLAN. 
          AND I ALSO HANDED OUT, UM, A LIST THAT DANNY, UH, DS WENT THROUGH AND PRIORITIZED FOR PARKS. 
          THEN I ALSO HAVE, UM, A LIST THAT I WENT THROUGH AS WELL AND CAME UP WITH A PRIORITY LIST. 
          UH, NOW, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER THIS MORNING, 
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THE, UH, FIRST SEVEN ARE ACTUALLY PROJECTS THAT I'VE RECEIVED, GRANT FUNDS. 
          SO I MADE THOSE A PRIORITY. 
          THERE'S ALSO A LIST IN HIS, UH, HANDOUT AS WELL. 
          AND THE ONLY ONE THAT HASN'T RECEIVED A GRANT, BUT WE HAVE FUNDED THROUGH THE FOUR B IS PROJECT NUMBER EIGHT, THE POCKET PARK AND SURF PLACE. 
          SO THAT WAS INCLUDED AS PART OF THE ORIGINAL PARKS FOR, UM, UH, PRIORITY, HAVING RECEIVED FUNDING ALREADY, INCLUDING LOZANO PLAZA, WHICH IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AS WE SPEAK. 
          IS THE TENNIS COURT ALSO UNDER CONSTRUCTION? 'CAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT THE, OR ALMOST FINISHED. 
          'CAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT IT. 
          I WAS READING THE THING AND IT SAID FEBRUARY. 
          GOOD. 
          YES. 
          YES, SIR. 
          COMMISSIONER IT IS, THEY'RE WORKING ON IT. 
          THEY SHOULD BE DONE, UH, NEXT WEEK WITH THOSE, UH, IMPROVEMENTS THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT ONE WE CAN PRETTY MUCH SCRATCH OUT THEN, RIGHT? WE HAVE IT, YES, SIR. 
          WE, IT'S OKAY. 
          TENNIS AND THE LONA PLAZA, WHEN ARE GONNA BE DONE, THE GOAL IS TO FINISH THAT, UH, THE END OF THE MONTH IN MARCH. 
          SO IT COULD BE READY TO ROLL FOR, UH, APRIL 4TH, UH, RIBBON CUTTING. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? SO THAT ONE'S ALMOST DONE SHORT TERM AT VICTOR PARK. 
          OH, NO, AT THE, THE, IN PENDLETON. 
          WELL, HE WAS SAYING THAT THE UTSA ONE'S BASICALLY GONNA BE DONE BY NEXT WEEK. 
          THAT'S THE PENDLETON ONE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH, THE TENNIS COURT. 
          TENNIS COURT. 
          VICTOR PARK, TENNIS COURTS. 
          WELL, THESE ARE VICTOR PARK. 
          VICTOR PARK. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          WHICH, WHICH ONES ARE VICTOR PARK? THE U-U-S-U-S-S-T-A. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          SO ON THESE, THE ITEMS ONE THROUGH SIX, DANNY HAVE GRANT FUNDING, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. 
          UH, TWO THROUGH SIX. 
          YEAH, TWO THROUGH. 
          WELL, HARLAN AND REC CENTER HAS, UH, GRANT FUNDING TOO. 
          YES, CORRECT. 
          YEAH, WE HAVE MULTIPLE, UH, GRANTS ON, ON THAT ONE. 
          SO WE'VE GOT THE LEGACY FOUNDATION, WE'VE GOT THE PARKS AND FOUR B UH, REC, AND WE HAVE THE FOUR B, AND WE HAVE SOME CONTRIBUTION FROM THE CITY TO CREATE THIS. 
          AND SO HOW MUCH TOTAL? I, I THINK WE'RE AT 6 MILLION. 
          SO THAT WE'VE ALREADY, THAT WE HAVE IN THE BUCKET. 
          UHHUH. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          AND HOW MUCH IS THE TOTAL COST? I THINK WE WERE AT 6 MILLION BY 6 MILLION. 
          YES. 
          SO ON THAT, I THINK, UM, YES, THAT IS A, A, A, A PRIORITY. 
          VICTOR PARK I THINK IS, UM, DEFINITELY, UH, WE NEED TO GET WORKING ON THAT. 
          AND I BELIEVE YOU'VE ALREADY STARTED ON THAT, RIGHT, ANNA? YOU? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN WHAT I DON'T SEE HERE IS A ROYAL PARK. 
          WE HAVE GRANT FUNDING FOR A ROYAL WHERE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED TO, TO THIS LIST. 
          UM, THE LIGHTING YET AND THE PLANTING OF THE TREES AND THE WILSON SPORTS CONFERENCE, BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE FUNDING FROM THE CDDG FOR THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, IS WILSON, ISN'T DIXIELAND, SHOULDN'T THAT ONE BE ON HERE TOO? OR THAT'S NOT, WOULD THAT BE CONSIDERED WOULD, THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING ON IT, SO, UM, THAT'S ALMOST COMPLETED, RIGHT, DANNY? MM-HMM . 
          THEY'RE WORKING ON IT. 
          WE'RE JUST WAITING ON THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE TO GET HERE SO THEY COULD BE INSTALLED. 
          YEAH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH, UH, UNDERWAY. 
          SO WE DIDN'T INCLUDE THAT ONE. 
          IS WILSON GOING BACK TO WILSON, UH, IS THAT BEING FULLY BUILT OUT WITH EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED? THE WILSON SPORTS COMPLEX, THAT FUNDING IS THROUGH THE CDBG, UM, THROUGH THE RESURFACING AND, UH, SHADED STRUCTURES AND, UH, RESURFACING OF THE BASKETBALL COURTS AND THE TRAIL. 
          AND THE TRAIL, YEAH. 
          SO THEN WE'LL BE DONE WITH WILSON. 
          WE SHOULD BE DONE HOPEFULLY AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, THIS FISCAL YEAR. 
          PERFECT. 
          AND WHEN IS, UM, I, I'M GOING BACK TO THE LIGHTING, UM, 'CAUSE I KNOW I'VE ASKED YOU ABOUT IT. 
          ANY UPDATES ON A EP ABOUT THE LIGHTING? THEY DID REPLACE THE, THE PEDESTAL WITH THE NEW TRANSFORMER THERE. 
          UM, THEY HAVE, UH, REPLACED SOME HEADS, BUT THERE'S STILL SOME POLES THAT ARE MISSING THE ACTUAL FIXTURE ON IT. 
          UH, I CAN REACH OUT AGAIN TO ARNOLD, UH, MONDAY AND SEE WHERE WE SIT WITH THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          'CAUSE I GO, I GO, I WALK THAT NOW LIKE PRETTY MUCH EVERY OTHER DAY. 
          AND THEN IT'S LIKE, IT SHOWS . 
          I KNEW YOU WORE THAT SUIT FOR A REASON. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UM, NO. 
          UM, AND I, I WALK IN LIKE EVERY DAY, EVERY OTHER DAY AND I, AND I WAS WALKING WITH A FRIEND OF MINE AND WE WERE WALKING AROUND IT AND THEN ATE SUPER, SUPER DARK. 
          AND THEN THERE WAS, THERE WAS SOME GUYS THAT WERE THERE AND ESTO AND HE'S ALL LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, LET'S GO. 
          I WAS LIKE, DUDE, WHERE ARE WE GOING? WE SHOULD LEAVE. 
          BUT THAT'S WHATEVER. 
          THE REASON I'M BRINGING THAT UP IS 'CAUSE IT, I SEE IT AS A REAL SAFETY HAZARD. 
          IT IS, YES. 
          AND UH, I KNOW EVEN WITH THE EXISTING LIGHTING THAT'S THERE, IT'S NOT ENOUGH. 
          WE, WE, WE NEED TO LOOK INTO ADDING SOME MORE, SOME MORE LIGHTING THERE. 
          THAT'S NOT GOOD PLACE. 
          PLEASE SET MYSELF UP. 
          , THAT STORY TOOK ABOUT SOME WILD TURNS. 
          I WASN'T EXPECTING ALL THAT, BUT, SO 
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THE QUESTION WILSON PARK, ONCE WE'VE COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION IS DONE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN DIXIELAND, OTHER THAN WE WE'RE DOING THE CONSTRUCTION FOR THE, THE FRISBEE GOLF, HAS THAT BEEN COMPLETED? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, SO YEAH. 
          I THINK WE NEED TO  WE NEED TO JUST, UM, BECAUSE ROLANDO'S WAITING FOR US HERE, UM, NUMBER HARLAN AND REC CENTER, UH, ON THE SHORT TERM VICTOR PARK. 
          I TRIED TO STAY FOCUSED WITH YOU. 
          I KNOW IT'S HARD. 
          I REALLY DID. 
          I WAS TRYING TO STAY FOCUSED , I DUNNO WHY YOU DID THAT. 
          BUT THE, SO CAN WE TAKE OFF THE TENNIS COURT RESURFACING? BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING THIS IS ALMOST COMPLETE, DANNY. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          I LIKE LEAVING THEM ON THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          THEN WE NEED TO ADD THE DIXIELAND PART, CORRECT? THAT'S WHAT IT MINE ON MINE. 
          I'VE ADDED WILSON AND DIXIELAND. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL. 
          SO THEN, THEN LET'S, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA KEEP 'EM ON JUST SO THAT WAY WE KNOW UNTIL THEY, WHAT THEIR GOALS ARE. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO VICTOR PARK AND THEN ARROYO PARK. 
          THE VICTOR PARK, UM, RESURFACING OF THE TENNIS COURTS. 
          WE'RE GONNA KEEP THAT EVEN THOUGH IT'S DONE NEXT WEEK. 
          YES, YES. 
          WHICH IS SEPARATE AND APART FROM THE MAJOR RENOVATION OF VICTOR PARK BECAUSE CORRECT. 
          WE'RE THAT THAT'S THE GRANT THAT WE NEED TO GET ON ASAP. 
          UM, AND THEN YOU WERE ADDING, WHAT WAS THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER WILSON AND DIXIELAND TOO. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WILSON PARK AND WHAT ARE WE DOING IN WILSON PARK? ARE THE TRAIL, THE TRAIL, THE RESURFACING BASKETBALL COURTS, THE SHADE STRUCTURES AND THE, DID I SAY BASKETBALL COURT? YEAH. 
          OH, UH, STAFF REACHED OUT TO ME 'CAUSE I WAS MEETING WITH, UM, SUPERINTENDENT TON MM-HMM . 
          ABOUT WILSON. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THEY TALKED TO YOU ABOUT IT, THAT THE SUGGESTION MADE TO ME TO TALK TO CORTON ABOUT WAS APPARENTLY THE HARLINGEN, HISD DOES THEIR CROSS COUNTRY TRAINING. 
          YEAH. 
          MY SON, UH, I FIGURED, I REMEMBERED YOU DEAN. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THAT THE STAFF SAID, HEY, WE HAVE A BUNCH OF DIRT ABOUT MAKING IT HILLY AND ALL THAT SO THAT WHEN WE COMPETE IN LIKE SAN ANTONIO, THAT WE GET OUR, OUR TEAMS CAN DO BETTER 'CAUSE AT LEAST THEY HAVE SOME BETTER. 
          OR WE HELP THEM WITH THEIR TRAINING. 
          CORTON SEEMED VERY, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. 
          'CAUSE EVEN AT DONNA, THE 'CAUSE I, WHEN I WOULD GO WITH MY SON'S MEETS, THEY HAVE THE HILLS. 
          SO I WOULD ASK, SINCE WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT WILSON, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER ADDING THAT TO YOUR PLAN, YOUR WILSON PLAN. 
          IF WE HAVE THE DIRT, GO FOR IT. 
          YEAH, WE SHOULD. 
          YEAH. 
          OH, WE GOT PLENTY. 
          SO OSCAR'S GONNA HAVE A LOT FROM THE DRAINAGE PROJECTS. 
          YEAH. 
          WE JUST HAVE, I GUESS GET WITH DANNY ON THAT AND DANNY CAN COORDINATE, RIGHT? YEP. 
          YES SIR. 
          YEAH. 
          AS A MATTER OF FACT, I ALREADY SET UP A MEETING WITH HISD COACHES TO TALK. 
          PERFECT. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THEN, AND THEN WE HAVE THE, THE LIGHTING PROJECT. 
          THE RETROFIT LIGHTING RETROFIT PROJECT. 
          UM, ON THIS ONE, HAVE WE BOUGHT ALL THE LIGHTS? ? NO. 
          COMMISSIONER, THIS IS THROUGH, UH, THE GRAND GOES JUST FOR THE TOM YOUTH, TOM YOUTH WILSON SPORTS, UH, COMPLEX. 
          AND IT'S, UH, FOR FOUR FIELDS ONLY. 
          IT'S NOTHING FOR THE ADULT, BUT IT, IT'S, UH, IT'S STILL IN THE PROCESS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT'S THE SPORTS. 
          YES. 
          LIGHTING. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THERE, THIS IS JUST A QUESTION I HAVE JUST ON ALL SPORTS LIGHTING. 
          I KNOW YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT CONVERTING, AT LEAST FOR MY PARKS AND ALL THAT. 
          UH, THE LIGHTING TO BE, UH, DARK SKYLIGHTS. 
          ARE THERE A DARK SKYLIGHT VERSION FOR, UH, SPORTS PARKS? I'M NOT SURE. 
          IF NOT, IF YOU DON'T KNOW. 
          YEAH, I'M NOT SURE. 
          WE CAN JUST RESEARCH IT. 
          I'D HAVE TO, I'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, SO THAT'S STAYING ON HERE. 
          AND THEN WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE KAYAK LAUNCH? I, I'VE HEARD THAT SINCE I GOT HERE. 
          IN FACT, TO THE SAN ANTONIO EXPRESS SAID THAT THEY WERE GONNA BREAK GROUND THIS SUMMER ON IT. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY GOT THAT INFORMATION. 
          UH, BUT THEY GOT IT FROM SOMEWHERE. 
          I HAVEN'T, I MEAN, YES, I'VE BEEN HEARING IT FOR QUITE SOME TIME. 
          BUT WHAT'S THE REALISTIC TIMELINE ON THAT? THE PLANNING AND THE DESIGN IS ALREADY COMPLETE. 
          UH, I KNOW THE, WE MET WITH THEM A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, UH, TO WHERE WE HAD TO DO SOME CHANGES. 
          ROBERT ASKED FOR SOME CHANGES. 
          UH, SO THEY WERE, THEY WERE GONNA DO THAT AND THEY WERE GONNA SEND US BACK THE, THE CHANGES FROM WITH HANSON FROM THE ACTUAL DESIGN. 
          YEAH, CORRECT. 
          YOU MET WITH HANSON. 
          SO THIS IS A, A VIABLE PROJECT MOVING FORWARD. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I WAS JUST, WE'RE MOVING TO THE FUNDING STAGE, WHICH I THINK IS GONNA BE FANTASTIC. 
          OKAY. 
          THE ISSUE I HAVE, UH, IN THINKING ABOUT IT JUST 'CAUSE OF, I, I GOT SIDETRACKED ON SOMETHING, IS THE 
          [01:55:01]
WATER QUALITY OF THE AR ROYAL PART OF THE, UH, AR ROYAL COLORADO. 
          WHAT I'VE BEEN READING IS THAT WE HAVE LIKE HIGH BACTERIAL RATES BECAUSE OF, UH, UH, RUNOFF INTO THE ROYAL. 
          AND SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE US TO LOOK AT ONE OF THE MID TO LONG-TERM GOALS IS HOW WE CAN WORK WITH, UM, THE I-I-B-W-C, UH, TCEQ, TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE AND FIGURING OUT A WAY THERE, A DIXIELAND STARTING AT DIXIELAND, UH, DOING A WATER CLEANUP AND SEEING WHAT WE CAN, IF THERE'S NATIVE PLANTS THAT WE CAN, UH, PLANT TO DO ALL THAT CLEANUP OF THAT WATER. 
          BECAUSE IF PEOPLE ARE GONNA GET INTO THE WATER AT ED CAREY AND BE KAYAKING FROM ED CAREY ALL THE WAY OUT TO AURORA CITY, LET'S SAY, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT AT LEAST OUR PORTION OF THAT WATER'S CLEAN. 
          YES. 
          SO GOING BACK, IS THIS THE, IT SAYS THE PLANNING PROJECT. 
          SO ARE WE ON, ARE WE GOING TO EXECUTE ON THIS PLAN OR ARE WE STILL, 'CAUSE WE'VE BEEN IN THE PLANNING PHASE FOR QUITE SOME TIME, SO WE'RE READY TO GO CONTINGENT TO WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? PLANNING, KAYAK LAUNCH PLANNING PROJECT. 
          OH, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THEIR LIST. 
          YEAH. 
          THE PLAN'S DONE, ESSENTIALLY, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID. 
          THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING, 'CAUSE IT SAID HERE PLANNING PROJECT, BUT IT'S NOT A PLANNING PROJECT. 
          'CAUSE WE'VE BEEN PLANNING FOR QUITE SOME TIME. 
          SO THIS IS WITHIN THE NEXT THREE YEARS TO START CONSTRUCTION. 
          AND I WOULD SAY THAT WE'D PROBABLY NEED TO REVISIT THE WATER, UM, SITUATION PRIOR TO WELL, CORRECT. 
          SO I WOULD SAY THAT WHAT WE WOULD DO IS THEN PUT THE KAYAK CONTINGENT UPON, WE WOULD PUT IT UNDER LONG TERM. 
          WE WOULD PUT IT UNDER MIDTERM, BECAUSE I WANT TO START MOVING ON THAT RIGHT AWAY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          RIGHT. 
          IF I MAY. 
          UM, SO FOR THAT PROJECT IN PARTICULAR, SO THE PLANNING OR THE, UM, THE ULTIMATE GOAL FOR THE PLANNING GRANT WAS TO DEVELOP THE A HUNDRED PERCENT CONSTRUCTION PLANS FOR THE KAYAK AND SEE IF IT WAS FEASIBLE. 
          WE ALREADY GOT ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE. 
          AND SO WE DO HAVE PREFERENCE, UH, FOR CONSTRUCTION FUNDS. 
          SO WE DECIDE TO APPLY IN FEBRUARY. 
          WE SHOULD KNOW BY AUGUST THAT WE GET THE FUNDING. 
          BUT WE SHOULD, BECAUSE SHORT TERM, THAT WAS PART OF THE, UM, KIND OF THE PHASE APPROACH, UM, FROM THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE. 
          SO THAT SHORT TERM IT IS OKAY. 
          KAYAK LAUNCH. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          PERFECT. 
          TO TODAY'S THE LAST DAY OF FEBRUARY. 
          SO NEXT YEAR. 
          OH, NEXT YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S STILL SHORT TERM IN OUR, IN OUR, IN OUR, UH, SCHEME OF THINGS. 
          SO THE TALKING ABOUT, UH, A ROYAL WATER QUALITY, IS THAT A HEALTH ISSUE? JUST 'CAUSE SHE'S LOOKING AT A PHONE RIGHT NOW. 
          . 
          WELL, I MEAN, ANNA SAYING THAT THEY'VE GOT CLEARANCE AND THEY DID THE ENVIRONMENTALS, AND I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS. 
          UM, CAN YOU LOOK INTO THAT FOR US AND THEN WE CAN, WHAT I'VE READ IS THAT THE, THE RURAL COLORADO IS CLEARED FOR IN BOAT ACTIVITY. 
          'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT SPLASHING AROUND IN . 
          BUT I WOULD LIKE, IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN CLEAN IT UP AND IF THERE'S MONEY OUT THERE. 
          'CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S MONEY FOR A BUNCH OF THESE TYPES OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROJECTS. 
          ESPECIALLY, I WENT TO THE WATER, UH, THE WATER, CLE, THE WATER 1 0 1, AND CHANGING LAW, CHANGING WATER, THE FACE OF WATER LAW. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THERE'S A BUNCH OF GRANTS FOR WATER CONSERVATION, WATER CLEANUP, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          SO, GREAT. 
          I THINK IF WE CAN MAKE THAT A NICE AREA, THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          WHAT ARE WE EXPECTING TO, UM, TO PUT INTO THIS KAYAK? HOW MUCH ARE WE PUTTING INTO THIS KAYAK PLAN? IT'S A GRANT. 
          OH, IT'S A GRANT. 
          IT'S A GRANT. 
          AND WHAT'S THE EXPECTED, UH, PLAN OF INVESTMENT? I MEAN, THE RETURN PLAN OF INVESTMENT. 
          WHAT ARE WE EXPECTING TO GET FROM IT, LIKE FROM VISITORS AND WHAT DO WE EXPECT TO GET ON IT? UM, COMMISSIONER, NONE OF OUR PARKS GENERATE ANY REVENUE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OR ENOUGH TO COVER THE EXPENSES. 
          OUR POOLS, THE ONLY ONE THAT DOES IS A GOLF COURSE. 
          UH, AND I THINK THIS YEAR THEY MAY REACH, UH, AT LEAST, UH, A ZERO BUDGET WHERE THEY'VE GOT ENOUGH REVENUE TO COVER ALL THEIR EXPENDITURES. 
          AND IF THE TREND CONTINUES, IT'LL BE, UH, PROFITABLE THIS YEAR FOR THE FIRST TIME IN OVER 10 YEARS. 
          SO THIS IS NOT GONNA GENERATE ANY REVENUE. 
          IT'S JUST GONNA BE TO GET VISITORS TO COME DOWN TO HARLINGEN. 
          AND, AND, OKAY. 
          SO THIS IS ABOUT, UM, BRINGING ATTRACTION AND QUALITY. 
          QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          YES. 
          QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THIS IS MY OTHER QUESTION ABOUT THIS. 
          WE HAVE A BOAT RAMP TO GET IN. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WHAT DO YOU GET OUT? DO WE HAVE THAT PLAN? THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO PADDLE BACK. 
          , ? NO. 
          YES. 
          IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A PART OF THE KAYAKING. 
          YES. 
          YOU LAUNCH AND THEN WHEREVER YOU'RE GOING, YOU COME BACK. 
          SO I GUESS THE CLOSEST ONE WOULD BE HONDO. 
          IT'S HONDO, THE CLOSEST ONE GOING NORTH. 
          IT'LL BE AT, UH, JENNY YOU WOULD KNOW, RIGHT? I MEAN, HONDO. 
          YES. 
          HONDO. 
          WELL, IT DOES MAKE SENSE. 
          YOU PARK AND YOU NEED TO, YOU GO AND YOU COME BACK. 
          SO THE MILEAGE IN RETURN WOULD BE HOW MUCH? IF THEY COME BACK, I WANT YOU, I WANT YOU TO, TO KAYAK THE, IT'S A LONG WAY. 
          I'VE DONE IT IN THE BAY. 
          I MEAN, IF YOU KAYAKING YES. 
          IF YOU GO SUPER SICK. 
          OH, IT'S, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. 
          NO, NO. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I SORRY. 
          NO, THAT'S OKAY. 
          PLEASE. 
          BUT WHAT I, AND I LIKE TO HEAR IT'S ONE TOO. 
          . 
          I'M SORRY, KEEP GOING. 
          NO, I SAID IF YOU COME BACK TO THE SAME BOAT RAMP, WHAT'S THE MILEAGE? IF YOU, I MEAN, WHERE DO YOU RETURN OR YOU JUST GO AND THINK, I'M TIRED. 
          COME BACK. 
          YEAH, PRETTY MUCH. 
          IT'S ONE OF 
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THOSE WHERE YOU TAKE OFF AND YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY, WELL I'M GONNA BE OUT HERE FOR 30 MINUTES AND THEN I'M GONNA TURN AROUND AND COME BACK. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT'S UP TO, TO THE PERSON. 
          YES. 
          UH, ONE THING, ONE THING THAT I WOULD SAY IS, UH, WE NEED TO REALLY THINK ABOUT THIS IS FOR THAT REASON THAT WE MIGHT GET SOME PEOPLE THAT GET TIRED AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO MAKE IT BACK. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND IT'S ABOUT THE SAFETY OF, OF THE PERSON. 
          YEAH. 
          WHAT I, I APOLOGIZE. 
          SO WHAT DO WE DO AT THAT POINT? DO WE, DO WE HAVE THE SAFETY IN MIND OF THE PERSON THAT DOESN'T, WE'LL HAVE TO COME UP WITH A, A, A PLAN TO WHERE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE AN ACCESS. 
          I KNOW, UH, THE FIRE CHIEF ABOUT AB EZ AND HIS CREW, THEY HAD, UH, DONE SOME TRAINING ALONG THE ARROYO. 
          SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONSIDER AS WELL IN THAT AREA. 
          SO, UH, CHIEF, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE, UH, AT US ON THE SIDES, OR THAT WOULD BE A CALL THAT SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE TO MAKE IT, IT WOULD'VE TO BE A 9 1 1 CALL. 
          YEAH. 
          I DON'T THINK WE'D BE PROVIDING FIRE PERSONNEL TO GET ANYBODY OUT OF THE ROYAL COMMISSIONER. 
          I THINK WHAT WE COULD DO IS JUST PUT  WELL, NO, NO, THAT'S, THAT'S OUTTA YOUR BUDGET CHIEF. 
          NO, THAT'S ANOTHER TRUCK. 
          ANOTHER NINE PERSONNEL AND A NO, NO, I GET IT. 
          I GET IT. 
          BUT TO YOUR POINT, THE WAY I ALWAYS IMAGINE, UH, IS THAT ONE DAY I'LL RETIRE AND OPEN A KAYAK PLACE ON THE ROYAL IN KELLEY PARK. 
          AND I THOUGHT THAT WELL, WE COULD, WE DID ASK FOR CONFLICTS AT THE VERY BEGINNING, SIR . 
          YEAH. 
          BUT WE CAN GO OUT FOR A CONTRACT TO SEE IF ANYONE WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THE SHUTTLING. 
          LIKE YOU SEE LIKE IN, UM, IN LIKE SAN MARCO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, RIGHT. 
          WHERE YOU CAN RENT THE KAYAK AND THEN THEY'LL PICK YOU UP IN REAL HONDO AND THEN BUST YOU BACK WITH THE TRUCKS. 
          YEAH. 
          I WOULD NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE. 
          AND I DON'T THINK ANYONE ON THIS COMMISSION WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE JUST SAYING, OKAY, IT'S OPEN. 
          HAVE AT IT. 
          Y'ALL DO YOUR OWN THING. 
          THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT, UM, PRUDENT. 
          AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO BEFORE, WHICH IS WHY I THINK IT'S MORE OF A MIDTERM, UM, PROJECT FOR ACTUAL EXECUTION. 
          I DO UNDERSTAND THE CONSTRUCTION PART OF IT AND, AND STAYING IN LINE WITH THE GRANT. 
          BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE, PEOPLE ARE SAFE. 
          BUT FOR THE MOST PART, WHENEVER, I MEAN WE HAVE GONE OUT, WHEN YOU GO OUT TO KAYAK, YOU COME BACK WHERE YOU STARTED, LIKE EVEN IN THE OPEN WATER. 
          WHY WOULD YOU WELL, I'VE KAYAKED, BUT IT'S BEEN IN LAKES. 
          IN THE LAKES. 
          IN LAKES, I'VE, WHEN I'VE KAYAKED IT'S BEEN IN LAKES. 
          WELL THOSE ARE MORE, UM, LIKE A GUIDED, UH, IT'S, IT'S SLOW AND IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THE ROYAL, IT'S NOT WHERE IT TAKES YOU. 
          IT'S LAKE. 
          YEAH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER EZ IS BRINGING UP FUTURE THOUGHT IS WE ARE GONNA BE EXTENDING THE WALKING TRAIL GOING NORTH, RIGHT FROM HUGH RAMSEY, I MCKELVY TO, UH, HUGH RAMSEY. 
