* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. IS [00:00:01] THIS THE LATEST ONE? THE ONE THAT, THE ONE THAT WE PRINTED THE OTHER DAY HAS THE LATEST. MY LATEST, RIGHT? YES. OKAY. CHECKED. OH, YOU WHAT? HAVEN TO DRIVE IT. OH, OKAY. YOU SEE? OR CHECK THE TANK YOU IN. I WHAT'D YOU DATE? THE, LIKE I HEARD I KNOW. A LEVEL ONE. LEVEL ONE. I KNOW. THAT'S WHAT I HEARD FROM MY DEPARTMENT. YEAH. SHE CALLS THE TRAIN. YEAH, IT'S PAY HERE IT IS ADDED A HUNDRED THOUSAND. AH, YEAH, WE FOUND IT. WELL, LOOK YOU THEN. YEAH, I WANTED TO . I MEAN, YOU CAN ONLY SPEND ON CERTAIN THINGS. THAT'S GOOD TO HAVE. I KNOW. OR LIKE WE'RE, OH, OKAY. [00:07:43] DID YOU JUST GET HERE OR DID I MISS YOU? I'VE BEEN HERE, FRANK. DAMN. EXCUSE ME. I'M SO FREAKING SOMETIMES. SEE YOU. YOU GOOD? YEAH. SO I GOT DID YOU, DID THEY, DID YOU FILE ALREADY OR [00:14:37] GIMME THE RED ONE? . OKAY. IF WE CAN ALL TAKE OUR SEATS, PLEASE. THE TIME IS NOW 5:34 PM LET'S GET GOING. AND WE WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, UH, AS ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT. SO AT THIS TIME I'LL ASK THAT EVERYONE PLEASE RISE. [00:15:01] AS, UH, COMMISSIONER MORALE LEADS US IN OUR INVOCATION, FATHER, SON, AJOUR FATHER, WE CAN BE, OFFER THEE OUR POOR PRESENCE AND THAT OF THE HALL OF HUMANITY FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END OF THE WORLD, AND ALL THE MASSES THAT EVER HAVE OR EVER WILL BE PRAISED. WE OFFER THE ALL THE PAINS, SUFFERINGS, PRAYERS, SACRIFICES, JOYS, AND RELAXATIONS OF OUR LIVES. IN UNION WITH THOSE OF DEAR LORD JESUS, HERE ON EARTH MADE THE MOST PRECIOUS BLOOD OF CHRIST, ALL HIS BLOOD AND WOUNDS AND AGONY. SAVE US THROUGH THE SORROWFUL AND IMMACULATE HEART OF MARY. AMEN. AMEN. NOW, THE PLEDGE PLEDGE TO OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLICAN FOR WHICH STANDS, GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH JUSTICE. FOR MARK UNDER STATE LAW, A CONFLICT OF INTEREST EXISTS IF A COUNCIL MEMBER OR CERTAIN MEMBERS OF THAT PERSON'S FAMILY HAS A QUALIFYING FINANCIAL INTEREST IN AN AGENDA ITEM. MEMBERS WITH A CONFLICT OF INTEREST CANNOT PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSION NOR VOTE ON THE AGENDA ITEM. ARE THERE ANY KNOWN CONFLICTS OF INTEREST TO DISCLOSE AT THIS TIME? NONE. NONE. NONE. NOPE. NONE. NONE. UH, NEXT IS CITIZEN COMMUNICATION. THERE WE HAVE NO CITIZENS THAT SIGNED UP FOR CITIZEN COMMUNICATION FOR THIS WORKSHOP. SOUNDS GOOD. MOVING ON, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER ONE. DISCUSSION ON THE PROPOSED CITY OF HARINGTON BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024. 2025. CITY MANAGER. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSIONERS MAYOR. UM, BEFORE, UH, ROBERT STARTS, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT, UM, WE HAD MEETINGS WITH ALL THE DIRECTORS, UH, THAT INCLUDED THE FINANCE DIRECTOR, MYSELF AND BOTH ASSISTANT CITY MANAGERS. UH, WE WENT THROUGH THE ENTIRE BUDGET, UM, DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT. AND AFTER, UH, AND THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WE MADE ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW, CLOSE TO $4 MILLION IN CUTS. UH, FINANCE GAVE ME BACK THE BUDGET AFTER, UH, THE RESULT OF THOSE MEETINGS AND WE'RE STILL ABOUT $600,000 OF EXPENDITURES OVER REVENUE. SO WE WENT BACK, I WENT BACK AND WENT THROUGH THE BUDGET, UH, DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT AGAIN, GAVE IT BACK TO ROBERT. AND, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO BALANCE A BUDGET. SO WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS A BALANCED BUDGET. UM, AND SO NOW ONCE AFTER THIS PROCESS IS COMPLETE, IF IT'S STILL BALANCED OR NOT, THAT REMAINS TO BE SEEN. BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S BALANCED. SO WITH THAT, ROBERT'S GONNA TAKE US THROUGH SOME OF THE SLIDES. I'LL BE INTERJECTING, UH, HERE AND THERE, UH, WITH INFORMATION. THANK YOU, GABE. AS WE PROCEED, SO WE PREPARED A, A SUMMARY OF, OF THE BUDGET WITH A KEY, UH, SLIDES. SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE IMPORTANT BUDGET AND TAX SETTING DEADLINES, UH, FOR THE CITY. FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2025. UH, WE ARE EXPECTING TO HAVE OUR CERTIFIED TOTALS FROM THE CHIEF APPRAISER, UH, FROM THE CAMERON APPRAISAL DISTRICT BY JULY 25TH. BY LAW, WE HAVE TO, UH, RECEIVE BY JULY 25TH, EITHER THE CERTIFICATION OR A GOOD ESTIMATE OF THE CERTIFICATION. UM, SO THAT'S EXPECTED ON JULY 25TH. UM, AND AS WE GO THROUGH THE DATE, SO ON ON, WE'LL PROBABLY TAKE A, A COUPLE OF DAYS TO DO THE CALCULATION AND THEN WE CAN REMEET AGAIN, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE 29TH. UH, I WAS MEANING TALKING TO GABE, AND SO WE THINK THE 29TH AFTER WE HAVE RECEIVED THE CERTIFICATIONS THAT WE DONE THE CALCULATION, WE CAN RECONVENE AND, AND GO THROUGH THE CERTIFICATION. AND, AND THAT, THAT'S A GOOD POINT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE USING, UM, PRELIMINARY NUMBERS FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT. ONCE WE GET THE CERTIFIED TAX ROLL, THAT PROBABLY WILL CHANGE THE BUDGET, UH, SOMEWHAT, NOT DRASTICALLY, BUT IT WILL CHANGE SOMEWHAT. SO, UM, IF, IF WE CAN, MAYBE WE CAN TALK ABOUT OUR SECOND BUDGET WORKSHOP. AND WE WERE THINKING ABOUT THE 29TH. 'CAUSE THAT'LL GIVE FINANCE TWO DAYS TO ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THE, UH, PROJECTIONS, COME UP WITH SOME, UH, ACCURATE NUMBERS, AND THEN INTERJECT THAT INTO THE BUDGET SO WE CAN KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE HAVE AS FAR AS PROPERTY TAXES. SO IF EVERYBODY'S AVAILABLE ON 29TH, IF YOU COULD JUST CHECK THAT'S A MONDAY TO SEE IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE. AND WE CAN HAVE, WE CAN SCHEDULE OUR SECOND BUDGET WORKSHOP THAT DAY. UM, I GUESS I'LL BE FINE WITH ON, ON THAT MONDAY. OKAY. I DO HAVE A QUESTION THOUGH. UM, CAN WE GET PRELIMINARY, UM, TAX VALUES FOR 20 22, 20 23 IN THE LAST THREE MONTHS WHEN WE HAVE OUR NEXT, UH, BUDGET TALKS? YEAH, SO, SO YOU WANT THE CERTIFIED TOTALS FOR THE 20 22 23? THEY WERE IN THE CAFFER, WEREN'T THEY? UH, YES. YEAH. IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU KEPT A COPY OF THE CER THAT, UM, THE STATISTICAL SECTION, THERE'S A SECTION IN THE BACK WHERE IT'LL CO COMPARE 10 YEARS. YEAH. [00:20:01] NOW, IF YOU STILL WONDER, WE CAN GET 'EM FOR YOU, BUT I'M JUST LOOKING FOR THOSE THREE YEARS JUST, JUST AS A, A QUICK SNAPSHOT. SURE. I CAN GET THAT. THANK YOU. SO YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUST SHARE IT WITH THE COMMISSION. YEAH, I, I'LL BRING IT FOR EVERYBODY. YES. YEAH, IF YOU COULD JUST EMAIL IT TO EVERYONE, ROBERT. I WILL. AND I'M OKAY. UH, GABE WITH THE 29TH, IS EVERYONE ELSE AVAILABLE? I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME MY FLIGHT GETS IN. I DON'T THINK I WILL BE AVAILABLE BY FIVE 30. OKAY. WE SHOULD DO ANOTHER DATE THEN, JUST 'CAUSE OKAY. WE CAN, UH, I THINK TUESDAY MIGHT GET BACK THAT NIGHT. I'M JUST, OKAY. I CAN'T GET IN MY SOUTHWEST HERE, BUT, UH, OKAY. UM, UNLESS YOU, WE CAN SCHEDULE IT FOR 6:00 PM YEAH, WE CAN. AS LONG AS IT'S AFTER FIVE O'CLOCK. I THINK WE'RE GOOD. WE CAN DO SIX OR, UH, BECAUSE YOU NEED A RECORD VOTE RIGHT? ON THAT DAY. WELL, IT DEPENDS. I'M AVAILABLE THE NEXT DAY IS EARLIEST, BUT, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S ALSO THE EDC MEETING ON THE 30TH. SO, UM, WE, WE, UM, WE CAN MEET THE 30TH OR THE 31ST. 31ST IS WATERWORKS BOARD MEETING ALSO. SO, UM, IT, IT'S UP TO THE COMMISSION. WHY DON'T WE, UM, LOOK TO SEE THE 29TH AT SIX, UM, PENDING FORD'S AVAILABILITY. AND THEN IF, IF HE'S NOT AVAILABLE, THEN LET'S DO IT THAT TUESDAY. WE CAN DO THAT. UM, AND THEN IS EVERYBODY ELSE AVAILABLE? I'M GOOD. YES. TUESDAY FOR BOTH, BOTH DAYS. OKAY, GREAT. SO THAT WAY YOU CAN, WHEN YOU GOT SERVICE MAYOR, WHY DON'T WE JUST SET IT FOR TUESDAY, THAT WAY COMMISSION'S NOT TOTALLY LOADING. SO YOU, YOU, THAT WAY YOU CAN MAYBE HAVE SOME REST ON WHEN YOU GET BACK. YEAH. AS LONG AS NO ONE WANTS TO MAKE THE EDC OR HAS PLANS ON MAKING THE EDC MEETING BACK IN LAS VEGAS. YEAH. TO TAKE MY WIFE TO SEE HER BABY. OH, I WAS GONNA SAY, YOU DON'T COME BACK WITH THAT MINDSET OF, OF BLOWING MONEY . IF I'M A BIG WINNER, I MIGHT NOT COME BACK. , . OKAY. OR WE CAN SET IT FOR THAT. TUESDAYS PROBABLY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT . OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. SO, SO THE REST ARE STATUTORY DEADLINES. THE AUGUST 7TH, AS WE SUBMIT, UH, THE CITY MANAGER OR, OR THE CITY MANAGER MUST SUBMIT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE AND THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE TO THE CITY COMMISSION. THE 30TH IS THE LAST DAY FOR THE BUDGET OFFICER TO FILE THE PROPOSED BUDGET WITH MUNICIPAL COURT CLERK OR OUR MUNICIPAL COURT CLERK, WHICH IS THE CITY SECRETARY. SEPTEMBER 18TH IS THE LAST DAY TO PUBLISH ANY NOTICES FOR BUDGET HEARING. UH, CITY COUNCIL SHOULD HOLD A RECORD VOTE. THAT'S WHEN WE HOLD A RECORD VOTE WHEN WE VOTE FOR THE, UH, TAX RATE AND THE BUDGET. UM, AND THEN THE 24TH, THE 28TH AND THE 29TH, THOSE ARE THE ULTIMATE DEADLINES WHERE YOU DO HAVE TO APPROVE, UH, THE BUDGET AND THE, UH, AND THE RELATED TAX TAX RATE. THE NEXT SLIDE ARE, ARE SOME OF THE BUDGET GOALS THAT WE'VE, UM, COVERED OR, OR TRIED TO COVER IN OUR BUDGET FOR 2025. UH, WE'VE TRIED TO MAINTAIN THE STREET, UH, MAINTENANCE OR THE STREET, UH, OVERLAY AT 1.5 MILLION. UH, WE'VE DONE, UH, CONSIDERED DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, WHILE LEVERAGING GRANTS. SOME OF THE, UH, ENHANCEMENTS ARE, ARE THROUGH PUBLIC SAFETY FOR POLICE OPERATIONS, TRAFFIC SIGNALS, ANIMAL CONTROL, AND ALSO WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON, ON OUR HEALTH INSURANCE. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE GOALS, UM, IN OUR BUDGET. UH, JUST REAL QUICK ON THE HEALTH INSURANCE, WE HAVE RECEIVED A RENEWAL FROM UHC, UH, 5%. THAT'S ROUGHLY 300,000. BUT, UM, WE'RE NOT ACTING ON IT BECAUSE WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR SCOTT GIBBS ANALYSIS ON SELF-FUNDING. SO HE SAID THAT HE HAS STARTED THE PROCESS. UH, HE SHOULD BE GETTING SOMETHING TO US, HOPEFULLY WITHIN A WEEK. SO MAYBE WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING TO SHARE WITH EVERYBODY. THE RENEWALS THROUGH WHOM? UH, U-H-C-U-H-C. UNITED HEALTHCARE. OH, OKAY. HEALTH INSURANCE. YES. MAJOR MEDICAL STOCK SYMBOLS. UNH. THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I THINK. YOU, YOU . OKAY. SO THAT'S JUST . OKAY. OUR NEXT SLIDE IS AN, AN OVERVIEW OF OUR, UH, GENERAL FUND BUDGET. SO, UH, WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT OUR BUDGET ENDING AT 9 30 20 24 IS GONNA BE 34,079,882. OUR, OUR, UM, OUR WORKING BUDGET HAS PROPOSED REVENUES OF 64,801,637 AND, AND, UH, PROPOSED EXPENDITURES OF 63 MILLION 535 1 99. SO THAT BRINGS OUR REVENUES OVER EXPENDITURES TO 1 MILLION 266 438. SO WE HAVE, AT THIS POINT, WE, WE DO HAVE REVENUES AND EXCESSIVE EXPENDITURES, UH, PROJECTED. SO THAT'LL, THAT'LL TAKE OUR, UH, ESTIMATED FUND BALANCE AT 9 30, 20 25 TO 35 MILLION 346, 3 20. AND WE, WE DID A CALCULATION HERE ON THE BO ON THE BOTTOM OF, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A POLICY OF 120 DAYS MINIMUM REQUIRED, UH, LESS THE EDC SPECIAL PROJECT OF 4 9 26. UH, WE USUALLY HAVE ENCUMBRANCES THAT WE ROLL OVER OF ABOUT 500,000. SO THAT, THAT LEAVES, UH, AN AVAILABLE BALANCE, UH, FUND BALANCE OF 9,000,932. THAT WOULD BE AN EXCESS OF THE ONE 20 THAT EDC PROJECT AND, AND ENCUMBRANCES. [00:25:01] OKAY. I, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE, UM, THE REVENUES OVER EXPENDITURE NUMBER OF 1.2 MILLION HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE FUND BALANCE IN THE TOP COLUMN. UH, WHICH, WHICH IS PROBABLY HIGHLY UNLIKELY. UH, WE MAY BE SPENDING SOME OF THAT ON PROJECTS, UM, THAT WE IDENTIFY IN THIS PARTICULAR BUDGET. SO THAT WOULD TAKE OUR FUND BALANCE DOWN TO ABOUT 34 MILLION. UM, AND THE, UM, THAT'S THAT NUMBER RIGHT THERE. 34? YES. 34 MILLION, 79,000. NOW, THE, THE, UH, THE BOTTOM NUMBER WILL PROBABLY STAY THE SAME BECAUSE WE HAVE, UH, EDC SPECIAL PROJECT, THE 4 MILLION, WE ONLY, UH, ANTICIPATE SPENDING ABOUT THREE, 3.1 ROUGHLY. SO THAT NUMBER'S GONNA BE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE 9.9 MILLION. UM, BUT IF WE LEAVE THAT, THAT EDC NUMBER INTACT, THEN IT'LL DROP THE, THE AVAILABLE FUNDS TO USE FOR ANY, UH, CAPITAL PROJECT DOWN TO 8.6 MILLION. SO YOU'RE, UM, THE EDC, IS THAT WHAT I THINK IT IS? YES. MM-HMM. , YES. OKAY. UM, BUT THAT, THAT'S THE TOTAL AMOUNT. AND THAT'S NOT OUR PORTION. THAT'S NOT ON LARGE THOUGH. RIGHT. WHICH IS THE THREE POINT. YOU'RE RIGHT. AND THIS, THIS IS ONLY OUR, OUR BUDGETED AMOUNT AND, AND WE'RE ONLY ANTICIPATING ON USING ABOUT 3.1 THIS YEAR. SO, AND I DID PUT A, A NOTE ON THE MO ON THE BOTTOM THAT THIS DOES INCLUDE THE ELIMINATION OF A POSITION AT THE, UH, ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT, WHICH WAS TOTALING 72,445, WHICH IS INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET CALCULATION. UH, SO THAT WON'T REQUIRE A TRANSFER OUT TO THAT ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT. OKAY. WHAT WAS THAT ESTIMATED? UH, WHAT WAS THAT ESTIMATED TOTAL FUND BALANCE? IT WENT FROM 35 TO 34,000. UH, 34 MILLION. 34 MILLION, YES. 34,079,882. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. . NOW THAT'S, UH, ASSUMING COMMISSIONER, THAT WE INTEND TO USE THE EXCESS REVENUES OVER EXPENDITURES OF 1.2 MILLION, THAT NUMBER, THAT'S RIGHT ABOVE IT, IF WE USE ALL OR MOST OF IT, THAT'LL IMPACT THE FUND BALANCE THROUGH 9 30, 20 25. AND AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST PROPOSED, RIGHT? RIGHT. WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. YES. AND THESE ARE, I GUESS I ASSUME IS MEANING THAT, UH, THAT 1.2 WILL BE ALLOCATED SOMEHOW THROUGH THIS PROCESS, THIS WORKSHOPS, SO, OH, IT WILL. YEAH. SO IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE EXCESS REVENUES RATHER THAN EXPENDITURE. SO, OKAY. SO THE NEXT ONE IS, UH, THE PROPOSED FUNDED ONE-TIME PURCHASES. THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WERE APPROVED, UH, BY THE CITY MANAGER TO, TO MAINTAIN THEM IN THE, IN THE CURRENT BUDGET. UM, SO WE HAVE ABOUT 795,000 IN THE GENERAL FUND, UH, WHICH 97 4 88 IS POLICE OPERATIONS, THE AXON TASERS, UH, THE BEARCAT EMERGENCY RESCUE VEHICLE 350,000, UH, REPLACEMENT COMMUNITY COMMUNICATION CENTER, CONSOLES OF 158,000 FOR TRAFFIC SIGNALS. WE GOT A BUCKET TRUCK FOR 160,000 AND FOR ANIMAL CONTROL REPLACEMENT OF A UNIT TRUCK FOR 30,000. AND THAT'S IN THE GENERAL FUND IN THE MUNICIPAL COURT. IN THE MUNICIPAL GOLF COURSE, WE HAVE, UH, A TRIPLEX MOWER, UH, FOR THE TEE BOXES OF 45,000. SO AT THIS TIME, THE PROPOSED ONE TIME FUNDED, UM, UH, ITEMS TOTAL 840,488, OF WHICH 45,000 OF THAT IS IN THE MUNICIPAL GOLF COURSE. THERE'S NOTHING IN HERE FOR PUBLIC WORKS? NOT YET. THAT, THAT COULD COME OUT OF THE 1.2. THERE. THERE'S A SLIDE MAYOR THAT WE'RE GONNA COVER AT THE END. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE STREET DEPARTMENT? YES. THERE'S A SLIDE THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT, UH, REGARDING THE, UH, THE SALARIES NEEDED TO FUND THAT DEPARTMENT, AND THEN ALSO THE EQUIPMENT. OKAY. I JUST, IT'S, I'M SEEING THIS WITH Y'ALL, SO I HAVEN'T, YEAH, SO, SO THESE ARE JUST THE ITEMS THAT AS WE WENT THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, THEY WERE APPROVED BY GABE TO KEEP THEM IN THERE. UM, BUT WE, WE DO HAVE A SLIDE WHERE STUFF THAT WAS CUT FOR CONSIDERATION. CAN YOU JUST, IF YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THIS EMERGENCY RESCUE VEHICLE? WHAT IS THAT? THE, THE BEAR CASH KEER. CAN YOU COME UP, PLEASE TELL US WHAT YOUR $350,000 VEHICLE IS, PLEASE? FOR THE BEAR CAP? MM-HMM. . YEAH. THAT WOULD REPLACE THE, UH, CURRENT MA WE'RE USING, WHICH IS A MILITARY VEHICLE, FREQUENTLY DOWN. IT'S HARD TO GET IT WORKED ON. YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY SPECIALIZED TO WORK ON IT. UH, ESPECIALLY A MILITARY GUY WOULD KNOW, KNOW THAT. AND, AND THE PARTS ARE EXTREMELY HARD TO COME BY SO MANY TIMES IT'S NOT EVEN USABLE. AND THIS WOULD BE AN UPGRADE. AND IT'S ALSO A RESCUE VEHICLE. THE BEARCAT OR THE [00:30:01] MA IS NOT, SO THAT WOULD ACTUALLY PROBABLY DO MORE DAMAGE IF YOU TRIED TO DRIVE IT DOWN A FLOODED STREET. OKAY. SO IT'S IT, OR THAT'S, IS THAT THE FIRE WHERE IT'S LIKE THOSE, THE, TO OPEN A VEHICLE OR WHAT IS IT CALLED? LIKE THE JAWS? IT'S LIKE A SWAT TRUCK. THE JAWS? NO, IT JUST, UH, OH, OKAY. THAT'S WHAT IT'S, IT, IT'S A, IT'S AN ARMORED VEHICLE, BUT IT'S ULTIMATELY, IT'S A, IT'S A FORD TRUCK THAT'S BEEN BEEN MODIFIED. SO IT COULD BE WORKED ON BY THE CITY SHOP. IS IT JUST FOR WHAT NO, HE'S SAYING THAT IT COULD BE USED FOR BOTH. SO BE USED FOR, IT'S PRIMARILY A SWAT VEHICLE, BUT IF WE HAD TO USE IT TO RESCUE SOMEBODY IN SOME SITUATION, WE COULD DO THAT. OKAY. THAT MAKES SENSE. I JUST, I COULDN'T, I DIDN'T KNOW. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S STRAIGHT OUTTA GRANT THEFT AUTO MAN . IT'S A PRETTY COOL LOOK. IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME THING. COUNTY HAS ONE. I THINK BROWNSVILLE'S GOT ONE. OKAY. IN, UH, SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. YEP. SO THESE ARE THE ONE TIME, UH, PURCHASES THAT WERE FUNDED. SO WHEN WE STARTED OUR, OUR BUDGET, WE HAD TOTAL DEPARTMENT REQUESTS OF 69,144,322, UH, WITH THE MA THE CITY MANAGERS, UH, REVIEW AND, UH, CUTS. UH, HE WAS ABLE TO, TO BRING IT DOWN TO 63,000,535, UH, 1 99, WHICH IS, UH, A DECREASE OF 5 MILLION 609 1 23 FROM THE, FROM THE ORIGINAL DEPARTMENT REQUESTS. OKAY. SO THEN THAT'S, UH, SLIDE EIGHT. UH, SO THESE ARE THE PROPOSED NON FUNDER REQUESTS. THESE, THESE TOTAL 11,490,428. SO THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WERE REQUESTED BY DEPARTMENTS, BUT WERE REMOVED FROM THE BUDGET, UH, FOR Y'ALL'S CONSIDERATION AS WE GO THROUGH. SO IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, WE HAVE 6,300 RISK MANAGEMENT, 4,010, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL LISTED BY, BY AMOUNT. UH, MIS HAD 122,650. FIRE SUPPRESSION, 970,000 FIRE PREVENTION, 32,000 STREET MAINTENANCE, 2 MILLION 683, 777 STREET CLEANING, 700,000 PARKS, 1,000,095, 800. AND IF YOU WANT ME TO STOP AT ANY POINT, JUST LET ME KNOW. UM, THAT'S JUST DISCONTINUATION. I MAYBE WE GIVE US A SECOND TO KIND OF SURE. YEAH. OSCAR, ON THE STREET MAINTENANCE, THE 2.6, WHAT DOES ALL THAT STUFF DO? IT'S A PRETTY LONG LIST. UH, OSCAR YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT? YEAH, HE'S GETTING TO THE BENCH. OH, OKAY. UM, DO YOU HAVE ONE OF THESE, OSCAR? YES, HE DOES. YES, YOU DO. OKAY. WELL, THAT'S INCLUDING COMMISSIONER. THAT'S INCLUDING ALL THE EQUIPMENT THAT WAS PROPOSED AND SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S NEEDED. UM, I KNOW WHAT LAST YEAR COMMISSIONER FED IS, YOU SAID WE CAN DO WHAT, LIKE FIVE MILES A YEAR, RIGHT? BASED ON THE, LUIS, MAYBE THAT'S WHAT YOU GAVE US, RIGHT. BASED ON THE MONEY, THE $1.5 MILLION, WE ONLY GET LIKE FIVE MILES A YEAR. YEAH. LIKE RIGHT NOW WE'RE DOING LIKE ABOUT FOUR MILES, BUT YEAH, I KNOW. I, HUH. 1.7. YEAH. AND I KNOW A LITTLE BIT LATER WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT THE PAVING CREW, I KNOW THAT WE COULD BASICALLY ALMO ALMOST IF THINGS WORK OUT, WE CAN DOUBLE THAT IF WE GET THE PAVING CREW. BUT I KNOW WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT LATER. OKAY. IS, IS THERE A FUNDED REQUEST, UM, FOR PUBLIC WORKS LIKE THIS STREET MAINTENANCE? I SEE IT NON-FUNDED, BUT IS THERE WHAT THEY DID GET APPROVED? WELL, NO. WE'RE GONNA GO OVER THAT IN JUST, JUST A BIT. THE ITEMS THAT WERE FUNDED ARE JUST THOSE ITEMS. MM-HMM. , THERE'S ONLY ONE MAYOR. THE, THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL THAT'S OUT OF PUBLIC WORKS. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, ARE WE FUNDING THE, OR IN THIS BUDGET, IS IT, IS THE PAVING CREW INCLUDED AS IT IS NOT, IT IS NOT, NOT NOT AS BEING FUNDED. NO. BUT THERE IS, THIS IS NOT THE SLIDE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. OKAY. THERE'S ONE THAT WE'RE GONNA GET TO THAT HAS THE ACTUAL PERSONNEL. OKAY. AND THERE'S, THERE'S 10 PEOPLE THAT HE'S ASKING FOR. MM-HMM. . AND THEN THERE'S, UH, A LIST OF EQUIPMENT THAT HE'S ALSO ASKING FOR. IT'S ABOUT 2.6 MILLION MM-HMM. , UH, THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT AND, AND PERHAPS TALK ABOUT HOW TO FUND THAT IF WE NEED TO. UM, BUT THAT, THIS, THIS IS NOT IT. OKAY. SO WE GONNA GO, SO THEN WHAT I SUGGEST THAT WE DO, SO THAT WAY WE CAN KIND OF JUST FAMILIARIZE OURSELF WITH EVERYTHING IS LET'S LET ROBERT MAKE HIS PRESENTATION, AND THEN WE CAN TAKE OUR, OUR NOTES AS WE GO ALONG AND, AND MAYBE NOT, NOT INTERRUPT HIM. 'CAUSE I'M GONNA, I'M SAYING THAT MO MOSTLY FOR ME. 'CAUSE I'M GONNA HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. YEAH. UM, AND THEN WE CAN CIRCLE BACK [00:35:01] AND THEN GO PAGE BY PAGE, WHEREVER THE COMMISSION WANTS TO START. RIGHT. AND MAR, JUST AS AN FYI, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY DECISIONS TO BE MADE TODAY. CORRECT? CORRECT. YEAH. THIS IS JUST A PRESENTATION TO SHOW YOU WHERE WE ARE. AND THEN, UH, YOU CAN TAKE THE POWERPOINT BACK WITH YOU THAT DOES SHOW WHAT, UH, PIECES OF EQUIPMENT OR WHAT POSITIONS WERE ASKED FOR THAT WERE NOT FUNDED. AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT AT YOUR LEISURE. OKAY. AND THEN COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING AND SAY WHAT YOU'D LIKE FOR US TO, UH, CONSIDER. GREAT. AND THEN I ASK IF YOU CAN JUST HAVE 'EM UPLOADED IN OUR IPADS ALSO FOR THE, THE PRESENTATION. OKAY. WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT, UH, TOMORROW MORNING. THAT'S FINE. ALRIGHT. OKAY. SO THESE ARE THE, UH, PROPOSED NON-FUNDED. AND THAT'S A GOOD POINT. THIS IS JUST, UH, KIND OF, UH, LOOKING FOR DIRECTION ON HOW, HOW THESE FUNDS ARE GONNA BE SPENT. SO, SO WE'RE BACK ON PAGE 10, 11. 11. OKAY. MM-HMM. . OKAY. OKAY. SO WE HAVE THE STREET CLEANING, 700,000 PARKS. UH, WE, UH, WE HAD REQUESTS OF 1,000,095, 800 THAT WERE REMOVED. UH, SO PARKS DOES HAVE A, A LIST, A LONG LIST AS WELL. PLANNING, DEPART, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT. WE HAD A HUNDRED THOUSAND, UH, WHICH IS THE MATCH FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. PUBLIC BUILDINGS HAD 9,000 THAT WAS REMOVED, BUILDING INSPECTIONS, 86,000 SANITATION, UH, 2 MILLION 864, 7 0 6. AND THIS ONE IS IN A, A SEPARATE FUND. IT'S NOT IN THE, IN THE GENERAL FUND. UH, RUSSIAN AND DEBRIS COLLECTIONS. NINE 940,045. THE LANDFILL TRANSFER STATION, 1 MILLION 851 1 40. UH, AND THE MOTOR VEHICLE WAREHOUSE, UM, THAT'S 25,000. SO, UH, THE TOTAL NON-FUNDED REQUEST, TOTAL 11 MILLION 494 28. AND THESE ARE NOT FUNDED. UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO COMMENT ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. UM, WE, UH, AWARDED THE CONTRACTOR FREEZE AND NICHOLS, UH, I'VE BEEN ABLE TO SECURE, UH, AN AMOUNT TO HAVE THEM DO THE COMP PLAN FOR US. WHAT I'M, I'M STILL TRYING TO WORK ON IS THE, UM, THE PARKS MASTER PLAN, THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN, AND THE DOWNTOWN PARKING STUDY. UH, BECAUSE THERE WAS NO SCOPE ON THAT, IT'S TAKEN A LITTLE LONGER 'CAUSE WE'RE HAVING TO COME UP WITH THAT AS WE GO BECAUSE WE'VE HAD ZOOM MEETINGS WITH STAFF, UH, INCLUDING PARKS, UH, AND DID TO TRY TO CREATE A SCOPE OF WORK FOR WHAT WE NEED DONE IN THAT PARTICULAR SECTION. I THINK WE'VE GIVEN HIM SOME GOOD DIRECTION. SO HE'S GONNA COME BACK AND PERHAPS BY THE END OF THE WEEK, GIVE ME A DOLLAR AMOUNT. AND THEN AT THAT POINT I CAN GET, TRY TO FINALIZE THAT PARTICULAR SECTION. SO THAT REQUEST, IT'S IN THERE FOR THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND. WE MAY NEED TO ASK FOR THAT BECAUSE WE ONLY HAD MONEY FOR THE COMP PLAN FOR OUR GRANT. SO THERE WAS NO OTHER MONEY IDENTIFIED FOR THE, UH, FOR THE OTHER COMPONENTS THAT WERE INTERJECTED INTO THE, INTO THE PLAN. AND THERE ARE GONNA BE SEPARATE COMPONENTS. SO IF I COULD JUST ASK THAT THE COMMISSION CONSIDER THAT AT, AT LEAST TO START WITH, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT'S GONNA BE. COULD THE DOWNTOWN POSSIBLY BE WITH EDC AND THEY, UM, LOOK AT THE PLANNING OF EDC? 'CAUSE THAT IS LIKE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. UH, I'M NOT SURE IF THEY CAN, I'LL HAVE TO ASK ORLANDO. 'CAUSE NORMALLY WHEN THEY DEAL WITH, WITH THEIR FUNDING, THERE'S A JOB COMPONENT OF IT. MM-HMM. . BUT MAYBE A STUDY MIGHT HELP. LEMME CHECK WITH HIM AND SEE WHAT HE SAYS. OKAY. BECAUSE THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THE PLAN, SORRY, EXCUSE ME. THE DOWNTOWN AND PARK MASTER PLAN IS TO MAKE THE CITY MORE ATTRACTIVE TO RECRUITING JOBS BUSINESSES. SO, RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S THE ANGLE YOU ATTACK. RIGHT. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO ENCOURAGE MIXED USE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. SO THAT WAS PART OF THE STUDY AND OH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT'S WHY. AND THEN I GUESS MAYBE WE CAN SHARE IN THE COST OR THERE'S, IT, IT, I'M JUST WONDERING IF IT'S, YEAH, I WOULD, I THINK IN, IN OTHER COMMUNITIES IT IS A FOCUS OF THE EDC. SO JUST SOMETHING TO, TO LOOK AT. I'LL TALK TO HIM. THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT. UM, THE NEXT SLIDE, AND MOVING ON AND MOVING ON. SORRY, I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU WEREN'T GONNA TALK . THAT WAS AN F YI. NO, ME, ME, ME. I'M TALKING ABOUT MYSELF. GO, GO RIGHT AHEAD. SLIDE 16, UM, LISTS OUT ALL OF OUR POSITIONS THAT WERE REQUESTED. AND AT THIS POINT THERE HAVE NOT BEEN FUNDED. THERE'S 21 PO, 27 POSITIONS AT A COST OF 1,255,000 AND, UH, $7. UH, WE'VE LISTED THEM ALL THERE. THERE'S EVERYTHING. ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES, COMMUNICATION AND MEDIA HAVE FOUR POSITIONS THERE. INTERNAL AUDIT PARKS, GROUND KEEPERS, UH, BUILDING INSPECTIONS, PERMIT TECHNICIANS. UM, AND SO WE HAVE MULTIPLE PAGES [00:40:02] ALL THE WAY THROUGH. AND THAT, THAT TOTALS A 1 MILLION 2 55 0, 0 7, 800 OF THOUSAND OF THAT IS IN SALARIES. 454,000 OF THAT IS IN BENEFITS. THE, THE NEXT SLIDE IS A, A BREAKDOWN OF OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUES. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE GENERAL FUND, UH, SALES TAX COMPRISES OF 26,154,000 AND PROPERTY TAX, UH, 21,840,000. UH, THE NEXT LARGE ONE IS FRANCHISE, UH, FEES AND, UH, OTHER TAXES CHARGES FOR SERVICES. AND YOU SEE ONE, AN ITEM DOWN HERE FOR 5 MILLION. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER LAST YEAR. THESE, THIS IS A NON-CASH, UM, UH, REVENUE. AND, AND IT'S THE INFRASTRUCTURE DONATIONS. WHEN DEVELOPERS DO THEIR SUBDIVISIONS, THEY DONATE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE TO US. SO WE, WE BRING IT IN AS A REVENUE, AND THEN WE BRING IT IN AS, AS AN EXPENDITURE OF THE SAME AMOUNT. SO IT HAS A NARROW, UH, UH, A ZERO NET EFFECT. SO YOU'LL SEE 5 MILLION IN THE REVENUES AND 5 MILLION IN THE EXPENDITURES. SO, UM, OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUES TOTAL 64 MILLION 8 0 1, 637. AND JUST FOR, UM, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE IT IN A, IN A PIE CHART. THE, THE, THE LARGE CHUNK OF THAT PIE IS SALES TAX AND PROPERTY TAX. LEMME ASK YOU A QUESTION. OKAY. UH, INTEREST INCOME, THAT'S THE TEXT POOL AND ALL THAT. IT'S TEXT POOL AND, UH, PLAINS CAPITAL AND OKAY. AND YOU'RE STILL FIGURING 5% MORE OR LESS? UH, YEAH. UH, A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN FIVE. YEAH. TRYING TO BE A LITTLE BIT CONSERVATIVE, BUT I THINK IT'S ABOUT FIVE, FIVE OR A LITTLE BIT LESS. WHICH ONE WAS THAT? MAYBE LIKE 4.89. OKAY. GOT IT. 21. THANK YOU. SO, SO IT'S STILL A, A LARGE CHUNK. IT'S MILLION 7 75. SO THE, THIS IS HOW IT COMPARES TO THE PRIOR YEAR. SO PROPERTY TAX COMPARED TO THE PRIOR YEAR. AND OF COURSE THIS IS, UM, THIS IS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE CERTIFIED TOTAL. SO ONCE WE GET THE CERTIFIED TOTALS, WE WILL RECALCULATE AND, AND RECOMPUTE, UM, SALES TAX. SO LAST YEAR WE HAD 62 MILLION 8 39, 9 45 IN REVENUES COMPARED TO 64 MILLION 8 0 1, UH, IN THE CURRENT YEAR. SO THAT'S A DIFFERENCE OF 1,000,009 61 OR 3.12% INCREASE. SO PROPOSE JUST, UM, THIS DIFFERENCE IN THE PROPERTY TAXES, A DECREASE IN PROPERTY TAX ON THE FIRST LINE. RIGHT. AND, AND SO THIS ONE, WE, WE DIDN'T DO REALLY AN INCREASE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE CERTIFIED TOTALS YET. SO THAT'LL CHANGE. SO THAT'LL CHANGE. WE'LL, WE'LL DO A RE COMPUTATION. GOT IT. UH, EXPENDITURES FOR, FOR, UH, 2025 IS 63 MILLION 535, 1 99. THAT'S OUR PROJECTION. UM, PERSONNEL SERVICES IS THE LARGE CHUNK OF THE PIE AT 41,644,000. UH, THE NEXT LARGE ONE IS SERVICES AND CHARGES, AND THEN CAPITAL OUTLAY. AND SO THAT, THAT'S THE, THE PI, UH, OF ALL THE EXPENDITURES. DO YOU HAVE THE BREAKDOWN HERE FOR POLICE AND FIRE? IT'S NEXT SLIDE. I I HAVE ONE, A SLIDE ON THE NEXT ONE. YEAH. OKAY. GO. SO, THE NEL SERVICES, UM, UH, UH, SINCE THEY REPRESENT THE LARGEST CHUNK OF THE EXPENDITURES, WE DID DO A BREAKOUT OF, UM, OF THE PERSONNEL EXPENDITURES, WHICH TOTAL 41 640 40 1,644,000, OF WHICH, UH, POLICE IS 16,000,742. FIRE IS 11 MILLION 459 600. ROBERT, COULD YOU REPEAT THAT AGAIN, PLEASE? OH, SORRY. YES, SIR. UH, POLICE IS 16,742,236. AND FIRE, UH, COMPRISES OF 11 MILLION 459 600. AND THAT'S JUST PERSONNEL EXPENSES. THOSE ARE PERSONAL EXPENSES. POLICE IS 40% OF THE, UH, TOTAL EXPENDITURES. FIRE IS 28%, AND ALL OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE 32%. SO THAT, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S HOW THE, THE PIE IS SLICED UP. AND I, I WAS THINK OF FOOD. SO, AND I, I WILL NOTE THAT A CORPORATION SHOULD SPEND NO MORE THAN 70% ON PERSONNEL. RIGHT. AND YOU HAVE US AT, UH, 65%. RIGHT. SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE 65% RIGHT HERE. RIGHT. AND IN ANY BUSINESS CORPORATION, IT'S ALWAYS THE LARGEST EXPENDITURE. MM-HMM. . MM-HMM. , UH, THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE SALARIES. SALARY INCREASES, UH, THAT WE [00:45:01] ARE PROJECTED FOR THE, THE FOLLOWING, THE COMING YEAR. UH, THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING, THESE ARE ALREADY INCLUDED IN, IN THE BUDGET BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY KNOWN. SO, UH, BASED ON, UH, COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS FOR THE POLICE, IT'S 613,358. FIRE IS 664,286. AND, UH, THE FINAL YEAR OF THE EVERGREEN, UH, SALARY STUDY, UH, IS AN EFFECT OF 239,798. SO THAT BRINGS TOTAL, TOTAL SALARY INCREASES THAT ARE KNOWN AT THIS POINT OF 1 MILLION 517 442. AND THAT'S JUST WITH, UH, THE, THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS. AND THE SALARY STUDY, THAT'S, THAT'S YEAR TWO LEASE IN YEAR ONE FOR FIRE. YEAH. AND YEAR TWO OF THE EVERGREEN. YEAH. RIGHT. WELL, THE FINAL YEAR FOR EVERGREEN, THE FINAL YEAR, EXCUSE ME, THIS IS A, A EXPENDITURE BUDGET COMPARISON. UM, FROM 2024 TO 2025, UH, WE HAD, UH, 57,219,000 8 0 8. IN 20 FISCAL YEAR 2024. AND FISCAL YEAR 2025, WE ARE AT 63 MILLION 535 199. SO THAT'S SIX, UH, MILLION 315 INCREASE FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR, ABOUT 11% INCREASE. THESE ARE SOME OF THE, UH, THE ITEMS THAT WE FUND OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND AT THE TOP, AND THE HOTEL MOTEL FUND ON THE BOTTOM. SO WE, WE ARE FUNDING AT THIS POINT, THE LOAVES AND FISHES. THE PARTNERSHIP IS 75,000. THE IMMIGRATION ASSISTANCE IS 50,000. THERE'S TWO COMPONENTS OF THE, UH, BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB. THE OPERATIONS IS AT 140,000, AND THE TEEN CONTRACT IS A HUNDRED FORTY FIVE SEVEN. SO THAT THE GENERAL FUND IS FUNDING 410,861. AND THE HOTEL MOTEL FUND, UH, WE ARE FUNDING 929,435. 