          WELL, THERE'S THAT ONE. 
          WE, NO, THE OTHER SIDE FROM EY LAND TO THE LAKES TOWARDS 5 0 9. 
          WHAT ABOUT EVENTUALLY BUILDING A SECOND KAYAK LAUNCH AT THAT LOCATION SO THAT THEN YOU COULD KAYAK AND THEN YOU ALREADY HAVE A PICKUP LOCATION THERE. 
          ANOTHER THOUGHT THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. 
          YES, FOR SURE. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, SAFETY IS, IS DEFINITELY FIRST AND PRIORITY. 
          I, I'VE KAYAK MYSELF AND, UM, WHEN YOU GOT A CURRENT, WHEN YOU'RE GOING AGAINST THE CURRENT MM-HMM . 
          IT'S TOUGH. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT. 
          START AT THE UP. 
          UH, SO WHEN TO GET IN, THEY'LL BE GOING DOWNSTREAM. 
          DOWNSTREAM, YEAH. 
          MAKES IT EASIER. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, ANOTHER PROJECT THAT'S NOT ON HERE IS, UH, OUR VILLE PARK. 
          THERE'S ALSO FUNDING, UH, FOR THE, FOR LIGHTING THERE AS WELL. 
          SO I THINK THAT SHOULD BE ADDED TO THE SHORT, SHORT TERM LIST AS WELLVILLE PARK. 
          COMMISSIONER, YOU GOT ANYTHING ELSE THERE? MORALES? NO, NOT JUST YET. 
          UM, RIGHT NOW MY CONCERN IS VICTOR PARK. 
          UM, ARE YOU GOING TO COMPLETE THAT, UH, SPLASH PAD? THAT WAS AS FOR A WHILE BACK. 
          THAT'S ALREADY BEEN BIDDED OUT THERE. 
          AND, UH, THEY'RE GONNA GET AWARDED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          LIGHTING. 
          OKAY, SO WE'VE GOT THE HARLAN GENETIC CENTER, VICTOR PARK, WILSON PARK, VICTOR PARK, TENNIS COURTS, THE LIGHTING RETROFIT PROJECT, THE KAYAK LAUNCH, UM, AND WATER KIND OF ANALYSIS. 
          UM, SAFETY, ALL THAT GOOD STUFF. 
          RANGER VA PARK LIGHTING. 
          ARE WE MISSING SOMETHING? DIXIELAND DIXIELAND. 
          UM, BASKETBALL. 
          BASKETBALL. 
          AND ALSO THE, UH, DISCUS GOLF. 
          OH YEAH, WE SHOULD BE DONE. 
          WE, WHAT, WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THAT? LIKE THAT, THAT WAS A PROJECT FROM LAST YEAR, UM, ON THE DISC GOLF. 
          WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THAT, DANNY? WE ARE PENDING THE SIGNAGE, THE, THE CONCRETE PADS THAT'S ALREADY BEEN INSTALLED. 
          REDESIGNED. 
          SO WE THE SIGNAGE. 
          AND THEN WE NEED TO DO SOME, UH, DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, ALONG THE COURSE. 
          WERE WE GONNA ADD SOME TREES TOO? UH, YES WE ARE. 
          OH, THAT'S RIGHT. 
          WE ALSO HAVE A TREE. 
          THAT FOREST, FOREST TREE. 
          THAT'S PART OF THE, THE, THE, UH, NUMBER FOUR. 
          YES. 
          THE TEXAS A M COMMUNITY FOREST TREE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT WENT TO, UH, ROLANDO. 
          THE, THE, THE FOREST TREE, THE PLANT, THE TREE PLANTING. 
          IT'S ON THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I COULDN'T SEE BECAUSE OF COMMISSIONER BETIS. 
          HE 
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HASN'T DONE ENOUGH WALKING. 
          . 
          I'D LIKE TO THROW A VEST PART TO KNOCK THIS ONE OUT ALREADY. 
          GET IT OFF OUR PLATE COMPLETELY. 
          WHAT ELSE ARE YOU DOING OUT THERE, THERE? STATE SEARCHERS. 
          OH, A SECOND. 
          BASKETBALL COURT. 
          A SPLASH PAD, A DOG PARK, AND A BUTTERFLY GARDEN. 
          AND A TREES. 
          WHOA. 
          YEAH. 
          WHOA. 
          IS THAT REAL? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA RE-CIRCLE BACK TO OUR PARKS. 
          UM, I THINK THOSE ARE GREAT IDEAS AND I THINK I'VE BEEN A BIG HUGE SUPPORTER OF VESTO PARK. 
          I THINK IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL. 
          YOU'VE DONE AN AMAZING JOB. 
          UM, ERIC WILL SECOND THAT 'CAUSE THAT'S LIKE HIS NEIGHBORHOOD, YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I THINK IT, IT IS A COMPLETE, UM, CHANGE IN THE EXPERIENCE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          I THINK IT'S BEAUTIFUL. 
          BUT THE BIGGEST CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS THAT WHEN I GO TO OTHER PARKS, THAT THEY'RE NOT WHERE THEY NEED TO BE. 
          SO BEFORE WE INVEST MORE DOLLARS IN POCKET PARKS, UM, OR IN NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS, I KNOW THAT WE ALREADY HAVE STEWART PLACE KIND OF ON THE LIST. 
          LIKE WE NEED TO GO TO RAINVILLE PARK AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT PARK IS JUST AS BEAUTIFUL AS IT IS AT VESTAL. 
          WE NEED TO GO TO, UM, THAT, THOSE OTHER, WHAT IS THAT PARK OVER THERE BY LAA? UM, UH, YOUR VERE PARK. 
          WINDSOR PARK OR WINDSOR PARK? WINDOR PARK. 
          PARK. 
          WE NEED, WE DO WINDSOR PARK TOO. 
          WE NEED TO, I MEAN, THAT'S YOUR DISTRICT TOO. 
          I I'M NOT SAYING NOT YOUR DISTRICT. 
          WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT HUNTER, WE NEED, I WOULD LIKE, DANNY IS AN INVENTORY. 
          I'D LIKE TO SEE ALL THE PARKS IN THE CITY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          FOR BOTH OF YOU TO GO OUT AND DO AN INVENTORY AND TELL US THESE ARE THE PARKS THAT NEED UPDATED PLAYGROUND STRUCTURE AND IS THAT STILL WHAT IS NEEDED IN THAT COMMUNITY? AND I AGREE, UH, WITH YOU MAYOR. 
          AND, UH, AS FAR AS RANGER WHEEL PARK, THERE'S, UH, IT'S GOT A LOT OF POTENTIAL, BUT WE NEED TO GET, UH, THINGS, UH, YEAH, THEY GOT THE WALKING AREA. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S PARKS THAT I HAVE. 
          I MEAN, AND I, I, I PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T BEEN TO ALL THE PARKS, BUT WE HAVE MORE PARKS IN HARLINGEN PER CAPITA THAN I THINK ANY OTHER CITY IN THE RIO GRANDE VALLEY. 
          SO WE ARE DOING GOOD WHEN IT COMES TO PARKS. 
          I DO SEE THE DEFICIENCY IN, IN IN DISTRICT FIVE. 
          UM, BUT OVERALL WE HAVE QUITE A BIT. 
          BUT I WANT THEM, I WANT US TO BEAUTIFY ALL OF OUR PARKS BEFORE WE INVEST MORE IN PARKS. 
          AND, AND, AND ONLY BECAUSE THE EXPERIENCE IN ONE NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS TO BE THE SAME EXPERIENCE IN ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          SO HOW DO WE GET THERE? AND THEN ONCE WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED THAT, THEN LET'S HOP ONTO YOUR PARK AND YOUR PARK AND EVERYBODY ELSE'S, UM, AREA. 
          PENDLETON IS GONNA NEED A LOT OF LOVE. 
          WE'RE GONNA PUT ALL THIS MONEY INTO THE REC CENTER. 
          WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THOSE POOLS ARE UP TO, YOU KNOW, UP TO PAR. 
          THE TENNIS COURTS, I KNOW THAT THEY DO A LOT OF TOURNAMENTS OUT THERE, BUT I THINK THEY NEED LIKE, UM, LIKE, UH, , UM, DRESSING ROOM SPACE. 
          DON'T THEY LIKE THE ROOMS? LIKE THERE'S, THERE'S THINGS THAT CAN REALLY ELEVATE OUR OPPORTUNITIES FOR TURN, TURN TOURNAMENTS, WHICH I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN A BIG FAN OF . 
          SO THAT NEEDS TO BE THE, THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY FOR PARKS IS TO ENSURE THAT ALL THE PARKS AND RESTROOMS, I THINK THAT'S PART OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          UM, YES. 
          THE PARK PLAN IS THAT THE RESTROOMS ARE, SOME OF EM ARE JUST AWFUL. 
          LIKE, I WILL JUST GO TO A GAME AND I WILL JUST WAIT UNTIL I GET HOME. 
          YES. 
          TO GO TO THE RESTROOM. 
          UH, THERE'S, DIXIELAND PARK IS ONE OF 'EM. 
          THAT, THOSE ARE OLD, OLD RESTROOMS. THEY'RE ON A SEPTIC SYSTEM AND THEY NEED TO GET UPGRADED. 
          WASN'T THAT PART OF THE, THE, THE CDBG TO PUT 'EM TO CONNECT THEM SEPTIC? NOT THE, NOT THE BATHROOMS. NO. 
          OH, WAS IRRIGATION AT C IRRIGATION? YES. 
          FUNDING. 
          'CAUSE IT'S A QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          LIKE THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. 
          I'M SORRY, WHAT PARK DID YOU SAY? DIXIELAND PARK D DIXIELAND. 
          UM, I, I DON'T KNOW IF DIXIELAND WAS TAKEN OFF THE LIST BY HU WHERE SANDY, WHAT WAS, DID HUD TAKE DIXIELAND OFF OR WAS IT NO, IT WAS WILSON. 
          UH, WILSON WAS A, A FEW YEARS BACK BECAUSE THE DEFENSE , I BELIEVE IT WAS THE, THE, THE DISC OFF. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE, WE CAN PROBABLY WORK, DO SOME WORK WITH THE, UH, THE BATHROOMS, SIR. 
          THE BATHROOMS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          YEAH. 
          YES. 
          THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T DO ALL OF THEM WITH CITY BG, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY DO SOME OF, SOME OF THEM. 
          BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          IF WE'RE GONNA ALLOCATE FUNDING FOR ANYTHING ELSE, WHAT NEEDS TO BE TOWARDS THE PARKS THAT WE HAVE AND WE NEED AN INVENTORY, LIKE, I THINK JUST LIKE I SAID WITH DOWNTOWN COMMITTEE, WE NEED A SMALL LITTLE PARKS, UM, COMMITTEE TO BE WORKING WITH STAFF TO SEE WHERE THEY'RE AT AND THEN HAVING THE ENTIRE COMMISSION ADOPT WHATEVER THAT PLAN IS MOVING, MOVING FORWARD. 
          AND YOU GUYS DO ALL, YOU GUYS DOING A GREAT, A GREAT JOB. 
          , EVERYBODY LOOKS SO BUMED. 
          I'M LOOKING, UM, UM, EVERYBODY, ALL THE COMMISSIONERS DO A GREAT JOB IN IDENTIFYING WHAT'S GOING ON IN THEIR, IN THEIR DISTRICTS. 
          AND SO MAYBE THAT'S HOW WE DO IT. 
          LIKE, YOU COULD SEE WHAT, WHAT ARE THE PARKS THAT NEED IMPROVEMENTS IN YOUR DISTRICT? YOURS, YOURS AND YOURS. 
          AND THEN GETTING WITH DANNY, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, CHECK THOSE OFF OF THE, OFF OF THE LIST BECAUSE IT, WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT HARLINGEN BECOMES WHAT 
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IT IS THAT WE ENVISION WITH THIS PLAN AND TO MAKE IT A DESTINATION. 
          AND THE ONLY WAY FOR IT TO BE A DESTINATION IS FOR IT TO HAVE, UM, AREAS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY WHERE THERE ARE GREEN SPACES THAT ARE INVITING. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S A SINGLE PARK THAT I CAN GO TO THAT I FEEL THAT THE RESTROOMS ARE WHERE THEY NEED TO BE. 
          I, UNLESS YOU CAN POINT ME TO ONE. 
          NO, I AGREE. 
          YEAH. 
          WE, THEY, WE NEED TO FIX IT, IF I MAY, DANNY, UM, WHICH ARE THE PARKS THAT WE CAN HAVE, UM, TOURNAMENTS, WHETHER IT'S SOCCER OR BASEBALL, LITTLE TOURNAMENTS. 
          WE'RE IN THE CENTER OF THE VALLEY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET, THOSE ARE THE RESTROOMS WE NEED TO TACKLE FIRST. 
          IF, AND THEN AS WE START GETTING THOSE, EVERYBODY TO COME IN AND INVEST MONEY INTO THE CITY, WHETHER THEY'RE BUYING, WHETHER THEY'RE GONNA SPEND THE NIGHT HERE AND SO ON DOWN THE LINE, OR THEY'RE GONNA DO SOME SHOPPING, EXPAND. 
          I AGREE WITH FRANK. 
          WE SHOULD PRIORITIZE THOSE PARKS THAT, THAT HAVE POTENTIAL TO HAVE TOURNAMENTS LIKE THE SPORTS COMP, UH, LIKE THE SOCCER COMPLEX, UM, VICTOR PARK, UM, THE WILSON SPORTS COMPLEX. 
          AND EVEN DIXIE NOW THAT WE ARE GONNA HAVE THE UPDATES TO THE, UM, DISCUS GOLF. 
          THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT ALL THOSE, UM, PLAYERS REACHED OUT TO ME. 
          'CAUSE THEY WANTED, WANTED EXACTLY. 
          YES. 
          SO THOSE THAT HAVE THAT INDIRECT ECONOMIC BENEFIT, I THINK WE SHOULD PRIOR PRIORITIZE THOSE BECAUSE YEAH, I AGREE. 
          NO, AND I AGREE A HUNDRED PERCENT THAT WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO WE CAN BRING ALL THAT, THAT THAT'S REVENUE THAT CAN COME INTO THE BACK TO THE CITY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO I DO AGREE A HUNDRED PERCENT WITH THAT. 
          AND, AND BACK TO COMMISSIONER'S POINT IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS OUR ROI ON THESE INVESTMENTS WHEN IT COMES TO TOURNAMENTS? THERE ARE, I KNOW I WAS IN JUST IN ANOTHER COMMUNITY JUST YESTERDAY AND THEY HAVE TOURNAMENTS THERE AND, AND THERE. 
          THAT'S HOW, I MEAN, IT'S A SMALL COMMUNITY WITH A $20,000, 20,000 POPULATION OF PEOPLE, YET THEY'RE, THEY BRING IN TOURNAMENTS AND THEIR HOTELS ARE BOOKED AND EVERYTHING. 
          AND IT'S ALL BECAUSE OF THIS LIKE SMALL LITTLE, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, TOURNAMENT FIELDS THAT THEY HAVE INVESTED MONEY IN. 
          YES. 
          AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO HERE. 
          AND I KNOW THAT THE PARENTS HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR, FOR THAT. 
          UM, IN TERMS OF SOCCER TOO, BASEBALL AND EVEN THE, THE FOOTBALL, RIGHT. 
          THE FLAG FOOTBALL IS A, IS A BIG DRAW TOO. 
          SO WORKING ON THOSE, UM, AREAS TO REALLY ENTICE PEOPLE TO MAKE HARLINGEN, LIKE COMMISSIONER SAYS, AS A CENTRAL LOCATION FOR THESE TOURNAMENTS. 
          I KNOW THAT I ASKED JAVI, AND YOU AND I DID, UM, LIKE THREE YEARS AGO MENDEZ TO, TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO SEE IF WE COULD DO MURALS ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE RESTROOMS. AND THAT NEVER CAME TO FRUITION, BUT I THINK THAT'S A GOOD WAY FOR US TO COLLABORATE WITH THE DISTRICT TO GET THAT DONE. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          YEAH. 
          WE CAN REACH OUT TO THEIR ART CLASSES AND, UH, HAVE THEM SHOWCASE THEIR ART ON, ON, ON, ON OUR RESTROOMS, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM . 
          MAYOR, COMMISSIONER PERES, I MET WITH DR. GONZALEZ AT THE TIME AND THAT STARTED TO GET OFF THE GROUND AND THEN HE LEFT. 
          AND SO I THINK THAT KIND OF, YEAH. 
          SO YOU NEED TO RESTART THAT. 
          YEAH, WE NEED TO RESTART THAT. 
          IT'S JUST A WAY TO BRING THE COMMUNITY TO GET INVOLVED IN THE, IN THE PROJECT. 
          UM, AND EACH AREA, LIKE, YOU KNOW, UM, I KNOW THAT YOU'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO A LOT OF THE NATIVE PLANTS AND, UM, TRYING TO THE BUTTERFLY GARDENS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO MAYBE THE DIS DISTRICT TOO. 
          THAT'S THE THEME OF THE, THE RESTROOMS AND THE MURALS MORE PEACE AND SERENITY AND ALL THAT GREAT STUFF. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THEN, UM, WHERE THEY'VE GOT THE TOURNAMENTS, MAYBE IT'S THE LOGOS OR THE, YOU KNOW, THE MASCOTS OF THE SCHOOLS OR WE JUST, THERE'S GOTTA BE A WAY FOR US TO HAVE MORE OF AN IDENTITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY. 
          MARY, DO, I MAY, UM, I KNOW PELETON PARK IS, THE RECREATION CENTER IS ONE OF THE MAIN FOCUS, RIGHT? WELL I THINK GABE, THIS IS THE TIME THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE CHAMPIONSHIP COURT FOR, OR TENNIS COURTS THERE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, RAMIRO HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF RECRUITING THOSE TOURNAMENTS. 
          I THINK IF WE HAD A CHAMPIONSHIP COURT OR TWO, I THINK HE WOULD'VE TRIED BIGGER TOURNAMENTS. 
          BEING THERE AT TON PARK GET CENTRALIZED. 
          I THINK THIS IS THE IDEAL TIME TO START LOOKING INTO DOING THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          I ALREADY TALKED TO HIM ABOUT THAT AND I ASKED HIM TO GET ME SOME SORT OF DESIGN FOR THAT, BECAUSE I WANT TO ASK THE FOUR B, BUT I GOTTA GET COMMISSIONS APPROVAL FOR US TO DO THAT. 
          UH, I, I'D NEVER REALLY BEEN OUT THERE UNTIL LAST SUNDAY. 
          I WENT TO GO PICK UP MY SON AND HE, 'CAUSE HE WAS PLAYING TENNIS AND I WAS, AND I, IT JUST BY COINCIDENCE, I RAN INTO RAM RIGHT WHEN HE WAS COMING OUT AND THEN HE GAVE ME LIKE A LITTLE QUICK MINI TOUR AND IT WAS IMPRESSIVE. 
          IT WAS IMPRESSIVE OUT. 
          I REALLY LIKE WHAT THEY HAVE OUT THERE. 
          HE, HE TAKES PRIDE IN WHAT HE DOES THERE. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER WHEN TRGV WAS STILL IN THE WHACK, UH, WE HAD A TOURNAMENT OUT THERE FOR ALL THE TEAMS THAT ARE IN THAT LEAGUE. 
          AND ESPN COVERED IT FROM, FROM THE HEB TENNIS CENTER. 
          SO IT'S DONE REALLY WELL. 
          AND I THINK WE JUST NEED TO CONTINUE THE MOMENTUM. 
          AND I THINK WITH THAT, WITH THAT CHAMPIONSHIP, UH, COURT, BUT IT JUST CAN'T BE THE COURT. 
          IT'S GOTTA BE THE BLEACHERS, THE CAN. 
          IT'S GOTTA BE SEATED. 
          YES. 
          SEATED FOR, FOR THE FOLKS WHO WANNA BE THERE TO WATCH IT. 
          YEAH. 
          'CAUSE I THINK PENDLETON HAS BIG POTENTIAL. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          IT CERTAINLY DOES. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          ABOUT SIX WEEKS AGO, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. 
          NO, GO AHEAD. 
          UH, ABOUT SIX WEEKS AGO THEY HAD A TOURNAMENT, UH, 
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A-U-T-R-G-V AND THEY PLAYED ARKANSAS AND THEY HAD, UM, FIRST OF ALL, THEY HAD A, A CLINIC, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THEY HAD ONE WHERE THEY HAD A CLINIC FOR, UM, I THINK IT WAS EIGHTH GRADERS FROM LIKE FIVE TO THREE TO FIVE. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          DENNY, YES. 
          ON A SATURDAY OR, AND THEN THEY HAD, THEY PLAYED ARKANSAS AND THEY PLAYED THE, THE TOURNAMENT RIGHT AFTER THE TOURNAMENT THE NEXT DAY. 
          AND IT WAS REALLY, REALLY GOOD. 
          UM, BUT WE, THERE WAS PEOPLE INVOLVED, BUT AGAIN, THE, THE SEATING COULD HAVE BEEN MORE. 
          AND SO IT WAS REALLY GOOD TO, TO TALK TO THE COACHES AND, UM, AND TO TALK TO, TO U-T-R-G-V PERSONNEL. 
          UM, BUT, UM, WE, WE NEED TO, NEED TO HAVE MORE OF IT. 
          AND SO WE COULD REALLY HELP TO, TO HELP U-T-R-G-V AND EVERYBODY ELSE TO HAVE, HAVE MORE OF IT THERE AT PELETON PARK. 
          YES. 
          YOU KNOW, ANOTHER, SO I KEEP GOING BACK TO VESTO, SO JUST YES, I AGREE. 
          BUT LET BEFORE WE, UM, WRAP, WRAP THIS ONE UP, UM, I WANNA JUST SAY, 'CAUSE I REMEMBER YOU DID A GREAT JOB OF PUTTING TOGETHER, UM, THE MEETING WHEN THE GUY CAME DOWN ON HOW WE COULD UTILIZE OUR HOT TALKS, UM, FUNDS AND STUFF, AND THEN MAYBE CBB CAN HELP WITH THE CHAMPION COURT, ISN'T IT? BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE IT. 
          IT'S ESTABLISHED. 
          REMEMBER WE WERE LOOKING AT HOW WE COULD GET THAT DONE. 
          WE ALREADY HOST GAMES, WE ALREADY HOST GAMES. 
          AND SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CBB CAN HELP US AND NOT JUST WITH, UM, WITH THE COURT, BUT ALSO PROMOTION, UM, AND MAKING THIS MORE OF A TOURIST ATTRACTION. 
          UM, SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING YOU WANNA LOOK AT TO SEE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, WE CAN USE THOSE FUNDS, UM, FOR THE POTENTIAL OF BRINGING IN MORE, MORE TOURNAMENTS. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S A WAY TO CREATE THE COURT THAT YOU WANT. 
          SO IT DOESN'T COME OUT OF OUR, UM, OUR, OUR, OUR, OUR GENERAL FUND DOLLARS. 
          THE, THE, THE PARK STAFF HAS DONE AN AMAZING JOB THERE. 
          THEY REDID THE, THE DOCTOR. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THEY, UH, ADDED THAT, UH, FOUNTAIN. 
          I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO REDO THE TRAIL THERE, BUT THIS IS THE TIME TO START PLANNING MM-HMM . 
          BUT, AND THAT RECREATION CENTER GETS HERE. 
          IT'S ALREADY, YEAH. 
          I THINK IT'S GONNA, IT'S, I MEAN THAT'S WHY I THINK THE LOCATION IS IMPORTANT AND YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF, UM, I SAW THE, THE PIER AND ALL THE CHANGE. 
          I MEAN, IT'S LOOKING NICE OVER THERE. 
          SO WE REALLY NEED TO, UM, FOCUS ON, ON, ON ENSURING THAT WE'RE UTILIZING THE RIGHT BUCKETS OF MONEY, UH, TO IMPROVE IT AND MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, TO ITS POTENTIAL. 
          RIGHT. 
          SORRY, GO AHEAD. 
          ON VESSEL, I'VE BEEN FINDING PARTNERSHIPS TO DO THE IMPROVEMENT, SO I DON'T WANNA BE BLOCKED ON LIKE THE CITY'S PORTION OF IT. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          YEAH. 
          IF WE CAN DO IT ON THE SHORT TERM. 
          YOU LIKE THE DOG PARK? I GOT A PARTNERSHIP ON THAT. 
          THE BIRDING, UH, THE BIRDING, UH, THE BUTTERFLY AND BIRDING PORTION. 
          WE JUST HAD A MEETING, WE GOT A PARTNERSHIP WITH THAT. 
          AND SO THEN WE GOT THE TREES, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE SPEARHEADED. 
          WE GOT A PARTNERSHIP WITH THAT. 
          AND SO I'LL BE COMING TO THE COMMISSION AND I DON'T WANT IT TO BE, I'D LIKE US TO KEEP THIS ON THE SHORT TERM ONE. 
          SO I CAN SEE THAT. 
          LET'S SAY ANY PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS LIKE THE PARKING LOT, WE CAN MAKE THAT A MIDTERM. 
          THE SPLASH PAD, WE CAN PUT THAT IN MIDTERM. 
          AND THEN THE CONCESSION STANDS, WE CAN PUT THAT AS MIDTERM. 
          BUT ON THESE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'RE ALREADY MOVING FORWARD ON, I DON'T WANT BLOCKED. 
          WHAT DOES IT MEAN WHEN YOU SAY PARTNERSHIPS? I'M WORKING WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO ASSIST WITH THE FUNDING FOR IT. 
          RIGHT? SO THINK OF IT LIKE GRANTS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BUT WHAT ABOUT MANPOWER? WE WOULD BE PUTTING IN THE MANPOWER. 
          THAT'S THE THING. 
          BUT THAT'S THE POINT, BECAUSE YOU'D BE TAKING MANPOWER FROM OTHER PROJECTS FOR YEARS. 
          AND DON'T GET ME WRONG, YOU'VE DONE AN AMAZING JOB WITH VEST. 
          BUT AT THE SAME TIME, MY, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT WE NEED MORE, UM, POCKET PARKS. 
          SO THEN THE, THE MANPOWER THAT I WOULD HAVE BE ABLE TO USE FOR MY STEWARD PLACE PARK, UH, POCKET PARK, OR EVEN THE ONE THAT I'M, I'VE BEEN TALKING TO JUAN ABOUT, ABOUT WHERE WE JUST BROKE GROUND. 
          DO LIKE MAYBE A LITTLE DOG PARK OR LITTLE FIELD, WHATEVER. 
          YOU'RE TAKING THAT AWAY FROM VESSEL PARK, WHICH VESSEL PARK'S ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED. 
          YOU'VE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB THERE, BUT NOW YOU'RE TAKING AWAY FROM SOME OTHER NEEDS SO I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE GETTING PARTNERSHIPS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU HAVE TO SPREAD THE LOVE AROUND FOR PENDLETON, FOR ALL THE OTHER PARKS. 
          I AGREE WITH THAT. 
          BUT I DON'T WANNA LEAVE MONEY ON THE TABLE. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME TO DO, IS IF I'M SAYING, IF I CAN GET AN ORGANIZATION TO PAY FOR ALL THE MATERIAL AND WE JUST PUT IN BY DOING THE, THE MANUAL LABOR, WHICH THESE ARE SMALL PROJECTS, SO IT'S NOT LIKE I'M GONNA KEEP 'EM FOR TWO TO THREE, TO FIVE TO WEEKS. 
          RIGHT. 
          IF I GET 'EM FOR ONE WEEK, WE CAN KNOCK IT ALL OUT. 
          YOU CAN ALWAYS PUSH IT OVER THERE TO THE STEWART PLACE PARK THE PARTNERSHIPS. 
          YOU CAN GET YOUR OWN PARTNERSHIPS. 
          EXACTLY. 
          NOT MY PARTNERSHIPS. 
          SO THEY GET THE PARTNERSHIPS FOR THE WHOLE THING AND THEN LEAVE THE LABOR FOR THE OTHER PARKS. 
          SO, SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          I JUST, I THINK THAT I LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE AND THEY WANT TO SEE IMPROVEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          AND SO MAYBE THE ANSWER IS, AND I DON'T KNOW 'CAUSE THIS IS A GABE'S A GABE QUESTION. 
          MAYBE WE NEED MORE PERSONNEL, MAYBE WE NEED MORE PARKS, BUT WE ONLY HAVE A, A FINITE OF RESOURCES. 
          UM, THEY CAN ONLY WORK AS SO MANY HOURS A DAY AND I SEE THEM WORKING HARD. 
          I, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THEY CAN, THEY CAN ONLY DO AS MUCH WORK AS IT'S PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE WITHIN AN EIGHT HOUR DAY. 
          AND SO DO WE NEED MORE PARKS PERSONNEL TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT? BECAUSE I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK THAT, YES, VESTO 
          [02:20:01]
PARK IS IMPORTANT, BUT I WANT THAT, I WANT OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT TO ENSURE THAT THE PARKS ACROSS THE COMMUNITY ARE FIRST UP TO PAR BEFORE THEY'RE DOING ADDITIONAL WORK, EVEN IF THERE'S MONEY AND GRANT FUNDING. 
          'CAUSE WE'VE GOT GRANT FUNDS, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE CONTRACTING OUT ALL THE WORK, RIGHT. 
          SO VICTOR PARK IS GONNA, IS GONNA GET A WHOLE REDO, BUT OUR STAFF'S NOT GONNA DO IT. 
          WELL, A ROYAL PARK, SAME THING. 
          SO THAT'S THE KIND OF MONEY THAT YOU GO OUT THERE AND WE GET THAT. 
          AND, AND, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT OUR GUYS ARE WORKING ON. 
          SO IT'S DIFFERENT WHEN WE'VE GOT THESE PARTNERSHIPS, BUT THE GUYS STILL HAVE TO DO THE WORK. 
          SO IT'S EITHER WE PUT IT ON HOLD OR WE GET MORE PEOPLE. 
          SO IN THAT CASE WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          PEOPLE. 
          UM, THIS BUDGET PROCESS. 
          'CAUSE EVERYBODY'S ASKED FOR MORE PEOPLE AND SO IT'S GONNA BE A INTERESTING BUDGET CYCLE. 
          THIS, THIS YEAR. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, WE'LL BE COMING UNTIL I THINK ROBERT, WE'RE GONNA START IN JULY, AUGUST, I MEAN JUNE, JULY. 
          SO THAT'S COMING UP PRETTY SOON. 
          JULY, AUGUST. 
          SO EVERY LINE ITEM ON THE BUDGET THIS YEAR NEEDS TO BE CONNECTED TO OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT. 
          SO, UM, I THINK THAT THESE WORKSHOPS AND THESE, UM, GOALS NEED TO BE TIED INTO THAT PLAN, WHICH IS ALSO, WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT A SHORT TERM. 
          THEN WE HAVE TO FIND OUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET THAT DONE AND ALSO GET EVERYTHING ELSE DID. 
          SO THAT'S, UH, WE JUST CAN'T, WE CAN'T JUSTIFY, UM, DOING THE WORK IN ONE AREA OF TOWN AND NOT, AND NOT IN THE OTHERS. 
          BUT IF WE CAN DO THEM SIMULTANEOUSLY, I THINK THAT THAT'S GREAT. 
          BUT IS THAT FEASIBLE? MM-HMM . 
          THAT'S A, THAT'S A DENNY THAT QUESTION WITH YOUR, YOU KNOW, I, I, I WANT THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY OF PARKS TO BE IS TO TAKE CARE OF THE PARKS. 
          THAT'S THEIR JOB. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          BUT WE NEED TO GET PERSONNEL AT THE TIMES, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT HAPPENING AND WE NEED TO GIVE AND WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU MORE WORK. 
          EXACTLY. 
          HOW IS THAT GONNA, HOW ARE WE GOING ACCOMPLISH THAT? I'M ALREADY ON BOARD WITH GETTING THE MORE STAFF. 
          AND SO WHEN I'M THINKING SHORT TERM, IT'S ALREADY WITH THEM HAVING THE STAFF. 
          SO THEY CAN BE WORKING ON PROJECTS IN EVERY DISTRICT. 
          BUT TO GABE'S POINT, WE NEED MORE PARK STAFF. 
          WE NEED MORE DRAINAGE STAFF. 
          LIKE WHAT'S REALISTIC? LIKE THESE, THESE ARE OUR GOALS, OUR SHORT TERM GOALS. 
          WHAT CAN WE REALISTICALLY GET DONE? I THINK THAT THE CITIZENS OF HARLINGEN DESERVE TO HAVE THE PARK THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE TO, TO BE BEAUTIFUL. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S IT. 
          THAT'S NUMBER, NOT NUMBER, NUMBER ONE. 
          EVERYTHING THAT'S GRANT FUNDED AND WE'RE GONNA CONTRACT OUT, THAT'S ENGINEERING, THAT'S PLANNING, THAT'S GETTING, MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE AGGRESSIVE WITH OUR DEADLINES, UM, AND MAKING SURE THAT ENGINEERING IS STAFFED. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE'VE BEEN HAVING SOME ISSUES WITH, IN, IN THAT DEPARTMENT. 
          WHERE IS, WHERE'S ENGINEERING? ALBERTO IS NOT HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S A BIG, UM, THAT'S A BIG COMPONENT TO MM-HMM . 
          EXECUTING ON THOSE. 
          ON THOSE GRANTS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO IT TOLD YOU ABOUT THE MEETING WE HAD WITH TEXT YESTERDAY. 
          SO THAT'S, SO YOU SEE, I DON'T WANT THOSE CALLS. 
          I WANT US TO BE YEAH. 
          ON I, AND I GOT BETTER THINGS 'CAUSE I COULD BE DOING RIGHT. 
          RATHER THAN SO, SO, SO TO ME THAT IS, AND, AND, AND IN SPEAKING WITH ANNA, I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT WE, THAT, THAT WE'RE GETTING THESE FUNDS AND THAT WE ARE AGGRESSIVELY MOVING ON THEM. 
          THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE'RE WAITING THIS LONG ON VICTOR PARK. 
          THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE. 
          THAT I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE AT THE STAGE THAT WE ARE IN RIGHT NOW. 
          SO WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON THOSE. 
          BUT THOSE DON'T TAKE PARK, UM, PERSONNEL. 
          THOSE ARE OTHER DEPARTMENTS. 
          SO AT THIS POINT WE'RE FOCUSING ON PARKS. 
          SO IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE A SHORT TERM GOAL, WE'RE GONNA BE MARRIED TO IT. 
          SO IF WE'RE GONNA ADD VEST, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GONNA GET THAT DONE. 
          AND THESE OTHER PRIORITIES TOO. 
          HOW ARE WE DOING THAT, DANIEL? ADDING MORE STAFF. 
          THAT'S THE WAY WE GET IT DONE. 
          YOU WANNA TELL 'EM HOW MANY STAFF YOU WANT?  DON'T SHOW. 
          YOU GOTTA MAKE THE ASSESSMENT FOR RIGHT. 
          YOU, YOU, YOU COME IN WITH A 10 TO 12 TO 14. 
          HONESTLY, THAT'S NOT ENOUGH. 
          I TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, RIGHT OFF THE BAT. 
          I AGREE THAT'S NOT ENOUGH. 
          BUT THEN AGAIN, WE NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER WORKSHOP REGARDING DRAINAGE BECAUSE IF WE DON'T ADDRESS DRAINAGE, WHO'S GONNA GO TO FLOOD PARKS? CORRECT. 
          SO, YEAH. 
          SO, SO, SO MY PRIORITY, AND I THINK WE ALREADY SAID OUR PRIORITY IS THE COMMISSION WAS DRAINAGE. 
          SO, SO IF WE'RE GONNA ADD PERSONNEL, WE NEED TO HAVE SUFFICIENT PERSONNEL AND DRAINAGE. 
          AND THEN FROM THERE WE NEED TO HAVE SUFFICIENT PERSONNEL IN PARKS. 
          BUT IT'S DRAINAGE THEN PARKS. 
          SO ARE WE GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO, TO DO THAT? AND WE KNOW THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL GONNA 
          [02:25:01]
DE DEPEND ON HOW THIS COMMISSION WORKS TOGETHER IN PUTTING THAT BUDGET TOGETHER AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE, UM, A PROPERTY TAX RATE THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO FUND THE BUDGET THAT WE WANT AND THE WORK THAT WE WANT. 
          AND, AND THAT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE. 
          AND JUST AS AN FYI, UH, AS OF TODAY, OUR SALES TAX REVENUES ARE A MILLION DOLLARS OVER LAST YEAR'S. 
          BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME RECURRING EXPENSES, UH, FROM THE FIRE CBA THAT ARE GONNA COME UP THIS YEAR. 
          THEN WE'RE ALSO, AND I KNOW THIS IS NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT IT'S JUST AN FYI AND THEN THE, THE POLICE CBA IS COMING UP THIS YEAR AGAIN FOR RENEWAL AGAIN FOR THREE YEARS. 
          SO, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A COMPLETE RECONSTRUCTION OF FIRE STATION NUMBER ONE. 
          I THINK IT'S TIME. 
          I THINK IT'S NEEDED. 
          THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THIS BUDGET AND IN, BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, WE NEED TO FIX THE DRAINAGE PROBLEM SO IT GOES BACK. 
          SO THOSE ARE OTHER BIG, BIG EXPENSES. 
          I THINK THAT FIRE STATION'S GONNA HAVE TO BE RELOCATED BECAUSE IT KEEPS FLOODING EVERY TIME. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S THE SOLUTION I'M LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW. 
          WE NEED TO GET IT. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S, AND THAT'S PART OF, UM, OUR, OUR, OUR BUDGET. 
          AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN HELP US WITH. 
          IT'S A HISTORICAL SITE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WE'RE, WE HAVE A, UH, WE HAVE TWO BIG DRAINAGE PLANS FOR THAT AREA. 
          WE HAVE THE JEFFERSON AVENUE STORMWATER SYSTEM AND UH, DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT. 
          AND THEN WE WILL HAVE COMMERCE COMING ONLINE, HOPEFULLY WITH US 25 MILLION THAT WE CAN START. 
          UH, WHICH I MEAN, I MEAN TO ASK THAT QUESTION, WHICH SIDE OF COMMERCE ARE WE STARTING ON THE SOUTH SIDE, RIGHT? THAT'S THE, WHICH IS BETTER BECAUSE THE WATER FLOWS, OUR WATER ON COMMERCE FLOWS TO THE ROYALS. 
          SO YOU WANNA START, TYPICALLY I, OSCAR AND I DISAGREE ON, ON POINT, THANK YOU. 
          BUT WE NEED TO START ON THE, THE SOUTH SIDE. 
          YOU START DOWN, YOU TYPICALLY START DOWNSTREAM, RIGHT? OSCAR LIKES TO START UPSTREAM. 
          A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE LIKE TO START DOWNSTREAM. 
          EITHER WAY, ONCE WE DO THAT, THAT WILL ALLEVIATE A LOT OF THE FLOODING ON, UH, FIRE STATION ONE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN THE, THE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE JUST FOLLOWING THE EXPERT'S PLAN. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE NEED TO DO THE DRAINAGE PROJECT AND WE NEED TO RECONSTRUCT, UM, THEY ARE NOT IN, UH, WHAT, WHAT'S HAPPENING IN, IN, IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW AND IN THAT STATION IS NOT ACCEPTABLE FOR THOSE FIREFIGHTERS THAT ARE THERE. 
          SO THAT NEEDS TO BE A PRIORITY. 
          SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEAUTIFYING PROJECTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WE ALSO NEED TO THINK ABOUT PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS ARE ABLE TO DO THEIR JOB. 
          SO ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT WE HAVE, WE'RE WE, WE GOTTA LOOK AT THIS COMPREHENSIVELY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF THOSE THINGS. 
          SO IF THAT MEANS FOCUSING ON THAT DRAINAGE PROJECT, WHICH IS IMPORTANT, UM, THEN WE NEED TO LOOK AT ARE WE GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH STAFF OR ARE WE GOING TO START CONTRACTING OUT THINGS OR ARE WE GONNA CREATE, WE'RE DOING THAT A NEW DRAINAGE CREW IN, IN MY MIND, COMMERCE HAS TO BE DONE, UH, EXTERNALLY. 
          THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN DO IT. 
          ANNOUNCED. 
          I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE, THE STAFF. 
          SO THAT ONE'S DONE, UH, THAT WILL ALLEVIATE FLOODING. 
          BUT I KNOW THE, THE FIRE CHIEF HAS SAID THAT, THAT YOU WOULD JUST WANT A WHOLE NEW STATION FOR STATION ONE. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT THAT COULD BE A MUSEUM AND THAT COULD BE A YEAH, IT'S HISTORICAL. 
          AGREED. 
          NO, I AGREE WITH THAT. 
          IF YOU WANT US TO LOOK AT THAT. 
          UH, I REMEMBER MY UNCLE SERVED THERE BACK IN, YOU KNOW, SO LONG. 
          I WOULDN'T, I'D HATE FOR IT TO JUST LIKE, UM, NOT BE PART OF HAREN ENGINE'S STORY, ARLINGTON'S HISTORY AND AND TO FINISH COMMERCE, WE NEED BETWEEN 60 TO 80 MILLION. 
          CORRECT. 
          RIGHT. 
          TO COMPLETELY DO IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO, AND THEN WITH US GETTING WEST STREET ON BOARD, THAT'S A PRIORITY FOR ME AS WELL. 
          DID YOU, I HAD A QUESTION ON THE COMMERCE STREET WHEN YOU HAD YOUR, BECAUSE I WASN'T HERE OBVIOUSLY FOR THE TOWN HALL, BUT DID YOU DISCUSS ABOUT WHAT THE, 'CAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE, THE PUBLIC ARE CONFUSED ABOUT THE COMMERCE. 
          YEAH, BECAUSE I JUST SAW A POST AND IT'S LIKE, THIS IS WHAT WE WERE PROMISED, YOU KNOW, ON SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          AND THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS JUST THE, THE DESIGN AND THEN THEY'RE EXPECTING MORE AND THEN THEY SEE THE, THE STRESS THAT YOU'RE DOING RIGHT NOW AND THEY'RE THINKING IT'S GONNA BE THE WHOLE THING. 
          AND I SEE ALL THESE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CIRCULAR BY, SO DID YOU TALK ABOUT THAT IN YOUR TOWN HALL? YEAH. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          I TALKED ABOUT IT THERE. 
          AND THEN EVEN IN THE COMMENTS OF THAT POST, I LITERALLY SAID, HEY, I JUST GAVE YOU GUYS AN UPDATE ON THIS A MONTH AGO. 
          'CAUSE ONE LADY SAID, WE JUST GOT AN UPDATE. 
          THIS IS JUST, UH, LIKE A PART-TIME THING, OR NOT A PART-TIME, BUT A, A TEMPORARY FIX. 
          SO PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF IT WHEN YOU READ THE COMMENTS. 
          BUT I CAN'T, IT'S HARD. 
          AND I'M NOT GONNA SPEND MY TIME, UH, FIGHTING DIGITAL, WHATEVER THAT IS. 
          I GONNA GO THERE. 
          YEAH, I THINK YOU DID. 
          YOU DID A GOOD JOB. 
          WHEN WE WERE, UM, PRIORITIZING THE STREETS AND EVERYBODY KIND OF ADVOCATED FOR THEIR DISTRICTS, THAT'S WHEN WE ADDED COMMERCE AND WE TALKED ABOUT HOW LONG IT WAS GONNA TAKE TO BE ABLE TO DO THE PLAN AND HOW IT WAS PLANNED AND DESIGNED. 
          AND THEN CONSTRUCTION IS GONNA COME MUCH LATER AND ALL OF THE MONEY AND THAT THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE JUST, UM, UH, SPOT, SPOT REPAIRS. 
          AND SO I THINK THAT THE INFORMATION IS OUT THERE, BUT YEAH, PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO, UM, UNDERSTAND. 
          BUT IT WOULDN'T HURT TO JUST SHARE IT AGAIN OR MORE WIDELY WHATEVER, BECAUSE YOU HAD ALREADY DONE IT BEFORE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          JUST RE YOU KNOW, SHARING THE SAME INFORMATION OR MAYBE HAVE MEDIA DO LIKE A LITTLE VIDEO. 
          KINDA LIKE THE VIDEO THAT I, THEY 
          [02:30:01]
DID A GREAT VIDEO. 
          YEAH. 
          THE VIDEO THAT EDGAR DID THAT WAS GOOD. 
          BUT LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE EDUCATIONAL ONE JUST SO THEY CAN UNDERSTAND LIKE WHAT THE PROCESS. 
          I CAN MEET WITH THEM. 
          WE CAN DO LIKE AN INTERVIEW AND DO THAT WHOLE STUFF. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'RE MISSING, I'D JUST LIKE TO GO BACK REALLY QUICK 'CAUSE I CAN SEE IT. 
          WE ARE GONNA PUT SHORT TERM THE KAYAK LAUNCH PROJECT AND WE CAN PUT THAT ON SHORT TERM YEAH. 
          TO LOOK AT BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA COMPLETE THE PLANNING PART. 
          OKAY. 
          PLANNING PART. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT CONSTRUCTION, I THINK IT WAS MIDTERM. 
          IT'S MIDTERM. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES, CORRECT. 
          AND THEN ON THE PARKS, 'CAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT VETO, THE, WE ARE GOING TO GO BACK TO, WE ARE GOING BACK TO BECAUSE OF THE QUALITY VERSUS THE QUANTITY AND THE, THE SPONSORSHIPS THAT YOU WANTED. 
          BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE PERSONNEL FOR IT. 
          IF NOT, WE'D ALL GO BACK TO GET OUR OWN SPONSORSHIPS. 
          UM, WE ARE NOT GONNA DO THAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE PERSONNEL. 
          IS THAT WHAT WE DISCUSSED? I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP IT ON THE SHORT TERM. 
          AND WE KEEP IT CONTINGENT ON FUNDING FOR STAFF BECAUSE YOU WANT TO MOVE ON VEST AND YOU DON'T WANT IT BLOCKED. 
          I WOULD JUST DON'T WANNA LOSE THE MONEY. 
          I WOULD DISAGREE WITH THAT AND I WOULD KEEP IT MIDTERM. 
          THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT I HEARD. 
          WE HEARD TWO DIFFERENT. 
          YEAH, BECAUSE I, I MEAN, DON'T GET ME WRONG VESSELS LIKE I SAID IT BEFORE, VESSELS DOING GREAT, BUT THE OTHER PARKS NEED LOVE TOO. 
          AND WHEN IT BOILS DOWN TO WE'RE ALL GETTING FROM THE SAME POT. 
          SO I THINK, AND PLUS ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANT, IBLE PARK'S NOT REALLY MENTIONED TOO MUCH. 
          AND, AND, UM, MY STUFF, I'M, AGAIN, I'M JUST PUSHING MY STUFF AGAIN BECAUSE IT IS, IT IS. 
          THE STEWART PLACE IS MENTIONED AND LIKE, I'VE BEEN TALKING TO JUAN. 
          I DO WANT TO DO, 'CAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS LOOKING AT THE, AT THE PLAN IS THAT THEY'RE SAYING THAT WE NEED PARKS ON THE WEST SIDE AND UM, THE LAND'S GONNA GET MORE EXPENSIVE. 
          AND THEN I'M LOOKING AT GABE 'CAUSE I WANT 'EM TO BUY ALL THIS LAND OVER THERE ON THE WEST SIDE. 
          BUT I, I KNOW THAT'S NOT, UM, FEASIBLE RIGHT NOW. 
          SO WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS LIKE THE AREA THAT'S OVER THERE THAT WE BROKE AROUND IN, LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, I WOULD LIKE TO TURN THAT INTO JUST LIKE A LITTLE TEMPORARY PARK, MAYBE A TRAIL. 
          YOU EVEN GAVE ME THE IDEAS FOR THAT, FOR LIKE THE LITTLE TRAIL AROUND IT. 
          OR MAYBE, YOU KNOW, LIKE A LITTLE DOG PARK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          JUST SO WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING ON THE WEST SIDE 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. 
          AND THEN LIKE ON YOUR DISTRICT, YOUR AREA, YOU'VE DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB THERE AT, AT, UM, AT VEST PARK. 
          SO THOSE PEOPLE ALL AROUND THE SAVA AREA, I KNOW THEY LOVE YOU BECAUSE OF THE STUFF THAT YOU'VE DONE. 
          I EVEN HAVE ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS WHO ACTUALLY, PERFECT EXAMPLE, ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS, UM, THAT LIVES IN MY AREA GOES TO VEST PARK. 
          AND THAT'S WHEN I SEND YOU THAT MESSAGE ABOUT THE DOG POOP IN THAT PARK. 
          BECAUSE HE GOES ALL THE WAY OVER THERE. 
          'CAUSE HE LOVES WHAT YOU'VE DONE. 
          AND I'M LIKE, THAT'S WHAT I WANT OVER HERE. 
          I'M HERE IN CIRCLE. 
          NOW WHERE ARE WE GOING TODAY? NO, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS LIKE, WE'VE DONE A LOT, YOU'VE DONE A FANTASTIC THERE AT VESSEL PARK. 
          YES. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I THINK WE NEED TO CONCENTRATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE OTHER SIDE. 
          YEAH, NO, AND MY CONCERN ALSO IS THAT WITH HISD CONSOLIDATING SCHOOLS, C ROCKY GOING TO VALLA, NOW WE'RE GONNA EVEN HAVE MORE PEOPLE USING A VESSEL. 
          THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING IS ALL, IF ALL I'M ASKING FOR IS LIKE ONE WEEK OF MANUAL LABOR HERE OR THERE, I THINK COMPARATIVELY COMPARED TO THE ASK OF OTHER PARKS, WHICH IS BOTH FINANCIAL AND LABOR, I THINK WE, WE CAN BANG 'EM OUT QUICKLY. 
          DANIEL, WE BOTH KNOW THEY ARE. 
          ONE WEEK DOESN'T TURN INTO ONE WEEK. 
          COME. 
          THE REASON I ASK FOR THAT. 
          NO. 
          EVEN DANIEL'S LAUGHING OVER, COME ON STRIKE. 
          BUT NOT A REPEAT OF TALKING OVER EACH OTHER. 
          NO, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT. 
          WE'RE NOT. 
          WE'RE COOL. 
          I DISAGREE. 
          THE ONE ISSUE IS I WAS A CONTRACTOR THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ME. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS THE OTHER ISSUES, WHICH AGAIN, I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ME. 
          SO THE REASON I ASK IS I HAVE HUNTER PARK EXACTLY IN DISTRICT ONE THAT IT'S VERY JUST, IT'S JUST THERE. 
          AND IT'S, IT'S RIGHT AROUND A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS CONTINUOUSLY ASKED ME, CAN YOU DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS? IT'S, IT'S BEEN WALKING DISTANCE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          THEIR KIDS ARE THERE, THEIR GRANDCHILDREN ARE THERE. 
          AND IT, ALTHOUGH ELLINGTON PARK IS GRAD IS GONNA GET MANY IMPROVEMENTS AND THEY'RE COMING. 
          AND I, AND I CAN TELL THEM THAT THEY HAVE A HUNTER PARK THAT IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS BEEN JUST LEFT ALONE FOR YEARS AND YEARS. 
          AND, UM, AND THEY COULD REALLY USE SOME, I MEAN SOME IMPROVEMENT. 
          SO IF SPONSORSHIP IS WHAT WE NEED, THEN I NEED YOU TO GO OUT THERE FOR IT. 
          I MEAN, I NEED TO GO OUT THERE FOR IT AND THEN SEE WHAT WE CAN DO WITH, WITH WHAT WE HAVE WITH PERSONNEL. 
          AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN. 
          LIKE VESSEL PARK DESERVE, I MEAN, I'M SORRY HUNTER PARK, UH, DESERVES SOME LOVE TOO. 
          THERE'S NO REASON WHY YOUR HUNTER PARK CAN'T BE THE NEXT VESSEL PARK. 
          YOU CAN USE DANIEL'S IMPROVEMENTS THERE AS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF HOW TO DO IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          I COULD MIRROR THAT FROM VEST PARK, BUT THE SPONSORSHIPS I CAN GO OUT AND GET, BUT I'LL NEED THE PERSONNEL FROM, FROM THE CITY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THEN THAT WE'RE GONNA GET INTO, INTO, WELL, I NEED THEM AND THAT, BUT WE NEED PERSONNEL AND WE'RE GONNA, WE ARE GONNA BE UP AGAINST THAT. 
          AND, AND I DON'T WANNA CAUSE THAT CHAOS BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANNA DO. 
          THE THE PARKS IS WE NEED PERSONNEL AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. 
          HUNTER PARK DOES HAVE FUNDING FOR THIS YEAR, UH, YAY FOR A WALK WALKING TRAIL AND SOME LIGHTING MM-HMM . 
          SO THAT'S THROUGH THE CDBG FUNDING, SO, OKAY. 
          YEP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO WHAT ABOUT THIS, WHAT ABOUT HAVING A FOLLOW UP DISCUSSION WITH PARKS? AND AGAIN, CREATING A SUBCOMMITTEE TO SEE WHAT'S POSSIBLE. 
          WE NEED TO HAVE A REALISTIC APPROACH, UM, AT WHAT'S, WHAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IN TERMS OF CAPACITY. 
          UM, AND WE CAN, AND, AND GABE CAN, CAN DO SOME HOMEWORK WITH, UM, MANAGEMENT AND THE DIRECTORS TO SEE WHAT THE PROJECTIONS ARE OF 
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HOW MANY PEOPLE WE'RE GOING TO GET. 
          UM, BECAUSE THIS IS THE SHORT TERM PLANNING. 
          AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ZERO TO THREE YEARS. 
          I DON'T SEE WHY WE CAN'T GET VEST DONE, BUT WE DO HAVE TO DO OTHER THINGS FIRST. 
          I AGREE. 
          BECAUSE I'M STILL WAITING FOR MY BASKETBALL COACH BE, BUT I'M STILL STILL TALKING. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO, UM, WHAT WE CAN, WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN FIND, UH, THIS IS REALLY PUTTING, PUTTING THE BALL BACK IN THE COURT OF PARKS. 
          I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A PLAN AND WE NEED TO SEE THAT PLAN AND FOR THIS COMMISSION TO ADOPT THAT PLAN ON HOW YOU'RE GOING TO IMPROVE AND GET UP TO PAR ALL OF OUR PARKS, HOW LONG THAT'S GOING TO TAKE YOU, MAYBE THAT DOESN'T TAKE VERY LONG. 
          THAT'S THE FIRST PRIORITY. 
          AND THEN FROM THERE, MOVING FORWARD, WE HAVE GRANT FUNDING. 
          UM, WE HAVE FUNDING, UM, IN, IN ALL OF THE DISTRICTS REALLY FROM, FROM DIFFERENT AREAS AND FROM THE SANDY'S ALREADY BUDGETED FOR, FOR THAT SPECIFIC PARK AND SOME OTHERS AS WELL. 