30,000 OF THAT IS THE IWO JIMA. UH, THE BIRDING FESTIVAL, 81 MIL. 81,000. UH, THE CONVENTION CENTER FOR THE BIRDING FESTIVAL IS 40,000. THE PERFORMING ARTS IS 24,000. UH, THE TRANSFERS THAT WE DO THAT TO THE MUSEUM ARE 87 859, THE AUDITORIUM'S, 60,090. UH, THE FUNDING FOR THE CVB, THE VISIT HARLINGEN IS 574,486. AND THE DID AT 32,000, SO THAT'S 9 29 4 35. MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WE HAVE A, UM, A LISTING OF ALL OF OUR SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS AT THE BEGINNING FUND BALANCE, THE REVENUES, TRANSFERS, EXPENDITURES, AND ENDING FUND BALANCE. AND THIS IS FROM THE TENNIS COURTS DOWN TO THE LIBRARY. AND SO WE'RE STARTING WITH A FUND BALANCE FOR ALL SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS OF 14 MILLION 185 0 92 REVENUES THAT ARE GENERATED BY THAT FUND. TOTAL 23 MILLION 1 62, 1 66 342. AND TRANSFERS THAT COME EITHER FROM ANOTHER FUND, UH, TOTAL 1 MILLION 921 532. UH, SO TOTAL EXPENDITURES AT THIS POINT FOR THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUND TOTAL, 22,841,000, UH, RO ROBERT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO INCREASE THE EXPENDITURE FOR TOURS NUMBER ONE BY ALMOST ONE, 1.1 MILLION. THAT'S FOR THE GRIMES. UH, OKAY. THE CITY SHARE OF THE GRIMES PROJECT. OKAY. 1.1. YEAH. WE'LL, WE'LL INCREASE THAT. INCREASE IT BY 1.1 OR INCREASE IT TO 1.1. NO, INCREASE IT BY 1.1. SO 1.3 TOTAL. YEAH. AND THAT'S JUST THE EXPENDITURES, RIGHT? THAT'S JUST EXPENDITURES. OH, SURE. AND THEN I, AND MY FRIDAY MEMO LAST WEEK, I INVITED EVERYBODY TO THE, UM, GROUNDBREAKING. THAT'S, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT DATE THAT IS, BUT IT'S COMING UP SOON. OKAY. NEXT MONTH, I THINK. RIGHT? UH, YES, MA'AM. I, I JUST DON'T REMEMBER THE DATE. THANK YOU, GABE. SO, UM, AT THIS POINT, UH, WE HAVE 2 MILLION 246, 6 92 OF REVENUES OVER EXPENDITURES. ONCE WE MAKE THAT CHANGE, IT'LL BE 1 MILLION 1 46, 6 92 REVENUES OVER EXPENDITURES. UH, OUR ENDING FUND BALANCE PROJECTED AT THIS POINT IS 16 MILLION 4 31 786. WITH THAT CHANGE, IT'LL BE 15 MILLION 1 31 786. THE NEXT SLIDE IS, UH, A SUMMARY OF OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS, WHICH INCLUDE THE MUNICIPAL AUDITORIUM, THE SANITATION DEPARTMENT, OUR MUSEUM, AND OUR GOLF COURSE. SO WE'RE STARTING OUR, UM, FUND BALANCE AT 14 MILLION 422 356. THE REVENUES THAT ARE GENERATED IN THOSE, UH, DEPARTMENTS ARE 12,000,245. 4 0 5. THEY REQUIRE TRANSFERS OF A HUNDRED FORTY SEVEN NINE HUNDRED FORTY NINE COMPARED TO OUR EXPENDITURES OF 12 MILLION 246, 6 0 2. SO THIS IS A, UH, THIS IS A REVENUE OVER EXPENDITURE OF 1 4 6 7 52, [00:50:01] LEAVING AN ENDING FUND BALANCE OF 14 MILLION 569 1 0 8. AND THAT'S JUST THE ENTERPRISE ONES. OUR INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS COM COMPRISED OF THE MOTOR VEHICLE WAREHOUSE AND OUR HEALTH HEALTH INSURANCE FUND. UH, WE DO START THE, UM, THE INTERNAL SERVICE FUND FUND BALANCES AT 8,000,538. WE HAVE REVENUES OF 8 MILLION 693 10 EXPENDITURES OF 8 MILLION 4 0 8 2 46. SO THAT'S A REVENUES OVER EXPENDITURES OF 282,000, LEAVING A FUND BALANCE AT THE END OF THE, AT THE END OF THE PROPOSED YEAR OF 8 MILLION 820 0 97. THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF ALL FUNDS OF THE CITY, EXCLUDING, UH, ANY COMPONENT UNITS LIKE, UH, E-D-C-H-C-I-B, UM, AIRPORT AND WATER. THESE ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THERE, BUT EVERY OTHER FUND IN THE CITY IS INCLUDED HERE, INCLUDING THE GENERAL FUND, ALL SPECIAL REVENUES, ENTERPRISE FUNDS, AND INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS. BEGINNING FUND BALANCE IS 71 MILLION 225, 363. UH, REVENUES GENERATED FROM ALL FUNDS IS 110,973,175, EXPENDITURES OF 1 MILLION 107,031,229. ALL FUNDS HAVE A, UM, PUT TOGETHER, THEY HAVE, UH, REVENUES OVER EXPENDITURES OF 3 MILLION 941 946, LEAVING AN ENDING FUND BALANCE OF 75 MILLION 167 3 0 9. SO THE CITY'S IN GREAT SHAPE. UM, OUR BUDGET, LIKE ROBERT SAID, WHEN YOU CONSIDER ALL COMPONENT UNIT IS ABOUT, I MEAN, WHEN YOU CONSIDER ALL, ALL FUNDS IS 110 MILLION, 111 MILLION. SO, SO THAT'S THE LAST SLIDE OF OUR REGULAR, UM, OVERVIEW. AND THEN, THEN WE DO HAVE A, A COUPLE OF OTHER SLIDES THAT ARE FOR THE STREET. AND YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE? SURE. UH, THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE, UM, THE WORK CREW OR THE STREET, UH, CREW THAT PUBLIC WORKS HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT CREATING, UH, HE'S GOT 10 POSITIONS THAT HE'S IDENTIFIED THAT HE WOULD NEED. IS THIS STILL 10 OSCAR? YES, IT IS. YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO INCREASE? NO. OKAY. SO, UH, THE SALARIES BENEFIT TO $629,000. THAT'S JUST FOR THE, UH, FOR THE LABOR TO OPERATE THAT, THAT PAVING CREW. UM, AND AGAIN, THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE FUNDED OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. THEN CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE? THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE EQUIPMENT THAT HE WOULD NEED. WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT, UH, IN OUR, IN OUR STOCK AT THE CURRENT TIME. AND IT'S ABOUT $2.2 MILLION. UM, SIR, IF I MAY, WE DO HAVE SOME, BUT I'LL GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE. LIKE THE MORTAR GRADER, UH, IT'S FROM 2000, SO IT'S 20 SOMETHING YEARS OLD ALREADY, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES WITH IT. THE ASPHALT ZIPPER IS FROM 2010, AND I MEAN, THE LIFESPAN OF THOSE UNITS ARE SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS AT THE MOST 10 YEARS AND, AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF WE DON'T HAVE. SO, UM, WHAT ABOUT SUPPLY ISSUES? LIKE, UM, SO YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE POSITIONS, BUT YOU CAN'T FILL THEM WITHOUT HAVING THE EQUIPMENT FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO WORK. CORRECT. IF IN A HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION WHERE THEY WERE INCLUDED, UM, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE LEAD TIME IS TO OBTAIN THIS EQUIPMENT? SOME OF IT WE COULD PROBABLY GET BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, AND SOME OF IT, IT WOULD BE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR. WE WOULDN'T HIRE ANYBODY UNTIL WE HAVE ALL THE EQUIPMENT IN PLACE. OKAY. I THINK RIGHT NOW, FOR THE MOST PART, THE THINGS THAT ARE TAKING THE LONGEST ARE THE DUMP TRUCKS. MM-HMM. . AND THE PURPOSE OF US, INCLUDING THE DUMP TRUCKS THERE AND THE, THE, THE, THE TRAILER WAS BECAUSE WE COULD DO OUR OWN HAULING. SO WE WOULD SAVE ON THE HAULING SERVICES THERE AS WELL. AND, AND THIS WOULD BE FOR A 10, ONE BUDGET. SO, UH, IF ANY OF THIS IS APPROVED, WE COULD POSSIBLY, UH, PRE-ORDER THEM BEFORE, UH, TEN ONE STARTS JUST TO TRY TO GET A HEAD START ON, ON THE DELIVERY, BUT NOT MAKE ANY ACTUAL PAYMENTS UNTIL AFTER TEN ONE AFTER RECEIVE. YES. RIGHT. MAYBE A COMMITMENT LETTER OR SOMETHING. RIGHT. AND SO IF YOU WERE TO GET ALL OF THESE POSITIONS AND THE EQUIPMENT, WHAT WOULD BE THE DELIVERABLES FOR THE COMMUNITY? WELL, LIKE RIGHT NOW, I KNOW, UH, I HAD A MEETING WITH LUIS AND ROBERTO, THE OTHER ENGINEER. RIGHT NOW WE'RE PAVING AROUND 1.7, UH, WITH 1.7 MILLION. WE'RE PAVING A LITTLE BIT UNDER FOUR MILES, DEPENDING ON THE WIDTH OF THE ROAD. WE COULD DO ANYWHERE FROM EIGHT TO 12 MILES, DEPENDING, UH, A [00:55:01] LOT OF THESE PER YEAR. YEAH. PER YEAR. WITH THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S BUDGETED. IF IT WAS 1.7 OR 1.5, WE COULD DO A LOT MORE. I MEAN, WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, AT LEAST 30% SAVINGS PER IF WE WERE DOING IT IN HOUSE. RIGHT. AND MARY, JUST TO, JUST TO, UH, CLARIFY, THAT WOULD BE FOR AN OVERLAY. CORRECT? THERE WOULD BE SOME OVERLAY MILL AND OVERLAY, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY. MM-HMM. , A LOT OF THOSE, UH, AND, AND IT'S LIKE I WAS MENTIONING TODAY, WE COULD REALLY TARGET ON A LOT OF, UH, RESIDENTIAL STREETS. RIGHT, RIGHT. THAT WE ALWAYS TRY TO GO FOR THE MAJOR THOROUGH AFFAIRS, BUT THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO DO, UH, A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL HOMES WITH A MILL AND OVERLAY. AND THAT COULD BUY US ANOTHER SEVEN TO 10 YEARS WITH IT. MM-HMM. . AND THEN JUST, AND THEN THE, UH, COMPLETE, UH, RECONSTRUCTION. UH, THAT'LL TAKE A LOT, A LOT MORE, MORE. IT WOULD TAKE A LOT MORE MONEY, BUT, BUT THEN I GUESS WE COULD BE SELECTIVE THERE ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT, LET'S DO THESE, THIS ROADS THAT DONATE A LOT OF WORK, LET'S DO A MILL OVERLAY. AND THE TOTAL RECON, WE COULD JUST, AND WE COULD BE SELECTIVE ON THAT. WHAT, WHAT WE COULD DO, MAYOR IN A CASE LIKE THAT, IS JUST ALTERNATE YEARS. ONE YEAR WE DO JUST, JUST, UM, MILL, UH, AND OVERLAY. AND THEN THE OTHERS, WE DO COMPLETE RECONSTRUCTION. UM, WE COULD ALSO USE THESE FOR TRAILS, CORRECT? YEAH, DEFINITELY. WELL, THE CREW. THE CREW. THE CREW, YEAH. YOU COULDN'T, YOU WOULDN'T USE THE MONEY, THE 1.7, BECAUSE THOSE ARE FOR STREETS. RIGHT. SO WE'D HAVE TO SET ASIDE, UH, THE MONEY TO ACTUALLY BUY THE MATERIALS FOR THE TRAIL. BUT WE COULD USE THIS, THE CREW TO ACTUALLY DO THE CREW. YEAH. YEAH. SO IT WAS GONNA BE MY NEXT QUESTION. SO, UM, YOU COULD DO EIGHT TO 12 MILES, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANT IF YOU HAVE THIS. BUT THEN THOSE EIGHT TO 12 MILES ALSO REQUIRE MATERIAL. WHAT'S THE AVERAGE COST? WELL, WE COULD USE THAT OUT OF THE 1.5 MILLION THAT'S BUDGETED THERE. SO WITH THAT, THAT'S ALREADY THAT. YEAH. WE ARE ALREADY CALCULATING THOSE AMOUNT OF MILES WITH THAT MATERIAL. OKAY. SO THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY ADDITIONAL COST? NO, NO, NO. THAT, THAT WOULD JUST BE FOR EITHER MATERIALS OR AS WE'RE USING IT NOW TO HIRE A CONTRACTOR. UH, BUT THEY, THEY FACTOR, UH, MOBILIZATION, UH, PROFIT. MM-HMM. . UM, SO IN A SENSE, WE'RE CUTTING OUT THE MIDDLEMAN, UH, YES, YES. INCLUDING THE HAULING. BECAUSE USUALLY WHEN, WHEN YOU, YOU, YOU, UH, ORDER HOT MIX, BY THE TIME THEY DELIVER TO YOU, THEY'RE CHARGING YOU AN EXTRA 10, 15% PER HAULING. SO YOU, YOU WOULD ELIMINATE THAT. AND THE 2.2, UH, MILLION IN EQUIPMENT, WHAT IS THE LIFESPAN OF THIS EQUIPMENT IF YOU'RE GONNA BE USING IT AT LEAST A GOOD EIGHT TO 10 YEARS WITH PROPER MAINTENANCE, WHICH WE WOULD DO, AND, AND LIKE THE TRADE IN, LIKE THE ASPHALT ZIPPER, OUR OLD ONE, WE COULD PROBABLY GET SOME TRADE IN VALUE FOR IT. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH, BUT I KNOW WE COULD GET SOME TRADE IN VALUE FOR THE OLD ONE. AND SO THE PRICE OF ASPHALT CONTINUES TO GO UP. MM-HMM. . YES. AND THAT'S WHY IT'S GONNA GET MORE EXPENSIVE IF YOU CONTRACT WORK OUT. YEAH. I THINK THIS HAS THE POTENTIAL TO TOTALLY REVOLUTIONIZE THE WAY WE DO STREETS HERE IN ARGEN. UM, IT, IT, WE'RE CUTTING OUT THE MIDDLE MAN. WE CAN SAY IN THE LONG RUN, I THINK THIS IS GONNA PAY FOR ITSELF. AND IT ALSO GIVES US THE ADDED FLEXIBILITY TO DO STREETS WHEN WE NEED IT, INSTEAD OF ALWAYS HAVING TO DEPEND ON THE CONTRACTOR AND DO CHANGE ORDERS AND DO ALL THESE OTHER THINGS. SO I, I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER, UM, APPROVING THIS, BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING I KNOW ONE IN MY DISTRICT, UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE MA MAJOR THINGS THAT I GET IS CALLS ABOUT THE STREETS. ALL THAT THE STREETS ARE BAD. THE STREETS, WE HAVE POTS HERE, OR THE STREET IS ALL MESSED UP. THEY HAVEN'T, THEY HAVEN'T TOUCHED OUR STREET IN 10, 15 YEARS. AND I THINK BY GETTING ALL THIS, THE PERSONNEL AND THE, AND THE MATERIAL AND THE EQUIPMENT, WE CAN REALLY ATTACK THAT. COMMISSIONER. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GONNA DO TOMORROW IS WE'RE GONNA HEAR A REPORT, UH, FROM PUBLIC WORKS ON THE DRAINAGE THAT WE'VE DONE, UH, WITH OUR OWN DRAINAGE CREW THAT WE HAVE IN HOUSE NOW. AND SO JUST CONSIDER THAT WHEN YOU LISTEN TO THAT REPORT OF HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT STREETS BY HAVING OUR OWN CREW AS WELL. I'M NOT TRYING TO SETTLE IT, I'M JUST TELLING YOU THAT THAT'S WHAT THAT WELL, I'M ALREADY SOLD ON IT, SO IT'S OKAY. WELL, I THINK, I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE ALL SOLD ON IT. THE ONLY THING I'M LOOKING AT RIGHT, IS THAT, UM, YOU SAID WE HAVE 1.2 MM-HMM. TO WORK WITH, BUT THEN YOU'RE TELLING ME IT COSTS 2.2 TO JUST GET THE EQUIPMENT AND THEN ANOTHER, UH, 600, 620. SO, SO YEAH. AND IN, WELL, IF, IF THE COMMISSIONER WANTED TO DO IT, THE 2.2 WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO COME FROM FUND BALANCE. THE THING IS, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE HOW MANY DAYS? WE HAVE LIKE 218. OH YES. TOTAL. WE HAVE OVER 200. YEAH. WE HAVE OVER 200 DAYS. I MEAN, WHAT'S THE USE OF HAVING ALL THIS MONEY AND JUST SITTING THERE AND SITTING THERE? WE CAN BE PROACTIVE. WE CAN ACTUALLY SPEND SOME MONEY. AND IT'S NOT LIKE IF WE'RE SPENDING IT ON, YOU KNOW, CARELESSLY, WE'RE, WE'RE SPENDING IT ON SOMETHING THAT'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE DOING, YOU KNOW, TANGIBLE RESULTS FOR THE COMMUNITY WITH THE STREETS. SO I THINK WHAT'S THE POINT OF HAVING THE MONEY? WE'RE NOT GONNA USE IT. UH, THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND YOU TAKE FROM FUND BALANCE IS THE SALARIES. MM-HMM. THAT HAS TO COME FROM THE, UH, REVENUE OVER EXPENDITURES. THE 1.2. AND THAT'S ABOUT, UH, IT'S ACTUALLY ABOUT SIX. YES. HALF THE 1.2. YEAH. CORRECT. IT'S HALF OF IT, RIGHT? YEAH. LESS THAN THE MONEY FOR THE DOWNTOWN IMPROVEMENT AND THE PARKS. THAT COULD BE ANOTHER, WHATEVER. RIGHT. UM, [01:00:01] NOW WE'RE IN THE QUESTION PHASE, RIGHT? MAYOR, NOW WE CAN ASK ALL THE QUESTIONS. I, I, I THINK SO. OR, OR, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I KNOW I KEEP, I KEEP, WE HAVE, WE HAVE ONE MORE TIME BREAKING MY OWN RULES, BUT LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND, AND, AND LET ROBERT FINISH UP. AND THEN I THINK WE NEED A, A GOOD CONVERSATION AND STARTING WITH THE QUESTIONS. WE'LL START WITH YOU. SO WE, WE DO HAVE ONE MORE SLIDE, LAST SLIDE. THIS IS ON THE, UH, NEW BLUE, NEW AND BLUE TICKETING SYSTEM FOR THE POLICE OPERATIONS. UM, THIS IS A TOTAL COST. UM, SO, AND THE INITIAL COST AND THE INITIAL YEAR, IT'S EIGHT EIGHT. THE COST IS 83,750, WHICH INCLUDES THE FIRST YEAR OF THE NEW IN BLUE TICKETING SYSTEM SET UP, UH, 35,750 FOR THE ANNUAL SUPPORT AND MAINTENANCE. UH, WE DO HAVE TO PURCHASE, UH, 60 PHONES, UH, WITH CASES. AND, AND THEN ALONG WITH THAT COMES WITH THE COURT ONLINE PAYMENTS. SO THAT'S 83,750 IN THE FIRST YEAR. AND THEN AFTER THE FIRST YEAR, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THIS SETUP. SO IT WOULD BE 64,550 GOING FORWARD ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. AND THAT IS THE NEW TICKETING SYSTEM. RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE A TICKETING SYSTEM AT, AT PD. SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE MANUAL. IF, IF, IF YOU GET, UM, STOPPED FOR A VIOLATION, THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR THE, UH, THE PERSON THAT GOT TICKETED TAXES, THEIR TICKET THROUGH THEIR PHONE ONLINE IMMEDIATELY. YES, I BELIEVE SO. AND THEN, AND THEN BE ABLE TO PAY FOR IT ONLINE ALSO. RIGHT. SO IT'S, IT'S SUPPOSED TO INCREASE OUR, OUR REVENUE AT THE MUNICIPAL COURT, UH, BECAUSE OF THE EASE OF ACCESS OKAY. AS COMPARED TO WHAT WE HAVE NOW, WHICH IS NOT WORKING BECAUSE IT IS ANTIQUATED AND IT, IT DOESN'T HAVE ACCURATE DATES WHENEVER YOU STOP SOMEBODY. AND SO THE JUDGE IS CONSTANTLY SAYING SHE'S GOT TO DISMISS AND TAKE, WELL, I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT. SO WE WERE HAVING ISSUES. IT'S NOT GETTING I HAVE TO A SYSTEM LIKE THIS, LIKE FOUR YEARS AGO. I THINK THE CONSTABLES GOT IT. AND I THINK THE MAJORITY OF DPS HAS BEEN USING IT FOREVER. RIGHT. I, I DON'T KNOW. I HAVEN'T BEEN STUCK. EXCUSE ME, ROBERT. I HAVE. YES, MA'AM. SO, SO, OKAY. UM, , THANK, UM, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND, AND, AND COMPLETE THIS PART OF IT AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK TO IT. BUT, UM, I JUST, BEFORE WE OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS BEFORE I FORGET, I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU, TO GABE AND TO EVERYBODY THAT'S IN THE ROOM, ALL THE DEPARTMENTS I KNOW THAT EVERYBODY HAS, UM, ASKS. AND I KNOW THAT YOU SEE THAT THIS COMMISSION REALLY FOCUSES ON PUBLIC, PUBLIC WORKS, UM, IN TERMS OF, OF, BECAUSE OF THE NEED. AND, AND THAT'S WHAT WE GET. THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF QUESTIONS THAT WE GET FROM THE COMMUNITY, LIKE, YOU KNOW, FIXING NEIGHBORHOODS AND STREETS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. BUT ALL DEPARTMENTS ARE IMPORTANT AND VALUED, APPRECIATED. UM, AND SO AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, IF I FORGET TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY, KNOW THAT I AM REALLY APPRECIATIVE. I THINK EVERYBODY IS DOING A PHENOMENAL JOB. ALL THE DIRECTORS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB. AND SO JUST BECAUSE THINGS DON'T GET FUNDED DOESN'T MEAN YOU DON'T NEED THEM OR, OR DESERVE THEM SOMETIMES. YOU KNOW, WE JUST HAVE TO BALANCE, BALANCE THIS, UM, THIS BUDGET. BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE DONE THAT, I WANNA GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP. AND SO WE CAN GO BACK NOW AND UM, FOR QUESTIONS, WHICH I'M ASSUMING THERE IS GOING TO BE PLENTY. UM, AND SO WE'LL START WITH YOU COMMISSIONER LOPEZ. UM, IF WE CAN GO TO JUST PAGE SLIDE 17, UM, FOR UNFUNDED POSITIONS. KIND OF HITTING ON THE POINT THAT ROBERT STATED EARLIER, THERE'S THREE POSITIONS. IT'S THE NUMBER TWO OR TWO POSITIONS. IT'S THE NUMBER TWO AND THE NUMBER THREE SLOT. SO IT'S THE PART, YEAH, THOSE TWO RIGHT THERE. BUILDING INSPECTIONS. UM, WHAT ARE THOSE? UM, THAT'S JUST ANOTHER PERMIT TECH TO ACTUALLY HELP WITH INTAKE OF PERMITS. UM, THIS, THIS YEAR WE ACTUALLY HIRED AN EXTRA BUILDING OFFICIAL AND A PLANS EXAMINER. SO WE'VE ACTUALLY DONE THAT. WE'VE ACTUALLY HIRED ANOTHER, UH, STREET, UH, WHAT IS IT, INSPECTOR FOR THE, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT? NO, NOT CODE ENFORCEMENT FOR, UH, FOR ENGINEERING. AND SO WHENEVER THERE'S INSPECTION THEY GO OUT AND YOU JUST, IT WAS JUST OSCAR AND I. THERE'S SOMEBODY ELSE HELPING HIM DO THAT. WHERE'S JAVIER? HE'S ON VACATION TODAY. HE'S THE OTHER HEAVY. WE JOEL. JOEL. OKAY. JOEL. BECAUSE YOU KNOW, MY THOUGHT PROCESS ON THIS IS WE DON'T WANT TO, WE WANT TO AVOID LOG JAMS IN PLACES THAT CAN BRING IN MONEY, RIGHT? MM-HMM. . AND IF WE'RE GOING SLOW ON BUILDING PERMITS, THINGS LIKE THAT, WHY NOT FUND THOSE SLOTS SO THAT WE CAN GET MORE MONEY COMING IN FASTER? RIGHT. WE WANT DEVELOPMENT TO GET HERE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. I AGREE. I AGREE THAT THOSE ARE MONEY GENERATORS PLUS NOT JUST CORRECT IMMEDIATE REVENUE FOR THE CITY, BUT LONG TERM THEY, WITH UH, HOUSING CONSTRUCTION GOING UP WITH [01:05:01] COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION GOING UP, GENERATING RETAIL SALES, THEY, THEY ALL, THAT'S WHAT DRIVES THE ECONOMY, SO. CORRECT. AND SO, UH, SO YOU JUST CUT 'EM JUST 'CAUSE WE NEEDED TO CUT FUNDING, RIGHT? YEAH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER SLOTS LIKE THIS GABE, THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT IN THE, BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT BUDGET FOR POSITIONS THAT WILL HELP US, UH, AVOID THOSE LOG JAMS OR UNJAM THEM? UM, SO I THINK SINCE WE HAVE JOELLE HERE, WE CAN ASK, UM, YOU, BECAUSE YOU'RE MOSTLY FAMILIAR RIGHT? WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR, IN YOUR DEPARTMENT. IF, 'CAUSE I'M LOOKING IN AT THESE REALLY DON'T, TO ME, I'M NOT SURE WHAT AN A BUILDING INSPECTIONS ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT IS, UM, WHAT THEIR FUNCTION WOULD BE OR IF THERE'S ALREADY ONE, AND THIS IS A SECOND ONE. UM, BUT IF, WHAT, WHAT POSITIONS WOULD BE MOST ADVANTAGEOUS TO YOUR DEPARTMENT TO ENSURE THAT YOU CAN DEAL WITH THE INCREASED VOLUME OF, OF PERMITS THAT HAVE BEEN APPLIED FOR THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT? WELL, CERTAINLY WE, WE CAN GET ANOTHER BUILDING PERMIT TECHNICIAN OR ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT THAT, THAT WOULD ASSIST WITH THE CUSTOMERS IN PROCESSING THE PERMITS OR WHEN THEY COME IN WE CAN ROUTE 'EM TO THE APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENTS FOR REVIEW. THEY CAN ASSIST WITH ANSWERING THE CALLS. 'CAUSE WE GET A LOT OF CALLS. WE GET A LOT OF TRAFFIC IN THE BUILDING INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENTS. ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE, THE GROWTH THAT THE CITY HAS. WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT IS IN A COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY SUBDIVISION. SO THIS WOULD ASSIST PROVIDING BETTER CUSTOMER SERVICE EVEN MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY PROVIDING NOW. 'CAUSE WE GET A, LIKE I SAID, WE GET A LOT OF TRAFFIC IN THE BUILDING INSPECTION DEPARTMENT AND EVEN IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WE GET A LOT OF TRAFFIC. BUT THE SUB NEW SUBDIVISIONS COMING IN AND THE NEW, UH, BUILDING PERMITS, THIS WOULD HELP WITH THE CUSTOMERS. 'CAUSE I KNOW SOMETIMES THEY MAY SAY THAT THE PHONE IS NOT BEING ANSWERED, BUT THEY'RE NOT BEING ANSWERED BECAUSE THEY'RE DEALING WITH A CUSTOMER THAT THAT'S IN THE, IN THE OFFICE. AND THEN, SO IT'S SOME, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT THEIR PERMIT AT THAT TIME OR THEY WANT IT YESTERDAY IN FACT. 'CAUSE WHICH THE STAFF DOES, TRIES TO DO THE VERY BEST OF TRYING TO GET THEIR PERMIT REVIEWED AND PROCESSED IN A TIMELY MANNER. AND WE DO IT WITH A SMALL STAFF COMPARED TO WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE. MM-HMM. . SO, UM, THREE PO THREE, WHAT THREE POSITIONS WOULD YOU THINK IF YOU, IF WHAT THREE POSITIONS WOULD BE MOST HELPFUL TO THE DEPARTMENT? SOMEONE TO ANSWER THE PHONE OR WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE TO I GUESS ANSWER THE PHONE? I DEAL WITH THE CUSTOMERS, UH, AS WELL AS PROCESSING. PROCESSING THE PERMITS WHEN SCHEDULING THE PERMITS WHEN THEY COME IN. THOSE WOULD PROBABLY BE THE MOST HELPFUL. ANSWERING THE PHONE AND ASSISTING THE CUSTOMERS WHEN THEY COME IN FOR THE PERMITS. SO THE ANSWERING SOME, SO SOME CITIES, AND I THINK I TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST YEAR, AROUND THIS TIME, SOME CITIES HAVE A DEPARTMENT THAT JUST ANSWERS PHONES. LIKE YOU CONTACT, UM, I DON'T KNOW, 2, 1, 1 OR THREE WHATEVER. THE 6 1 1, SOME CASES SOMETHING, SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. AND THERE'S ONE LOCATION WHERE THE PHONES ARE JUST ANSWERED AND THEN TRANSFERRED TO THE APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENT. WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL AT ALL? LIKE WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS, WHAT ARE THE CHALLENGES THAT YOU ARE EXPERIENCING IN, IN THE DEPARTMENT? ARE THEY MOSTLY RELATED TO PHONE CALLS OR IN PERSON? UH, IT'S A COMBINATION OF BOTH BECAUSE YOU HAVE SOME THAT COME IN AND THEN OF COURSE WHEN, WHEN THE, THE PERMIT CLERK IS DEALING WITH A CUSTOMER, THEN THE PHONE IS RINGING. AND OF COURSE WHEN YOU DON'T ANSWER THE PHONE, THEY COMPLAIN WELL THEY'RE NOT ANSWERING THE PHONE BECAUSE OF COURSE THEY'RE DEALING WITH A CUSTOMER THAT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM. AND OF COURSE THE CUSTOMER IN FRONT OF 'EM DOESN'T WANT TO BE INTERRUPTED WITH YOU ANSWERING THE PHONE. SO, MM-HMM. THEY TRY TO BALANCE BOTH AT THE SAME TIME IN A, IN A CUSTOMER FRIENDLY, UH, ENVIRONMENT. 'CAUSE THEY, YOU KNOW, TRY TO ASSIST THE CUSTOMER AS BEST AS THEY CAN PROVIDING THE CUSTOMER SERVICE. BUT EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE WAITING ON AT THAT TIME AND THEY, SOMETIMES THE PERMIT CLERK CANNOT NOT BE DOING, ANSWERING THE PHONE AND DEALING WITH A CUSTOMER. 'CAUSE THE CUSTOMER MAY GET UPSET AND SOME, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THEY'RE BEING INTERRUPTED. BUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE BUILDING INSPECTION, ANOTHER PERMIT TECHNICIAN WOULD BE HELPFUL OR EVEN THAT ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TO ASSIST WITH, UH, ANSWERING THE PHONE CALLS. I JUST GO BACK TO THAT MEETING THAT YOU AND I ATTENDED. RIGHT. AND YOU JUST, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS DEPARTMENT IS HUMMING MM-HMM. AGAIN, ALL THE, THE HEALTHY CANS TO GET THAT MONEY INTO THE CITY COFFERS, LIKE GABE SAID. OKAY. LET ME, SO NOT, UM, ONE SECOND. UM I'M REALLY NOT HEARING, AND I NOT, YOU MAY HAVE SAID IT, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT EXACTLY WOULD, WOULD HELP IN TERMS OF, 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ONE PERMIT CLERK OR THERE'S TWO, BUT THERE'S, UH, THREE, THREE PERMIT, UH, CLERKS. AND THOSE, THOSE INDIVIDUALS ALSO ANSWER PHONES. THEY ANSWER, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ANSWER THE PHONES. AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT DEAL WITH THE CUSTOMERS THAT COME IN TO, UH, WHETHER THEY HAVE AN INQUIRY ABOUT APPLYING FOR A PERMIT. THEY DO. THEY DO BOTH AT THE SAME TIME. AND THESE ARE THE GIRLS THAT WHEN YOU WALK IN, [01:10:01] RIGHT, THEY, THEY'RE AT THE VERY FRONT. THEY, THEY, I WOULD PREFER TO BE CALLED THE GIRL. UM, GONNA BE 50. SO IF YOU WANNA CALL ME A GIRL SENIOR, THAT IS SENIORA. SO WITH THE LADIES, THE BEAUTIFUL LADIES AT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, UM, AT THE WINDOW, THESE, THIS IS, THESE ARE THE GIRLS. THESE ARE THE LADIES THAT ANSWER THE PHONE AND ATTEND TO THE CUSTOMERS. CORRECT? YES. OKAY. AND SO THERE'S NOT SOMEONE THAT IS JUST IDENTIFIED OR THAT THEIR DUTIES ARE TO ANSWER PHONES? NO, THEY, THE, THE, THE PERMIT CLERKS ARE THE ONES THAT ANSWER THE PHONES. THAT THEY ALSO DEAL WITH THE CUSTOMERS UP FRONT. OKAY. 'CAUSE I THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS A, WAS THERE A MOVE AT ONE POINT TO HAVE SOMEONE JUST TO ANSWER THE PHONES? 'CAUSE ISN'T THAT DIDN'T NO, THEY SAID THAT THIS WAS THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS THAT IT'S HARD FOR THEM TO GET THE WORK DONE BECAUSE THEY'RE ALWAYS BEING INTERRUPTED WITH PEOPLE CALLING, PEOPLE COMING IN AND SO FORTH. YOU NEED PEOPLE DEDICATED JUST TO NOT OUT THE PERMITS, JUST TO DO THE PERMITS AND JUST TO DO CERTAIN ASPECTS. SO, SO YEAH. I, I, I DEFINITELY THINK, AND THIS IS MY OPINION, AND THEN WE CAN, WE AGREE OR, OR DISAGREE, BUT THE PERSON THAT IS AT THE WINDOW SHOULD NOT BE ANSWERING THE PHONES BECAUSE THEY'RE THERE TO ATTEND TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE, ARE WALKING IN. 'CAUSE IT JUST, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE BUSY TO THE PERSON ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THEM, THEY'RE FRUSTRATED AND AGITATED BECAUSE THEY'RE ON THE PHONE EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE DOING THEIR JOB WHILE, YOU KNOW, WORKING. SO MAYBE THAT PHONE ANSWERING NEEDS TO BE SOMEWHERE ELSE AND NOT, UM, AT, AT THE WINDOW. IS THAT POSSIBLE? COULD WE, WE THINK, COULD THAT BE A, PER A, A POSITION IF, IF WE HIRE SOMEBODY ELSE TO HELP THAT DEPARTMENT IN THAT AREA, WE COULD GET IT SPLIT UP. SO THAT TWO MAY BE ANSWERING PHONES AND THEN TWO ARE WORKING ON, UH, PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY SHOW UP. MM-HMM. THE, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. UP, I THINK MOD FRANK HAS BEEN, OH, I'M SORRY. PATIENTLY WAITING. BUT, UM, I THINK WE COULD DO THAT IF WE HIRE ONE MORE PERSON. 'CAUSE WE CAN'T, RIGHT NOW WE ONLY HAVE THREE AND WE CAN'T MAKE IT WORK WITH THAT. RIGHT. SO I THINK YOUR SUGGESTION WAS KIND OF RESEARCH THIS AND BRING IT BACK TO US, OR, OH, NOT ONLY THIS, THIS WAS ONE I SPOTTED JUST MYSELF. BUT FOR GABE TO LOOK AT WHERE ARE FINANCIAL LOG JAMS AND UNBLOCK 'EM FOR OTHERS POSITIONS. AND IT'S MAINLY THERE. 'CAUSE EVEN ON OCCASION TO ASSIST THEM EVEN PROVIDING BETTER CUSTOMER SERVICE, WE HAVE THE SECRETARY FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT THAT ALSO HELPS WITH ANSWERING THE PHONE CALLS, EVEN THOUGH, OF COURSE PLANNING HAS THEIR OWN CUSTOMERS TO DEAL WITH. MM-HMM. THE SUBDIVISIONS WITH FREE ZONINGS WITH SPECIFIC USE PERMITS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW. SO WHEN, WHEN WE DID THE EVERGREEN STUDY, DID IT IDENTIFY HOW MANY, UM, LIKE IF THEY WERE UNDERSTAFFED OR OVERSTAFFED, LIKE YES, IT DID. AND SO WHAT DID, WHAT CAME OUT OF THERE? UH, MAYOR, I, THAT WAS OVER A YEAR AGO. I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT. I DON'T REMEMBER. UM, I KNOW I REMEMBERED THE ONES THAT WERE OVERSTAFFED AND SO DID THEY I REMEMBER THAT TOO. UM, BUT I, I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT, IT TOOK INTO ACCOUNT THE, THE, THE, THE BIG, UM, CHANGE IN TERMS OF VOLUME, UM, BECAUSE IT WAS RIGHT WHEN WE CAME ON. RIGHT. SO IT WOULD NOT HAVE NO, BECAUSE WE HAD THE SPIKE IN BUILDING PERMITS AFTER WE MADE THE CHANGES TO SOME OF THE POLICIES IN PLACE. MM-HMM. . UM, AND SO THAT HAPPENED THE FOLLOWING YEAR. AND THEN, UH, EVEN NOW THE TREND IS CONTINUING. WE'VE SURPASSED THE, THE DOLLAR MONTH FROM 2012 MM-HMM. . SO, BECAUSE THE POSITIONS I'M LOOKING AT ARE THESE TWO POSITIONS BUILDING INSPECTORS TO GO OUT ON SITE TO DO THEM. LIKE, LIKE A MI LIKE MR. MARTINEZ. YOU ONLY HAVE ONE OF HIM, RIGHT? WELL, NO, WE HAVE HAVE TWO. WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE, A ASSISTANT. OH, HIS ASSISTANT. YEAH. THE ASSISTANT BUILDING OFFICIAL. SO HAS THAT HELPED? IT HAS HELPED, YES. YOU PROBABLY NEED ONE MORE. UH, NO, NO. I WOULD SAY THEY, YOU'RE GOOD. THE ASSISTANT DEPUTY OFFIC, THE DEPUTY BUILDING OFFICIAL HAS HELPED WITH THAT, UH, WITH THE, FANTASTIC, OKAY. IF I MAY, WHERE DO WE STAND WITH THE GISI DON'T SEE ANY GIS UH, TECHNICIAN THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR. IT'S RIGHT. UH, JS TEXT SANITATION THAT'S UNDER SANITATION, BUT DON'T THINK YOU NEED ONE. IN THE PAST, I KNOW THAT JAVIER CERVANTES REQUESTED THAT WE USED TO HAVE ONE SEVERAL YEARS AGO THAT FUNDING WAS, UH, ELIMINATED. ELIMINATED TO TRANSFER TO A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT. AND WE, WE DO OUR OWN MAPPING. WE, THE, OUR PLANNERS DO THE OWN GIS MAPPING AS WELL AS DO PRESENT THE CASES AND PREPARE THE CASES, WHEREAS, YOU KNOW. SO YOUR DEPARTMENT, IS IT PLANNING OR IS IT IT'S PLANNING. PLANNING. IT'S PLANNING DEPARTMENT. OF COURSE. WE ALSO OVERSEE, UH, BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND CODE COMPLIANCE. OKAY. SEE, BECAUSE I'M UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT IN THE PAST, WHICH I KNOW JAVIT HAS ASKED ANTES FOR A GIS PERSON. OKAY. AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I THINK THE PD HAS ALSO, THEY HAVE ONE THAT THEY COULD USE. AND THEN I SEE ONE HERE GOING THROUGH THIS BRIEFLY. UM, [01:15:02] THE SANITATION'S ASKING FOR A GIS THE WHOLE CITY HAS ONE GIS PERSON, RIGHT? BRENT? HE, HE'S NOT REALLY GIS HE DOESN'T, HE'S DOES MAPPING. HE DOES MAPPING. YEAH. AM I CON AM I CONFUSED WITH GIS AND SLASH MAPPING? IT'S THE SAME THING. LIKE THE, IN OUR, IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD ONE SEVERAL YEARS AGO, AND OF COURSE WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS THE PLANNERS DO THE GIS WORK. THEY MADE THE MAPS THAT YOU SEE AT THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING FOR, IT'S FOR THE ZONING MAP TO REZONE THE CASE OR FOR AN ANNEXATION MAP, OR TO UPDATE THE THOROUGH FIRM MAP. THE, THE, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT MAINTAINS THAT WITH THE EXISTING PLANNERS THAT WE HAVE WITH THE FIVE MEMBER STAFF THAT WE HAVE. COMMISSIONER, HOW MUCH TIME NO OTHER DEPARTMENT ASKED FOR A GIS PERSON EXCEPT FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IN THE PAST THEY HAVE. SO I'M WONDERING IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT TO THE CUT DOWN BECAUSE THE, THE DIRECTOR DIDN'T BRING IT UP. BUT LET ME CHANGE THE SUBJECT HERE, OR JUST PIVOT A LITTLE BIT. ABOUT A YEAR AGO, THERE WAS A SOFTWARE THAT WAS MADE THAT WE PURCHASED TO DO, UH, TO DO THE, UH, PEOPLE CAN APPLY FOR, UH, INSPECTIONS. IS THAT STILL VIABLE? IS THAT BEING USED? IT'S PARTLY BEING USED. IT'S CURRENTLY BEING, UH, IT'S BEING ROLLED OUT. ROLLED OUT. YES. HOW LONG IS THAT GONNA TAKE? 'CAUSE WASN'T IT SUPPOSED TO BE ROLLED OUT LIKE A MONTH OR TWO AGO? THE ISSUE IS THAT THEY HAVEN'T HAD THE TIME. RIGHT. LIKE THEY'RE SO OVERWHELMED WITH PEOPLE COMING TO THE DOOR, PEOPLE CALLING THEM THAT THEY HAVEN'T HAD THE TIME TO BE ABLE TO STOP, SHUT DOWN THE OFFICE, TURN TO DO THE TRAINING. RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO, BY ADDING THESE TWO POSITIONS, YOU CAN PHASE IN THE TRAINING. AND I TOLD HIM AT ONE POINT, I WAS LIKE, SHUT IT DOWN FOR A WEEK. SHUT DOWN PLANNING FOR A WEEK. OH, WE CAN'T DO THAT. I KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD. RIGHT. BUT IT WAS, HOW DO WE GET THESE GUYS TRAINED? CORRECT. BUT BY GETTING THESE TWO POSITIONS, YOU DON'T HAVE A HEART ATTACK ON ME. ALL RIGHT. BUT THE RECORD REFLECTED THAT CITY WILL NOT BE SHUTTING DOWN FOR ONE WEEK. OKAY. TO, TO DO THE TRAINING. THEY NEED THE BODIES FOR IT. YEAH, THEY DO. THEY DO. UH, BUT WE HAVE, WE HAVE ROLLED IT OUT. IT'S NOT AS, UH, EFFICIENT RIGHT NOW AS WE WOULD LIKE IT TO BE. UH, WE'VE HAD A CONTRACTOR THAT ACTUALLY HAS ALREADY STARTED USING IT. THEY, UM, I THINK WE'VE MADE A PAYMENT THROUGH IT ALREADY. SO IT'S, IT'S GOT SOME GLITCHES, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THEM. THE, THE BIG ONE WAS THAT IT WOULDN'T RECOGNIZE OUR BANK AS, UH, THE DEPOSITORY. SO THAT TOOK US ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF TO ACTUALLY GET, I HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT. THAT PAYMENT WHEN YOU MADE IT, DID GO THROUGH THAT. WENT THROUGH? MM-HMM. . OKAY. SO, SO IT, IT'S, WE SHOULD BE UP AND RUNNING REGULARLY. MAYBE WITHIN, I DON'T KNOW. WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT YEAH. UH, THE CONTRACTOR DONE ONE OR TWO PAYMENTS COMPLETE ONLINE, REQUESTED FOR PERMIT. UH, IT, THE PERMIT WAS RECEIVED WITH THE FULL AND PAID FOR. UH, MY RECOMMENDATION WAS TO HAVE TWO MORE PERMITS LIKE THAT TO THE SYSTEM. IS THAT COMPLETE? STUDENT FIXED? SO I SAID A MATTER OF WEEKS. UH, ONCE WE COMPLETELY TEST IT, THEN WE COMPLETELY SAID, HILL, WHY DON'T YOU GET ON THE MIC? ARE WE GETTING A DISCOUNT FOR THIS? NO. 