          UH, AND THEN WE CAN TRY TO SEE IF REALISTICALLY WE CAN GET THAT DONE IN INVESTO PARK. 
          I KNOW THAT RAINY WANTS ANOTHER, UH, POCKET PARK OVER THERE BY THE DRAINAGE, BUT, BUT THAT E EVEN THOUGH THAT IS A NEED AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDENTIFIES THAT WE NEED MORE PARKS IN DISTRICT FIVE. 
          AND I WANT THAT. 
          'CAUSE I MEAN THAT'S NEAR, THAT'S IN MY AREA OF TOWN AS WELL. 
          HOWEVER, WE NEED TO FIRST UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PRIORITY LIST IS AND WE CAN'T GET AND START AND, AND GET STAFF TO GO OVER THERE AND CREATE A SECOND POCKET PARK. 
          YOU ALREADY HAVE STEWART PLACE FOCUS. 
          OH, NO, NO. 
          THAT'S GONNA BE A MIDTERM FOR ME. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE NEED TO FOCUS ON, ON THAT FIRST BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED. 
          THAT'S ADDITIONAL WORK THAT THEY'RE NOT EVEN DOING RIGHT NOW. 
          AND THE PARKS RIGHT NOW ARE NOT WHERE THEY NEED TO BE. 
          SO I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY FOCUS ON WHAT'S REALISTIC. 
          HAVE A SECOND MEETING, SEE WHERE WE'RE AT, AND THEN IF IT CAN BE, IF WE CAN, IF THE PROJECTIONS SHOW THAT THEY'LL GET THE STAFF THAT THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THOSE GOALS, THEN WE CAN DO THESE OTHER, UM, SMALLER PROJECTS. 
          BUT THINGS THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO ALREADY BE DONE, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT SHOULD BE CONTINUED AND CORRECT. 
          THOSE HAVE ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED. 
          IT'S JUST THE ADDITIONAL WORK THAT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO PUT ON HOLD. 
          SO I DO AGREE THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN THE PLAN AND THAT WE JUST HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO SHOULD BE HERE. 
          UH, IT'S JUST, I MEAN, I WOULD IMAGINE EVERYBODY FEELS THE SAME. 
          IT'S JUST NOT ADDING MORE THAN WHAT WAS ALREADY, UM, COMMITTED. 
          CORRECT. 
          THE MASTER PLAN FOR VEST HAS ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED. 
          ALL I'M TRYING TO DO IS FINISH IT SO THAT I CAN MOVE ON TO WINDSOR PARK AND THEN ANOTHER PART. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND, AND, AND WHAT THEY WILL DO IS THEY WILL PRIORITIZE THAT. 
          SO EVEN THOUGH IT IS ON THE SHORT TERM, IT'S NOT GOING, I MEAN THERE, I I, I WANT TO SEE THEM WORKING ON ALL OF THE PARKS AND I THINK EVERYBODY ELSE DOES. 
          INCLUDING, INCLUDING YOURSELF, I WOULD IMAGINE TO ENSURE THAT BEFORE THEY, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THEY CAN START WORKING ON OTHER PROJECTS THAT THEY NEED TO FOCUS ON WHAT IS, UM, MOST PRESSING. 
          AND THAT IS ALL OF THE CONCERNS, ALL OF THE COMPLAINTS AND THE CITIZEN, UH, PHONE CALLS ABOUT THIS PARK, THAT PARK, THAT KIND OF THING RIGHT NOW. 
          SO WE CAN, RIGHT NOW, I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UH, WE GOT A LOT ON OUR PLATE. 
          I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON AND WE NEED TO WORK ON AN IRRIGATION SYSTEM RIGHT NOW BECAUSE A LOT OF OUR PARKS IS, YOU CAN, YOU CAN GO RIGHT NOW TO THE PARKS. 
          THEY'RE DRY, THERE'S NO GRASS, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CONCENTRATE ON. 
          BUT IF I CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE CONCENTRATE ON THAT BECAUSE WE WE'RE JUMPING INTO SOMETHING ELSE, IT'S VERY HARD FOR ME TO KEEP UP WITH THESE PARTS. 
          MAYOR, ANOTHER THING, MAYOR. 
          UM, YOU BROUGHT UP A REALLY GOOD POINT. 
          AND THEN, UH, COMMISSIONER MORALE ADDED TO IT. 
          UH, I THINK RIGHT NOW WITH THE STAFF WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, I THINK, UH, WE NEED TO FOCUS ON RESTROOMS, OF COURSE MM-HMM . 
          AND FOCUS ON THOSE PARKS THAT BRING IN THOSE TOURNAMENTS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND I THINK THAT SHOULD BE SHORT TERM. 
          SO ON, UM, THIS SHORT TERM, UM, PLAN, WE DON'T HAVE THE POCKET PARK FOR STEWART PLAYS. 
          UM, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED UNLESS YOU WROTE IT DOWN. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          SO THERE'S, THAT'S THE ONE RIGHT NEXT TO THE FIRE STATION. 
          AND THEN, UM, MIDTERM, YOU SAID THIS OTHER POCKET PARK IN UH, YES. 
          THAT'S MIDTERM. 
          YEAH, FOR ME THAT'S MIDTERM THREE MILL. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO BECAUSE I WANT TO FINISH THIS ONE BEFORE I DO THE OTHER ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          WHERE DOES, UH, HUNTER PARK FIT IN IF WE ALREADY HAVE BUDGET IN THE SHORT TERM? FOR THE SHORT TERM? IS IT UP THERE? NO. 
          HUNTER PARK. 
          IT WILL BE. 
          IT NEEDS TO BE THANK YOU HUNTER ON THIS AFTER, YEAH. 
          NUMBER 11, HUNTER PARK. 
          AND THEN AGAIN, THOSE ARE SPECIFIC TO WHAT THE DOLLARS ARE ALREADY ALLOCATED FOR ANY ADDITIONAL. 
          CORRECT. 
          UM, I THINK THAT THERE'S ROOM TO, YOU KNOW, FOR EVERYBODY TO TALK ABOUT PRIORITY ON, ON IN THAT REGARD, BUT DOLLARS THAT ARE ALREADY COMMITTED, THAT'S DIFFERENT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA ADD, SANDY, THAT WE'RE MISSING THAT YOU HAVE ALLOCATED FUNDING FOR? FOR PARKS? WE'VE 
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GOT, BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S UP THERE. 
          THAT'S UP THERE. 
          THOSE ARE ALL THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, MAYOR, I WANTED TO ADD A COUPLE OTHER GRANTS, UM, THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY HAVE A GRANT AGREEMENT EXECUTED. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO JUST FOR REFERENCE, PARKS ACTUALLY HAS LIKE ABOUT 14 ACTIVE GRANTS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND SO HERE WE, WE ARE MISSING ON THIS LIST, UM, THE TRAIL RELATED PROJECTS. 
          SO YOU HAVE THE, UH, PHASE THREE, THE, THAT'S A PLANNING PROJECT AND THAT'S IN PROGRESS. 
          WE ALSO HAVE THE, UH, DIXIELAND THE CORRIDOR PLANNING, I GUESS ANOTHER PROJECT. 
          AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE EXTENSION, UM, FROM HUGH RAMSEY TO BASICALLY GOING BACK IN THAT, UM, IT'S CALLED THE EAST EXTENSION MM-HMM . 
          AND SO THAT ONE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE CONSTRUCTION FUNDING FOR THAT ONE. 
          AND THEN THERE'S, UH, ANOTHER ONE ON ALONG THE ARROYO TRAIL ALONG THE EXISTING, UM, TRAIL. 
          AND IT'S FOR SAFETY LIGHTING AND OTHER IMPROVEMENTS. 
          SO THESE ARE, THOSE ARE ADDITIONAL ONES. 
          THESE ARE ALL TRAIL, UM, TRAIL RELATED. 
          TRAIL RELATED. 
          SO YEAH. 
          SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE IS, AGAIN, AND MAYBE WE CAN DECIDE AT THE END OF THIS AND CREATING SUB SUBCOMMITTEES AND WHAT COMMISSIONERS WANNA BE ON WHAT AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF. 
          AND THEN WE CAN WORK WITH PARKS TO SEPARATE THOSE THAT ARE, UH, GRANT FUNDING AND CONTRACTED OUT VERSUS WHAT PARKS STAFF IS DOING. 
          SO THEN WE KNOW REALISTICALLY WHAT WE, WHAT, WHAT WE CAN, WHAT WE CAN DO. 
          BECAUSE MAYBE THERE IS MORE CAPACITY IF MOST OF IT IS BEING CONTRACTED OUT. 
          AND ESPECIALLY IN TERMS OF THE ONES THAT ARE KIND OF IN QUEUE WITH THE GRANT, THE, THE, THE GRANTS THAT ARE, UM, THE GRANTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN AWARDED. 
          AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON TRACK WITH THOSE. 
          AND SO IF YOU CAN ALSO HELP US TO SEE WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT AND, UM, AT THE NEXT WORKSHOP, I THINK THAT IT'S GONNA BE IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE ENGINEERING PRESENT, SO THAT WAY WE HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHY HE'S NOT HERE TODAY. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          AND WE SHOULD ALSO HAVE MEDIA HERE, SO THEY'RE NOT HERE TO BE ABLE TO, I THINK DELMAS BACK THERE, MAYOR, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ME. 
          DELMA. 
          . 
          HEY DELMA. 
          UM, BUT TO, TO KIND OF HELP IN, IN THINGS THAT ARE BEING IDENTIFIED LIKE THIS COMMISSION YOU, THE VIDEO THAT YALE DID WAS FANTASTIC, BUT, UM, DANIEL ALREADY HAS HAD, HAS, HAS EXPLAINED IN THE PAST AND MAYBE PUTTING SOMETHING OUT THERE TO, TO TALK ABOUT HOW THAT IS JUST AN, A TEMPORARY IMPROVEMENT AND WHAT THE LONG TERM, LONG TERM GOALS ARE, UM, IN THAT REGARD. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THE SHORT TERM ALSO, WE NEED BUOY PARK THAT HAS ALMOST GONNA BE COMPLETED. 
          AND THEN IT'S UM, ROOSEVELT PARK. 
          OH, I REMEMBER. 
          OKAY. 
          I DIDN'T, WHAT'S GOING ON IN BOWIE PARK? BOWIE PARK IS, WE'RE FINISHING UP THE, UH, PICKLEBALL COURTS. 
          WE'RE FINISHING UP THE, UH, THE PRO SHOP. 
          THEY'RE DONE. 
          RIGHT? THE, THE PICKLEBALL COURTS ARE DONE. 
          OH, THAT'S READY TO ROLL. 
          WE'RE WORKING ON THE, ON THE BUOY PARK. 
          BU THAT'S BOWIE PARK COMMUNITY CENTER. 
          COMMUNITY CENTER, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          I ALWAYS THINK THAT'S THE WAY I SAW IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          SO IT'S THE COMMUNITY CENTER, BUT IN THE BACK IT'S CALLED BOWIE PARK. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU BLEW MY MIND. 
          THAT WAS LIKE BY BOWIE ELEMENTARY. 
          I WAS LIKE, WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE? ISN'T THAT YOUR DISTRICT? THE SCHOOL IS . 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO TO ME THAT'S THE COMMUNITY CENTER. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THE, AND THE GREEN SPACE, WHICH IS CALLED BUOY PARK. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN IF YOU WANTED TO THROW WINDSOR ON THERE, WE CAN THROW IT ON THERE. 
           GOTTA FIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL HERE. 
          HEY, SO, BUT WE, I GOT YOU. 
          I'LL SUPPORT YOU ON HUNTER. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          BUT, BUT WHEN WE'RE, BECAUSE I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT COMMENTS. 
          I GOT TO RIGHT. 
          WE, LET'S TALK THIS OFF. 
          YES, WE HAVE. 
          SO, SO LOOKING AT, JUST IN TERMS OF VISUAL, LOOK AT WHAT PARK'S GOT. 
          IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF WORK. 
          PARKS IS THE BEST DEPARTMENT GUYS RIGHT HERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          TEASING. 
          THEY'RE ALL HERE, YOU KNOW. 
          I KNOW. 
          I WAS LIKE, OOH, MY BAD. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND EVERYBODY JUST LOOKED AT YOU . 
          NO, UH, YEAH. 
           YOU JUST RECORDED. 
          RIGHT? NO PARKS. 
          PARKS DOES HAVE A LOT OF WORK. 
          AND I KNOW THAT WE NEED TO SUPPORT 'EM BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF THINGS UNDERSTAFFED. 
          AND SO WHAT I DID ASK DANNY FOR IS WHAT I REALLY LIKED, WHAT KESTER DID IS HE SAID, PER POPULATION, WE NEED TO HAVE SO MANY OFFICERS, LIKE ONE OFFICER FOR EVERY 14,000 OR WHATNOT. 
          I WANTED US TO DO THE SAME. 
          'CAUSE TO YOUR POINT, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU GUYS. 
          WE DO NEED TO BE MAINLY OBTAINING THE PARKS WE HAVE MM-HMM . 
          SO I JUST THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT PARKS TAKES A PRIORITY. 
          'CAUSE THEY'VE, SEEMS IN THE PAST HAVE BEEN LEFT TO WHERE THEY'RE ON THE VINE. 
          IT JUST, YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME THERE IS, AND I TALKED TO ANNA ABOUT THIS AND SHE STEPPED OUT, BUT WE GET AN AWARD AND UM, PEOPLE ARE LIKE, OH, OKAY, GREAT. 
          YOU GOT THIS MONEY AND THEN NOTHING HAPPENS. 
          AGREED. 
          THAT'S FAIR. 
          AND THAT'S A MY LIFE OF COMMERCE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO IT'S, IT'S, I THINK THAT 
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PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO FEEL LIKE WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THINGS AND NOTHING'S GETTING DONE. 
          AND SO IF WE CAN SHOW A LITTLE LOVE TO THE CITY AND TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO THE PARKS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, THEY'LL SEE THAT THERE IS A REAL, UH, EFFORT TO, TO, TO BEAUTIFY. 
          AND THEN I, I THINK WE'RE ON BOARD. 
          RIGHT? I SAW THAT IT WAS ONLINE. 
          THE PROJECTS ARE NOW ONLINE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, SO THAT'S GONNA BE HELPFUL. 
          SO THINGS LIKE THAT TO JUST, TO SHARE WHERE WE ARE AT WITH THINGS IS GONNA BE IN IMPORTANT, BUT OKAY. 
          ARE WE, ARE WE WRAPPING UP? OR WHAT IS THIS CONSENSUS ON THIS? UM, UH, I WOULD LIKE, LIKE MY DETENTION PART, TO BE HONEST. 
          WELL, I ADDED IT ON MY MOST. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AND ALL THOSE SHORT TERM ONES ALREADY HAVE FUNDING, CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          UH, NOT, NOT ALL OF THEM. 
          WHICH ONES ON THAT FUNDING? UM, THEY DO, IN MY OPINION. 
          I MEAN, THERE, WE DIDN'T SAY HERE, IT'S NOT LISTED, UM, TO GO AND, AND, AND, AND, UM, THE SHORT TERM DOESN'T HAVE THE, I GUESS THE DIRECTIVE OF MAKING SURE THAT THE PARKS ARE WHERE THEY NEED TO BE, BUT THAT'S UNDERSTOOD AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. 
          AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A FOLLOW UP MEETING TO SEE, AND I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO PUT SOMETHING IN, IN WRITING ON WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO ACCOMPLISH THOSE GOALS AND WHAT THOSE GOALS ARE AND WHAT THE TIMELINE IS FOR THAT. 
          UM, BUT ASIDE FROM THAT, GABE, I THINK EVERYTHING HERE HAS FUNDING. 
          THE, THE, UM, THE CONCESSION THAT WE'RE GONNA DO FOR, FOR BOWIE THAT YOU MENTIONED A WHILE AGO, DOES THAT HAVE ANY FUNDING? OH, THAT'S RIGHT. 
          THAT'S THE REALLOCATION OF THE 50. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE SPOKE ABOUT THAT WE WERE GONNA SPEAK TO MARK. 
          OH. 
          BUT WE NEED TO COME GET A AUTHORIZATION FROM THE COMMISSION TO DO THAT. 
          CORRECT. 
          BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO GET DONE, BECAUSE THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE A LONG TIME AGO. 
          SO IT IS A, A PRI A PRIORITY. 
          YES. 
          AND THEY'RE DONE WITH THE PICKLEBALL, RIGHT? UM, WE GET TO GO ON THE PICKLEBALL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          JESUS . 
          SO THEN WOULD YOU BE, WOULD YOU GUYS BE COOL PUTTING THE, THE HICKORY HILLS ON MIDTERM? WE, WE ARE. 
          WHAT'S NOT THERE YET? THAT'S WHAT OH, OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          SORRY. 
          ANOTHER PART TO CONSIDER AS WELL IS THE SOCCER COMPLEX FOR MAYBE MIDTERM. 
          I KNOW THE, WE HAD APPLIED FOR, FOR A GRANT ON THAT ONE, AND THEN IT GOT DETENTION PARK FROZEN. 
          MM-HMM. 
          SO WE NEED TO SUBMIT A AGAIN IN FEBRUARY. 
          WELL, THAT'S GOT MONEY FROM THE, THE ROTARY THAT WE NEED TO FINISH UP. 
          NO, THAT, NO, THAT'S THE OVERALL YEAH. 
          IT'S LIKE A $5 MILLION PROJECT. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT'S, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO HURRY UP AND FINISH THE ROTARY GRANT THEY GAVE US TO GET THAT DONE SO THAT NOT BACK ON THE SHORT TERM. 
          WELL, THERE'S TWO, THERE'S A LONG TERM HE'S TALKING ABOUT. 
          THEN THERE'S THE LONG TERM. 
          YES. 
          THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT WE GOT FROM ROTARY THAT WE, WE NEED TO, THAT'S ALREADY IN THE PROCESS. 
          HAVE WE GOTTEN THE, HAVE WE GOTTEN THE 75 FROM, UM, THE BATTERY? BLACK MOUNTAIN ENERGY? OKAY. 
          WELL YOU GET ANOTHER 75. 
          OKAY. 
          ALWAYS LOOKING FOR MONEY. 
          I THINK WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY FINISH THE PARK IS WHEN IT'S SUPPOSED TO PAY US OR THE BATTERY PARK. 
          I THINK THEY, I DON'T WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT THE MONEY THAT ROTARY GAVE? UH, IT'S FOR THE SOCCER COMPLEX. 
          YES. 
          AND WHEN DOES THAT TAKE PLACE? UM, THEY ORDERED IT. 
          THEY JUST NEED TO INSTALL IT. 
          CAN YOU ADD ON, UM, SHORT TERM THE SOCCER COMPLEX SLASH UH, ROTARY CONTRIBUTION? THAT'S FOR THE BLEACHERS AND WATER FOUNTAINS. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, SHADED STRUCTURES AND YEAH, THERE WAS SHADE STRUCTURES, I THINK WAS THE LARGEST COMPONENT. 
          LIKE 90,000 OR A HUNDRED. 
          A HUNDRED THOUSAND. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WE PICKED IT UP TO 200,000. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I'M SORRY, WHAT? IT WAS PICKED UP TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND. 
          A HUNDRED THOUSAND. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          UM, AND THEN YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU WANTED A TOURNAMENT AT THE PICKLEBALL, CORRECT. 
          TO, AND YOU AND THE MAYOR WOULD START IT OFF . 
          WELL, IT'S NOT REALLY MUCH COMPETITION, BUT YEAH, NO, DELMAS GONNA TRAIN ME. 
          YOU'RE ON. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO LONG TERM GOALS, UM, FOR PARKS, I THINK CONSIDERING WE NEED TO WORK ON THE, THE MAINTENANCE PLANS, SO THE ONES WE ALREADY HAVE, WE DON'T MUCH HAVE A MUCH, NOT MUCH OF A LONG TERM. 
          WELL, I THINK LONG TERM WHAT WE WANT IS OUR VISION OF GREEN SPACE WITHIN A CERTAIN DISTANCE BETWEEN EVERYBODY'S HOME. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          AND THEN, AND FOR MIDTERM MM-HMM . 
          WHAT I WANT US TO START LOOKING AT, UM, SHORT TERM, MIDTERM LONG TERM IS DOING A TRAIL EVERY YEAR. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YOU GUYS CAN PICK THE WHATEVER TRAIL, RIGHT? I THINK DIXIELAND, THAT ONE'S ALREADY WE'RE GETTING FUNDING FOR THAT ONE, RIGHT. 
          OR WE'VE APPLIED FOR FUNDING FOR DIXIELAND DOWN TO THE TRAIL, BUT THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER TRAIL FROM DIXIELAND 
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UP TO CY HILL. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO LONG TERM IS GREEN SPACE, UM, WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT. 
          OUT, OUT. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING THAT I THINK IT'S SHORT TERM, MIDTERM LONG TERM IS, IS PUT NEW WALKING TRAIL AND THEN EVERY YEAR WE WOULD BUILD A NEW WALKING TRAIL. 
          BUT THAT'S MIDTERM, BUT, BUT OUR LONG TERM OR SHORT TERM AND MIDTERM, BUT OUR LONG TERM IS THAT WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED A GREEN SPACE. 
          OKAY. 
          IN WALKING DISTANCE OF EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO THEN YOU'RE SAYING LONG TERM COMPLETED WALKING TRAILS? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          WE ARE, BY THE TIME WE GET THERE, WE WILL HAVE DONE ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE IN SHORT TERM MIDTERM. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? GREEN SPACE, HOW ARE WE GONNA GET TO A GREEN SPACE AVAILABLE WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD? THAT'S FINE. 
          THAT WOULD JUST HAVE TO BE IN THE LONG TERM. 
          BUT WE ARE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH THAT GOAL WITH ALL THE WORK THAT'S GONNA BE DONE IN THE SHORT TERM. 
          AND MIDTERM. 
          AND MIDTERM IS ONE TRAIL, UM, WALKING TRAIL OR A TRAIL THAT IS, IS IS CONNECTING TO OUR TRAIL SYSTEM. 
          WHICH ONE ARE YOU SAYING? UH, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT WE HAVE A WHOLE TRAIL SYSTEM. 
          SO IT'S ONE PORTION OR ONE LEG OF EVERY TRAIL SYSTEM. 
          OKAY. 
          MAKE SURE THAT'S GONNA BE, THAT'S DIFFERENT. 
          AWFULLY HARD TO FUND BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALL THESE OTHER SHORT TERM PROJECTS YOU NEED TO FUND ALSO OR COMPLETE. 
          AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE TRAIL THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT OF MONEY. 
          I KNOW. 
          WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GONNA PAY FOR THAT. 
          SO IS THAT LONG TERM? IT'S MIDTERM. 
          LONG TERM IS THAT'S COMPLETED. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IN MY MIND, THE WAY YOU GET IT COMPLETED, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING YOU HAVE TO DO SHORT TERM, MEDIUM TERM, MIDTERM, AND LONG TERM, I DON'T KNOW, WHAT DOES THE CITY MANAGER SAY? , WHAT DOES THE POCKET, WHAT DOES A CHECKBOOK SAY? YEAH. 
          THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          CITY MANAGERS, CHECKBOOK ARE, I, I MEAN, I AGREE AND THAT IS ONE OF MY PERSONAL GOALS, BUT WHAT CAN WE ACHIEVE, JUAN? I THINK EVERY YEAR IS NOT GONNA, I THINK EVERY OTHER YEAR. 
          MAYBE JUAN, JUST FOR CLAR, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, HOW, HOW ARE WE, UM, LOOKING AT LONG TERM? IS IT LIKE AT THE SIX YEAR TIMEFRAME AND ABOVE LONG TERM IS, I'M SORRY, SIX TO SIX TO FIVE PLUS YEARS? YEAH. 
          I MEAN, BASED ON CONVERSATION AND HOW WE WANT TO BUILD PARKS AND THE NEEDS FOR PARKS, I THINK BY THE TIME WE GET TO LONG TERM FROM SIX TO 10 YEARS, I THINK IT'S VIABLE THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT. 
          AND ALSO EVEN LIKE ACQUISITION OF LAND OR WHAT WE CAN FIND, YEAH. 
          WE CAN GO ON THE PLAN WITH DEVELOPING PARKS AND GROWING. 
          THE WAY I RECALL IT IS THAT THEY WERE GONNA USE, THE WAY IT WAS AN ORIGINALLY DESIGNED IS YOU WERE GONNA PARTNER WITH IRRIGATION DISTRICTS AND DRAINAGE DISTRICTS AND THAT WE WERE GONNA USE PART OF THEIR EASEMENTS TO GET THERE. 
          IF I RECALL CORRECTLY FROM THE 2010 PLAN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE TRAILS, THE TRAIL PLAN, RIGHT? BECAUSE IF I, THE ONE I'M THINKING OF IS THE DIXIE LAND, TOLONI HILL. 
          YOU'RE FOLLOWING THE CANAL SYSTEM AND THE, THE CREWS THAT WE'VE USED TO BUILD OUR TRAILS HAVE BEEN THE STREET CREWS. 
          UM, THEY'RE GONNA BE TIED UP WITH THE LIST THAT WE JUST CREATED. 
          AND THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING OUT FOR EIGHT MILES AND NOT THE SEVEN. 
          IT'S OVER 12, SIR. 
          OVER 12. 
          SO THEY'RE GONNA BE REALLY BUSY ALL YEAR. 
          SO IN ORDER FOR US TO GET THE VALUE OF DOING IT IN HOUSE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAYBE PAUSE A STREET OR TWO TO DO IT OURSELVES TO GET THAT DONE. 
          SO I, I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, THE INTERESTING IDEA IS ANY DISTRICT THAT'S WILLING TO TAKE IT ON WOULD PAUSE A STREET FROM THEIR STREET CREW. 
          SAY THAT AGAIN. 
          WELL THAT'S, WELL WE DID IT THIS YEAR, REMEMBER? WE, WE HAD TO STOP OUR STREET CREW TO GO DO THE CITY LAKE TRAIL. 
          THE TOWN LAKE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I AGREE. 
          WE'RE GONNA HAVE CITY LAKE ONE. 
          WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO THAT AGAIN. 
          WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO THAT AGAIN WITH THE WILSON UH, UH, TRAIL. 
          YEAH, THE WILSON TRAIL. 
          THE PENDLETON PARK TRAIL, UM, THE SOCCER COMPLEX TRAIL. 
          SO WHICHEVER, WHICHEVER DISTRICT IS TAKING THAT, THAT STREET GROUP LOSES A STREET OR WHATEVER OFF FOR THAT ONE YEAR. 
          WE WERE ALREADY APPROVED THE STREET LIST. 
          WE CAN'T DO THAT UNLESS YOU GOT COURSE. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          SO, BUT THE THING IS THAT, WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE PRIORITY THOUGH? LIKE, ARE THE STREETS A PRIORITY OR ARE THE PARKS A PRIORITY? YOU'RE TAKING A ONE WAY. 
          ONE AND THEN, AND, AND, AND THE STREETS ARE A MOBILITY ISSUE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO OUR WALKING TRAILS, RIGHT. 
          BUT IF THEY'RE SAFE, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT WE CAN DO IS ASSESS WHERE WE ARE AT AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR AND IF WE'VE 
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COMPLETED OUR TRAILS, AND I MEAN, IF WE COMPLETED THE STREETS, THEN USE THAT CREW TO FINISH OFF ON THE TRAILS AND START DOING THAT. 