'CAUSE IF IT'S GLITCHES ON THEIR END, NO. NO, WE WE'RE NOT. I'D LIKE TO, BUT NO, WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYTHING. MAYBE THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE HAD, A CONTRACTOR HAS DONE A COMPLETE PERMIT FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END TO REQUEST A PERMIT ONLINE. WE RECEIVED IT HERE. IT WAS REVISED AND APPROVED AND PAID FOR, UH, MY RECOMMENDATION TO DO ADDITIONAL MORE TESTING. SO WE CAN THEN, ONCE WE KNOW IT, IT IS A HUNDRED PERCENT WORKING, THEN WE CAN PUT THE LINK ON THE WEBSITE. SO THIS CONTRACTOR THAT IS USING IT KNOWS THAT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME. MM-HMM. THAT IT'S BEING USED. WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE CONTRACTOR? THAT'S OKAY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO SHARE WITH ME. I'M JUST, YEAH. SO THAT OKAY. IT WAS SO THEY'RE AWARE. MM-HMM. . AND THEY OKAY. ? YES. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. UM, AND SO THEY'RE HAVING ISSUES ON, THEY'RE NOT HAVING ISSUES ON THEIR END, BUT IS STAFF HAVING ANY ISSUES? YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, UM, I GUESS LIKE MR. LOPEZ END, THEY NEED MORE TIME TO GET FAMILIAR WITH THE PROGRAM AND, AND PROBABLY BRING IN A, UH, MORE CONTRACTORS TO TRYING THE, THE, THE NEW SOFTWARE. ONCE ADDITIONAL TESTING IS DONE, THEN WE CAN PUT IT OUT THERE. UH, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD TRAINING FOR STAFF ALREADY. I THINK THEY WERE DOWN HERE FOR A WEEK, RIGHT? YEAH. THE PERSON SURE. YES. MM-HMM, , THERE'S BEEN TRAINING ALREADY. THE THING IS, THEY'VE BEEN SO BUSY DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW THAT THEY HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO ACTUALLY PRACTICE AND, AND IMPLEMENT, UH, THE NEW SOFTWARE. AND WE CAN'T, LIKE, AGAIN, I'M, I, I'M ASSUMING I'M SPIT BALLING. SO WE CAN'T JUST GET PEOPLE FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO COVER FOR THEM FOR A LITTLE BIT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OH, WE, WE, UM, SUPER SPECIALIZED. [01:20:01] I I, I THINK IF, IF WE, IF WE HIRE SOMEBODY ELSE, WE TAN TO BE UPFRONT, THAT MIGHT HELP US DO THAT. BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE AREN'T GONNA BE THE ONES THAT ARE ACCESSING THE SYSTEM. CORRECT. YEAH. THERE'S SOME TECHNICAL ANSWERS. ONLY PREMISE CLERKS KNOW HOW TO ANSWER THEM. SO, SO, UM, HERE'S JUST AN IDEA. UH, I THINK THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND THE, THE STAFF DOES NEED TO BE TRAINED. SO ONE OF, ONE OF TWO THINGS NEEDS TO, NEEDS TO HAPPEN. WE NEED TO HAVE A SCHEDULE OF WHEN THEY'RE GONNA TRAIN AND THEY BE MARRIED TO THAT, TO THAT SCHEDULE. UM, AND, AND FINDING A WAY TO, TO ENSURE THAT IT, IT GETS DONE. OR ALTERNATIVELY, UM, MAYBE THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME KIND OF WEEKEND TRAINING WHERE THEY CAN COME IN ON A SATURDAY, LIKE A FULL DAY AND JUST NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE PHONES. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY HOURLY EMPLOYEES WILL HAVE TO BE COMPENSATED AT SOME, SOME SOMEHOW. AND JUST LIKE WE DO FOR EVENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, UM, OR, I MEAN, THAT'S Y'ALL'S, HOWEVER YOU FIGURE THAT OUT. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, TO BE, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE TIME TO DEDICATE TO THE TRAINING AND UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING AND NOT HAVE THAT STRESS THAT THEY HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, SERVE, SERVE THE CUSTOMERS THAT ARE POTENTIALLY WAITING ON THEM. SO I THINK THAT ONE OF THOSE TWO THINGS. AND THEN PRIORITIZING IT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT GETS DONE. SO THAT WAY THE APARTMENT, THE DEPARTMENT IS WORKING EFFICIENTLY. 'CAUSE IT IS NEVER GONNA SLOW DOWN. HARLINGEN IS MOVING FORWARD. IT'S GONNA GET BUSIER. IT'S GONNA JUST GET BUSIER. AND SO IF WE GO THIS ROUTE, WE'RE NOT GONNA FIND THE TIME TO, TO GET IT DONE. MM-HMM. . SO, I MEAN, WE CAN DO THAT. HOWEVER, WHATEVER YOU THINK IS, IS BEST. I THINK A SATURDAY TRAINING IS PROBABLY GONNA BE THE SOONER, THE SOONER THE BETTER. HOW MANY HOURS DO THEY NEED FOR A FULL TRAINING? UM, PROBABLY 2, 3, 2 DAYS. PROBABLY 16 HOURS. EIGHT HOURS. 16 HOURS. I THINK INVESTING IN HER FULL DAYS DO IT IS IMPORTANT. MM-HMM. BUT WE STILL NEED THE MANPOWER TO BE ABLE TO DO IT ON THE SOFTWARE ITSELF, SO. CORRECT. BUT IF THEY COME IN ON THE WEEKEND YEAH. AND THEY'RE ABLE TO KIND OF KNOCK IT OUT WITHOUT THAT STRESS, IT'S STRESS, THINK THAT'S THE BEST, UM, SOLUTION. MM-HMM. . BECAUSE IF NOT, THEN YOU'D SAY, OKAY, WELL WE'RE GONNA HAVE A TRAINING SCHEDULE, AND THEN THEY GET AN HOUR, MAYBE TWO PER DAY, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE WAY IT IS, YOU'RE IN, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO, I NEED TIME TO KIND OF GET BACK TO WHERE YOU WERE. IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT REALLY CONDUCIVE. RIGHT? YEAH, EXACTLY. SO, ALRIGHT. BUT, ALL RIGHT. OKAY. THAT'S THE ONE, THE, THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. BUT LET'S GET BACK TO THE SOFTWARE. SO THE, THE ISSUES IS JUST ON PERSONNEL, OUR SIDE. YEAH. JUST WHAT, WHAT OTHER CITIES IN THE, IN THE VALLEY USE THE SAME SOFTWARE? UH, I KNOW CITY OF BRO IS TALKING TO THE VENDOR TRYING TO, TO, TO MOVE TO THE SOFTWARE THAT WE HAVE NOW. OKAY. IS THERE ANY OTHER CITIES THAT'S USED GENERATOR? UM, SERIAL LAYER HAS BEEN USING IT FOR A WHILE. WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE? LORETO. LARO, WHAT ELSE? UH, I CAN'T TELL YOU, BUT THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT I KNOW HERE NEARBY. MM-HMM. , THE REASON I'M ASKING MM-HMM. IS BECAUSE THE CONTRACTORS, THEY'LL BE VERY FAMILIAR WITH WHAT THEY'RE USING AND THEY'LL BE ALL OVER THIS ONE. LIKE, WHY DON'T SNOW? OKAY. SO THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING. AND, AND I DO REALIZE I DON'T WANNA BE NEGATIVE HERE. MM-HMM. . BUT IT'S BEEN WELL OVER A YEAR THAT WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS SOFTWARE. MM-HMM. . OKAY. NOW IT TURNS OUT THAT THE ONLY THING WE HAVE GOING ON THAT'S HOLDING US BACK IS A TRAINING FOR THE EMPLOYEES. AND WE DO HAVE SOME MAJOR GROWTH THAT'S COMING INTO TOWN. SO WE CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER. THE MAYOR MADE A HECK OF A SUGGESTION. THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A NO-BRAINER. DO IT ON THE WEEKENDS. DO WEEKENDS, THREE WEEKENDS, GIVE THE STAFF A BREAK. YEAH. I MEAN, TO ME IT'S AN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A NO BRAINER. MM-HMM. IF THAT'S BEEN THE, IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S BEEN THE GLITCH, WE SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS A LONG TIME AGO. I AGREE. YOU COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE OH, I GOT, YEAH, I GOT IT. YEAH. UM, ON PAGE 13, UM, WHERE SAYS SANITATION AND IT'S LIKE THE $2,000,864 AND 7 0 6. GABE, CAN THAT ALL COME FROM THE SANITATION FUND? UH, I'M SORRY. CAN YOU, CAN YOU, UH, ON PAGE 13. OKAY. YOU KNOW HOW THEY'RE ASKING FOR, UM, ALL THAT STUFF, UM, THAT WOULD COME, THAT WOULD, THAT COULD COME FROM THE SANITATION FUND? YES, FROM THE FUND. OKAY. DON'T WE HAVE LIKE 14 MILLION OR 13 MILLION IN THE SANITATION FUND? UM, HANG ON, I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW. ROBERT, WHAT SLIDE WAS THAT ON WITH THE FUND? UM, OH YEAH. BALANCE. SLIDE 13. NO, THE, WITH THE FUND BALANCES. OH, IT'S 15. UH, YOU LISTED THEM SOMEWHERE ON THE FUND BALANCES. I JUST DON'T [01:25:01] KNOW WHAT'S, BY THE TIME, WHAT WOULD, WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL NEXT TIME WHEN WE HAVE THINGS LIKE THIS. JUST A SUGGESTION. IS IT HAVE LIKE A LITTLE INDEX AND SOME TABS SO THAT WAY WE CAN LIKE THIS OH, LIKE THE BUDGET? YES. YEAH. YEAH. LIKE THE, LIKE THE BIBLE. BUT IN A MINI ONE, HANDY LITTLE POCKET GUY. . I KNOW, I, I, IT'S, I I TRIED. YEAH. NO. MM-HMM. IT'S DAUNTING. I TOLD GABE IT WAS MY READING MATERIAL ON THE ROAD BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE, WHAT? YEAH, I WOULD DO THAT ON VACATION. SO SANITATION IS, UH, SECOND LINE, THE 15 MILLION? YES. OKAY. CAN YOU, CAN YOU ELABORATE MORE ON THAT? LIKE HOW THAT WORKS, CHRISTOPHER? LIKE COULD THIS, ALL THE STUFF THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING ON THE SANITATION FUND, COULD THAT BE USED THAT WOULD COME DIRECTLY FROM THAT FUND OR WOULD IT COME FROM THE GENERAL FUND? OR HOW WOULD THAT WORK? SO IT'S AN ENTERPRISE FUND. YEAH. SO EVERYTHING WILL COME OUT OF THOSE 15 MILLION. OKAY. AND THAT MONEY'S JUST AS OF RIGHT NOW IS JUST THERE IF THAT'S THE . SO, SO THE WAY THESE WORK ON, ON ENTERPRISE FUNDS, UH, THEY WORK LIKE A BUSINESS. SO, SO THEY MAY HAVE CAP FIXED ASSETS THAT ARE IN THERE. SO THAT FUND BALANCE, THAT 15 MILLION INCLUDES, UH, INCLUDES, UH, TRUCKS, SHOVELS, YEAH. IT INCLUDES EVERYTHING, WHATEVER THEY OWN, LIKE BUILDINGS. OKAY. SO HOW MUCH CASH, LIKE LIQUIDITY DO WE HAVE? UH, I CAN, I CAN GO GET THAT FOR YOU. OKAY. OKAY. NEXT TIME I'LL GET YOU WHAT THE UM, WHAT THE UH, WHAT THE UNRESTRICTED, UH, OR , BECAUSE THESE, SOME THAT ARE THESE REQUESTS, COMMISSIONER WERE ENTERED IN A SUPPLEMENTAL. SO THEY, THEY ENTERED THEM AS A, AS NEEDING THEM, BUT THEY WEREN'T CUT FROM THE BUDGET. THEY WERE JUST, UH, SUBMITTED TO SAYING CONSIDER THIS FOR THE BUDGET. SO YEAH. YEAH. I'M GETTING THAT. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS LIKE, IN ORDER FOR US TO FUND IT, THEY CAN COME ON, WE CAN'T GET IT FROM THE SANITATION FUND. SO IT WOULDN'T CUT, IT WOULDN'T, IT WOULDN'T LIKE INTERFERE WITH THE OTHER STUFF. NO. AND IT'S A SEPARATE ENTERPRISE FUND. THAT'S CORRECT. AND I THINK CHRIS WAS SAYING THAT HE NEEDED THE, UH, DUMP TRUCKS, THE FRONT, THE FRONT LOADERS FOR COMMERCIAL. THAT IS CORRECT. UH, WE'RE ASKING FOR TWO FRONT LOADERS, TWO COMMERCIAL SILOS AND TWO RESIDENTIAL, UH, TRUCKS. RIGHT NOW WE ARE STRUGGLING, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO, TO SERVICE ALL OF OUR ROUTES. I MEAN, EVERY YEAR THERE'S AN INCREASE IN, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE, RIGHT. UH, WHETHER IT'S COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL, RESIDENTIAL. AND SO WE'VE HAD THE SAME AMOUNT OF TRUCKS, UH, SINCE, YOU KNOW, HARLINGEN STARTED BASICALLY. AND SO WE, WE WERE BLESSED BY, BY YOU ALL, ALLOWING US TO GET AN ADDITIONAL THREE TRUCKS TO INCREASE THE THREE ROUTES FOR RESIDENTIAL. BUT THE, THE MATTER OF THE FACT THAT BUSINESSES ARE STILL COMING IN AND, AND WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING TO HAVE OUR STAFF WORK LONGER, THE SAME TRUCKS FOR COMMERCIAL, LIKE GOING OUT THERE AND SERVICING, YOU KNOW, BUFFALO WINGS, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE PLACES THAT JUST DON'T STOP. AND SO THEY KEEP COMING IN AND WE'RE STILL DOING EVERYTHING WITH THE, WITH THE SAME EVENT TRUCKS THAT WE HAVE. YEAH. AND ONE THING I WANT TO, UH, POINT OUT, AND THIS IS TO CHRISTOPHER AND HIS WHOLE TEAM, IS I KNOW WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS TRANSITION PERIOD WHERE WE'RE SWITCHING THE ROUTE SYSTEM THAT WE DID, I WAS EXPECTING TO GET LIKE A LOT OF CALLS THAT, YOU KNOW, OH MY, YOU KNOW, MY TRASH ARE GETTING PICKED UP OR THIS IS GOING ON AND I'VE GOT NOTHING BUT GOOD POSITIVE THINGS. AND WHENEVER SOMETHING'S BEEN MISSED, I CALL CHRISTOPHER AND IT GETS PICKED UP AND THEY GIMME A CALL BACK OR LIKE, OH, THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO HIM AND HIS TEAM HAVE BEEN DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB, UM, WITH THAT WHOLE, UH, TRANSITION PHASE. AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO START BEING PROACTIVE. UM, AND I KNOW BEFORE IT WASN'T THAT PROACTIVE THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO THAT, BUT I JUST THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PROACTIVE AND GET, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE SEE THAT'S GOOD, THERE'S GONNA BE A NEED IN THE FUTURE, WE SHOULD JUST GO AHEAD AND GET IT. ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE THE MONEY JUST SITTING THERE. UM, WE NEED TO SPEND IT. AND, AND I THINK COMMISSIONER THESE, UH, PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THAT HE'S ASKING FOR, I THINK WE ARE, WE'RE GONNA RECOMMEND THAT YOU FUND THEM. OKAY. SANITATION FUND BALANCE. AND SO THAT'S CRITICAL AS WELL BECAUSE, UM, THE QUESTION THAT WAS MADE TO OSCAR, HOW LONG THOSE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT FOR, FOR PAVING ARE TAKING? WELL, THOSE ARE A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO GET, BUT THE ONES FOR SANITATION, ESPECIALLY THESE, THESE TYPE OF UNITS, THEY, THEY'RE TAKING ANYWHERE FROM 24 MONTHS TO 36 MONTHS TO GET. OH GOODNESS. AND SO, UM, LUCKILY WE HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH, WITH, UH, WITH, UM, OHIO. RIGHT? AND SO THEY, ONE OF, ONE OF THE REPS IS HERE. AND SO THEY, THEY USUALLY, YOU KNOW, CATER TO US WHEN WE NEED SOMETHING TO WHERE THEY, THEY KIND OF PUT US ON THE FRONT OF THE LINE. AND SO WE'RE BLESSED BY, BY HAVING THEM ON, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, AS A, AS A, AS A GOOD WORKING, UH, UNITY WITH THEM. SO, UM, THAT, THAT'S WHY HE'S HERE. BECAUSE IN THE EVENT THAT YOU ALL DO FUND THIS, UM, HE WILL CONSIDER US PLACING ON, PLACING US ON THE, ON THE, ON NUMBER ONE, THEIR LIST. IS HE GONNA GIVE US A DISCOUNT? HE IS, YES. LOOK AT HIS SMILE. IT'S GONNA BE FREE. OH MY GOODNESS. MIGHT ONE GET ONE FREE. SOMETHING LIKE THAT, CHRIS. SO WITH THE, THE ADDITIONAL GEAR, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PURCHASING, PAVING AND ALL THIS, I MEAN, DO WE HAVE ADEQUATE MECHANICS TO NO, I DON'T, [01:30:01] I DON'T SEE THAT LISTED ANYWHERE. RIGHT. SO I I, I WAS GONNA MENTION ALSO THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE WE, WE ARE REQUESTING TWO ADDITIONAL MECHANICS THROUGH THE ENTERPRISE FUND, ALSO WITH A SERVICE WRITER. WE, WE ARE EXTREMELY SHORTHANDED WHEN IT COMES TO THE MECHANICS OUT ON THE FLEET. UM, WE HAVE CLOSE TO 428 VEHICLES THAT WE SERVICE. UM, YOU KNOW, AND SO A LOT OF THESE VEHICLES GO IN NOT JUST ONCE A YEAR. THEY LIKE POLICE UNITS. THEY GO IN THERE SOMETIMES SIX, SEVEN TIMES OUT OF THE YEAR. RIGHT. AND, UM, THE AMOUNT OF MECHANICS THAT WE HAVE IS JUST, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT'S NOT DOABLE. ALRIGHT. AND SO THAT IS, THAT IS BEING REQUESTED THROUGH THE ENTERPRISE FUND. SO THANK YOU. JUST TO KIND OF, UM, RECAP. I KNOW THAT EVERYBODY HERE KNOWS THAT YOU'RE DOING AN AMAZING JOB AND THANK YOU. AND IT'S HARD TO DO WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE ALL THE RESOURCES THAT YOU, THAT YOU NEED ALL THE EQUIPMENT STAFF AND ALL OF THAT. SO, UM, IN TERMS OF JUST LIKE WE DO WITH THE GENERAL FUND, WHERE WE NEED TO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT AND YOU PRESENT THAT TO US IN TERMS OF THIS IS THE OPERATING DAYS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE IN THE GENERAL FUND, THEN WE NEED TO KNOW AS A COMMISSION, OR AT LEAST I DO MAYBE MIKE, 'CAUSE HE'S BEEN HERE THE LONG, HE'S THE, HE'S THE SENIOR CITIZEN OF THE, OF THE, OF THE, OF THE COMMISSION. BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS A COMPLIMENT COMMISSION. YES, YES. IT WAS, IT WAS, UM, I NEED TO KNOW WHAT IS RECOMMENDED IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE AND THEN WHAT IS ACTUAL CASH THAT CAN BE USED SO THAT WAY WE CAN BE RESPONSIBLE AND THEN GET AS MUCH AS IS THAT IS NEEDED. UM, AND MAX THAT OUT, WHAT WE CAN DO IN TERMS OF EQUIPMENT AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE, THE POSITIONS THAT, THAT YOU NEED. SO I THINK WE JUST, WE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS. 