          SO WE NEED A WORKSHOP. 
          YEAH. 
          WE DO NEED A WORKSHOP. 
          WE GOT SOME OTHER THINGS IN STREETS AS WELL THAT YOU WANT TO DO. 
          WELL, I THINK FOR NOW, I THINK MEDIUM OR LONG TERM, WE CAN PUT THE TRAILS THERE AND THEN JUST HAVE A WORKSHOP TO FIGURE ALL THIS OUT. 
          YEAH. 
          THE ISSUE I, MY CONCERN OR MY FEAR IS WE'VE HAD SOME OF THESE PROJECTS ON THE BOOKS FOR THE LAST 16 YEARS. 
          OH. 
          BUT WE, WE'VE DONE TRAILS EVERY, JUST ABOUT EVERY YEAR. 
          UH, WE JUST DID TOWN LAKE. 
          UH, NO, NO, NO. 
          BUT THOSE ARE LIKE LOOPED TRAILS, RIGHT? LIKE A PARK TRAIL. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING COMPARED TO A POINT A TO POINT B MOBILITY TRAIL. 
          SO, SO WHAT ABOUT THIS? WHY CAN'T THAT BE OUR GOAL? BUT OUR GOAL IS TO GET THAT DONE AND TO GET SOME GRANT FUNDING FOR IT. 
          AND, AND THE NPO CAN HELP US WITH, WITH THAT. 
          AND SO THAT SHOULD BE THE GOAL BECAUSE IF WE ARE DEPENDING ON OUR GUYS OKAY. 
          TO BE MOVING THEM, YOU KNOW, TO FROM STREETS TO GET THIS DONE, IT'S JUST A, IT'S A TALL ORDER. 
          WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFF. 
          I, I AGREE. 
          I MEAN, I, I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IDEALLY I WOULD LIKE PART OF HAREN ENGINE'S IDENTITY TO BE OUR TRAILS. 
          AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT EXPANSION AND CONNECTIVITY AND IT WOULD BE NICE THAT EVERYBODY WOULDN'T HAVE TO UTILIZE THEIR VEHICLE TO GET ANYWHERE IN THE CITY. 
          THAT'S A LONG-TERM GOAL. 
          BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF TO GET THAT DONE. 
          AND WE NEED TO WORK ON THE STREETS BECAUSE THE, THE NUMBER, THE, THE COMPLAINTS OF THIS CITY ARE DRAINAGE STREETS AND THEN IT'S . 
          YEAH, I AGREE THAT I THINK ABOUT IT AND I THINK STREETS SHOULD BE THE PRIORITY BECAUSE THAT, THAT'S WHAT'S MORE VISIBLE TO THE, TO THE PUBLIC. 
          BECAUSE YES, A LOT OF PEOPLE DO USE THE TRAILS, BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE, I'M GONNA DRIVE DOWN THIS SCRAPPY STREET TO GO TO WORK AND COME BACK AND ALL THAT STUFF, THAT AFFECTS 'EM ON A DAILY BASIS. 
          SO I THINK THAT STREET SHOULD BE THE PRIORITY. 
          AND I AGREE WITH YOU. 
          I I'M DOWN WITH YOU WITH THE TRAILS. 
          I THINK WE NEED TO EXPAND IT. 
          I, I LOVE THAT IDEA, BUT I THINK PRIORITY SHOULD BE THE STREETS. 
          SO THEN WHAT ABOUT THIS BEING THE HAPPY MEDIUM? IS THAT EVERY YEAR WE'RE APPLYING FOR GRANTS? YEAH. 
          FOR WALKING TRAILS? A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          I AGREE. 
          BUT, AND THE GRANTS TO COVER NOT JUST MATERIALS, BUT CONSTRUCTION, LIKE YOU SAID. 
          YES. 
          BECAUSE I, YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          I WAS THINKING STACK'S GONNA BUILD IT, BUT IF WE CAN ALLEVIATE THAT WORK FROM THEM, WE CAN DO THAT. 
          I LOVE IT. 
          DOES THAT WORK? ABSOLUTELY. 
          WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT EVERY YEAR WITHOUT THE COMMISSION TELLING US TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S A PRIORITY. 
          WE WANT IT MORE . 
          YOU WANT MORE? YES. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO HOW THE SAUSAGE IS MADE  MID MIDTERM IS ONE TRAIL PER YEAR. 
          UM, AND THEN I GUESS, UH, SLASH UH, UH, GRANT, UH, FUNDED, RIGHT? GRANT FUNDED, YES MA'AM. 
          CONSTRUCTION AND LABOR, CORRECT? YES. 
          AND IF WE COULD DO MORE THAN ONE TRAIL PER YEAR, THAT'S GREAT. 
          THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          WE, WE COULD PROBABLY DO SOME OF THE, IN IN THE LOOP ONES THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, COMMISSIONER 'CAUSE YEAH. 
          'CAUSE WHEN I, WHEN I WAS ASKING EARLIER ABOUT WILSON AND, AND DIXIE, WHEN I SAY ARE THEY COMPLETE, IS, IS EVERYTHING WE WANT TO DO AT THAT PARK DONE OR MR. PARKER ALL THAT? NO. 
          IS THAT WHAT WE MEAN WHEN WE PUT IT ON THE LIST? THAT'S MY AND SO IF WE'RE GONNA GO THIS ROUTE THAT WAY, YEAH. 
          WELL THE SHORT TERM, NO, BECAUSE THE SHORT TERM IS SPECIFIC ON GRANTS BEING GRANT FUNDING, UH, MONIES BEING ALLOCATED FOR SPECIFIC PROJECTS WITHIN THE PARK. 
          WHEN YOU PUT THE SHORT TERM GRANTS ON THE LIST, IT'S TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WAS FUNDED THROUGH THE GRANT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          FOR THAT PARK. 
          BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA WANNA DO MORE ON THESE PARKS AS TIME PROGRESSES BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY MONEY, ADDITIONAL MONEY ALLOCATED FROM THE COUNCIL TO ACTUALLY DO THAT. 
          SO IT'S ONLY FOR THAT PART OF THE GRANT THAT WAS FUNDED. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          GRANT AND CDBT RIGHT. 
          TO GRANT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, AND I THINK LONG TERM, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL WOULD AGREE WITH THIS, BUT I THINK THAT LONG-TERM GOALS WOULD BE SHADED STRUCTURES IN ALL PARKS. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          DEFINE SHADED STRUCTURE. 
          IT'D BE SPECIFIC TO THE PARKS, RIGHT? SO IF YOU HAVE BLEACHERS, THEY SHOULD HAVE SHADED STRUCTURES. 
          YES. 
          IT, THAT MEANS THAT YOU, IF YOU HAVE BLEACHERS, THAT MEANS THAT YOU HAVE EVENTS AND THAT PEOPLE ARE SITTING, UM, DOWN AND WATCHING THEIR KIDS PLAY. 
          UM, IF YOU HAVE A PARK WHERE THERE'S A TRAIL AND LIKE VEST WHERE YOU'RE GONNA BE WALKING AND DOING TYPE OF EXERCISE, THERE SHOULD BE A SHADED 
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STRUCTURE. 
          AND SHADED STRUCTURES CAN TAKE ON DIFFERENT MEANINGS. 
          IT COULD BE A TREE, IT COULD BE, UM, THE ACTUAL, THE THAT MATERIAL THAT WE SAW TO IN TERMS OF COVERING THE, UM, THE BLEACHERS. 
          IT COULD BE, UM, SPEC SET, CERTAIN AREAS WHERE THERE'S BENCHES FOR PEOPLE TO SIT, TO SIT WITH THE SHADED STRUCTURE. 
          UH, THERE JUST NEEDS TO BE PLACE FOR RELIEF FROM THE SUN. 
          I THINK THERE SHOULD BE AUTOMATIC ON EVERYTHING, EVEN THE PLAYGROUNDS. 
          I THINK THAT SHOULD BE AUTOMATIC NOW FROM GOING ON FORWARD. 
          IF, IF WE'RE ADDING SOMETHING, IT'S A LONG TERM, IT'S GONNA BE EXPENSIVE. 
          IT IS. 
          BUT I THINK WITH OUR HEAT AND THE SUN THAT WE GET, WE, WE NEED TO HAVE SHADED STRUCTURE, ESPECIALLY PLAYGROUNDS. 
          AND MARY, I I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT THE BLEACHERS, WE NEED TO LOOK AT BLEACHERS. 
          THERE'S SOME THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I THINK AT PENDLETON, UH, THERE, WE STILL HAVE WOODEN STRUCTURES THERE, RIGHT? YES. 
          SO KENTON AND VICTOR, KELTON VICTOR A WOODEN. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT PUTTING A SHADE STRUCTURE, WE OUGHT JUST REPLACE THE WHOLE THING IF WE CAN AFFORD IT. 
          OH, ABSO ABSOLUTELY. 
          I THINK THAT'S MODERNIZING. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          AND, AND, AND I THINK AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO EACH OF THE COMMISSIONERS GOING THROUGH THEIR DISTRICTS LOOKING AT THE PARKS, MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          'CAUSE Y'ALL ARE GONNA BE THE ONES THAT KNOW, UM, I DON'T, I'M I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF THE PARKS AND, AND GETTING INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UH, I THINK YOU DID A GREAT JOB WITH THAT LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK. 
          THERE'S NO TECHNICALLY SHADED STRUCTURES, BUT THERE'S LOTS OF SHADE. 
          CORRECT. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S MY POINT. 
          FOR IT TO BE A PLACE WHERE YOU'RE NOT DYING FROM THE HEAT WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO ENJOY THE GREEN SPACE. 
          AND SO WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE, THAT SHOULD BE OUR LONG TERM GOAL FOR YOU TO NOT ONLY BE ABLE TO WALK TO A GREEN SPACE FROM YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT ALSO FOR THERE TO BE SUFFICIENT SHADE SO THAT WAY YOU CAN BE THERE WITH YOUR FAMILY AND ENJOY IT. 
          AND IT NEEDS TO BE A DA ACCESSIBLE. 
          WE NEED TO WORK TOWARDS THAT. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          A DA ACCESSIBLE. 
          YEAH. 
          LONG-TERM GOALS. 
          LONG-TERM GOAL. 
          YEAH. 
          I AGREE. 
          'CAUSE TO ME, WHEN I LOOK AT A NEW PARK BEING BUILT, PERSONALLY, I THINK THE MONEY SHOULD BE GOING TOWARDS THE AMENITY. 
          AND THE SHADING IS LIKE AN ACCESSORY RATHER THAN NOT IN THIS, NOT IN THIS REGION. 
          IT'S NOT AN ACCESSORY. 
          IT'S AN NECESSITY. 
          PEOPLE, THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT I WAS PUSHING FOR THE REC CENTER IS THAT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, IT'S HOT. 
          IT IT'S HOT AND THERE'S HEAT EXHAUSTION. 
          AND YOU NEED TO BE, IF WE'RE GOING TO CREATE A COMMUNITIES AND, AND PROMOTE HEALTH AND WELLNESS, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY A GREEN SPACE AND HAVE SOME COVERAGE FROM THE SUN. 
          WHETHER THAT BE SOME NATURAL TYPE OF SHADE OR A MANMADE STRUCTURE. 
          UH, BECAUSE IF NOT, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE UTILIZED MOST OF THE YEAR. 
          IT IS A NECESSITY. 
          I REMEMBER THAT'S WHY THE BACK THEN, THAT'S WHY THE SWIMMING POOL AT PELLINGTON PARK WAS COVERED INITIALLY. 
          I MEAN THE YEARS AGO. 
          'CAUSE IT USED TO NOT BE. 
          OF COURSE WE'RE GONNA TRY TO REBO THAT ONE WITH THE FOUR B MONEY. 
          YEAH, WE NEED THAT ONE NEEDS THAT ROOF IS BAD. 
          IT DOES. 
          IT'S ON. 
          ROBERT, HAVE WE APPROVED THE, THE BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THE FOUR B THE CITY COUNCIL YET? OR IS THAT ON THIS AGENDA? IT'S ON THIS AGENDA. 
          UH, THE RESOLUTION IS ON THIS AGENDA. 
          IT'S OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          YOU KNOW, DIDN'T YOU JUST GET SOME FUNDING ON THE FOUR B FOR PANEL FOR VEST? NO. 
          YEAH, YOU DID. 
          I WAS THERE NOT FOR VEST. 
          THIS PAST ONE THAT WE APPROVED. 
          YES, YOU DID. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU DID FOR SHADE STRUCTURES. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          $90,000 YOU DID. 
          IF YOU DON'T WANT IT, I'LL TAKE IT. 
          NO, NO, NO. 
          BECAUSE I'M AWARE THAT ARCS AND THAT FOR THAT THANK YOU GUYS. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          SO, AND, AND YOU WANT SHADED STRUCTURES IN YOUR AREA. 
          WELL I , BUT HONESTLY LIKE TO ME, I WAS LIKE, WELL I PLAYED WITH THAT WHEN I PLAYED BASKETBALL. 
          I DIDN'T NEED A SHADE. 
          LIKE JUST THROW IT. 
          IF YOU'RE ASKING ME, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I'D RATHER USE THAT MONEY. 
          BUT YEAH, THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS WE DIDN'T DO WITHOUT, WE DID WITHOUT, I DRANK FROM THE WATER HOSE. 
          I'M DRINKING MY BOYS DRINKING WATER HOSES. 
          RIGHT? LIKE YEAH. 
          PRETTY SURE WAS . 
          DANNY, YOU WERE GONNA SAY SOMETHING. 
          YES. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS WELL THAT I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE. 
          UH, WHEN WE GET THESE DEVELOPMENTS HERE IN THE CITY, I MEAN THE CONTRACTORS COME IN AND THEY TEAR UP ALL THESE TREES AND THERE'S ACTUALLY TREES THERE THAT MAYBE WE MIGHT WANT TO INVEST IN A SPADE TO WHERE IF IT'S OKAY WITH THEM, WE CAN GO IN THERE AND PULL OUT THESE TREES AND MOVE 'EM TO THROUGHOUT THEIR PARKS, YOU KNOW, AND, AND OH ABSOLUTELY. 
          WE NEED TO CONSERV AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. 
          I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT WAS POSSIBLE. 
          THE BUDGET IS A GREAT IDEA. 
          IS IT A BIG ITEM? THAT IS GREAT BECAUSE THEY'RE EXPENSIVE SPECIFICALLY JUST FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU SAVE THE TREE VERSUS GOING OUT THERE AND JUST DIGGING IT WITH THE BACKHOE AND PULLING IT OUT, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HIT IT. 
          BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONSIDER PUT IN THE BUDGET. 
          I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO MORE OF, OF THAT IF WE'RE NOT DOING IT. 
          YEAH. 
          WE NEED, THEY'RE MATURE AND THERE ARE EXPENSIVE SOME TO GET 'EM AT THAT AGE. 
          PEOPLE OUT THERE AND THEY JUST GETTING GET RID OF 'EM. 
          MIKE WILL LIKE THAT AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT OAKS OR WHO IS IT? LIVE OAKS. 
          LIVE OAKS. 
          LIVE OAKS. 
          LIVE OAKS. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. 
          LIVE OAKS. 
          CAN WE GET A HOLOGRAM LIKE, LIKE IT MIKE, SO WE CAN HAVE HIM HERE JUST, AND A LITTLE RECORDING OF WHAT HE SAYS. 
          . 
          WE 
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NEED TO KEEP THAT IN MIND. 
          WHAT DANIEL, WHAT DANNY JUST SAID ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          THEY'RE SO EXPENSIVE. 
          THE TREES AT THAT AGE AND WHEN THE DEVELOPERS TAKE THEM OUT. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          I AGREE. 
          UM, ARE WE WRAPPING UP OR IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED INTO ANY OF THESE, UM, PLANS? UH, VESTAL MIDTERM IS THIS NEW? I WOULD SAY VESTAL IN SHORT TERM ON THE MONEY THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN ALLOCATED. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND THEN MIDTERM, UM, FOR EXPANSION OR FURTHER FURTHER IMPROVEMENTS? YES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND I THINK WE CAN REVISIT JUST LIKE WE WILL FOR DOWNTOWN ON A YEARLY BASIS AND MOVE THINGS AROUND AS IF WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO, IN TERMS OF STAFFING. 
          I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA BE DOING THAT FOR THE ENTIRE PLAN. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK MM-HMM . 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO WE'RE DOWN TO THE LAST PLAN THEN, RIGHT? DO WE NEED ANOTHER, DO WE NEED ANOTHER BREAK OR WE GOOD? I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, ARTHUR. 
          I WANNA BRING BACK THE UM, GOLD STAR MEMORIAL SINCE WE'RE ON PARKS. 
          OH, THAT'S RIGHT. 
          THE WHAT? COMMISSIONER? GOLD STAR MEMORIAL. 
          OH YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, THAT CAN BE USED, UH, BE FUNDED THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST IT STARTS OUT WITH THE HOT TAGS, BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO THERE IS BRING IN OUTSIDERS, UH, VISITORS TO SEE THIS. 
          NOW THE NEXT QUESTION, THE BIG QUESTION IS WHERE WOULD IT BE BEST TO ATTRACT VISITORS? TON IS WHERE WE HAVE THE REFERENCE. 
          YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY WHERE YOU ALREADY HAVE IT BECAUSE WE, WE HAVE, THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE THE, THE VIETNAM VETERANS. 
          YEAH, CORRECT. 
          IF THERE'S SPACE THERE, THAT WOULD BE IT. 
          WE CAN FIND SOME SPACE COMMISSIONER THAT'S, PARDON ME. 
          WE CAN FIND SPACE TOO. 
          SO THAT ONE WOULD BE, UH, I WOULD SAY MIDTERM. 
          MIDTERM. 
          I'M GOOD WITH THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I THINK YEAH, BECAUSE WE GOTTA GET THOSE FUNDS. 
          YEAH, WE CAN DO IT. 
          DO YOU KNOW THAT? AND THEN BY THE TIME THEY BUILD IT, IT'S ON ALONG THE LINE. 
          UM, DO WE HAVE TO APPLY FOR ANY, ANYWHERE? THE ONLY THING TO USE THAT, WHAT THE, THE GOLD STAR. 
          ALL YOU NEED IS AS FAR AS I CAN, AS MY RESEARCH HAS BEEN, UM, FIND THE, UH, BUILDER AND SET IT UP WITH HIM. 
          OH. 
          IT'LL TAKE A YEAR OR TWO BEFORE HE FINISHES THE MEMORIAL AND OKAY. 
          THEN WE GOTTA TRANSPORT IT AND FIND A LOCATION THE WHOLE NINTH. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE, UH, MIDTERM. 
          AND JUST SO I CAN UNDERSTAND, YOU MEAN GOAT GOLD STAR FROM HARLINGEN, RIGHT? IT ENCOMPASSES A WHOLE VALLEY. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          IT IS NOT JUST HARLINGEN. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST, I JUST WANT CLARIFICATION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU WANT LIKE A WHOLE THING GOLD STAR FOR ALL THE VETERANS? CORRECT. 
          SHOULD WE PUT IN MIDTERM, UH, MIDTERM GOALS? UM, MEMORIAL, UH, POCKET PARKS, NO NEIGHBORHOOD, NEIGHBORHOOD POCKET PARKS. 
          WELL, THE IDEA IS THAT WE NEED TO IMPROVE EVERYTHING WE HAVE NOW. 
          SO LONG TERM GOALS, NEIGHBORHOOD POCKET PARKS. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN, UM, ALSO, UM, DETENTION AT IN PARKS. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD, YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT, DANIEL TRYING TO MOVE TOWARDS THAT, UM, TACKLE TWO THINGS TOGETHER. 
          CORRECT. 
          IS THAT LONG TERM OR MIDTERM? I THINK IT'S SHORT TERM IS IN MY MIND AS EVERY PARK IS ANALYZED, WE'RE GONNA LOOK TO SEE HOW WE CAN TURN INTO A DETENTION POND. 
          SO SHORT TERM. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO SHORT TERM, WHICH IS INTERESTING, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEN THAT MIGHT MOVE CERTAIN THINGS UP. 
          CORRECT? WELL, I WOULD ARGUE, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, UH, DANNY, UH, JUAN, AND I THINK COMMISSIONER GA IS, AND I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE THERE, COMMISSIONER, I FORGET, BUT WE TALKED ABOUT THE SOCCER FIELDS, THE HARSON SOCCER COMPLEX, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          WHEN IT WAS BUILT TO, I FORGET THE TERM THAT THE POLITE TERM THAT WAS USED, UH, IT WAS, THEY DIDN'T PUT THE, THE TYPE OF DIRT YOU WANT IN THERE BECAUSE IT WAS GONNA BE TOO EXPENSIVE. 
          THEREFORE THE KIDS PLAY ON CLAY AND THEN LIKE IT, YOU KNOW, THE KIDS CAN GET INJURED, WHATNOT IS TOPSOIL. 
          YEAH. 
          WHAT WE NEED IS TOPSOIL. 
          AND SO WHAT WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, AND I'VE HAD IT WITH CHRIS AND OSCAR, IS WE ALREADY HAVE ALL THE EQUIPMENT ACROSS THE STREET. 
          WHY DON'T WE JUST MOVE IT THERE AND GIVING YOU TOPSOIL. 
          BUT IF WE'RE THINKING ABOUT TURNING INTO DETENTION POND, DO WE WANNA SCRAPE OUT MORE OF THE TOPSOIL THEN, OR TAKE OFF MORE OF THE CLAY ON THE TOP, PUT IN THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF TOP SOIL AND THEN LEAVE IT LOW SO THAT IT'S ALSO ACCESS DETENTION POND. 
          BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT HELPS YOU. 
          'CAUSE IT'S NOT NECESSARILY NEAR A NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          RIGHT? UH, WOULD WE DO THE SAME THING FOR WILSON? UH, I DON'T 
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KNOW HOW MUCH YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DEEPING THEM, RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          SO LIKE WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR SOCCER FIELDS, UH, SAME THING. 
          LET'S SAY FOR VESTO OR SAME THING FOR VICTOR, BUT IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT POSITIVE IMPACT WILL THEY HAVE FOR THE AREA AROUND THEM. 
          MM-HMM . 
          RIGHT? UH, SO I THINK AN ANALYSIS WOULD NEED TO BE DONE BY PARKS TO SEE WHICH ONES WOULD BE PARKS AND UH, PLANNING TO SEE WHICH PARKS WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA. 
          'CAUSE I TRIED DOING IT FOR LOZANO, LOZANO PLAZA. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BEFORE WE STARTED BREAKING GROUND ON THIS STUFF. 
          I WAS LIKE, CAN WE TURN IT INTO A DE SMALL DETENTION POND? UH, ENGINEERING LOOKED AT IT. 
          THEY DIDN'T THINK IT WAS, IT WOULD BE VIABLE. 
          BUT I AGREE. 
          I THINK THESE PARKS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT FOR THAT, THOSE ISSUES BEFORE WE START INSTALLING OTHER THINGS. 
          AGAIN, I JUST USE YOURS BECAUSE IT'S A BIG OPEN SPACE, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND THERE RIGHT NOW, SO IS IT REALLY BENEFICIAL TO YOU? MM-HMM . 
          JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT. 
          SO, SHORT TERM WOULD BE A PARKS, UM, DRAINAGE ANALYSIS. 
          UM, AND SO WHEN WE MEET AGAIN, DANNY, AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UM, GIVING US OUR, THE PLAN ON HOW YOU'RE LIKE A PLAN OF ACTION, WHAT IS NEEDED, UH, IN TERMS OF MAINTENANCE AND GETTING WHERE WE NEED TO BE FOR THE EXISTING PARKS, THEN ON THERE, WE ALSO NEED, UM, SOME, YOU KNOW, EITHER IT'S DONE OR HOW YOU'RE GOING TO WORK WITH, UH, STAFF TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS THAT ANALYSIS ON EACH OF THE EXISTING PARKS. 
          AND THEN THAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE ANALYSIS ON EACH PARK MOVING FORWARD, POTENTIALLY. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, SO LONG-TERM GOALS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE, UM, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE FUTURE OF HAR ENGINE? YEAH, ANOTHER ONE. 
          UH, WE CAN PUT IT AS A MIDTERM, UH, HARLINGEN FIELD. 
          OH, SO I HAVE SOME, YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK THAT HARLINGEN FIELD, THAT WAS LONG TERM. 
          MIDTERM. 
          MIDTERM. 
          MIDTERM. 
          OKAY. 
          I ORIGINALLY SAID LONG TERM, BUT WE NEED TO PUT IT MIDTERM. 
          I KNOW THAT PARKS IS LOOKING AT THAT AS WELL, UH, FOR THIS MEET FOR THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE FOR IN FACT NEXT COUPLE MONTHS. 
          BUT I, I'VE TALKED TO THEM AND I'VE TALKED TO CASSANDRA ABOUT HOW WE CAN REALLY JAZZ THIS UP, BUT THEY NEED TO GET TOGETHER. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE TO PUT THE, THE, THE HAR ENGINE FIELD ON THE SHORT TERM DESIGN, UM, FOR, BECAUSE I KNOW STAFF'S GONNA COME TO US RE QUICKLY HERE. 
          SO, UH, FOR CERTAIN, UM, A CERTAIN REQUEST, RIGHT? FOR THE SHORT TERM AND THEN THE MIDTERM, UH, FOR A REQUEST TO GO OUT FOR, UH, GRANT FUNDING TO COMPLETELY REVITALIZE THAT SPACE WITH, WHEN YOU SAY HARFIELD, WHAT ARE YOU REFERRING TO? SO THE, THE WHITE WING FIELD. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT I DO THINK IT'S GONNA REQUIRE, UH, GRANT FUNDING. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE US TO LOOK AT SEEING IF WE CAN SELL THE RIGHTS TO THE NAMING OF THE FIELD. 
          THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA. 
          SELL THE RIGHTS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, UH, NRG STADIUM OR COMERICA, OR IT USED TO BE WHEN I WAS A KID OR YOUNGER WHEN I WAS IN LAW SCHOOL. 
          MINUTE MAID. 
          BUT NOW SELL THE RIGHTS. 
          SELL THE RIGHTS. 
          I NEVER EVEN THOUGHT OF THAT. 
          THAT'S A GOOD IDEA, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          SEE WHICH COMPANY? IT COULD BE TITO RESENDEZ FIELD OR WHATEVER YOU WANT. 
          TITO RESEND, STATE FARM FIELD, WHATEVER YOU WANT. 
          GO AHEAD AND GO. 
          I'LL CALL MY COUSIN. 
          IS YOUR OH, OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          CONFLICT. 
          YEAH, CONFLICT, CONFLICT. 
          BUT WHOEVER WANTS TO BUY 'EM, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT. 
          ALEXIS AND I AT ONE POINT TALKED ABOUT FOR THE STAGE, UM, HED OR LOZANO. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO MIDTERM IS BASEBALL FIELD, UH, GRANT FUNDING. 
          GOT IT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, WHAT ABOUT STAFF? YOU GUYS ARE REAL QUIET. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS, UH, IN TERMS OF LONG, LONG TERM GOALS, DANNY, THAT WE NEED IN PARKS? WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY? YEAH, BUT IT'S JUST THAT THE SOCCER COMPLEX, THAT'S, THAT'S A HUGE ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          LIKE I SAID, THAT'S WHAT ABOUT PURCHASING ADDITIONAL LAND FOR A FUTURE PARK? SO LAND ACQUISITION. 
          YES. 
          LONG TERM. 
          TERRIBLE IDEA. 
          TERRIBLE IDEA. 
          TERRIBLE IDEA. 