'CAUSE I REALLY, I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT ON THIS SLIDE 28, YOU WOULD'VE HAD TWO MORE COLUMNS. ONE COLUMN WOULD HIT YOUR QUESTION, WHICH IS LIQUIDITY, HOW MUCH DOLLAR AMOUNT WE HAVE. AND THEN YOURS IS, WE CAN'T SPEND THIS MUCH LIKE WE, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. LIKE RIGHT, RIGHT. JUST SO THAT WAY, I MEAN, WE DON'T WANNA BREAK THE BANK EITHER, RIGHT. WE WANNA FOLLOW WHATEVER THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE. UM, AND I JUST DON'T KNOW FOR THIS ENTERPRISE FUND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. UM, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE A, A STATED DOLLAR AMOUNT LIKE WE DO FOR THE GENERAL FUND. CORRECT. BUT YOUR WEALTH OF EXPERIENCE ALONG WITH WE, WE COME UP WITH A NUMBER. YES. YEAH. OKAY. SO THE QUESTION IS, HOW MUCH CAN WE AFFORD TO TAKE OUT OF THE FUND, OUT OF THE LIQUIDITY PART OF THE FUND AND NOT HURT THE FUND OR THAT PART OF THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY. CORRECT. WE NEED TO BE PRUDENT. CORRECT. YES, YOU'RE RIGHT. RIGHT. BUT I AGREE. AND YOU KNOW, I, I THINK EVERYBODY HERE SEES THE PHENOMENAL WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING. WE WANT THE MOMENTUM TO CONTINUE. WE WANT YOU TO HAVE THE THINGS THAT YOU, THAT THE THINGS THAT YOU NEED. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS FUND IS FOR, RIGHT? TO BE ABLE TO FUND THESE TYPES OF, OF NEEDS FOR YOUR DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU FOR THE CONSIDERATION. MM-HMM. , I HAVE ONE FOR YOU. LAST YEAR. UH, YOU DON'T REQUEST, YOU DID NOT REQUEST ANY, UH, STREET SWEEPERS. WHEN ARE YOU GONNA DO THAT? WE DID REQUEST THE THING THERE AND THERE. DON'T, PAGE 13. 13. YEAH. I THINK IT WAS 13 SWEEPERS. IS THAT THE, NO, PAGE 11. I'M SORRY. PAGE THREE, TWO. HOW MUCH, WHAT WOULD BE THE TOTAL OF STREET SWEEPERS YOU HAVE? IF WE WERE TO GET THIS, WHICH I HOPE WE DO, WE WOULD HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL, IF THESE ARE FUNDED, WE WOULD HAVE FIVE. SO WE WOULD HAVE ONE PER DISTRICT. PERFECT. NICE. THIS WOULD BE OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. IT'S STILL UNDER THE NON-FUNDED. SO JUST TOO EXCITED. SO THAT COULDN'T BE USED FOR OUT PRICE. THERE'S NOT THAT LOT. THERE'S, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE. THERE'S NOT A LOT MONEY TO WORK WITH BECAUSE IT'S A DIFFERENT FUND WHERE IT'S BEING PURCHASED FROM. I, SO THESE WILL BE ALLOCATED FOR STREETS, WHICH IS A GENERAL FUND, BUT THEN THE FUND THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR WILL COME FROM ENTERPRISE. SO IT IS A DIFFERENT FUND, WHICH IS WHY WAS NOT ON THAT OTHER SHEET. UM, AND I'D OKAY. THEN I HAD OTHER QUESTIONS. UH, THIS WAS FOR SET HILL REAL QUICK. SET HILL. I KNOW DANIEL AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO YOU ABOUT THE, UM, ABOUT THE APP. AND I NOTICED IT'S, I DON'T THINK, I DIDN'T THINK I SAW IT HERE. SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO ASK FOR TOO? 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT. IT'S, IT'S NOT ON THE BUDGET AND IT'S NOT ON THE, ON THE CURRENT BUDGET OR THE NEW BUDGET. I THINK YOU WOULD, YOU HAD SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO ACTUALLY HAVE A BUDGET MENT FOR THAT. IT'S, IT'S AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA TOMORROW. OH, OKAY. WHAT, WHAT APP ARE YOU REFERRING TO? THE MOBILE APP. MOBILE APP FOR THE CITIZEN'S REQUEST. MM-HMM. . IT'S LIKE, WHAT, 20,000, 40,000. HOW MANY YOU, YOU, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T, DON'T FEEL PRESSURED, BUT HOW MANY PEOPLE USE THE APP? DO YOU HAVE A USER'S? UH, WE'RE ABOUT A THOUSAND. WE GET ABOUT A [01:35:01] THOUSAND REQUESTS FROM CITIZENS A YEAR. 1000? 1000? 80. 80, UH, A WEEK? MORE OR LESS? NO, A MONTH. OH, 20 A WEEK. WAIT A MINUTE. ABOUT 20 SOMETHING A WEEK? YES. OKAY. AND AND AN AVERAGE. YEAH. OKAY. I, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY HAVE TO PROMOTE NOW THAT WE HAVE THE MEDIA DEPARTMENT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IF WE DO GET THE, THE APP, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO PUSH AND PUSH AND PUSH. AND, UM, SO THAT WAY PEOPLE CAN BE, THE MAJORITY OF THE PHONE CALLS I GET ARE THINGS THAT YEAH. WHEN YOU TELL THEM, HEY, OH BY THE WAY, LOOK HERE AND YOU CAN HAVE DONE THIS YOURSELF. AND, UH, THEY, THEY'D RATHER CALL ME. YEAH. WE NEED, I WAS GONNA SAY, EVEN THOUGH I DIRECT THEM TO THE APP, THAT DOESN'T YEAH. 'CAUSE EVEN WHEN LIKE I USE IT, I'M ONE OF THOSE USERS BECAUSE I USE IT. UM, 'CAUSE EVERY TIME I DO, WHEN I DO MY, MY BIMONTHLY THOUGH DRIVE AROUNDS IN MY DISTRICT, THAT'S WHAT I USE. WHEN I SEE PORTALS AND STUFF, I USE THE APP. SAME HERE. AND THAT'S WHEN I'M USING IT. I KNOW DANNY USED IT FOR THE STREETLIGHTS IN HIS DISTRICT, SO THAT THAT'S WHAT WE USE. SO I KNOW IT'S VERY EFFECTIVE. YEAH, IT'S VERY CONVENIENT. AND WE, WE ARE LOOKING INTO DOING SOME, UH, IMPROVEMENTS. YEP. ADDING SOME FEATURES TO IT. YEP. SO WE FIRST, UH, RELEASED IT IN, UH, FEBRUARY, 2018. SO IT'S DUE FOR AN UPGRADE. MM-HMM. . MM-HMM. . OKAY. OKAY. AND ANOTHER THING I WAS GONNA TALK ABOUT, I THINK IT'S GONNA GET APPROVED TOMORROW. OKAY. . UM, JAVIER IS NOT HERE, RIGHT? HE IS. OH, HE'S HIDING. DIDN'T SEE, I DIDN'T SEE, SORRY. MY BAD. UM, THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE THAT I WAS HOPING TO BE ABLE TO PUT THAT WE COULD, UM, TALK ABOUT. IT'S, 'CAUSE I KNOW, UM, WHEN WAS IT? WHAT PAGE ARE YOU ON? HUH? WHAT PAGE ARE YOU ON? OH, IT'S NOT ON HERE. SOMETHING ELSE. OH, OKAY. UM, IT, IT WAS, UM, WHEN WE HAD THAT MEETING ABOUT THE PARKS, AND I KNOW YOU, ALL OF US WERE HERE, AND THEN WE HAD THAT, THAT WHOLE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT CAME IN FOR ON DIXIELAND. AND, UM, WE WERE, UM, HOPING TO, UM, WELL I'M CALLING IT LIKE PHASE TWO OF THE DIXIELAND STUFF. AND THEN PHASE TWO WOULD'VE BEEN TO, UM, RE UM, I GUESS REDESIGN, UM, THE GOLF DISCUS COURSE THERE. AND THEN I WAS, WE HAVE A LOT OF THOSE, THAT GROUP THAT WERE WILLING TO DO SOME PRO BONO WORK. AND THEN I, I KNOW ASKED, UM, JER TO LOOK INTO IT AND SEE HOW MUCH MONEY IT WOULD COST US TO, UM, TO ACTUALLY REDESIGN THE, UH, REDESIGN THE COURSE SO THAT WAY IT COULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT AND ATTRACTIVE TO ADD, YOU KNOW, TO ENCOURAGE MORE TOURNAMENTS AND ALL THAT STUFF TO HAREN. AND I KNOW I ASKED HIM FOR THE NUMBERS AND HE SENT THEM TO ME TODAY. AND I THINK IT WAS 22,000, RIGHT? OH, 22,000. OKAY. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WAS HOPING TO PUT ON THE THING IF EVERYBODY AGREED ON THE BUDGET, $22,000. SO THAT WAY WE CAN REDESIGN THE PARK AND THEN HOPEFULLY THAT WILL MAKE IT MORE EFFECTIVE OR MORE CHALLENGING AND WE CAN GET MORE TOURNAMENTS HERE IN HARINGTON. WHAT, WHAT WAS THAT FOR THE 22,000 AGAIN? SO THAT WAS GONNA INCLUDE TO REPLACE ALL THE BASKETS, UH, ADD THE TEE BOXES, UH, TREES, AND, UM, CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT ELSE IT WAS. I GOT IT RIGHT HERE. YOU EMAILED ME THE THING. OKAY. WHILE WE'RE, WHILE RANDY'S LOOKING THAT UP, BIGGER PICTURE IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT SPENDING ALL THIS MONEY ON PARKS AND, AND ANNA'S BEEN DOING A PHENOMENAL JOB DOING ALL THESE GRANTS, BUT MAYOR, TO YOUR POINT, EARLIERS AT A COUPLE OF MEETINGS, BACK MAINTENANCE, RIGHT? IT'S LIKE FANTASTIC THAT WE'RE LIKE APPLYING TO GET ALL THESE FERRARI A K PARKS. BUT IF WE'RE NOT DOING THE OIL CHANGES ON THEM, WE'RE NOT CHANGING OUT THE TIRES. WE'RE NOT CUTTING THE GRASS AND WE'RE NOT CUT. NOT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T, BUT BECAUSE YOU JUST DON'T HAVE THE BANDWIDTH, RIGHT? MM-HMM. . UM, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT DURING THIS BUDGET TIME. UM, BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S JUST, I DON'T SEE A POINT IN PUTTING THE MONEY INTO THE PARKS IF WE'RE NOT GONNA MAINTAIN THEM AND, AND KEEP DOING THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO TO, YOU KNOW, UH, KEEP UP THAT QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE. I AGREE. I HAVE ANOTHER ONE FOR YOU, SINCE WE'RE GOING ALL OVER THE PLACE. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE DOING. COMMISSIONER , PAGE NUMBER EIGHT. WELL, CAN I FINISH REAL QUICK ON MINE? GO AHEAD. OKAY. LIKE THOSE 22,000 WAS GONNA, UM, FOR THE PROPOSED TREES, THE ADDED TEE BOXES, WE HAVE TO RELOCATE THE TEE BOXES, NEW DISC OFF BASKETS, THE WHOLE SIGNS, UH, LAYOUT SIGN. AND JUST TO NOTICE THAT, YOU KNOW, TO DUCK, BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE FLYING THINGS IN THE, IN THE, YOU KNOW, IN THE AREA. AND I, AND I SEE THIS AS, AS LOW, UH, LOW HANGING FRUIT. THIS IS $22,000. WE CAN TRANSFORM THE GOLF DISCUS PARK THERE AT DIXIELAND. AND THIS IS GONNA ATTRACT AND BOOST OUR ECONOMY. SO YEAH. ANYTHING ELSE ON THE PARK? I WAS TRYING TO DO THIS BY TOPIC, RIGHT? WELL, BECAUSE I WAS JUST GOING THROUGH MY WHOLE LITTLE LIST HERE. I MEAN, LIKE WE MENTIONED BEFORE, AND, AND I THINK YOU JUST SAID IT AGAIN, I THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A LOT OF WORK IN ALL OF THE PARKS, RIGHT? AND SO ALL PARKS NEED CERTAIN, CERTAIN THINGS. UM, AND THEY'RE ALL, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT WITH THE PLAN THAT, THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, RIGHT? THE PARKS PLAN. YEAH. BUT THE MASTER PLAN TALKS ABOUT LIKE IMPROVEMENTS RATHER MAINTENANCE. MAINTENANCE, RIGHT? SO, SO I THINK IN THIS BUDGET, WHAT WE SHOULD REALLY BE FOCUSED ON IS THE MAINTENANCE. AND SO REALLY HONING IN ON THOSE POSITIONS THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING [01:40:01] MM-HMM. AND MAKING SURE THAT THOSE POSITIONS ARE SUFFICIENT FOR THE DEMAND. 'CAUSE WE KEEP ASKING YOU TO DO MORE, RIGHT? UM, BUT NOT PROVIDING YOU THE PERSONNEL TO, TO DO THAT. AND SO, UM, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT IT LAST TIME IN TERMS OF HOW IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO TOUCH EVERY PARK WITH AMOUNT OF STAFF THAT, THAT YOU, THAT YOU HAVE. AND SO, UM, IF WE HAVE VERY, YOU KNOW, LIMITED FUNDS, MAYBE WE NEED TO, AS A COMMISSION PRIORITIZE WHAT'S IMPORTANT. AND, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE REOCCURRING EXPENSES, NOT, NOT THESE CAPITAL, UM, YOU KNOW, EQUIPMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE WONDER ARE ARE, ARE NEEDED. BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE USE OF HAVING THE EQUIPMENT IF THERE'S NO ONE TO USE THE EQUIPMENT, RIGHT? TO BE ABLE TO. SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF, WAS THAT TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN WE WERE SHAVING THE, THE BUDGET? 'CAUSE I DON'T WANT US TO JUST KIND OF CUT OR, OR EVERYTHING THAT YOU WORKED HARD TO DO TO KIND OF GIVE US A BALANCED BUDGET. LIKE WHAT IS THAT GONNA LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE THE WAY THAT I SEE IT IS THAT WE NEED TO FULLY STAFF, FULLY STAFF THE, UH, PLANNING DEPARTMENT. MM-HMM. . UM, THAT, THAT IS IN MY, IN MY MIND, A PRIORITY BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. AND, AND SECOND IN TERMS OF STAFF IS PARKS. UM, BECAUSE OF THE QUALITY OF QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THAT ADDITIONAL GROWTH. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY PUBLIC WORKS BECAUSE YOU'RE MAKING SURE THAT YOU ARE KEEPING UP WITH ALL OF THE OTHER COMPONENTS IN TERMS OF THE HOMES AND ALL THE CALLS THAT, THAT YOU GET. SO IT'S REALLY ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE, UM, WE ALREADY TOOK CARE OF POLICE AND FIRE THAT ARE AMAZING AND, AND, AND KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE. UH, 'CAUSE THERE IS NO ROOM FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR GROWTH WITHOUT A SAFE COMMUNITY. AND SO NOW WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE JOBS, THOSE POSITIONS. AND SO BEFORE WE START LOOKING AT PROJECTS, MAYBE WE NEED TO INVEST IN MORE PEOPLE. OH YEAH. JUST THE MAINTENANCE OF WHAT WE HAVE NOW, RIGHT? MM-HMM. BEFORE WE START GROWING THINGS. BUT I DO AGREE THAT $20,000, YOU KNOW, TO, TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES IS, I WAS ABOUT TO JUMP IN. ISN'T ISN'T. NO, NO, IT ISN'T. BUT THEN WHEN WE START ADDING THEM ALL UP, NO, I GET LIKE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR CREDIT CARD BILL, RIGHT? AND YOU'RE SAYING, OH, WELL I JUST WENT TO THE GROCERY STORE AND I JUST, THE S HERE, AND YOU'RE LIKE, OH, SHOOT, YOU KNOW, IT ALL ADDS UP. SO THIS IS A BIG CREDIT CARD BILL. UM, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE BEING, UH, AS RESPONSIBLE AS AS POSSIBLE. BUT I THINK FOR ME IT'S GOING TO BE, UH, STAFF BECAUSE THE CALLS THAT I GET ARE FROM DEVELOPERS. UM, AND, AND JUST PEOPLE THAT ARE BUILDING THEIR HOMES. MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUALS SAYING, HEY, THIS IS, THIS HAS TAKEN A WHILE. AND I WILL SAY THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE HAVE IDENTIFIED AN ISSUE THAT, UM, JAVI'S DEPARTMENT HANDLES IT, THE OTHER, THE OTHER JAVIER, UM, YOU KNOW, IMMEDIATELY. BUT IT'S NOT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT WANTING TO DO IT IN AN EFFICIENT MANNER. IT'S JUST SOMETIMES IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT POSSIBLE. AND PARKS TOO, YOU GET IT ALL THE TIME. PEOPLE CALLING AND, AND NOT BEING ABLE TO, TO, TO, UH, RESPOND AS, AS QUICKLY BECAUSE YOUR GUYS ARE WORKING IN OTHER PLACES AND HAVING TO PULL TO, TO COVER IN ANOTHER, IN ANOTHER AREA. AND, AND I AGREE. PLANNING AND ZONING, WE GOTTA GREASE THE WHEEL SO EVERYTHING CAN COME IN. RIGHT. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS MENTIONED IS THE ROADS. WE NEED THE EQUIPMENT AND WE NEED THE PEOPLE. MM-HMM. . 'CAUSE NOBODY WANTS TO DRIVE ON POTHOLE NASTY ROADS. CORRECT. IT DOESN'T GIVE THE RIGHT IMPRESSION TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE AND WHO MAY COME HERE. MM-HMM. . I AGREE. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, LET'S GO BACK TO PAGE EIGHT BECAUSE I WANT TO COVER PAGE EIGHT AND 13. PAGE EIGHT, UM, CAMERAS FOR WAREHOUSE. OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T HAVE ANY TYPE OF SECURITY THERE, DO WE? AS FAR AS CAMERAS? NO, SIR. YES, WE DO NOT. AND THEN ON PAGE 13, UH, APPEARING LOOKS LIKE, UH, THEY COULD USE A COMMERCIAL ROLLING DOOR FOR THE GARAGE FOR THE WAREHOUSE. SO THAT'S, THAT'S 9,000 PLUS 3000. YOU'RE LOOKING AT $12,000 FOR THE WAREHOUSE THAT KEEPS OUR RECORDS CORRECT. SO NO SIR. THE, THE $9,000 ON PAGE 13 FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THE COMMERCIAL ROLLING GARAGE DOOR, THIS IS OVER BEHIND THE BASEBALL FIELDS. SO THAT ROLLING DOOR, IT HAD ALREADY MESSED UP. SO THEY HAVE TO ROLL IT UP MANUALLY, EITHER UP OR DOWN. OKAY. AND IT'S GONNA GET TO THE POINT THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO THAT E EVEN MANUALLY. SO, [01:45:01] OKAY. SO THAT'S WHAT, SO THE CAMERAS THAT, THAT, THOSE CAMERAS ARE FOR THE PURCHASING SIDE, UH, ALL THE OPEN RECORDS THAT THEY STORE IN THAT, IN THAT WAREHOUSE THERE, THERE'S, THERE'S NO CAMERA SYSTEM INSIDE. WE DO HAVE CAMERAS THROUGH THE OUTSIDE, BUT NOT IN THE INSIDE. AND THAT'S FOR, UH, PAGE EIGHT, WHICH IS THE 3000 THAT IS CORRECT, SIR, BY ANY MIRACLE. IS THAT WAREHOUSE WHERE YOU KEEP, WHERE WE KEEP THE RECORDS, IS IT CLIMATE CONTROL? IT'S NOT. HOW MUCH WOULD IT COST TO GET SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND SECURE THE RECORDS? SO WE HAD LOOKED AT AN AMOUNT, IT WAS GONNA BE EXCUSE TO $19,000. I'M SORRY, WHAT? UH, TO SECURE THE AREA FOR THE UPPER OPEN RECORDS. WE HAD LOOKED INTO IT. AND SO TO PROVIDE A DOOR, UH, AN AC UNIT, AND THE CAMERA WAS GONNA BE CLOSE TO $19,000. 