          WE DON'T WANNA DO THAT. 
          WE DON'T HAVE THE MANPOWER FOR IT, BECAUSE KIDDING. 
          JUST TO BUY SOMEBODY'S SALTY, . 
          ALWAYS, ALWAYS, MAN. 
          IT'S ALL IN GOOD FUN. 
          AGREED. 
          SEVERAL DAYS. 
          UM, THE, AND THEN SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE US TO LOOK AT MIDTERM. 
          THIS ISN'T, UH, NECESSARILY A PARK, DIRECT PARK ISSUE, BUT I WOULD LIKE US TO, WE NEED TO LOOK AT UPGRADING THE PARK FACILITIES, LIKE THE ACTUAL WAREHOUSING BEHIND ORANGE FIELD. 
          OH YEAH. 
          WE'RE BUYING MORE EQUIPMENT FOR ALL THE THINGS WE'RE DOING, BUT IF, LIKE, APPARENTLY IT FLOODS NOT ONLY FROM THE GROUND, BUT ALSO FROM WHEN THE RAIN COMING THROUGH THE, THE, THE CEILING. 
          MUCH LIKE PENDLETON. 
          AND SO I KNOW I'VE TALKED TO OSCAR ABOUT WRAPPING THE WHOLE THING, WRAPPING 
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IT, AND THEN EXPANDING IT. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE US SHORT TERM TO DO A DESIGN, IF YOU CAN GET IT TO US IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO, UH, IN BETWEEN THE 50 PROJECTS WE HAVE FOR YOU GUYS. 
          RIGHT. 
          . 
          AND THEN WE LOOK AT BUILDING IT FOR YOU GUYS IN THE NEXT, UH, TWO YEARS. 
          WHAT YOU GUYS ARE READY FOR SHEET. 
          THINK YOU HAVE PARKS. 
          IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU GUYS NEED? UH, HEADQUARTERS,  PERSONNEL. 
          JESUS. 
          I'M HELPING. 
          THEY'RE, ANYTHING ELSE ADD TO THIS? 'CAUSE THIS THEIR LIST THAT'S, UH, I THINK LONG TERM LIST. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, A CENTRALIZED OUR OWN LOCATION, LIKE OTHER, UH, MUNICIPALITIES WHERE WE HAVE, THAT'S A LONG TERM. 
          WE CAN PUT IT ON THE LONG TERM THING. 
          WHERE ARE YOU THINKING? SO I'VE ALREADY BEEN THINKING ABOUT THAT, AND I WILL JUST, I'VE BEEN TALKING TO ANNA. 
          SO WE'VE GOT, UM, IS GOOD, GOOD. 
          UH, POINT, I GUESS A GOOD TIME TO BRING IT UP. 
          BUT WE HAVE THE FUNDING FOR THE REC CENTER AND IT'S GOING TO BE THERE AT, UH, PENDLETON PARK. 
          AND SO WE HAVE SOME GREAT IDEAS AND GREAT RENDERINGS TO HAVE A ALL INCLUSIVE TYPE OF INDOOR FACILITY. 
          BUT IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE CAN POTENTIALLY GO VERTICAL AND HAVE, UH, PARKS AND REC HOUSED IN THE BUILDING TOO, UPSTAIRS, HAVING THE WHOLE SPACE AND THEN POTENTIALLY HAVING LIKE A WORKSPACE AREA THAT'S OPEN TO, UM, YOU KNOW, STAFF IF THEY'RE GONNA HAVE SOME KIND OF WORKSHOPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          KIND OF LIKE THE COMMUNITY CENTER SERVES AS THEIR SPACE. 
          AND THE COMMUNITY CENTER CAN BE DESIGNATED FOR SOMETHING ELSE. 
          THAT COULD BE AN AREA WHERE THEY CAN HAVE SMALL LITTLE, UM, WORKSHOPS IF THEY NEEDED. 
          SO THE ENTIRE UPSTAIRS WOULD BE FOR OFFICE SPACE. 
          UM, 'CAUSE THERE WAS GOING TO BE SOME SPACE DESIGNATED, LIKE FOR THE COORDINATOR OR SOMEONE, OR I THINK DOWNSTAIRS ONE OFFICE. 
          IT'S REALLY NOT SUFFICIENT. 
          SO THERE ARE, I KNOW PLENTY OTHER CITIES HERE IN THE RIO GRANDE VALLEY THAT HAVE THEIR OWN, THEIR SEPARATE HARLAN AND OR THEIR PARKS AND B REC DEPARTMENT. 
          UH, AND I THINK THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT. 
          WERE WE ALSO THINKING ABOUT A YARD OR JUST OFFICE SPACE? WELL, IN THE LONG TERM, IDEALLY, LIKE WHEN I, WHEN I BENCHMARKED AGAINST LIKE, LET'S SAY THE SAN ANTONIO MACALLAN AND OTHER AREAS, TYPICALLY THEY HAVE THEIR ADMINISTRATIVE ADMINISTRATION OFFICE, RIGHT NEXT TO SAME BUILDING. 
          CONNECTED IS THEIR PARK STAFF, PARK MAINTENANCE. 
          BUT THEY ALSO HAVE THEIR YARD. 
          THEY ALSO HAVE THEIR YARD. 
          UM, SO YOU HAVE ALL YOUR EQUIPMENT STORED, UM, SHELTERED THERE. 
          SO A POTENTIAL LOCATION COULD BE RIGHT NEXT TO HARING AND FIELD. 
          MAYBE WE HAVE A FUTURE PLAN WHERE WE CAN JUST IMPROVE THE YARD, BUT KILL TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE WHERE WE CAN JUST DO OUR HEADQUARTERS THERE TOO. 
          POTENTIALLY. 
          I, I THINK MAYOR, WE STILL NEED TO HAVE REC STAFF THERE AT, AT THE, AT THE REC CENTER. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT MAYBE, I THINK WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IS MORE OF A WORK. 
          THERE'S DIFFERENT, THERE'S, THERE'S ADMINISTRATION STAFF, AND THEN THERE'S THE, THE MAINTENANCE STAFF. 
          SO THAT'S SEPARATE. 
          I THINK THAT AT THE PARK, YOU'RE NOT GONNA WANNA HAVE A WHOLE WAREHOUSE AREA OF, YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT YOU WILL WANT TO HAVE PARKS, UM, ADMIN STAFF, AND THAT IS MORE OFFICE SPACE AT THE REC CENTER. 
          UH, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ENOUGH ROOM AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA WANT, I MEAN, IT'S STILL A, UH, A PARK AND, AND A HUB FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          BUT I DO THINK IT, TO YOUR POINT, WE DO NEED TO UPDATE THEIR FACILITIES AND ENSURE THAT IT'S SECURE FOR MAINTENANCE. 
          GREG AND EQUIPMENT, THE CONCERN I HAVE, AND I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT ANY OF THE RENDERINGS MM-HMM . 
          IS MAKING SURE THAT WHATEVER BUILDING WE BUILD, THE  HAS THE ROOM TO GROW. 
          LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE ROOM TO GROW INTO IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          MY CONCERN WITH A LOT OF THE BUILDINGS THAT I SEE BEING BUILT, PEOPLE HAVE BUILT IT FOR THEIR NEEDS RIGHT NOW, OR THEIR NEEDS FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I, IT'S, IT'S Y'ALL'S BABY, RIGHT? IT'S ALL OF Y'ALL'S BABY. 
          YEAH. 
          I WOULD JUST MAKE SURE AND BUILD IT SO THAT PARKS CAN GROW INTO IT. 
          AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, BUILDING THEM THE SPACE, NOT ONLY FOR THE CURRENT PARK STAFF, BUT IF WE'RE GONNA GROW THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IN THE NEXT FIVE 30 TO BUILD THEM OUT SUFFICIENT SPACE TO GROW INTO AS WELL. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S, THAT'S DEFINITELY THE, THE IDEA. 
          BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SPACE. 
          THEY'RE AT CY HILL ON TOP OF EACH, ON TOP OF EACH OTHER. 
          AND THAT WOULD BE IDEAL TO HAVE LCY HILL SPECIFICALLY JUST FOR PLANNING AND ENGINEERING AND, AND CODE AND ALL THOSE GOOD STUFF. 
          BUT TO HAVE PARKS SEPARATE. 
          MAYOR, I THINK, UH, COMMISSIONER LOPEZ, UH, BROUGHT UP A REALLY GOOD IDEA ON, UH, FOR MAINTENANCE PERSONNEL THERE, WHERE THEY'RE AT, BECAUSE IT'S CENTRALIZED. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT WOULD BE THE IDEAL PLACE TO REDO THAT SECTION. 
          MAYBE ADD A, I KNOW YOU HAD BROUGHT UP A BOXING AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE TO ADD THERE. 
          OR A BOXING GYM THERE. 
          THE TRAIL IS THERE. 
          TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF ALL THAT STUFF. 
          DO I? THERE'S A GREAT IDEA THERE. 
          WHERE'S THERE? UM, AT, UH, FIVE WING STADIUM, GRANDFIELD FIELD OFF OF WICHITA. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, I LEAVE IT TO YOU GUYS PARKS. 
          UH, YOU, IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PLAN, IT'S GONNA BE YOUR BABY. 
          AND I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I WANNA MAKE SURE 
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YOU GUYS ARE HAPPY AND CAN GROW INTO IT RATHER THAN IN FIVE YEARS WE'RE COMING BACK TO THIS EXACT SAME CONVERSATION. 
          I AGREE. 
          I I, I THINK THAT, UM, LIKE MAYOR SAYS, UH, TO GROW INTO IT, I LIKE THE IDEA OF IT BEING AT PELETON PARK, THE ADMINISTRATIVE PART OF IT. 
          UM, BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE TO GO WHERE THE PARKS ARE AT, AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE WHERE YOU CAN BE AT IS REALLY A GOOD PLACE. 
          OF COURSE, IT'S IN DISTRICT ONE . 
          UM, SECONDLY, TO HAVE THE, THE, THE MAINTENANCE PART OF IT, UM, AND EVERYTHING ELSE, UH, TO FIND A LOCATION WOULD BE GOOD AS WELL. 
          BUT I DO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER LOPEZ TO BE ABLE TO BUILD TO WHERE YOU CAN GROW INTO IT IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS WOULD BE GREAT. 
          BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF, UM, CONVERSATION RIGHT NOW TO BUILD IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. 
          WE DON'T WANNA DO THAT EITHER. 
          SO I REALLY DO LIKE THAT IDEA. 
          PLUS YOU DO NEED TO GROW. 
          YOU NEED TO HAVE SOMEWHERE TO GO MOVE INTO. 
          NOW YOU DO. 
          IF YOU GUYS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, YOU SHOULD SWING OUT TO GO SEE JOE VEGA'S, UH, OFFICE AT SAPORA ISLAND. 
          OH, IT'S, THAT'S NICE. 
          WELL, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE WHOLE SPACE THAT HASN'T BEEN BUILT OUT YET. 
          YET, UH, SO THAT WHEN THEY'RE READY FOR IT, THEY CAN BUILD IT AS THEY NEED TO BE. 
          SO WHY WOULD YOU SAY SO? GO LOOK AT IT. 
          I THINK THEY'RE GONNA WANT THAT , SO GO LOOK AT IT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THANK YOU GUYS. 
          I THINK WE'RE DONE. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          I THINK WE, THE ONLY THING WE'RE MISSING IS WE HAVE LIKE A DA COMPLIANCE, UM, YEAH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          YOU HAD A QUESTION. 
          WELL, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT THAT WE'RE TRANSITIONING OUR TRAINING FACILITY OVER TO THE EOC. 
          SO THE FACILITY THAT WE HAVE ON MURKOWSKI, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE, UH, THE DOGS ANIMAL SHELTER. 
          UM, THAT LAND COULD BE AVAILABLE FOR MAYBE A PARK OR A DOG PARK OR SOMETHING. 
          YOU GUYS ARE IN HERE. 
          THAT'S DISTRICT TWO. 
          THEY HAVE TOO MANY  STILL STATION. 
          IT'S A NICE IDEA. 
          I ALREADY HAVE AN IDEA FOR THAT LAND ANYWAYS. 
          OKAY. 
          HE WAS, YOU THINK I DIDN'T KNOW MY FRIENDS? YOU THINK I DIDN'T HAVE A PLAN, WHICH IS WE CAN MOVE INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THE ANIMAL SHELTER. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE. 
          SOLD. 
          ONE MORE. 
          ONE MORE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          HAS ONE MORE. 
          SORRY. 
          THERE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          LAST TERM. 
          GOAL WISE, I THINK THE COMMISSION AND, AND THE WHOLE CITY SHOULD HAVE AN INITIATIVE WHERE ALL PARKS BEING, UM, CONSTRUCTED OR PLAYGROUND BE ALL INCLUSIVE. 
          UH, SO THAT ALL CHILDREN, UH, EVERYONE CAN ENJOY THE, THE PLAYGROUND ITSELF AND JUST MAKE THAT A FOCUS, A LONG TERM GOAL. 
          SOMETIMES WE JUST LOOK, LOOK AT A COST AND WELL, WE'LL DO THIS TYPE OF PLAYGROUND, BUT IT DOESN'T MEET THE NEEDS OF ALL THE CHILDREN OR EVERYONE. 
          SO JUST KIND OF HAVE THAT FOCUS THERE. 
          ALL INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUNDS. 
          I THINK THAT KIND OF GOES ALONG WITH OUR A DA COMPLIANCE. 
          UM, BUT I THINK THAT'S GOOD. 
          WHAT, WHAT HE'S ESSENTIALLY SAYING IS THAT WE MAKE IT A GUIDING PRINCIPLE. 
          OH. 
          UH, AND I, AND I'M ON BOARD WITH THAT ALL INCLUSIVE. 
          AND IF WE'RE GONNA GO WITH GUIDING PRINCIPLES, I GOT A FEW OTHERS, RIGHT. 
          WHICH IS USING NATIVE PLANTS AND THEN, UH, THE DARK SKYLIGHTS AND ALL THAT TYPES OF JAZZ. 
          SO, CAN WE PUT THOSE ON THERE? YES, MA'AM. 
          ON OUR, IN, UH, LONG TERM, LONG TERM, WE CAN CALL 'EM LONG-TERM GUIDING PRINCIPLES. 
          'CAUSE THEY'LL BE IMPLEMENTED ESSENTIALLY FROM DAY ONE, BUT MM-HMM . 
          AND THAT'S KIND OF WHY I WANT FOR US, SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT FOR US TO HAVE A SECOND MEETING AND HAVE THIS COMMITTEE WITH, UH, DANNY, SO THAT WAY WE HAVE LIKE THE EXPECTATIONS OUT THERE AND THEY DON'T GET LOST. 
          LIKE, I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE, OKAY, WE DID IT. 
          NOW IT SITS ON THE SHELF. 
          AND SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT IF WE'RE GONNA START MOVING FORWARD ON DAY ONE, THEN WE NEED TO START MOVING FORWARD. 
          IT NEEDS TO BE MEMORIALIZED IN PAPER SO THAT WAY WE CAN CONTINUE DOWN THAT PATH. 
          SO IT'S NOT JUST, OH, THIS PARK OR THAT PARK. 
          I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          BUT, UM, ONE DAY, UH, ONE DAY WE ALL WON'T BE HERE AND WE WOULD LIKE FOR THINGS TO CONTINUE TO, UH, GO IN THAT DIRECTION. 
          SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THAT'S THE VISION OF THE CITY, AND IT GETS PLACED IN OUR PLAN. 
          AGREED. 
          SO YEAH. 
          THE LONG TERM GUIDING PRINCIPLES WOULD BE, UH, 88. 
          YEAH. 
          WE HAVE 88 COMPLIANCE AND WOULD HAVE, UH, NATIVE PLANTS BEING PRIORITIZED. 
          NATIVE PLANTS AND, AND WILDLIFE BEING PRIORITIZED. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PRESERVATION IDEAS HUH? PRESERVATION IDEAS THAT BLEED INTO PARKS? YEAH. 
          I, I CAN GO AGAIN. 
          THIS IS JUST THE PRIORITIES. 
          I CAN WORK WITH STAFF ON THAT STUFF. 
          THE BIG THING AGAIN, FROM THAT WATER CONFERENCE WAS CONSERVATION. 
          MM. 
          SO IT'S HOW DO WE CONSERVE THE WATER AS WELL? UH, AND THEN HOW DO WE MAKE THE BEST USE OF IT STAFF IS, UH, CHRIS. 
          AND, AND, UH, RUTH DID A GREAT JOB. 
          THEY WITH ME ON A BEAUTIFICATION PROJECT MM-HMM . 
          WHERE THEY USE THE DRIP LINES. 
          SO IT'S LIKE, ALL RIGHT. 
          USING DRIP LINES WHERE WE NEED TO. 
          AND THEN USING THE BIG SPRINKLERS, LIKE DRIP LINE WON'T MAKE SENSE FOR YOU. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU NEED THE BIG OLD ONE HOSE TO ME IN NURSING. 
          SO . 
          YEAH, . 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, YEAH, NO, SORRY. 
          UH, BIG SPRINKLER. 
          SO IT'S FIGURING THAT TYPE OF STUFF OUT. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT 
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I GOT YOU. 
          I GOT YOU ALL. 
          ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE MOVE ON? ALRIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UH, I DO I HAVE SOMETHING, I'M SORRY. 
          WHEN YOU SAY LONG TERM GUIDING, UH, I'M SORRY. 
          A DA COMPLIANCE JUST FOR THE PEOPLE OUT THERE. 
          DO WE, ARE WE NOT A DA COMPLIANCE ON OUR THINGS RIGHT NOW? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE IN DOWNTOWN PLAN AS WELL. 
          SO IF YOU WANNA, UH, UM, CIRCLE BACK TO THAT TOO. 
          JUST YEAH. 
          IT'S THERE. 
          THE A DA COMPLIANT. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S IN THE SHORT TERM. 
          IN OUR WRITTEN, IN OUR WRITTEN GOALS. 
          IN OUR WRITTEN ONE RIGHT NOW IT'S THE THIRD ONE. 
          THE THIRD BULLET POINT. 
          THE ONLY THING THAT WE HAVE TO BE A DA COMPLIANT, REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DO, IS FOR STREET RECONSTRUCTION AND FACILITY CONSTRUCTION. 
          THERE, THERE'S, THERE'S STUFF ON PARTS TOO. 
          IS THERE? YEAH. 
          I JUST DISCOVERED IT LIKE TWO WEEKS AGO. 
          DON'T SAY IT IN PUBLIC. 
          'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW . 
          THAT'S EXACTLY WHY I ASKED, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN ASKED THAT BEFORE. 
          AND, UM, AND I KNOW THE ANSWER, SO I WANTED TO KNOW THAT. 
          'CAUSE I KNOW WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA BE ASKED THAT, OR MANY OF US WILL BE ASKED THAT TODAY OR AFTER TODAY, AND I WANTED TO KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GONNA BE A DA COMPLIANCE. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A PRIORITY. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, GOING BACK TO WE NEED TO REVISIT THE PARK, SEE WHAT, WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND, AND TO BRING IT UP TO A CERTAIN STANDARD. 
          DOWNTOWN IS A WHOLE OTHER ANIMAL BECAUSE OF LIKE SOME GRANDFATHERING, UM, CLAUSES AND MOVING FORWARD. 
          UM, BUT NOT ONLY IS IT A LONG-TERM GOAL THAT WE CONTINUE TO GO DOWN THIS PATH, LIKE IN TERMS OF THESE GUIDING PRINCIPLES TO BE ABLE TO ENSURE THAT MOVING FORWARD, EVERYTHING THAT IS DEVELOPED IS A DA COMPLIANT, BUT ALSO DOING AN INVENTORY OF WHAT WE HAVE AND A PLAN OF ACTION ON HOW TO GET THERE. 
          AND, UM, NEXT, UH, NEXT WEEK, I'M SURE YOU GUYS ALREADY SAW THE AGENDA. 
          WE DO HAVE AN ITEM ON THERE FROM JUST ONE PART OF THE COMMUNITY, UM, THAT HAS REACHED OUT AND WE'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, STAFF AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM, THE, THE BLIND COMMUNITY, AND THEY HAVE CONCERNS TOO. 
          SO WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF THAT. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THESE, UM, SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD POCKET PARKS KIND OF WITH THAT INITIATIVE TO TRY TO, TO, TO MAKE IT WHERE THERE'S A PARK FOR EVERYBODY IN THIS COMMUNITY. 
          CORRECT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THAT ALSO GOES TO LIKE OUR MPO AND, AND ALL THAT STUFF. 
          MM-HMM . 
          MM-HMM . 
          CROSSWALK, EVERYTHING. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, NOTHING ELSE. 
          THEN WE CAN JUMP RIGHT INTO THE BIG CAR ENGINE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          OKAY. 
          . 
          UM, MAYOR, IN YOUR PACKET, YOU ALSO HAVE A HANDOUT FROM ANA REGARDING SOME OF THE PRIORITIES THAT SHE, UH, HAS CREATED. 
          UM, NOW THIS ONE, UH, THE COMP PLAN IS SOMETHING THAT, I MEAN, ALL OF THESE PLANS WE USE EVERY DAY, AND, BUT THE CO THE COMP PLAN HAS A BIGGER OVERREACHING, UH, IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THE, THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY'RE SUGGESTING, BUT ALSO BECAUSE IT IMPACTS DEVELOPMENT, HOUSING, UH, AND THE, THE CITY'S ECONOMY. 
          SO, UM, IT STARTS WITH LAND USE. 
          AND A LOT OF THESE ARE NOT GONNA BE CAPITAL PROJECTS LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT FOR DOWNTOWN. 
          AND, UM, AND FOR PARKS, UH, A LOT OF THESE ARE GONNA BE REGARDING GUIDELINES, UH, POLICIES. 
          AND SO, UM, AND YOU ALSO HAVE, EXCUSE ME, A, UM, UH, A LIST OF WHAT I, I WENT THROUGH WHAT SHE SUBMITTED, AND I CAME UP WITH A FEW MYSELF. 
          UM, AND SO I THINK, UH, I THINK THESE ARE GONNA BE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO, UM, TO LOOK AT AND COME UP WITH OUR, OUR, OUR LIST, UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE GONNA BE USING THESE ON A DAILY BASIS, AND IT'S GONNA IMPACT NOT JUST THE CITY, BUT ALSO DEVELOPERS AND CONTRACTORS AND EVERYONE ELSE THAT COMES INTO TOWN TO EXPAND. 
          UH, IT STARTED OFF WITH LAND USE, UM, ON A, THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY IN THE ORDER REGARDING LAND USE AND ALL THE OTHER CATEGORIES, RIGHT? IT'S JUST A, A LISTING OF WHAT YOU CAME UP WITH FOR THAT PARTICULAR CATEGORY. 
          SO YES. 
          SO I, I DID PUT A RANK, UM, I, I SIGNED A RANK ON THE LAST COLUMN. 
          AND, AND IT'S A COMBINATION OF IMPORTANCE, LIKE BASICALLY LIKE LAYING OUT THE FOUNDATION, UH, FOR FUTURE POLICY, UH, IMPLEMENTATION. 
          AND THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, IN LINE WITH, LET'S SAY IN THIS CASE IT WILL BE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH WAS A GROUND FUNDED PROJECT. 
          AND SO THE SECOND, THE SECOND COMPONENT OR THE SECOND DELIVERABLE FOR THAT, IT WAS TO ADOPT A REVISED ZONING ORDINANCE THAT IS ALIGNED WITH OUR, UM, HAZARD MITIGATION, UM, POLICY OR HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY NUMBER ONE IS, UM, UPDATE THE ZONING ORDINANCE, WHICH THE CONSULTANT HAS 
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ACTUALLY GONE THROUGH THE ZONING, UH, ORDINANCE AS WELL AS THE FLOOD DAMAGE PREVENTION ORDINANCE. 
          AND THEY HAVE RECOMMENDED, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME MINOR EDITS. 
          UM, THEY ARE NOT DOING THE, THE CHANGES TO REFLECT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, THE NEW ONE. 
          AND THEY'RE NOT MAKING CHANGES, UH, TO REFLECT THE NEW DISTRICT TYPES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE ON AND COMPLETE THAT. 
          AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY, THAT'S NUMBER ONE. 
          SO I WOULD ADD ON THE, JUST SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF IN RURAL, YOU KNOW, AT THE FOREFRONT LATELY, AND I'M SURE YOU HAD SOME CONVERSATION ON IT DURING YOUR TOWN HALL, IS THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO BE UPDATING THE ZONING ORDINANCE, WE NEED TO LOOK AT NOW POTENTIAL DATA CENTERS COMING INTO THE COMMUNITY AND ENSURING THAT WE ARE, UM, PROTECTING THE CITY, UM, AND THE RESOURCES OF THE CITY. 
          AND, AND ALSO TAKING INTO ACCOUNT, LIKE YOU'VE MENTIONED, THE, THE, UH, BEAUTIFYING THE CITY TOO AND MAKING SURE THAT IN THE FUTURE WE HAVE ZONING ALREADY IN PLACE. 
          SO I HAD LOOKED AT POTENTIALLY, UM, A MOR A MORATORIUM, AND I REACHED OUT TO OUR, KIND OF OUR STATE DELEGATION TO SEE WHAT'S POSSIBLE AND WHAT'S NOT. 
          AND I THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS. 
          I KNOW COUNTIES CANNOT DO A MORATORIUM, RIGHT? AND IF A CITY DOES, IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF A LAWSUIT. 
          SO BECAUSE OF THAT, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO REALLY, UM, PRIORITIZE THE UPDATING OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, AND SPECIFICALLY SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION CAN ADOPT IN TERMS OF DATA CENTER. 
          IT'S GONNA REQUIRE A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH. 
          AND I THINK WE'VE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE STARTED, WE'VE STARTED ON THAT AND ALREADY LEARNED A LOT. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S GOING TO SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO GET DONE RATHER QUICK HERE. 
          UH, NOT SO MUCH BECAUSE OF WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE HAPPENING IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY, UM, BUT FOR THE FUTURE OF THE CITY OF HARLINGEN. 
          SO THAT WAY WE ARE READY. 
          AND LET ME REPHRASE. 
          UH, THERE HAVE BEEN THREATS THAT IF A COUNTY ISSUED A MORATORIUM THAT THEY, WELL, THERE WAS A LAWSUIT IN ONE COUNTY IN, UH, I CAN'T THINK OF, I THINK IT STARTS WITH AN H OR SOMETHING. 
          I HAD LOOKED, UM, HAYES MAYBE, LET ME SEE. 
          I'LL TELL YOU. 
          IT WAS HAYES IN, UH, I THINK KING COUNTY. 
          THERE WAS A THREAT OF A LAWSUIT, NOT AN ACTUAL LAWSUIT THEN. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, NONETHELESS, WE, WE, WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT ANYTHING THAT WE DO COMPLIES WITH STATE LAW CLEARLY, LEE. 
          UM, AND I THINK IN THIS CASE, MAYOR, WHAT I WAS GONNA SUGGEST IS THAT WE HAVE A WORKSHOP TO TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSED, UH, REASON, UH, ZONING ORDINANCE. 
          AND THEN WE CAN INCLUDE ANY, ANY TOPICS REGARDING AN ORDINANCE THAT WE MAY HAVE REGARDING DATA CENTERS IN THAT DISCUSSION AS WELL. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THIS CERTAINLY, I THINK SHOULD BE SHORT TERM. 
          I THINK WE'RE READY TO PRESENT THE ORDINANCE OF OUR NEXT COMMISSION MEETING ON THE DATA CENTERS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I NEED TO REVIEW IT. 