19. YES, SIR. AND THESE ARE PAPER RECORDS? YES, THAT IS CORRECT. AND THEY'RE NOT CLIMATE CONTROLLED. THEY'RE NOT, WE TALKED ABOUT IT LAST YEAR. AND REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT NEED VERSUS WANT. CORRECT. AND SO THIS WAS A WANT RATHER THAN THE NEED TO DO THE DIGITALIZATION. YEP. I REMEMBER. THAT'S WHAT, UNLESS YOU BRING IN MILDEW, YOU'RE NOT WRONG. YOU'RE NOT WRONG. I KNOW THAT YOU WOULD, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, YOU SAID EVERY FIVE YEARS YOU WOULD GET THROUGH, LIKE ONCE THEY'RE FIVE YEARS OLD AND YOU SHRED 'EM ALL RIGHT. WELL, IT DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF RECORD THAT IT IS AND, UH, THE RETENTION, WHEN YOU APPLY THE RETENTION. SO BASICALLY WHAT WE, WHAT'S STAYING BEHIND, YOU NEED THE CHANGE OF ATTITUDE FIRST IS THE LONGER RETENTION RECORDS. AND WE CAN DO A LOT LIKE THE PERMANENCE, UH, THE 45 YEARS, UH, 25 YEARS, YOU KNOW, SO YEAH. BUT WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF BOXES AT THE WAREHOUSE. YEAH. WHAT IS IT YOU RIGHT NOW? YEAH, I'M GOOD. HEY, GABE. UH, HANG ON. OSCAR, WHERE DO WE STAND ON THE NEW ANIMAL SHELTER? THE QUESTION FOR EL METAL, ROBERT, REAL QUICK. DO YOU LABELED SOMETHING AS ECONOMIC INCENTIVES IN THE BUDGET THAT'S ON PAGE, UH, 25, RIGHT? I BELIEVE THOSE ARE THE PAYMENTS LIKE TO, UH, FROM BASS PRO SHOP AS WE MAKE PAYMENTS THROUGH BASS PRO SHOP, LIKE, UM, THAT'S FOR THE, UH, LIKE THE RENTALS FOR THE 83 77? I BELIEVE SO, YES. OKAY. OKAY. BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT SEEMS TO BE ABOUT A DOLLAR MARK. WE PAID 6 0 7. OKAY. WHICH, WHICH PAGE IS THAT ONE? IT'S 25. IT'S 25. I WAS JUST TRYING TO KIND OF, I I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT WAS, THE WAY THAT IT'S LABELED. IT'S A LITTLE ODD. I THINK IT'S THAT, BUT I, I, CAN YOU THE DETAIL OF WHAT EXACTLY THAT IS. OKAY. OKAY. UH, I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER ANIMAL SHELTER, WHERE WERE WE AT ON THE CREATION OF A NEW ONE? THE ANIMAL SHELTER, A NEW ANIMAL. WE, WE TALKED ABOUT IT. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. WELL WE HAVE APPLIED FOR, UM, AN EARMARK, UH, FOR THAT. AND WE'RE STILL WAITING TO HEAR SOMETHING BACK FROM, UH, THE REPRESENTATIVE, BUT, UH, THINGS LOOK PROMISING. UH, WE DO HAVE SOME PRELIMINARY PLANS, UH, TO DO THAT, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST PENDING GETTING, BRENDA, JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE DID RECEIVE EARMARKS LAST YEAR FOR THE FIFTH AND SEVENTH STREET DRAINAGE PROJECT, AND WE'RE JUST NOW GETTING, UH, NOTIFICATION ON HOW TO ACCESS, UH, THE, THE, THE FIGHTING AGENCY IS GONNA GIVE US THOSE MONIES. SO WE STILL HAVEN'T SEEN THAT MONEY YET. DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE REMAINING MONEY IS GONNA HAVE TO COME FROM OUR GENERAL FUND FOR THE, UH, ANIMAL SHELTER? NO, NO, NO. FOR THE, UM, FIFTH AND SEVENTH. FIFTH AND SEVENTH, IS IT GONNA HAVE TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE? SO WE'RE HOPING THAT MAYBE, PERHAPS TATUM, UH, MIGHT GIVE US A GRANT. THAT'S HOW WE GOT IT LAST TIME. NINTH AND 13TH WAS THROUGH TATU, CORRECT? EVERYONE'S LOOKING AT YOU ON IT. OR YOU LOUISE. YEAH. EITHER ONE OF YOU. WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? I'M SORRY. NINTH AND 13TH WAS FUNDED THROUGH TDO, CORRECT? YES. AND SO T AND AND TWDB, IS THAT THE SAME, UH, AVENUE WE'RE GOING FOR FIFTH AND SEVENTH? YES. WELL, BUT WE ALSO, WE HAVE A EARMARK TOO FOR THAT, CORRECT? YEAH. AND THEN SO THE, THE, THE DIFFERENCE FOR THAT WILL BE FROM HOPEFULLY FROM TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD. AND THEN WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE THAT'S GONNA COME FROM THE GENERAL FUND FOR THIS NEW ANIMAL SHELTER? UH, WE DON'T KNOW YET. UH, IT DEPENDS ON THE SIZE, RIGHT? WE'RE TRYING TO MAXIMIZE THE AMOUNT. SO IT'S, IT'S MINIMAL FROM THE CITY SIDE, CLEARLY. YEAH. RIGHT. BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE EXACT, THE EXACT FIGURE. AND, AND THAT, THAT'S GONNA DEPEND ON THE SIZE OF THE STRUCTURE AND THE CONSTRUCTION. UM, OBVIOUSLY WE GO CINDER BLOCK, IT'S GONNA BE A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE. WE'VE HAD SOME COATS FOR, UM, UH, LIKE A METAL TYPE BUILDING, UH, WITH [01:50:01] JUST STEEL REINFORCEMENT. WE CONSIDERABLY CHEAPER. AND WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT WE CAN BUILD THE LARGER SIZE FOR WHAT WE MAY BE GETTING, JUST A MATTER OF WHAT THE PREFERENCE IS FOR THAT TYPE OF STRUCTURE. BUT THE FUNDING WON'T COME IN FOR THAT. IN MY, THE WAY THAT I SEE IT IS 20 25, 20 26. CORRECT. SO, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT NOW. SO IT WOULDN'T BE BUDGETED HERE BECAUSE WE, WHEN WE'RE DOING THIS NEXT YEAR, WE'LL BE MORE PREPARED TO SAY, OKAY, WE'VE ALREADY SECURED THIS FUNDING AND THIS IS HOW MUCH WE ARE GONNA NEED. AND WE WILL BE RECEIVING THE FUNDS, LIKE HE MENTIONED, IT'S ALMOST A YEAR LATER. MM-HMM. BEFORE YOU EVEN GET IT. SO IT WOULD, WE DON'T WANNA BUDGET IT, BUDGET FOR IT HERE BECAUSE ONE, IT'S PREMATURE AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH. AND, AND TWO, UM, IT COULD, I MEAN, IT COULD CHANGE AND THEN THE COST OF THINGS OBVIOUSLY CHANGE TOO. SO, BUT IT'S LOOKING VERY, VERY GOOD. I, I FEEL CONFIDENT. AND, AND, UH, HOPEFULLY WE CAN SECURE THAT AND THEN SHARE THAT WITH THE REST OF THE, THE COMMISSION. UH, BY THE WAY, WE GOT A LETTER, AN EMAIL FROM THE FUNDING AGENCY FOR THE DRAINAGE PROJECT SAYING, DO YOU STILL WANT THIS MONEY ? LIKE ALWAYS, YES, YOU STILL WANT THIS MONEY TO GO, BUT WE'VE BEEN WAITING ON THEM, SO WHY ARE THEY ASKING US? SO I DUNNO, MAYBE THEY FIGURED IT WOULD GO AWAY, LIKE BOILER PLATE EMAILS. CAN I ASK A CHIEF BALDIS A QUICK QUESTION? MM-HMM. , SIR. AND THE FIRE TRUCK, IF YOU ORDERED ONE TODAY, WHAT WOULD BE THE DRAG TIME ON GETTING IT IN? ARE THEY ON A LOT WAITING FOR YOU TO COME AND GET IT? OR? WE HAVE ONE RIGHT NOW THAT'S TAKEN TWO AND A HALF YEARS. OH MY LORD. YEAH. AND WE'RE EXPECTING THAT ONE IN NOVEMBER. THAT'S A THOUSAND GALLON. THAT'S THE ONE WITH THE THOUSAND GALLONS. YEAH. SO FROM APPROVAL TO DELIVERY WOULD BE TWO AND A HALF YEARS. TWO AND A HALF YEARS. YEAH. AND THE REPLACEMENT PLAN THAT I MADE WHEN I GOT HERE, UH, WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE, WE HAD 20 PLUS YEAR UNITS AS FRONTLINE UNITS. AND, UH, THE MAYOR AND THE COMMISSION HAS DONE A GREAT JOB. CITY MANAGERS DONE A GREAT JOB IN GETTING US WHAT WE NEED. BUT YEAH, THE, THE, THE LEAD TIME, UH, IF WE DON'T GET IT, IF WE DON'T ORDER IT NOW, UH, WE'RE GONNA START FALLING BEHIND AGAIN. IN, IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, WE'VE RECEIVED FIVE NEW ONES, INCLUDING THE BRUSH TRUCK. YEAH. INCLUDING THE BRUSH TRUCK. YEAH. YEAH. SO, AND CHIEF KESTER, IS THAT SAME DEAL ON THE BEARCAT PRETTY MUCH THE STORY OR THAT I'M REALLY NOT SURE ON. I KNOW IT TAKES A LITTLE WHILE BECAUSE THEY GOT OUTFITTED FOR US, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE QUITE THAT LONG. PROBABLY WITHIN A YEAR. THANK YOU, SIR. YEAH. DO WE PAY ON DELIVERY OR DO WE PAY UPON ORDERING FOR BOTH OF THOSE TRUCKS? THE FIRE TRUCKS REQUIRE ADVANCED PAYMENT FULL TO, TO GET A, UH, DEPOSIT. THE FULL DISCOUNT. FULL DISCOUNT. WE GET A DISCOUNT AND WE PAY IT, UH, IN A, IN UPFRONT. AND IT'S USUALLY SIX FIGURES, RIGHT? THE DISCOUNT? YEAH, IT'S BIG. OH, WOW. OKAY. THAT'S REAL MONEY. YEAH. YEAH. AND THERE'S NO, NO, UH, AHEAD OF THE LINE. ISN'T THAT WHAT SOMEBODY SAID? WHEN YOU PAY UP AT, WHEN YOU PAY UP FRONT? A MATTER OF FACT, I MADE A PHONE CALL TODAY AND I ASKED HIM IF HE COULD, UH, 'CAUSE IT'S NOVEMBER WHEN THE DUE DATE TO, TO, FOR US TO RECEIVE IT, UH, THAT IF HE CAN PULL SOME STRINGS AND MAYBE GET IT DONE BY OCTOBER SO HE CAN GO SHOW IT OFF AT TML. SO HE'S GONNA WORK ON THAT, THANK, EXCUSE ME. UM, OVER HERE. YES, SIR. ON THAT, ON THE FIRE TRUCK THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, WE'LL GET A BIG DISCOUNT IF WE PAY FOR IT IN ADVANCE. CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING HERE, RIGHT? HOW MANY OF THOSE HAVE GONE THROUGH BBOS SO WE CAN GET A REBATE FROM, UH, THE BUYBOARD? THEY ALL GO THROUGH BUYBOARD. ROBERT, NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE HOW MUCH HAVE WE GOTTEN IN, IN FUNDS FROM THE BUYBOARD AS FAR AS REBATES? REBATES, WE, WE DON'T GET REBATES FROM THE BUYBOARD. WE GET REBATES FROM THE BUYBOARD FROM EVERYTHING WE PURCHASE, BUT, UH, BUT IT'S NOT A CASH REBATE FROM THE, UH, FROM THE MANUFACTURER FOR WHOEVER THEY BUY IT FROM. LIKE SEND WHAT, WHAT WE GET COMMISSIONS OF REDUCED COST, UH, ON THE UNIT. AND THAT'S REALLY THE REBATE YOU SAVE ON. IT'S NOT A CASH, SO THERE'S NO, IT'S NOT A CASH CHECK TO THE CITY. NO. SO THEY JUST, THEY REDUCED THE PRICE. YEAH, THEY JUST REDUCED THE PRICE. UM, CHIEF, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT YOU NEEDED A HUNDRED THOUSAND WHEN YOU CALLED ME THIS MORNING. WHAT WAS THAT FOR? THIS MORNING? YEAH. OH, WELL, I WAS, UH, QUESTIONING THE, THE, THE SECOND CUT THAT YOU MADE, BUT, WHICH WAS FOR WHAT? I MADE SEVERAL THINGS. I MADE OVER A HUNDRED CUTS IN THE BUDGET, SO I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT YEAH, I KNOW THERE WAS QUITE A FEW . OKAY, WELL THEN YOU AND I'LL SIT ON LATER AND WE'LL GO OVER THAT. SURE. YEAH. HUH. AND THEN ONE LAST THING I WOULD LIKE THIS COMMISSION TO CONSIDER, AGAIN, WE GOTTA PRIORITIZE [01:55:01] JUST LIKE THE MAYOR AND EVERYONE'S SAYING, BUT CAMERAS DOWNTOWN BECAUSE THIS PAST YEAR WE HAD, UH, A BUNCH OF BURGLARIES DOWN THERE, UH, WINDOWS BROKE, THINGS LIKE THAT. MM-HMM. . I KNOW AT ONE POINT, MAYBE WHAT, A MONTH AGO WHEN WE HAD THE MEETING WITH THE DO ON BUSINESS OWNERS, OR MAYBE TWO MONTHS AGO, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DID A PHENOMENAL PRESENTATION. UH, CHIEF, UH, REALLY COMMEND THOSE GUYS FOR, UH, PRESENTING. BUT THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS WE DON'T HAVE CAMERAS TO TRACK WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING, WHO'S DOING THE BREAK-INS AND ALL THAT. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE ASKED THE FREE NICHOLS TO LOOK AT SECURITY. MM-HMM. AND HOW TO IMPROVE THAT DOWNTOWN, INCLUDING CAMERAS AND ANY OTHER, OKAY. SO THAT WOULD JUST BE PLANNED OUT. YEAH. OKAY. PERFECT. YEAH, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT 12 MONTHS OUT BEFORE WE GET THE REPORT BACK, BUT, UM, WE CAN INSTALL CAMERAS NOW IN LIEU OF GETTING A REPORT, JUST GET WHAT PD, WHERE THE HIGH CRIME AREAS ARE AND INSTALL 'EM THERE. YEAH. I THINK SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE WE JUST DO ALL THE, THESE STUDIES, UM, TO TELL US WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW. UH, NOT ALWAYS, BUT IN THIS CASE, I THINK THAT WE HAVE SEEN OUR DOWNTOWN AREA IS NOT THAT LARGE. UH, AND SO WITH, WITH THE CHIEF, THEY CAN IDENTIFY WHERE THERE WILL BE MOST USEFUL AND HAVE THE MOST, UM, VIEW AND, AND SEE TO INVEST AND, AND SEE HOW MUCH THAT COST US BECAUSE THAT, BECAUSE IF NOT, BY THE TIME WE GET THAT RECOMMENDATION, THERE MAY, YOU KNOW, THINGS MAY HAVE CHANGED. MM-HMM. . AND, AND, AND IT MAY BE OUTDATED, BUT I THINK IT WOULD GIVE THE, THE VEN NOT THE VENDORS, THE THE CONSULTANT, THE BUSINESS OWNERS, THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND PEACE OF MIND KNOWING THAT WE ARE HERE TO SUPPORT THEM AND, AND PUTTING IN THIS, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL EYES AND PEOPLE TEND TO, TO BEHAVE DIFFERENTLY RIGHT. WHEN THEY'RE ON CAMERA . SO I THINK THAT MIGHT, THAT SHOULD BE, IT'S IF WE CAN HAVE THAT IN THE BUDGET. I KNOW YOU GUYS HAD ALREADY SAID YOU WERE GOING OUT FOR QUOTES FOR THAT. UH, ACTUALLY, UH, SAT ALREADY GAVE ME SOME QUOTES FOR, UM, CAMERAS. SO WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT, RIGHT? I THINK. YEAH. AND SO THEY'RE, UM, THEY'VE GOT FOUR DIFFERENT HEADS LOOKING IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS, UH, THAT WE HAVE HUNDRED 86,000 FOR, UH, DAMN, FOR JUST LIKE 75 DIFFERENT VIEWS. IS IT A WORTHWHILE VIEW? BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE, THIS CAMERAS HAVE A, A QUAD CAMERA IN IT THAT WE CAN ZOOM IN TILT AND, UH, IT INCLUDES A, A FILE SERVER TO STORE THE VIDEO ALSO, I THINK I, WE TALKED ABOUT GETTING IT FOR AT LEAST THREE MONTHS STORED. IT WAS, IT WAS A BIG NUMBER. YES. MM-HMM. IT'S 186,000. AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT PE WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO, RIGHT? MM-HMM. . YEAH. IT, IT WOULD, WELL WE WANTED THEM TO BE SENT TO PD SECOND MONEY. RIGHT. BECAUSE THEY SAID IT WAS EC I WAS LIKE, WELL, DOESN'T NEED TO BE MONITOR. ACTUALLY, THE, THE VIDEO SURVEY WILL BE LOCATED AT THE DID BUILDING DOWNTOWN. THAT WOULD, THE OLD VIDEO WILL BE STORED, BUT THE ACTUAL LIVE FEED WOULD BE AT PD. YEAH. YEAH. WE, YEAH. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, IT'S A BUYBOARD PRICING ALSO. THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T MOVE ON IT JUST YET. HUNDRED SIX. YEAH. IT'S A BIG NUMBER. OKAY. I HAD A QUESTION. I'M JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE I SAW THE MAGIC WORD WILSON SPORTS COMPLEX. UM, SO, UM, HAVE, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT DOES THAT MEAN THAT, WELL, I KNOW WHAT IT MEANS, BUT WHAT WOULD THAT ENTAIL? THE RECONSTRUCT 1.0 MILE TRAIL AT WILSON SPORTS COMPLEX ON PAGE 12. PAGE 12 AT, AT OUR, AT OUR NEXT BUDGET MEETING, COMMISSIONER, WHAT I'M HAD ASKED ROBERT TO WORK ON IS, UM, A BUDGET THAT WILL SHOW US WHAT THE FOUR B IS CAPABLE OF FUNDING. MM-HMM. FOR PARK PROJECT. SO AT OUR NEXT WORKSHOP WILL HAVE THAT NUMBER FOR YOU. YEAH. I WANT THEIR MONEY. SO WHAT THAT WAS COMMISSIONER IS, IS TO, UH, AS YOU RECALL, WE, WE DID DO, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE FOUR OR 500, UH, FEET OF THE TRAIL. WE RECONSTRUCTED IT. AND SO WE WANTED TO DO IS CONTINUE THAT AND FINISH, FINISH THAT TRAIL. UM, I KNOW YOU HAD MENTIONED IT HAD COME UP ONE OF THE MEETINGS, RIGHT? THAT THE GRASS IS GROWING IN. YEAH. YEAH. AND YOU KNOW, THE TRAIL IS VERY NARROW. AND SO, UH, WE WANNA GO BACK IN THERE AND CON RECONSTRUCT THAT TRAIL WITH USING DECOMPOSED CRUSH GRANITE. UM, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK. SO THAT INCLUDES THAT. YES, SIR. YEAH. SO I KNOW THAT, UH, SPEAKING WITH MR. GARCIA IS THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, HE WAS THINKING THAT MAYBE WE OUGHT TO GO BACK IN BECAUSE THE, THE TRAILS ALREADY HAVE A BASE, RIGHT. AND SO WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO COME BACK AND IMPROVE IT AND THEN, UH, LAY THE ASPHALT OVER IT. AND SO WHETHER WE DO A CURB ON THE SIDE OR WE JUST LAY THE ASPHALT, LIKE WE DO SOME OF OUR TRAILS, LIKE ON THE ROYAL, UM, THERE'S NO CURBING. IT'S JUST THE, THE ASPHALT TRAIL. OKAY. SO, YOU KNOW, I [02:00:01] HAD A QUESTION, UM, REAL QUICK. I HAD A QUESTION THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT, 'CAUSE I KNOW WE DID THE, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, THE, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, THE TRAILS ARE ASPHALT. UM, 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN DOING THE TRAILS BASICALLY EVERY DAY. UM, AND I NOTICED THAT THERE'S, YOU CAN TELL YOUR FIGURE'S LOOKING GREAT. . THEY GIMME BLUSH. . UM, I WAS GONNA ASK, I NOTICED THERE'S POTHOLES ON THE THING AND I'M LIKE, UH, I, I HATE POTHOLES. CAN WE FIX POTHOLES ON, ON THE TRAILS TOO? YES. OKAY. I WASN'T SURE 'CAUSE I WAS ON BUST STOP MY, MY APP THIS MORNING AND TAKE A PICTURE, BUT THEN I WAS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD ACTUALLY WORK ON THE TRAIL, BUT WE CAN DO IT ON THE TRAIL. YES. OKAY, COOL. LIKE COMMISSIONER RIGHT THERE. THAT JAVI'S PROPOSING THAT IT WOULD COST US, UH, 210,000 TO REDO THAT TRAIL IF WE WERE TO DO IT ASPHALT, 10 FEET WIDE AND, AND NOT, AND, AND ADD SOME BASE IF IT NEEDED IT, WE COULD DO IT WAY UNDER A HUNDRED THOUSAND BUCKS. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. UM, IN TO SECURITY CAMERAS, CIO PARK, KENTON PARK, AND VICTOR. AND VICTOR PARK, IT SAYS 54,000. WHY ARE THE CAMERAS THERE? UM, MUCH CHEAPER THAN IF YOU GO PUT THEM DOWNTOWN. LIKE IS THERE, ARE THEY DIFFERENT QUALITY OR WHAT'S THE YEAH. HAVE YOU SEEN THE ONES DOWNTOWN BROWNSVILLE? MM-HMM. YEAH, THE ONES IN DOWNTOWN BROWNSVILLE OR BUILT FOR, FOR LIKE STREETS AND, AND SO THEY'RE JUST DIFFERENT. BETTER. OKAY. AND, BUT CAN, CAN YOU GET UP TO THE MIC PLEASE? SO WE CAN HEAR YOU? YOU, YEAH, YOU, SO YOU YEAH, I'M JUST SAYING, I MEAN, IT'S A BIG, A BIG DIFFERENCE. THE QUOTE FOR THE DOWNTOWN HERE IS THE SAME VENDOR THAT, UH, DID THE BROWNSVILLE DOWNTOWN. OKAY. I SAID THE, THE CAMERAS THAT WE'RE PUTTING UP OR HAVE SUBMITTED FOR WILSON, THOSE, WHAT'S THE QUALITY COMPARED TO THE ONES YOU WANNA PUT DOWNTOWN? UM, THE ONES FROM THE PARKS TO THE, THE, THE PARKS ARE MORE, UM, HAD ZOOM IN, BUT THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T HAVE THE, THE QUALITY AND THE, IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE, THE HIGH STORAGE OF THE VIDEO. THESE CAMERAS HAVE THEIR OWN, UH, CLOUD STORES FOR 30 DAYS OR 60 DAYS. THERE'S A, A LESS LESSER QUALITY, I GUESS, OF THE CAMERA. AND I TELL YOU, WE DESPERATELY NEED HIM. YOU KNOW, THE DAY OF FREEDOM FEST, UM, I SHARED WITH UH, UM, WITH JOSH, WAS THAT THE DAY WE WERE THERE? IT GOT VANDALIZED TWICE WHILE EVERYBODY WAS THERE AT FREEDOM FEST. YOU KNOW, WE RESPONDED, WE CLEANED IT UP, AND THEN IT GOT VANDALIZED AGAIN. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHEN PEOPLE WERE THERE. IMAGINE WHEN THEY'RE NOT THERE. RIGHT. SO WAS THAT THE SPLASH PARTY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? NO, THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S BY THE PLAYGROUND. NO, BUT WHAT DID YOU SAY GOT VANDALIZED? THE RESTROOM. OH. SEE, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK INTO. 'CAUSE I'M IN THE, WELL WE'RE, THE MAYOR AND I ARE IN THE PROCESS OF, OF TALKING TO THE H-C-I-S-D TO HOPEFULLY GET THE PROJECT GOING WHERE THE STUDENTS WILL BE, UM, PAINTING MURALS ON THE PARK, RESTROOMS. AND THAT'S SOMETHING LIKE, IT WOULD BE A SHAME THAT WE HAVE THESE BEAUTIFUL MURALS AT THE KIDS PAINT AND THEY'RE REAL PROUD OF, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN SOME KIDS, SOME OTHER PEOPLE COME OVER AND JUST, YOU KNOW, GRAFFITI ALL OVER THEM. AND I, THE CAMERAS WOULD BE A GOOD THING. SO IF THEY DO DO THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN, THEY CAN HAVE SOME REPERCUSSIONS FOR WHAT THEY'RE DOING THAT AND LIGHTING. RIGHT. 'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO IT WHEN IT'S SUPER BRIGHT LIGHTING. LIKE A FLOOD OF FLOOD LIGHTS THAT PEOPLE PUT IT IN THEIR ALLEYS. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. MM-HMM. , WHATEVER YOU THINK OF IT. YOU'VE BEEN DOING THIS LONGER THAN A WHILE. IT FOR A WHILE. SO, WELL, JUST LIKE OUR MOBILE LIBRARY AT THE, UM, AT, UH, AT MONTE HILL PARK HAS SHUT DOWN BECAUSE OF VANDALISM. MM-HMM. . AND SO WE'VE HAD TO MAKE PROVISIONS TO HAVE IT ENCLOSED AND DONNA'S AND DONNA'S GOTTEN SOME FUNDING TO ACTUALLY DO THAT. I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE DO THAT. I MEAN, WE HAVE, YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T EITHER. IT'S SO, I, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE, WE SHOULD REALLY SHOULD LOOK INTO THE SECURITY CAMERAS AT THE PARKS BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE DESPERATELY NEEDED. I AGREE. AS, AS MIKE LIKES TO SAY, WE JUST NEED $300 MILLION. RIGHT. , THAT'S ALL. IT'S EASY. MIKE GABE'S GONNA COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING AND TELL US WE HAVE LIKE ABOUT 15 MILLION THAT WE CAN SPEND. OH, NO, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN . BUT, UM, WE'LL HAVE SOME OPTIONS FOR YOU, UH, ESPECIALLY WITH THE FOUR B. SO THAT'S, UM, ON THIS, UH, BLUE, UH, TICKETING SYSTEM, WHICH IS OFF OF PAGE 33. IF WE PURCHASE THAT, WOULD THAT, UM, REDUCE HOW MUCH WE PAY LINEBERG FOR PICKING UP THE TAB AT THE MUNICIPAL COURT? MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IS THAT IT INCREASES THE COLLECTION , BUT DOES IT REDUCE HOW MUCH WE PAY THEM? THEY, THEY, IT'S [02:05:01] HARD TO TELL BECAUSE I MEAN, THEY, THEY, THEY, UH, THEY, IT IT'S DELINQUENT. IT'S LIKE, LIKE DELINQUENT COLLECTION. SO UNLESS YOU, THIS IS JUST A TICKETING SYSTEM. IT, IT IS NOT LIKE A COLLECTION. SO IT'S HARD TO TELL WHEN YOU CAN GET PEOPLE TO PAY. WHEN THEY COMMISSIONER PAID IN YEARS, THEY'RE GONNA BE HERE ON THE FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST TO PRESENT A REPORT ON FEES AND FINES. SO WE CAN ASK THEM AUGUST 1ST, UH, THE FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST, I THINK IT'S AUGUST 7TH CHIEF, UH, IS SCOFF LAW STILL A THING? YES. WE, WE CAN STILL DO THAT. YES. AND SO THIS WOULD, THIS WOULD PLAY INTO THAT SO THAT PEOPLE SCOFF LAW IS WHERE YOU GET A TICKET AND YOU DON'T PAY YOUR TICKET. AND THEN WHEN YOU GO TO READ, LIKE, UH, REGISTER YOUR TARGET, THE NEW TICKET, UH, THE NEW STICKER, OR GET A NEW LICENSE PLATE, THEY WON'T LET YOU DO IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE, YOU HAVE OUTSTANDING TICKETS. THAT'S NOT JUST A THING. NO. THAT IT'S CALLED SCOFF LAW AND THINGS LIKE THIS WILL TO GO TO, UH, FRANK'S POINT, WELL PUSH PEOPLE TO GO AND PAY IT BECAUSE NOW IT'S ALL AUTOMATED RATHER THAN WAITING ON PEOPLE TO SUBMIT THEIR WRITTEN TICKETS AND ALL THIS. BUT FOR SOME REASON I THOUGHT THERE WAS LIKE A HICCUP WITH IT. BUT, AND WE DO DO THAT RIGHT NOW. IT, IT'S, IT'S IN PLAY, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW EFFECTIVE IT IS IF WE'RE USING LIKE AN ANTIQUATED SYSTEM OF HAND HANDWRITTEN TICKETS. I KNOW IT BECAME A LOT MORE EFFECTIVE AT THE COUNTY WHEN EVERYTHING WENT DIGITAL. RIGHT. BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT'S STILL RIGHT. AND THIS DOES INCLUDE A COLLECTION SYSTEM. SO BASICALLY IF YOU RECEIVE A CITATION, YOU GET A QR CODE GO AND SCAN, IT TAKES YOU INTO THE MUNICIPAL COURT SIDE. YOU EITHER PAY THE FINE OR YOU CAN, UH, PLEAD NOT GUILTY, NO CONTEST OR ACTUALLY NO, NOT GUILTY AND SET UP A COURT DATE. RIGHT. SO YOU END UP IN COURT, BUT LET'S SAY YOU JUST DON'T RESPOND TO IT. IT'LL START SENDING YOU EMAILS OR TEXTS TO YOUR PHONE SAYING, HEY, UH, DON'T FORGET ABOUT THE CITATION YOU GOT AND YOU STILL OWE. AND WHEN THE TIME'S UP, IT MAY ACTUALLY SEND YOU A NOTIFICATION SAYING, OKAY, NOW THERE'S A WARRANT FOR YOUR ARREST. SO THAT'S THE WAY THE SYSTEM SET EVERGREEN DAY, EXISTING FACE. YEAH. AND THEY DID SAY THAT THEY COULD TAKE OUR CURRENT EXISTING WARRANTS AND PUT IT INTO THE SYSTEM AND IF WE'VE GOT A PHONE NUMBER OR EMAIL ADDRESS FOR THAT VIOLATOR, THEY'LL START SENDING 'EM THESE TEXTS AND MESSAGES. SO YOU SAID THE COUNTY DOES THIS, THE COUNTY HAS JUST A TECHNOLOGY, A VARIATION OF THIS TECHNOLOGY. I WANNA SAY THEY JUST WENT TO CELL PHONES, BUT YOU'D HAVE TO ASK THE SHERIFF. AND BROWNSVILLE HAS THE MUNICIPAL COURT SIDE, SO THEY'RE DOING THAT SIDE, BUT I GUESS THEIR DEPARTMENT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOESN'T USE IT, BUT OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN THE VALLEY PLUS SAN ANTONIO USES THIS ONE. MM-HMM. SEEMS LIKE, UH, THE, THE, THE RIGHT THING TO, THE RIGHT THING TO DO BECAUSE CONVENIENCE IS IMPORTANT AND I THINK PEOPLE ARE MORE INCLINED TO PAY IF IT'S EASIER THAN TO HAVE TO GO DOWN THERE AND DO, DO IT THE OLD FASHIONED WAY. I'M SAYING GIVE MORE TICKETS. WE'RE JUST SAYING COLLECT ON THE TICKETS WE ALREADY HAVE. AND ALL I'M SAYING IS IF THERE NEEDS TO BE TICKETS THAT NEED TO BE WRITTEN, THEN THEY SHOULD BE. SO EVERYBODY SHOULD BE DRIVING THE SPEED LIMIT THROUGHOUT THE CITY BECAUSE, UM, YEAH, GIVEN I I JUST EVERY WEEKEND IT NOT HARLINGEN, JUST THE ENTIRE RIO GRANDE VALLEY, THERE'S BEEN ISSUES IN TERMS OF SPEEDING AND FATALITIES AND RECKLESS DRIVING AND ALL THAT STUFF. SO ON, ON A SIDE NOTE, THIS ALSO INCORPORATES, UH, ANIMAL CONTROL AND CODE ENFORCEMENT. OKAY. NICE. PERFECT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU CHIEF. AND THIS IS ONE THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THE COMMISSION FUND. UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO. OKAY. SO IT, SO THEN, UM, OUR NEXT MEETING, IT'S GONNA BE ON TUESDAY THE 30TH? IS THAT YEAH, I DON'T GET BACK TILL NINE 40. OKAY. YEAH, SO TUESDAY FOR SURE, JULY 30TH, WE CAN HAVE A MEETING AT, I'M SORRY. YES. I SAID JUNE, JULY. T JULY 30TH. NO, JUST JOKING. SO, OKAY. SO, AND, AND THAT MEETING WE WILL HAVE SOME TYPE WE'LL HAVE YOU ADD FEEDBACK BANEZ YES. HE'LL BE BACK WITH THEM. OKAY. SO MAYBE YOU CAN, YOU CAN GET WITH HIM IN TERMS OF WHAT THOSE STAFF, UH, WHAT HE TRULY NEEDS IN, IN TERMS OF UH, STAFFING AND GETTING FULLY STAFFED, NOT OVER STAFFED, BUT JUST FULLY STAFFED TO BE ABLE TO OFFICER. YEAH. I THINK HE'S ASKING FOR TWO POSITIONS IN THIS REQUEST. YEAH. MM-HMM. . AND I WONDER IF HE'S ASKING FOR THOSE TWO BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE ONLY ONES HE THINKS HE CAN, HE CAN GET, OR IF IT IS GOING TO. 'CAUSE WHAT I WANT IS I WANT US TO SAY, OKAY, WE'RE DOING THIS AND THEN WE WANNA CHECK OFF THAT THERE ARE ANY ISSUES. MM-HMM. LIKE, I WON'T NOW THERE [02:10:01] WON'T BE ANY. UH, YEAH, WELL IT'S JUSTIFICATIONS, RIGHT? AND HE'S ALREADY GOTTEN UM, UH, AN ASSISTANT CHIEF BILLING OFFICIAL. MM-HMM. , UH, ANOTHER PERMIT CLERK. AND SO THESE, UH, WOULD BE THE OTHER POSITIONS THAT HE WOULD STILL NEED TO MM-HMM. , I THINK SOME RESTRUCTURING IS NEEDED IN THERE, IN THE PHONES. UM, AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THERE CAN BE SOMEONE THAT, YOU KNOW, SEPARATING THOSE DUTIES. YEAH. WE CAN DO THAT. MM-HMM, . OKAY. ALRIGHT. QUESTION TO AJOUR. CAN I, CAN I JUST, UH, CAN I GO GO BACK AND ANSWER ONE OF YOUR, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT COMMISSIONER PETTI SAID, I GUESS. UM, SO ON THE, ON THE SANITATION, WHEN YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT THE FUND BALANCE, WHAT PAGE? SO AT THE END OF 2020, UH, 2023, OUR LAST AUDIT WE HAD, UH, 8,000,393 IN NET INVESTMENT IN CAPITAL ASSETS. SO THAT'S, UH, FUND BALANCE OR NET ASSETS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN INVESTED. SO THAT'S TIED UP IN OUR CAPITAL ASSETS. SO OUR UNRESTRICTED, UH, NET ASSETS WAS 6.6 MILLION. OKAY. SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE AVAILABLE, UH, UH, NET ASSETS. SO SIX, THAT'S A CASH NUMBER. AND SO OUR ACTUAL CASH THAT WE HAD WAS 7,000,227. WE HAVE SEVEN MIL TO WORK WITH. BUT THIS IS AT, AT THE END OF, UH, 23. YEAH. 2023. SEPTEMBER, 2023, WHICH IS OUR LAST AUDIT. SO WHAT ABOUT NOW? UH, RIGHT NOW WE HAVEN'T DONE THE CALCULATION 'CAUSE WE USUALLY DO IT AT, AT YEAR END. OKAY. BUT THE CAPITAL ASSETS DON'T CHANGE THAT MUCH OTHER THAN WHATEVER ASSETS THEY ADD AND DEPRECIATION THAT THEY HAVE. BUT I CAN, I CAN GET AN ESTIMATE BY, BY THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY. AND THEN YOU'LL LET US KNOW IN YOUR OPINION, UM, WHAT NEEDS TO STAY IN RESERVES FOR THE YES. THE FUND, THE FOR THE CENTER. YES. SO JUST TO BE LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, JUST TO PLAY AROUND WITH, SO SAY WE DO HAVE 7 MILLION IN THERE AND THEN SAY GABE, YOU KNOW, SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO KEEP AT LEAST 2 MILLION IN THERE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. , YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE COULD PLAY WITH THE REST. RIGHT. WELL IT GETS, YOU GET YOU ALL THE EQUIPMENT FOR THE ROAD CREW. IT COULD POTENTIALLY GET US THE STREETS. WE, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T THINK IT, NO, HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE, THE ENTERPRISE FUND. THAT WOULD JUST BE SANITATION. YEAH. WE CAN'T JUST SANITATION OUTTA SANITATION. I APOLOGIZE. OKAY. RIGHT. NO, BUT I THINK IT WOULD COVER ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT HE'S ASKING FOR. AND THEN THERE MAY BE SOME ROOM LEFT OVER, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YEAH, BUT IT CAN'T BE CARRIED OVER TO UM, UNFORTUNATELY TOO, SO, SO, OKAY. THIS IS, SO FOR THE NEXT MEETING WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GONNA BE CONCENTRATING ON THE, ON THE, ON THE STREET CREW ALSO PARKS, AND THEN FOR THE, UM, FOR THE PARKS OR, I MEAN, NOT THE, THE PUBLIC WORKS. WE'RE ALSO GONNA BE PUTTING IN POSSIBLY THOSE MECHANICS, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING ALL THE EQUIPMENT, WE'RE GONNA NEED THE MECHANICS TOO. RIGHT. SO WHAT WE'VE ASKED AND THEN PLANNING ALSO GABE TO DO AND YES, YES. THOSE GUYS IS TO LOOK AT, UM, STAFF THAT'S NEEDED IN PARKS, PUBLIC WORKS AND PLANNING AND THE TICKET RIDERS. YEP. YEAH, SO I HAVE DOWNTOWN CAMERAS, PARK MAINTENANCE BUILDING INSPECTORS, AND THEN THE ROAD CREW. AND THEN I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO READ THROUGH, UM, A LITTLE MORE CLOSELY AND SEE IF, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED THAT WE HAVEN'T GONE OVER, THEN WE CAN DO IT AT THAT, AT THAT TIME TOO. BEFORE WE, UM, ADJOURN SAN JUAN, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, IF YOU DON'T MIND. YOU LOOK SO PRETTY TODAY. HI. THANK YOU. I I, I NOTICED YOU'RE, YOU'RE ASKING FOR AN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT. UM, COULD THAT BE DONE THROUGH, UH, AN INTERNSHIP? MM, YES, OF COURSE. UM, I CAN TRY. UM, ACTUALLY I CONTACTED TSTC AND THEY TOLD ME THAT THEY WERE GONNA GET SOMEONE, BUT UM, THE PERSON THAT WAS AVAILABLE, SHE WANTED TO DO IT, UH, REMOTE AND UM, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT LIKE THAT. HAVE YOU TRIED U-T-G-R-V? NO, I HAVEN'T TRIED THAT ONE. I CAN TRY. UM, I MEAN, UM, I'M INTERESTED IN GETTING SOME HELP AND UH, I WAS JUST LISTENING TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT, FOR EXAMPLE, MUNICIPAL COURT. UM, ON THE AUDIT THAT I'M DOING, UM, WE DO HAVE 27,000, UH, UH, CASES THAT ARE PENDING. SO THAT'S COLLECTION, THAT'S COLLECTION MONEY THAT IS PENDING IN THERE. AND ALSO, UH, WE DO HAVE THE OPTION TO PAY ONLINE ALREADY. SO JUST SO YOU'LL KNOW, I MEAN THE, THE OPTION IT'S THERE. AND UH, WHEN I WAS TALKING TO LUPITA TO THE ADMINISTRATOR, SHE WAS TELLING ME THAT, UM, THAT MOST OF THE CASES, THE RECENT CASES ARE GETTING PAID. THE ONLY, UM, THE ONES THAT WE HAVE AN ISSUE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GETTING THE LIKE, UH, MONTHS, YOU KNOW, DELINQUENT. YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GETTING LAMBER. BUT, UH, EVEN [02:15:01] WITH LAMBER, SOME OF THEM, THEY'RE STILL, YOU KNOW, PAST YOU. SO ACCORDING TO HER, UH, SHE'S GETTING A GOOD FEEDBACK BASED ON WHAT WE ARE RECEIVING WITHOUT THE DELINQUENCY AGENCY. THAT WAS, THAT'S SOMETHING I, I GUESS JUST FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT. AND UM, IF YOU DON'T MIND, UM, YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THE, UM, REBATES ON, ON BY BOARD. CORRECT? WE DO RECEIVE CHECKS, ACTUAL CHECKS FROM BY BOARD. AND THE LAST ONE THAT WE GOT, I THINK IT'S LIKE 36,000 I WANNA SAY. AND UM, AND IT'S A PERCENTAGE DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF CONTRACT. AND UH, MOST OF THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE PURCHASED, IT'S FROM HGAC. IT'S NOT BY BOARD. IT'S A SIMILAR, UH, COOPERATIVE BECAUSE IT'S AN INTER LOCAL COOPERATIVE. IT'S A CO, UH, COOPERATIVE. BUT THEY DO THE SAME THING. YES. UH, IT'S DIFFERENT. IT IS SIMILAR BECAUSE IT'S THE PART OF THE CONTRACT THAT IS APPROVED BY THE CITY OF ANY TYPE OF MUNICIPALITY. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THE BUYBOARD OFFERS AN ACTUAL CASH REBATE. YEAH. BUYBOARD IS ACTUALLY A BRAND. HJC IS JUST ANOTHER DIFFERENT YEAH. YES. BUT WHAT I'M COMING IN, IT'S LIKE ABOUT THE REBATE. SO WE DO GET A, AN ACTUAL CHECK AND UH, AND I CAN GET YOU THE INFORMATION FOR, YOU KNOW, AND I CAN EMAIL IT TO YOU GUYS IF YOU'RE PLEASED THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN A CHECK FROM. YES. WE DO GET ACTUAL CHECKS FOR BUYING THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE, UH, YEAH, IT'S A DISCOUNT. IT'S A DISCOUNT I THINK WHAT HE WAS REFERRING TO AS THE ACTUAL DISCOUNT OF THE FIRE TRUCK. OH, OKAY. OKAY. YEAH. 'CAUSE FIRE TRUCKS, WE DON'T GET ANY DISCOUNTS FOR THOSE CASH. AND I THINK YOU SAID IT WAS WE A DISCOUNT TOTAL, BUT ON THE PURCHASE PRICE? YEAH, YEAH, THAT, THAT I KNOW. AND PROVIDE A COOPERATIVE TO GET OF COURSE INCLUDED IN THROUGH THE COOPERATIVE. YOU, YOU SAID 27,000 OR, OR I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT, BUT I CAN GET YOU THE INFORMATION FOR SURE. I CAN GET YOU THE COPIES OF THOSE CHECKS. I WAS LOOKING INTO THAT, UM, LATELY. MM-HMM, , THANK YOU. I, I, I THANK YOU. DID YOU GET A SECOND? I DO NOT HAVE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND YOUR MOTION. AYE WE NEED MOTION. WELL, WE DON'T NEED A MOTION. HEY MA'AM. WE'RE TRYING TO, BUT WONDERFUL. THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT. WE'RE ADJOURNED. ? NO. YEAH, JUST TRYING TO GET OUTTA HERE. WANNA GET A MOVE? YEAH. THANK YOU. GOOD. WELL, DIDN'T YOU, HOW WAS, UH, SALUTE VETERAN SALUTE? DID YOU GO? YEAH, I'VE BEEN THERE A COUPLE TIMES. WHAT'D YOU THINK? * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.