          I, I SENT MARK MINE. 
          MARK THEN MELDED THE TWO. 
          OH, HE'S ALREADY DONE IT. 
          YEAH, HE ALREADY DID IT. 
          NOT THIS MEETING, BUT THE FOLLOWING MEETING. 
          GREAT. 
          NOT THIS WEDNESDAY, CLEARLY. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT THE NEXT ONE WE CAN, I THINK, PRESENT IT FOR, UH, COMMISSION REVIEW. 
          AND IN FACT, IT MAY BE BEST THAT MARK ALREADY SEND IT OUT TO THE COMMISSION, UH, SO THEY HAVE TIME TO DIGEST IT. 
          I'LL TALK TO HIM AFTER THIS MEETING AND ASK HIM TO DO THAT. 
          UM, DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT AT, AT A CITY COMMISSION MEETING? OR YOU WANT TO HAVE A NO, NO, NO. 
          YOU HAVE AN AT A CITY COMMISSION MEETING. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I MEAN, IF POSSIBLE, IF WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AS WELL, I MEAN, WE, BASED ON OUR VISIT TO RED OAK, UM, I ALREADY WENT THROUGH THEIR, UM, RECOMMENDED I GUESS THE, THE LANGUAGE THAT THEY HAVE IN THE ORDINANCE. 
          AND I THINK WE ACTUALLY GOT VERY VALUABLE FEEDBACK ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO INCORPORATE. 
          AND SO I THINK MARK'S APPROACH TO DO A PD DISTRICT, THAT'S THE WAY TO GO. 
          THAT'S THE SAME, UH, APPROACH THAT THEY'RE USING. 
          BUT THERE WERE SOME BASIC, BASIC CONDITIONS OR STANDARDS THAT THEY ALSO NEED TO MEET. 
          SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE INCORPORATE THOSE. 
          THERE ARE SOME, SO SOME REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK IN TERMS OF, UM, ENSURING, UH, THE APPRAISED VALUE AND THINGS LIKE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, MOVING FORWARD. 
          SO I THINK IF HAVING ANA KIND OF COMB THROUGH THAT, UH, IS GONNA BE IMPORTANT 'CAUSE MARK WASN'T THERE. 
          AND THEN SO SHE CAN COLLABORATE WITH MARK TO, TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE PROTECTED, NOT JUST WHAT IT IS THAT WE WANT IN TERMS OF THE, OF THE COMMUNITY AND PROXIMITY AND ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS. 
          UH, BUT ALSO, UH, LONG-TERM, LONG-TERM IMPACTS FOR THE CITY. 
          AND SO I THINK IF, IF, IF ANA CAN LOOK AT IT, SHE CAN GIVE US FEEDBACK ON THAT AS WELL. 
          CAN YOU SEND IT TO HER TOO? I'LL HAVE MARK'S SENT. 
          SEND IT OUT TO EVERYBODY. 
          I'LL HAVE HIM SENT YOU A COPY. 
          YOU HAVEN'T SEEN HIS VERSION YET, HAVE YOU? YES, YOU HAVE. 
          OKAY. 
          I RECEIVED A COPY OF IT A COUPLE DAYS AGO. 
          YOU'VE SENT, YOU'VE SEEN DANIEL'S COPY? NO, I DIDN'T SEND IT TO ANA. 
          NO. 
          YEAH, SEND, IF YOU COULD SEND IT, SEND IT TO ANA. 
          NO, NO. 
          MARK HAS ALREADY, 
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MARK WILL SEND YOU THE COPY. 
          THE FINAL PROPOSED. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, I THINK THAT WE ALL AGREE THAT, UM, UPDATING THE ZONING ORDINANCE IS GONNA BE, UH, A SHORT TERM NUMBER ONE PRIORITY UNLESS ANYBODY THINKS SOMETHING ELSE NEEDS TO BE BEFORE THAT WE'RE GOOD. 
          UH, LEMME SEE. 
          IN TERMS OF LAND USE, CORRECT. 
          SOMETHING I WAS THINKING, AND MAYBE IT'S NOT A NECESSARILY PLANNING ISSUE, UH, BUT YOU MENTIONED EVEN HERE ON YOUR SECOND BOX MEDICAL DISTRICT, DO WE HAVE A CERTIFIED MEDICAL OR AN ACTUAL IDENTIFIED MEDICAL DISTRICT? UH, NO, IT'S JUST THE GENERAL LOCATION AND IT'S, IT'S INFORMAL. 
          IT, IT HASN'T BEEN DESIGNATED. 
          SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK OUT WITH THE EDC. 
          I WOULD LIKE, UH, THE PLANNING TO CONSIDER DESIGNATING DIFFERENT DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY JUST FOR NAMING ISSUES. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO YOU'D HAVE YOUR DOWNTOWN DISTRICT, RIGHT. 
          AND WE KIND OF ALREADY HAVE ONE, RIGHT? BUT YOU'D HAVE YOUR DOWNTOWN DISTRICT, YOU'D HAVE YOUR MEDICAL DISTRICT, YOU COULD HAVE YOUR WEST SIDE RETAIL DISTRICT OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, FOR THAT AREA OF STEWARD PLACE THAT'S DEVELOPING THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          I THINK THE UNIVERSITY WANTED SOMETHING, REMEMBER A WHILE BACK. 
          CORRECT. 
          IT WOULD BE HELPFUL. 
          BUT I LIKE, I LIKE THE IDEA OF LIKE, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO MAKE THAT THE NAME OF IT, LIKE THE MEDICAL DISTRICT, BUT YOU CAN HAVE A NAME FOR IT. 
          LIKE I ALWAYS LIKED, YOU KNOW, MIDTOWN DOWNTOWN, THE HEIGHTS RICE VILLAGE. 
          AND THEN YOU KIND OF KNEW EXACTLY WHAT AREA OF HOUSTON YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          I KNOW WITH AUSTIN, SAN ANTONIO, THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME THING. 
          SO, SO, SO FOR EXAMPLE, SO THAT COULD BE LIKE, UH, IT COULD BE A PD DISTRICT FOR MEDICAL, RIGHT? A MEDICAL DISTRICT. 
          AND SO WE HAVE PROJECT ORGANIC, WHICH IS COMING UP TO Y'ALL SOON MM-HMM . 
          AND SO IF WE HAD ALREADY THAT PD DISTRICT IN PLACE, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME IN AND INDIVIDUALLY ZONE FOR THAT PARTICULAR TRACK. 
          SO REMEMBER THE LAST CHALLENGE WE HAD WAS WHEN THE UNIVERSITY WANTED THEIR OWN DISTRICT AND IT WAS THE MEDICAL DISTRICT IN THE SAME LOCATION. 
          SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT CAREFULLY. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I LEAVE THAT TO YOU GUYS. 
          YOU KNOW, I LEAVE IT TO Y'ALL TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS, RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE EVENTUALLY WE'RE GONNA CREATE LIKE AN ART DISTRICT AND ALL THAT. 
          SO I THINK THAT, UM, THAT COULD BE A MIDTERM. 
          UM, YEAH, THAT WORKS A MIDTERM PLAN IN TERMS OF HAVING DESIGNATED DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          I REALLY LIKE THAT IDEA. 
          AND I THINK IT KIND OF, UM, SEPARATES THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, HARLINGEN FROM THE REST OF THE REGION IN TERMS OF, UM, MODERNIZING AND MM-HMM . 
          GROWING. 
          AND SO, UH, WE ALREADY KIND OF HAVE THEM INFORMALLY, PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE, BUT NOT PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIVE HERE. 
          WHAT IS YOUR, THE NEIGHBORHOOD YOU GREW UP IN? THEY HAD A NAME FOR IT THAT I HAD NEVER HEARD OF. 
          UH, WHAT'S IT CALLED? THEY DOWN THE ONE THAT ACROSS THE STREET. 
          LA GUADALUPE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          RIGHT? WELL, ACTUALLY NO, I SPOT IT. 
          IT'S, UH, GUADALUPE ON ACROSS THE STREET. 
          THAT'S WHY THE STREET IS SO WIDE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN THAT STREET IT, BECAUSE IT'S SO WIDE, LIKE YOUR HUSBAND. 
          YEAH. 
          I DON'T MEAN TO MAKE THAT, BUT WE GREW UP ON DOWNTOWN THE STREET'S SO WIDE, SO THAT'S LA GUADALUPE. 
          AND THEN ACROSS SAVALA IT'S LAA. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, SO YOU WOULDN'T KNOW THAT. 
          BUT WE KNEW THAT BECAUSE WE WERE GROWN UP TO KNOW THAT. 
          I MEAN, WE WERE TOLD YEAH. 
          I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS CAMPAIGNING. 
          I'D NEVER HEARD THAT, BUT I WAS LIKE, THAT'S PRETTY COOL. 
          YEAH. 
          AT AT LEAST NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE THOSE NAMES. 
          WE DO THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT WE, WE GREW UP KNOWING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS . 
          WE DID. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          LIKE IF YOU, YOU'RE HERE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE FROM HERE, YOU KIND OF KNOW THOSE THINGS, BUT IT'S, IT'S PART OF THE, THE HISTORY OF PARLIN AND KIND OF FORMALIZING DIFFERENT AREAS WOULD BE COOL. 
          WOULD BE NICE. 
          WE ARE COOL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, SO DESIGNATE DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          THAT'S A MIDTERM, UH,  YOU, UH, SO BACK TO LAND, UH, LAND USE, YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT HERE. 
          NUMBER TWO, IDENTIFY AND MAP KEY REDEVELOPMENT SITES CITYWIDE SUCH AS UNDERUTILIZED COMMERCIAL PARCELS ALONG MAJOR CORRIDORS, VACANT PROPERTY IN AND AROUND DOWNTOWN UNDERUSED SITES IN THE MEDICAL DISTRICT. 
          AND AGING RETAIL CENTERS WITH LARGE PARKING LOTS SUITABLE FOR INFILL. 
          SO ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK I HAD TALKED TO YOU ABOUT GABE, AND I THINK WE JUST KIND OF DIDN'T REALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, SO MANY DIFFERENT PRIORITIES. 
          WE DIDN'T CIRCLE BACK TO IT, BUT I THINK SAN ANTONIO, IT MIGHT BE, AND YOU MIGHT LOOK AT THEIRS, UM, UH, THEY, I THINK THEY HAVE IT VIA ORDINANCE, ANNA, BUT WHAT I THINK WHAT 
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THEY'VE DONE IS THEY'VE TAKEN AN INVENTORY OF ALL OF THE BUILDINGS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND ALL VACANT BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED. 
          AND IF THEY ARE VACANT, THEY HAVE TO PAY A FEE FOR BEING VACANT. 
          AND THEN THEY HAVE TO BE OBVIOUSLY UP TO CODE REGISTRY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THERE IS, AND SO THERE IS AN INCENTIVE PACKAGE TO REDEVELOP THOSE SPACES, BUT THEY ARE IDENTIFIED. 
          SO AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT, YOU KNOW WHICH PROPERTIES THAT ARE THROUGHOUT THE CITY, UM, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, TO, TO KIND OF IDENTIFY THOSE DILAPIDATED BUILDINGS AND WHAT NEEDS TO, I KNOW YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB IN YOUR, IN YOUR DISTRICT AND, AND TRYING TO CONDEMN CERTAIN ONES SO THAT WAY WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND, AND BEAUTIFY THOSE AREAS. 
          BUT I THINK WE NEED A PLAN ACROSS THE CITY TO IDENTIFY THOSE. 
          UM, AND HAVING PROPERTY OWNERS DO THEIR PART, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION WANTS TO DO. 
          I'D LIKE TO LEARN MORE. 
          ME TOO. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IF YOU WANNA LOOK TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING OVER THERE, UM, AND THEN I THINK THAT THEY SET ASIDE SOME, SOME, SOME DOLLARS AT SOME POINT TO TRY TO REVITALIZE THOSE AREAS FOR THE, FOR THE OWNERS THAT WERE WILLING TO PARTICIPATE. 
          KIND OF LIKE THE PRESERVATION MM-HMM . 
          DEAL THAT YOU'RE DOING. 
          SO IF WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT. 
          UM, BUT I ALSO, I MEAN, IT'S NOT JUST A CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD. 
          I LOOKED TO SEE THAT THEY WERE DOING OVER THERE AND THEN I DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, FOLLOW, FOLLOW THROUGH WITH, UM, THAT SPECIFIC, UH, RESEARCH AND WHAT THEY WERE DOING. 
          BUT IT'D BE INTERESTING IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHEN THEY STARTED, UM, AND HOW IT'S IMPROVED, UH, THEIR, THEIR COMMUNITY, IF AT ALL. 
          AND THAT'S KIND OF ONE OF THE ISSUES, RIGHT, THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO TACKLE HERE, IS TO IDENTIFY AREAS THAT NEED TO BE IMPROVED. 
          'CAUSE THAT MIGHT BE ONE WAY TO, TO GO ALONG DOING THAT. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THIS ROLANDO, BUT IT'S THIS, IT'S BASICALLY, UM, WHAT SHE HAS HERE AS, UH, RANKED NUMBER TWO IN THE SHORT TERM. 
          AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, SO LIKE, NOT EVERYTHING THERE, BUT YEAH, I COULD JUST SAY IDENTIFY AND IDENTIFY AND MAP KEY TO REDEVELOPMENT SITES CITYWIDE AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'S ONE WAY THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT. 
          YOLANDA, WHAT, WHAT YOU CAN DO IS JUST PUT DOWN LU DASH TWO AND WE'LL KNOW WHICH ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SO WE CAN OH NO, ON THIS ONE IT'S MUCH DIFFERENT. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THIS ONE'S MUCH DIFFERENT. 
          MY NOTES ARE LAND USE IS ONE. 
          YEAH. 
          SEPARATE. 
          AND I, I'VE GOT THE ISSUES WITH THE VACANT BUILDINGS THAT I'M GONNA INCLUDE. 
          THIS IS WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY TO, TO HELP ROLANDO IS ONE THROUGH FOUR HERE, YOU'RE FINE WITH, RIGHT? IS EVERYONE FINE WITH ONE THROUGH FOUR ON PAGE ONE OF THIS CHART? I, I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW, IS ANYONE UP? AND I THINK WE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA PUT IT LIKE ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER OF LONG TERM, JUST SAY PAGE ONE, GOOD TO GO, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          JUST SO YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO, WELL, THIS, WE HAVE THIS, BUT THIS IS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE LISTENING IN TO THE WORKSHOP. 
          THAT'S WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SO YOU WANT 'EM TO WRITE DOWN EACH ONE OF THESE THINGS? NO, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE, WE NEED TO, WE, WE CAN, WE CAN JUST IDENTIFY THEM, UM, ON THE RECORD. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT WAY, BUT, BUT I AGREE IT, I MEAN, UM, AT THIS POINT FOR THE UN FOR THE, UH, LONG TERM, UM, OR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UNLESS THINGS ARE SHIFTING FROM WHAT'S BEING LISTED HERE, I DON'T THINK YOU NECESSARILY NEED TO WRITE THEM, WRITE THEM ALL DOWN. 
          I AGREE THAT BECAUSE THESE ARE SHORT TERM AND MIDTERM. 
          SO YOU, YOU SAID PAGE ONE, THAT'S WHAT I'M JUST SAYING. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST PAGE ONE. 
          GOOD TO GO SO THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO WRITE DOWN EACH ONE OF THESE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          GOT IT. 
          SO THE, ARE WE GOING TO SHARE THIS ONLINE? UM, NO. 
          WELL, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          NO, THE, THE ITEMS THAT ARE HERE ARE ALREADY ONLINE. 
          THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS HOW THEY'RE ARRANGED IN PRIORITY FOR US. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, ONCE WE GET THIS, IT'LL BE ON THE AGENDA FOR US TO APPROVE AND THAT DOCUMENT WILL BE ON. 
          OKAY. 
          THEN I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO, UM, IS THERE QUESTIONS FOR ANA REGARDING THE MID, MEDIUM OR MIDTERM, UH, PRIORITIES? YES OR NO? NO. 
          NO EDITS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THEN MOVING ON. 
          SO WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT. 
          ROLANDO, JUST LIKE, UM, DANIEL SAID I WAS MAKING IT MORE COMPLICATED THAN IT NEEDED TO BE, UM, FOR HOUSING ALLOWING ACCESSORY ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS 
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IN SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICTS. 
          CAN YOU EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT? UM, ANNA? YEAH. 
          SO CURRENTLY ACCESSORY USES SUCH AS LIKE A CARPORT OR A GARAGE ARE ALLOWED IN THE, IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. 
          AND SO THIS ONE WE DO HAVE LIKE THE IN-LAWS QUARTERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, LIKE REQUESTS LIKE THAT. 
          AND SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IF WE'RE GONNA ALLOW THEM, THAT WE HAVE SOME STANDARDS, DESIGN STANDARDS ON HOW THEY SHOULD LOOK LIKE. 
          UM, AND SO WHILE WE ARE WORKING ON THE SUNNING ORDINANCE UPDATE, WE CAN INCORPORATE THOSE STANDARDS. 
          SO THERE WAS A, LIKE WHEN I FIRST CAME ON BOARD, AND I THINK DANIEL TACKLED IT, THERE WAS ALL THESE ISSUES WITH PEOPLE WANTING TO GET CARPORTS. 
          I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO BE MORE BURDENSOME ON, UH, DO YOU REMEMBER THAT? YEAH. 
          COMMISSIONER MORALES AND I WENT AT IT, UH, TACKLED THIS, LIKE YOU SAID. 
          UH, AND BACK THEN THEY DID A GOOD JOB OF JOSH, IN FACT WAS THE ONE THAT HELPED US. 
          HE DID A GOOD JOB OF KIND OF, UH, MAKING IT EASIER FOR RESIDENTS TO GET TO BUILD THEM BECAUSE IT WAS PRETTY STRENUOUS, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE WE HAVE, UH, WE'RE ON THE GULF, THE, THE GULF COAST, WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH LIKE WIND FACTORS THAT HEAD  COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          WE, WE MADE IT AS EASY AS WE POSSIBLY COULD WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE LAW. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I WANNA CONTINUE ON THAT PA I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THAT, THAT WE HAVE TO REVISIT AND THERE THOSE ISSUES AGAIN. 
          GOOD POINT. 
          THAT WAS THE ONLY THING ON TERMS OF LIKE ACCESSORY TYPE. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT EASIER, MORE PREDICTABLE. 
          OKAY. 
          MAYOR. 
          BUT I, I THINK ON THIS ONE ITEM, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT ANY ACCESSORY BUILDING THAT HAS WATER, UH, SEWER BEDROOMS, NOT HAVE A SEPARATE METER BECAUSE THEN THEY'LL BE ABLE TO RENT THOSE OUT. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID. 
          I THINK THEY HAVE TO HAVE ONE METER THAT GOES FROM THE HOUSE TO THAT BUILDING. 
          OH YEAH. 
          WITHOUT, WITHOUT, WITHOUT QUESTION. 
          I THINK. 
          'CAUSE OTHERWISE THEY'LL BE RENTED OUT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER ISSUE I'VE BEEN MEANING TO KIND OF REVISIT TOO. 
          UM, AND IT NEEDS TO BE IN OUR PLAN IN TERMS OF RENTALS. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT WE HAD AGREED THAT WE WERE, DID WE GET SOME SOFTWARE OR SOMETHING? I DON'T REMEMBER. 
          UM, BUT WE WERE NOT COLLECTING REVENUE FOR THE AIRBNB TYPE OF SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          AND THEN WE ADOPTED SOMETHING. 
          BUT THERE'S REALLY NO CONSEQUENCE IF NO ONE SIGNS, NO ONE IS REPORTING. 
          RIGHT. 
          IT'S THROUGH AVENUE. 
          SO WE, WE HIRED AVENUE TO DO THE SHORT TERM RENTAL, UH, SIGN UP, BUT YEAH. 
          CORRECT. 
          THERE'S NO TEETH TO ENFORCE IT. 
          SO THAT NEEDS BE RIGHT. 
          IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, UM, YEAH, SO WE DO HAVE SOFTWARE TO COLLECT THE TAXES FOR THE CITY TAX FOR THE SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          AND THEY ARE SENDING THEM LETTERS AND EMAILS TO PAY THAT. 
          BUT IF THEY DON'T PAY IT, THEY, THEY ARE SENDING THEM DELINQUENT BILLS, BUT THERE IS NO REALLY, UM, LIKE THEY WON'T GET IN TROUBLE ENFORCEMENT. 
          THEY DON'T ENFORCE. 
          SO CAN WE IN CAN, AND, AND THIS MIGHT BE A MARK QUESTION OR YOU'VE GOT QUITE A FEW. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NO, NO. 
          WE, WE SEND THIS SUGGEST CASSANDRA AND I CAN TACKLE, TACKLE THIS. 
          THAT JUST NEEDS TO GET DONE. 
          SO THAT WAY WE ARE, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE GOAL IS TO BE ABLE TO COLLECT AND IF WE'RE JUST SENDING OUT CI, YOU KNOW, NOT EVEN CITATIONS, IT'S JUST DELINQUENT NOTICES. 
          JUST MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE PLAN IS COMPLETE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH, ROLANDO FOR THIS THEN IT'LL BE SHORT TERM THREE STR ENFORCEMENT. 
          I LIKE THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          NOW I'VE BEEN GO INTO SEMINARS ON THIS AS WELL, SO YEAH. 
          AND THIS IS SHORT TERM. 
          YEAH, NO PROBLEM. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO SHORT TERM'S DEFINED AS, UH, NO. 
          IN THE, IN THE GOAL 30 TO, YEAH. 
          30 DAYS OR LESS UP HERE IN THE FIRST ONE. 
          YEAH. 
          WHAT DID YOU SAY? STR WHAT? ENFORCEMENT. 
          ENFORCEMENT. 
          YEAH. 
          SHORT TERM. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN YOU AND CASSANDRA WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, THE OTHER THING I DON'T SEE ON HERE, AND I REALLY WANNA JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO TO, TO, AND I WISH THAT MIKE WAS HERE TOO, BUT, UM, IN TERMS OF HOUSING, UM, I THINK WHEN WE HAD THE, THE CONSULTANT KIND OF GO THROUGH AND, AND EVALUATE OUR HOUSING, IT'S ESSENTIAL THAT WE HAVE HOUSING AT ALL PRICE POINTS AND ALL TYPES OF HOUSING. 
          THE, THERE'S BEEN LOTS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, DEVELOPMENT. 
          THERE'S, IT'S KIND OF AN EX, EX EXPLOSIVE, UM, DEVELOPMENT, I WOULD SAY IN, IN SUBDIVISIONS ALL ACROSS THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE WHEN THESE DEVELOPMENTS COME BEFORE THIS COMMISSION, THAT IT IS OUTLINED WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE IN LINE WITH OUR COMP PLAN. 
          AND IT IS A GOAL, UM, IN THE, IN THE LARGER STUDY OF IT ALL, THAT WE, WE NEED APARTMENTS, WE NEED TOWNHOUSES, WE NEED A SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. 
          WE NEED MORE HOUSING. 
          AND SO WHEN WE'RE TURNING AWAY HOUSING, WE'RE NOT WORKING TOWARDS THAT GOAL. 
          SO I DON'T THINK IT'S, IT'S PRESENTED FROM STAFF IN THAT WAY WHEN IT COMES TO US ON HOW IT ALIGNS WITH OUR, UM, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          BUT WE, WE NEED TO BE 
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COGNIZANT OF THAT WHEN WE ARE, UM, VOTING IN TERMS OF PROJECTS MOVING, MOVING FORWARD JUST BASED ON SMART, THE TYPE OF, OF, OF, OF HOUSING IT IS, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME IN DISTRICT FIVE, WE'VE HAD SOME IN DISTRICT. 
          I MEAN IN ALL EXCEPT YOUR DISTRICT. 
          YOUR DISTRICT IS SO GREAT. 
          THEY ALWAYS WANT ALL ALL THINGS. 
          AND SO I ALWAYS SAY THAT, THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WELCOME GROWTH, BUT SOMETIMES IT'S NOT THAT WAY IN ALL AREAS. 
          I THINK THE GARDEN HOMES, WE, WE, WE, AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALREADY DONE AND IT'S ALREADY DONE, BUT WE SHOT DOWN, UM, THOSE, THOSE GARDEN HOMES, I THINK IT WAS IN YOUR DISTRICT. 
          AND I THINK THAT THAT WAS A, A DISSERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE NEED TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL HOUSING. 
          YEAH. 
          GOOD. 
          I AGREE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT IS SHORT TERM, UM, GOAL IS THAT THERE, WE PUT A POLICY IN PLACE WHERE WHEN WE ARE PRESENTING TO THE COMMISSION HOW THE DEVELOPMENT ALIGNS WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, CREATE AND RE A REUSE AND REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR VIA VISTA MALL. 
          I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE EDC ON THIS ALREADY. 
          UM, I THINK WE JUST PROBABLY NEED TO LOOP IN, UM, MAYBE UPDATING THE COMMISSION ON, ON THAT. 
          BUT I DO THINK THAT THAT IS A, A CLEAR GOAL. 
          IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE HAVING ON OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THOUGH? THAT'S WHAT, YES. 
          IT'S FROM THE COMP PLAN. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE HAVING? HOW CAN I SAY? LIKE, UM, SO THIS IS THE GOAL OF THE CITY COMMISSION, BUT THE CITY COMMISSION DOESN'T TRULY HAVE THE, I THINK WE NEED TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA ABOUT THAT JUST SO WE CAN DISCUSS IT, BECAUSE I GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. 
          I I EVEN GET QUESTIONS FROM MY STUDENTS,  YES. 
          UM, ABOUT THE MALL. 
          AND I HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO 'EM LIKE, 'CAUSE I KNOW NORMAN AND I MET WITH SOME PEOPLE AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN MORE. 
          'CAUSE THE AVERAGE PERSON DOES NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THE CITY JUST DOESN'T GO THERE AND START BUILDING ALL THESE THINGS AT THE VALLEY VISTA MALL. 
          SO I THINK WE NEED TO PUT IT MAYBE ON THE AGENDA THEN HAVE, YOU KNOW, EITHER, EITHER ORLANDO EXPLAIN IT OR SOMEBODY EXPLAIN WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE VALLEY VISTA BALL. 
          NOT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT IT TO, TO DEVELOP, BUT THERE'S LIMITATIONS. 
          I'LL ORLANDO MAKE A PRESENTATION. 
          I AGREE. 
          BUT WE NEED TO LET THE, THE, THE, THE PUBLIC KNOW WHY. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IT IS, ALTHOUGH IT IS IN OUR PLAN, THE EXECUTION OF IT IS NOT IN OUR HANDS. 
          CORRECT. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO IT GOES IN A SHORT TERM, UH, IT'S IN THE SHORT TERM, A MAYOR PLAN ADOPTED TO IMPLEMENT AND, AND, AND PLANNED PLAN, ADOPTED IMPLEMENTATION INITIATED. 
          AND, AND ARE YOU SAYING THAT IN, IN TERMS OF A PLAN DEVELOPMENT WITH THE CITY? WELL, THAT ONE, IT'S A REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THAT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TO BE FUNDED BY THE EDC. 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT OBVIOUSLY IT'S OUT OF, OUT OF THE CITY'S HAND, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE PROPERTY. 
          BUT AT LEAST TO PERCENT HAVE SOMETHING, SOME STRATEGY IN PLACE TO PRESENT TO WHOMEVER COMES IN AND ASK FOR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IF THEY HAVE ANY INTEREST OR MAYBE THAT'S HOW THE EDC SELLS THAT DEVELOPMENT, UH, THAT PLAN IS USUALLY WHAT KIND OF HELPS THEM DO THAT. 
          COULD YOU ASKA TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THE SECOND MEETING IN MARCH? MM-HMM . 
          YES. 
          I'LL ASK THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, PREPARE SHOVEL READY SITES WITH ZONING AND UTILITIES TO ATTRACT INDUSTRY. 
          UM, THAT HAS BEEN A REAL ISSUE TOO, RIGHT? TO ENSURE DEVELOPMENT, UM, CAN HAPPEN BASED ON WHETHER, WHETHER OR NOT IT IS FEASIBLE. 
          THAT'S MORE KIND OF LIKE IN YOUR DISTRICT, LIKE THE INDUSTRIAL PARK AREA, THE 84, THAT'S WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT, THE UTILITY MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND IN FACT, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, I, I WAS READING THAT, UH, TRUMP'S UH, PRESIDENT TRUMP'S, UH, ECONOMIC ZONES OR ENTERPRISE ENTERPRISE ZONES IS COMING UP AGAIN FOR RE-DESIGNATION. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO THAT. 
          SHE'S ON 5 85. 
          WHAT ABOUT THE WAY IT'S A COMBINATION OF, YEAH. 
          UM, MAYOR, JUST JUST SO YOU KNOW, THIS ISSUE WAS BROUGHT UP BY TIP STRATEGIES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THEY DID AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STUDY, I'M GUESSING 2006. 
          AND ONE OF THE PRIORITIES THEY MENTIONED WAS GETTING SIDE, UM, SHUTTLE GARDEN FOR DEVELOPERS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, THEY ALSO DID, UH, DID A LEAKAGE ANALOGOUS ANALYSIS AT THAT TIME. 
          AND IT WAS REPORTED THAT WE WERE LEAKING OUT $360 MILLION A YEAR. 
          WOW. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UM, THIS IS A, THIS HAS BEEN A PROBLEM. 
          I MEAN, FROM DAY ONE. 
          SO WHAT, WHAT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO DO IS PART OF THE PLAN. 
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UM, AND I KNOW THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE WHAT'S HAPPENING, I DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN, BUT WE NEED THE EDC TO PRESENT TO THE COMMISSION, UM, ON WHAT THE PLANS ARE MOVING, MOVING FORWARD. 
          I CAN HAVE ROLANDA LOOK AT THESE PRIORITIES AND JUST PRESENT ON WHAT HE'S GOT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IT, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE BOARD THAT YOU, THAT YOU HAVE, RIGHT? LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TWO SCHOOLS OF THOUGHT, RIGHT? LIKE, YOU WAIT FOR THE DEVELOPERS TO COME TO GET EVERYTHING DONE, OR YOU HAVE THEM READY TO GO. 
          UM, AND, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW, IF IT'S SHIFTED AT ALL WITHIN THE BOARD, TO BE HONEST, YOU GO TO MORE OF THE MEETINGS TO THE EDC, ARE THEY MORE INCLINED TO HAVE IT READY TO GO, UM, AND PUT IN THE UTILITIES AND GET IT, YOU KNOW, SHOVEL READY FOR A PROJECT? OR THEY WAIT FOR THE DEVELOPER TO COME IN AND THEN SHARE IN THE COST OR? I THINK THAT THERE'S, MY, MY IMPRESSION IS THERE'S BEEN A PHILOSOPHICAL SHIFT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ROOSEVELT INDUSTRIAL PARK. 
          MM-HMM. 
          BECAUSE WE'RE PUTTING IN MOST OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, IF NOT ALL OF IT. 
          UH, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO VERIFY AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH 'EM AGAIN. 
          SO I THINK IT'D BE GOOD FOR THEM TO KIND OF TELL US WHAT, WHAT THEIR, UM, WHAT THEIR PLAN IS MOVING, MOVING FORWARD. 
          SO THAT WAY IT ALIGNS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          IF I RECALL CORRECTLY THE LAST TIME I ASKED THEM ABOUT THIS SPECIFICALLY MM-HMM . 
          UH, ORLANDO D YEAH. 
          UH, ORLANDO SAID THAT HE WAS WAITING FOR OUR PLAN TO COME OUT AND THEN THE AIRPORT'S GONNA BE DOING THEIR PLAN AND THEN, UH, A D C'S GONNA UPDATE THEIR PLAN. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I THINK THEY'RE IN FLU, NOT NECESSARILY IN FLUX, BUT YOU KNOW. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL I KNOW BECAUSE, UM, NOW THERE'S, UH, DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT BOARD MEMBERS BEFORE WHEN I FIRST CAME ON BOARD IT, YOU KNOW, SAME. 
          YEAH, EXACTLY. 
          THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING I THINK THE TRANSITION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YEAH. 
          SO WE JUST NEED TO, JUST TO REVISIT THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY IMPROVE INTERSECTIONS WITH HIGH CRASH RATES USING SAFETY AUDITS. 
          TIME OUT. 
          OKAY. 
          ARE WE NOT MOVING ON PAGE TWO? UH, I THINK WE'RE GOOD TO GO, CORRECT? YES. 
          YES SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE CAN, YEAH. 
          PUT THAT IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT, BRIAN. 
          I AGREE. 
          SO TRANSPORTATION, IMPROVE INTERSECTIONS WITH HIGH CRASH RATES USING SAFETY AUDITS. 
          THIS IS A MIDTERM GOAL. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY SHORT TERM GOALS? ANA? SO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE MOBILITY MASTER PLAN, WHICH IS GONNA COME UP, I THINK THAT'S GONNA HELP US COVER ALL OF THOSE. 
          YES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO PUT THEM, UM, I GUESS MEDIUM AND LONG TERM. 
          OKAY. 
          OH, THEY'RE NOT KIND OF IN ORDER, THAT'S WHY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          I MEAN ALL OF THESE ARE IMPORTANT AND KIND OF GO, THEY ARE IN LINE WITH THE PLAN, SO I THINK THOSE WILL BE ADOPTED. 
          SAME PAGE THREE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YOU GUYS GOOD TO GO? YES. 
          ANY OBJECTIONS? THEY GO EXACTLY FROM THE THE PLAN? YES. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND SO THEN WE ARE GOOD RO UH, ROLANDO WITH THE ITEMS ON PAGE THREE. 
          YO ACTUALLY ON PAGE, YEAH. 
          FOUR JUST SO WE CAN, IT'S UP BY THE TOP. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M ALREADY TALKING TO, UH, ANNA AND MARK ABOUT CONTINUING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE T STREET, UH, THE T STREET MULTIMODAL CENTER. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN FINISH THAT UP. 
          T STREET. 
          WHAT AGAIN, WHAT DANIEL MULTIMODAL CENTER. 
          REMEMBER THE TRANSIT CENTER? , YOU REMEMBER ? DON'T REMEMBER. 
          IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS, RIGHT? LIKE YEAH, IT'S, ONCE I HEARD THAT WORD, I STARTED HEARING IT A LOT. 
          SO THAT'S THE REASON TRANSIT TERMINAL. 
          TRANS TRANSIT TERMINAL IS THE OTHER WAY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, UH, STAFF DID A PHENOMENAL JOB IN GETTING IT TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. 
          CORRECT. 
          IF WE HAD BEEN WAITING FOR THE NM PO TO DO IT, YOU WOULD STILL BE WAITING FOR THEM TO BUY THE PROPERTY. 
          YEAH. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO THEN, OKAY. 
          UM, MOVING FORWARD TO INFRASTRUCTURE, INFRASTRUCTURE AND UTILITIES, YOU WANNA LOOK THROUGH THOSE? YEAH. 
          ON U NINE A SECOND FROM THE BOTTOM, ANNA? MM-HMM . 
          I LOVE THAT. 
          I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC. 
          IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO DO, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC'S HARDENED INFRASTRUCTURE AGAINST STREAM WEATHER EVENTS. 
          UH, A PIVOTAL MOMENT IN MY LIFE WAS HURRICANE DOLLY AND I HAD TO COUCH SURF FOR TWO WEEKS 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE POWER FOR THAT LINE. 
          UH, HOW DO YOU ENVISION US DOING THIS? I MEAN, IT'S JUST A GENERAL POLICY AT THIS POINT. 
          SO I THAT'S PART OF THE RESEARCH THAT WE HAVE TO 
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DO NOW. 
          SO IS THERE, SO, BUT THIS IS LIKE GENERATORS MAKING SURE THAT THIS REDUNDANCY IN THE, YOU KNOW, THE SYSTEMS FOR EACH BUILDING, UH, WHICH ONES ARE GONNA BE DESIGNATED TO BE OPEN IN CASE OF AN EMERGENCY OR , HURRICANE, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO, SO THIS IS ONLY, WHEN YOU SAY HARD AND INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ONLY CITY INFRASTRUCTURE OR LIKE CITY BUILDINGS, CITY FACILITIES. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          AND, AND SO THAT'S WHY THE OUTPUT IS NUMBER OF FACILITIES UPGRADED. 
          AND I THINK IT WOULD INCLUDE WATERWORKS AS WELL. 
          'CAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE IN THIS SECTION. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          AND I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS WOULD BE THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO GENERATORS. 
          AND I THINK THEY MAY HAVE ALREADY ADDRESSED THAT. 
          UH, BUT I'LL DOUBLE CHECK WITH, WITH, UH, WATERWORKS. 
          UH, BECAUSE WHEN WE HAD WINTER STORM URI, UM, THERE WAS A TIME WHERE WE WERE TOUCH AND GO BECAUSE WE HAD TO GET, UH, I THINK WE GOT A GENERATOR FROM THE COUNTY TO HELP US KEEP THE WATER PLANT GOING, UH, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE OUR OWN. 
          AND I THINK NOW WE'VE SINCE, UH, RECEIVED SOME, BUT I'LL DOUBLE CHECK WITH, UH, WITH WATERWORKS. 
          BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS THINK MIKE'S BEEN LEAVING THAT CHURCH FOR WATERWORKS. 
          OH YEAH. 
          WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M THINKING OF THOUGH IS, UH, CITYWIDE, RIGHT? SO WE'RE HAVING THESE NEW DEVELOPMENTS COME IN ON THE WEST SIDE AND THE SOUTH SIDE. 
          I WOULD LIKE US TO SEE WHAT CAN WE REQUIRE THAT WILL HARDEN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS FROM POWER OUTAGES, RIGHT? LIKE, SHOULD WE START BEARING ALL OUR POWER LINES IF THAT BE THE NEW REQUIREMENT? SO NOW BRANCHES AREN'T GONNA BE AN ISSUE THAT WE HAVE IN MY DISTRICT, RIGHT? UH, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          SO HOW CAN WE TAKE A HOLISTIC LOOK? AND I THINK WE NEED TO CREATE A PLAN OF HOW DO WE HARDEN CITYWIDE FOR THESE TYPES OF, UH, EVENTS. 
          I AGREE. 
          UM, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF STUDY. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS LIKE, IF YOU THINK THAT'S THE ROUTE WE NEED TO GO, WE HAVE TO HAVE A STUDY FOR THE CITYWIDE. 
          I KNOW PUBLIC WORKS IS OBVIOUSLY DOING THEIR PART IN, UH, HARDENING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AGAINST RAIN, BUT MM-HMM . 
          JURY WAS ITS OWN MONSTER, RIGHT? AND WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING HEAT ISSUES, SO HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH POWER OR, OR WHATNOT, RIGHT? AND SO THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          SO I DEFINITELY THINK THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO MOVE UP OURS INTO A MEDIUM TERM AT THE VERY LEAST BECAUSE IT'S A REAL CONCERN FOR CITY, UM, UH, FOR OUR OWN INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEN A STUDY IN THE SHORT TERM CITYWIDE. 
          IS THAT, IS THAT RIGHT? I THINK THAT I AGREE. 
          THAT'S I AGREE WITH THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN, UM, ANOTHER THING I'D LIKE TO MOVE UP IS THE MODERNIZING OF THE CITY INFRASTRUCTURE WITH SMART LED STREET LIGHTINGS, UM, ADAPTIVE TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND GREEN STORM WATER FEATURES TO ENHANCE SAFETY EFFICIENCY AND SUSTAINABILITY. 
          UM, I THINK LIGHTING IS A HUGE CONCERN THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE NEED TO DO TO PRIORITIZE THAT, UM, TO ENSURE THE SAFETY WITHIN, UH, MAJOR, UH, THOROUGHFARES AND ALSO WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOODS THEMSELVES. 
          IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ALREADY ON THE NEXT, IT'S ON THE NEXT PAGE, UH, SHORT TERM. 
          I LIKE THE IU, UH, IU 10 THAT YOU HAVE ON IT. 
          UH, THE GREEN STORM WATER FEATURES. 
          RIGHT? I KNOW THAT, UH, DANNY'S DOING ONE THERE AT, UH, LON HILL, NOT LON HILL MCKELVY. 
          RIGHT. 
          WHICH I, I LOVE IT. 
          AND SO IT'S LIKE, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE TURN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE INTO SOMETHING THAT'S ATTRACTIVE AS WELL? AND WE TURN IT INTO MULTIFACETED ASSETS. 
          SO, SO DID YOU WANT TO BRING IU 10 MARRIED TO SHORT TERM? SO I FEEL LIKE IU UM, TWO AND IU 10 KIND OF BLEND TOGETHER, ANNA. 
          GREAT. 
          SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST THE, THE STREET LIGHTING. 
          IT'S ALL THE LIGHTING THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, UM, AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD OUR SHARE OF, UM, PEDESTRIAN FATALITIES AND, AND, AND, AND I WILL SAY THAT, UM, I KNOW THAT THE CHIEF AND AND PD ARE DOING A GREAT JOB AND, AND I JUST HAD, UH, A MEETING WITH OUR, OUR JUDGE AND SHE SAID THAT THEY'RE REALLY ENFORCING LIKE THE JAYWALKING AND UH, LIKE THEY, THEY, THEY REALLY ARE. 
          SO THEY'RE DOING THEIR PART TO TRY TO PREVENT, UH, PEDESTRIAN FATALITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UH, BUT THE LIGHTING IS A, IS A, IS A HUGE, IS A HUGE ISSUE THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          SO HOW DO WE PRIORITIZE THAT? WHAT IS IT THAT WE NEED TO DO TO ENSURE THAT, UH, WE GET MORE, MORE FUNDING? MORE IS, IT IS. 
          AND SO WHEN WE ARE GONNA MODERNIZE, HOW ARE WE GONNA GO ABOUT DOING THAT? HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET THE FUNDING? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ENVISION THAT WE GET GRANT FUNDING OR WE'RE DOING, WE'RE ALLOCATING MONEY WITHIN THE BUDGET EVERY YEAR TO DO A 
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CERTAIN PORTION. 
          'CAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE DONE LIKE THE SOLAR LIGHTS AND THOSE KIND AND THEN CERTAIN LIGHTS THROUGH, THROUGH SANDY'S DEPARTMENT. 
          BUT THAT'S NOT, I MEAN, WE'RE NEVER GONNA, WE'RE NEVER GONNA FINISH. 
          IF WE, IF, YOU KNOW, BY IN DOING IT IN THAT, IN THAT FASHION, IT'S GREAT. 
          IT'S AN ADDITIONAL BUCKET OF MONEY, BUT IT'S SUCH A HUGE, UH, PRIORITY. 
          HOW ARE WE GOING TO TACKLE IT AND HAVE REAL RESULTS WITHIN THE SHORT TERM. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO WE DO HAVE A GRANT IN PLACE. 
          IT'S ACTUALLY A FORMULA ALLOCATED GRANT FROM THE, THE, THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY. 
          AND SO FOR SOME REASON THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY MOVEMENT ON IT AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. 
          LIKE IT WAS FROZEN FOR A WHILE AND THEN, AND THEN THEY JUST HAVEN'T RESPONDED TO ANY OF THE EMAILS THAT WE HAVE SENT. 
          AND SO THAT ONE WAS, IT'S SUFFICIENT FUNDING TO LIKE, REPLACE, I DON'T KNOW, MORE THAN A THOUSAND LIGHTS, UH, WITHIN THE CITY. 
          AND IT WAS CITYWIDE. 
          AND SO IT WAS A GRANT THAT WE HAD TO GO THROUGH DIFFERENT PHASES AND IT WAS PROBABLY APPROVED, UM, A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO, BUT WE JUST HAVEN'T MOVED FORWARD WITH IT. 
          I THINK THAT ONE UPON IMPLEMENTATION, I THINK IT WAS GONNA UPGRADE ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW, CLOSE TO 50% OF THE LIGHTS, UM, THAT WE HAVE IN THE ENTIRE CITY. 
          SO COULD YOU SEND ME THAT? 'CAUSE THIS IS THE ONE THAT YOU KIND OF SAID ONCE IT'S ALREADY BEEN GRANTED, EVEN IF IT IS FROZEN AND OR WHATEVER, WE, WE HAVE IT, IT'S IN THERE, BUT FOR SOME REASON THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY MOVEMENT. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE LAYOFFS THAT THEY DID AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. 
          UM, BUT ANYWAY, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE, ONCE WE GET THE THE GREEN LIGHT, WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND DO AN MOU WITH A EP. 
          AND A EP IS THE ONE THAT'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE DOING THE WORK. 
          SO IT WOULDN'T BE DONE BY THE CITY. 
          NOW, MY THING TOO IS AS FAR AS LIKE A EP AS A PARTNER, LIKE I, IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THE CONVERSION, UH, TO LE FROM HPS TO LED. 
          AND SO FOR SOME REASON, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVEN'T INITIATED THAT CONVERSATION OR WE HAVEN'T MADE IT A REQUIREMENT, BUT IT'S, IT SHOULD BE ON THEM BECAUSE THIS IS THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          UH, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE CITIES. 
          HOW'S OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM, GABE? LIKE, DO WE HAVE A GOOD RE BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE ANYTIME WE HAVE SOMETHING WITH A P IT TAKES FOREVER. 
          WE HAVE A, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM. 
          UH, OF COURSE THEY'VE CHANGED REPS QUITE A BIT. 
          THIS IS, UH, THE FOURTH REP I WORK WITH FROM AP. 
          UH, AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE THEY, THEY RETIRE. 
          UH, FRANK WAS THE LAST ONE THAT RETIRED AND, AND, UH, GAIL TOOK OVER FOR HIM. 
          SO YEAH, WE, WE DO HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP. 
          I, I TALKED TO A FEW PEOPLE AT A P NOT NECESSARILY FOR THE CITY, BUT A EP SEEMS TO BE RESPONSIVE WHEN I CALL THEM. 
          WELL, AS A CONSTITUENT I WOULD CALL THEM AND , UH, CERTAIN LIGHT AT THE END OF THE CUL-DE-SAC IS OUT. 
          AND I, IT'S BEEN OUT FOR TWO WEEKS AND, UH, AND THEY'D GET IT FIXED AND THEY, THEY WERE REALLY RESPONSIVE, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW THE CITY IS. 
          AND THEY WERE, I ALWAYS WORK WITH THE SAME REP. 
          SO THE NATION'S UTILITY COMPANIES ARE IN NO RUSH TO CONVERT STREETLIGHTS TO LED BECAUSE THAT MEANS THEY SELL LESS, LESS ELECTRICITY AND THAT MEANS LESS CASH FLOW. 
          CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, IF ANA, IF YOU CAN JUST UPDATE US WITH WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, UM, KIND OF OF WHAT, WHAT IS ANTICIPATED IN BEING, UM, TRANSITIONED OR CHANGED? AND I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON THE FUNDING, EXCUSE ME. 
          BEFORE WE, UH, MOVE ON. 
          I WANNA BACKTRACK TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND UTILITIES. 
          UNDER THE FIRST ONE, THE IU, UH, IU EIGHT AND SIX, UPGRADING DRAINAGE SYSTEMS AND FLOOD PRONE NEIGHBORHOODS AND COORDINATE INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES WITH STREET, UH, RECONSTRUCTION PLANS. 
          WE'VE GOT ENGINEERING PUBLIC WORKS. 
          CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT WE ALSO WORK WITH HARING AND WATER WORKS ON BOTH OF THESE. 
          AND THE REASON BEHIND IT IS REDUCING OUR WASTEWATER BACKUP ISSUES THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO WORK WITH. 
          I KNOW THAT IF WE REPAIR THE STREETS OR TAKE CARE OF THE FLOODING, IT, IT WOULD ALSO HELP 'EM OUT. 
          IT WOULD GO TO DIFFERENT AREAS THAT, THAT THEY'RE PRONE TO HAVE SOME BACKWATER ISSUES. 
          SO THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          OTHERWISE, ANYTHING ELSE ON PAGE FOUR? THAT WAS IU SIX, YOU SAID COMMISSIONER? UM, EIGHT AND SIX. 
          EIGHT AND SIX. 
          EIGHT AND SIX. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS OR CHANGES? WE'RE MELDING 10 AND AND TWO, RIGHT? YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW WE'RE GOOD. 
          AND WE'RE GOOD ON PAGE FOUR AS WELL. 
          HONDO. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          MOVING ON TO FIVE. 
          AND PS ONE'S ALSO PART OF THAT ONE, RIGHT? YEP. 
          ENHANCED PUBLIC LIGHTING, CROSSWALKS, ALLEYWAY DESIGNS, CITYWIDE. 
          YEAH. 
          HOLD ON, HANG JUST A SECOND. 
          WE'RE ON PAGE FIVE, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. 
          THANK YOU. 
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DEVELOP AND MONITORS MARTIN GREEN, HARGER. 
          LOVE IT. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE S SIX TO SHORT TERM. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          WHICH IS S SIX IS DEVELOP, UH, WE'RE GONNA PUT, UH, RONALDO QUOTE SMART AND GREEN HARLINGEN END QUOTE. 
          THAT'S, WE CAN JUST PUT THAT AS S SIX. 
          YOU WANT THAT IN THE SHORT TERM? YES, SIR. 
          I WAS GONNA ASK YOU A QUESTION, BUT I I KNOW THE ANSWER. 
          MM-HMM . 
          CAN WE AFFORD IT? AND THE NEXT, AND THE ANSWER IS, THE ANSWER IS WE GOTTA DESIGN IT AND THEN WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT, RIGHT? SO MUCH LIKE WHAT WE DID WITH, UM, THAT OTHER GENTLEMAN IS FIGURING OUT HOW WE CAN OPTIMIZE OUR SAVINGS TO THEN, UH, USE OUR SAVINGS TO OPTIMIZE AND UPDATE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          YOU LIKE STANDARD ELECTRIC? THAT'S THE ONE I'M THINKING OF. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND IN FACT, WHAT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO DO IS ON S SIX INCLUDE PUBLIC WORKS. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU SAID F SIX S SIX, THE SAME ONE WE JUST DISCUSSED. 
          PUBLIC WORKS. 
          ADD PUBLIC WORKS IS A DEPARTMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOPED IN ON THAT ONE ON PUBLIC WORKS AND EVERYTHING. 
          , UH, DFM FOUR, WHICH IS UPDATE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN EVERY 10 YEARS HAVE WE NOT BEEN DOING THAT. 
          AND WHEN YOU SAY UPDATE THE MASTER DRAINAGE, UH, DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE PUBLIC WORKS WORK PLAN OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT LIKE THE CSE PLAN WE JUST GOT? RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          AND SO OBVIOUSLY THAT ONE IS BRAND NEW, BUT WE HAVE TO, I THINK THE LAST TIME WE DID IT WAS IN 2008. 
          YES. 
          SO IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN QUITE A FEW, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN 10 YEARS. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE MIDTERM THEN, SINCE WE JUST SUB IT? NO, THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE. 
          THE, THE THING IS, WE HAVE TO DO IT AT A 10 YEAR INTERVAL SO WE CAN CONSTANTLY GET THE RIGHT FUNDING POSSIBLE. 
          IF WE WAIT TILL YEAR NUMBER 12, IT'LL TAKE ANOTHER TWO, THREE YEARS TO DEVELOP AND WE'RE ON THE HOLDING PATTERN TO GET ANY TYPE OF FUNDING FROM TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT AND BOARD OR ANY OTHER FUNDING. 
          SO 10 YEARS IS, IS RIGHT ON. 
          WE NEED TO STAY ON TOP OF THAT. 
          SO AT YEAR EIGHT, WE NEED TO START WORKING ON THE UPDATED. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SPEAKING OF THIS, UM, HAS ANYBODY WORKED ON THE UPDATED, UH, FEMA PLANTS, UH, PLANS? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN? I, I BELIEVE THE LAST TIME IT WAS REALLY UPDATED WAS BACK IN 19 71, 72 AT BEAH. 
          AND FIND OUT WHERE THE LOW LYING AREAS ARE. 
          ARE TALKING ABOUT THE FLOOD MAPS. 
          YES. 
          I THINK THE FORMER ENGINEER WAS WORKING ON THAT. 
          LUIS, I THINK THE COUNTY'S WORKING ON THAT. 
          ISN'T COMMISSIONER DAVID GARZA SPEARHEAD AND SOMETHING ALONG THAT EXACT LINE. 
          BECAUSE YOU HAVE WHAT, LIKE ZONE X, LIKE I LIVE IN ZONE X, WHICH SHOWS NO FLOODING AND ALL THAT STUFF. 
          YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S THOSE, THOSE WERE UPDATED BACK IN 2008. 
          THAT WAS THE LATEST. 
          AND, AND TECHNICALLY THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE ADOPTED AS A CITY. 
          IT'S IN THE FLOOD PREVENTION ORDINANCE. 
           IS DOING SOMETHING. 
          SOME, YEAH. 
          COMMISSIONER DAVID DOING SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. 
          BUT YEAH, I AGREE WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER MORALES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN UPDATE THOSE AS WELL. 
          GIVEN THE FACT THAT HARLINGEN, UH, AND THE VALLEY IN, IN GENERAL IS TURNING SO MUCH FROM AGRICULTURE TO LIKE RESIDENTIAL AND METROPOLITAN, UH, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SAFE WHEN WE BUILD IN. 
          WE ARE BUILDING NEW NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          BUT, SO WE'LL KEEP THAT THERE, BUT IF WE CAN JUST ADD TO THAT. 
          SO IF WE CAN PUT, UH, ROLANDO FOR DFM FOUR, YOU CAN JUST PUT UH, MIDTERM D AND YOU CAN WRITE DFM FOUR. 
          ALSO UPDATE FLOOD ZONING MAPS EVERY 10 YEARS. 
          OTHERWISE I'M GOOD WITH PAGE FIVE. 
          I KNOW YOU HOPPED IN HERE LATE IN HERE. 
          HOW'S EVERYONE ELSE? AND THEN WE CAN SWING BACK TO THE MAYOR. 
          I'M GOOD. 
          YEP. 
          JUST HOW EXACTLY. 
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ALRIGHT, LAST ONE. 
          REVIS REVIS ZONING TO SUPPORT DRAINAGE SENSITIVE DESIGN. 
          I'M GOOD WITH THAT. 
          SHORT TERM. 
          PERFECT. 
          I THINK WE'RE DONE. 
          WE HAVE LUNCH IN THE EXECUTIVE CHAMBERS FOR ALL YOU GUYS. 
          ALRIGHT, WE ARE. 
          IS THAT IT? YES MA'AM. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          OKAY. 
          WE ARE ADJOURNED. 
          AND WE SEE WE FOLLOWED THROUGH IN OUR PROMISE. 
          YOU DID HAVE LUNCH AND GO HOME OR YOU'RE ME. 
          GO WORK . 
          YOU SAID YOU HAD NO GO WORK. 
          OH, GO WORK. 
          YEAH.
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