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[Item 1 - Call Meeting to Order]
EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE HARLINGEN CITY COMMISSION.THE TIME IS NOW 5:33 PM WE WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
IT HAS BEEN DULY POSTED AS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW.
AT THIS TIME, I'LL ASK FOR EVERYONE
[Item 1a - Invocation]
TO PLEASE RISE AS COMMISSIONER LOPEZ LEADS US IN OUR INVOCATION.I'M GONNA DO A QUICK BIBLE READING.
IT SAYS, IF ANY OF YOU LACKS WISDOM, LET A ASK GOD.
IT GIVES GENEROUSLY TO ALL WITHOUT REPROACH, AND IT WILL BE GIVEN HIM.
JAMES ONE FIVE GOING INTO THE PRAYER ABSOLUTELY.
AN ALL KNOWING GOD NOTHING'S HIDDEN FROM YOUR SIGHT.
AND THE PRESCIENCE SINCE THE BEGINNING, ALL KNOWLEDGE EXISTED WITHIN YOU.
KINDLY SHARE YOUR KNOWLEDGE WITH US, MAKING US AWARE OF WHAT IT'S MEANT TO BE, PERMITTING OUR SOULS TO UNDERSTAND IT AND THE WISDOM TO AGREE WITH ITS OUTCOME.
PROVIDE US WITH A GIFT OF DISCRETION TO PRUDENTLY.
APPLY RECEIVED KNOWLEDGE TO ENSURE THE FULFILLMENT OF YOUR WILL AND KNOWLEDGE ARE FORTH FOREVER.
[Item 1b - Pledge of Allegiance]
OF ALLEGIANCE.I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND REPUBLIC FOR WHICH TO STAND NATION UNDER GOD, INVIS, LIBERTY AND JUSTICE JOINING US.
AND WE DO HAVE A FULL QUORUM, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
AND WE HAVE COMMISSIONER MIKE MESMER APPEARING VIA ZOOM FOR DISTRICT THREE.
[Item 2 - Conflict of Interest]
READ THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST UNDER STATE LAW.A CONFLICT OF INTEREST EXISTS OF A COMMISSION MEMBER OR CERTAIN MEMBERS OF THAT PERSON'S FAMILY HAS A QUALIFYING FINANCIAL INTEREST IN AN AGENDA ITEM.
MEMBERS WITH A CONFLICT OF INTEREST CANNOT PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSION NOR VOTE ON THE AGENDA ITEM.
ARE THERE ANY KNOWN CONFLICTS OF INTEREST TO DISCLOSE AT THIS TIME? NONE.
MOVING ON, ON TO ANNOUNCEMENTS.
[Item 3 - Announcements]
UM, ANNOUNCEMENT ITEM NUMBER THREE, WITH RESPECT TO ITEMS THAT LISTED ELSEWHERE ON THIS AGENDA, THE CITY COMMISSION MAY REPORT ON ITEMS[Item 3a - Mayor's Announcements]
THREE, A MAYOR'S ANNOUNCEMENT.I DON'T BELIEVE SHANNON, WE DON'T HAVE.
AND THEN I'M GONNA LEAVE FORWARD TO ALL THE FUN STUFF HAPPENING IN DISTRICT ONE THIS WEEKEND.
[Item 3b - City Manager's Announcements]
UM, ITEM THREE B, CITY MANAGERS ANNOUNCEMENTS.UM, YES, I WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT STARTING TOMORROW WE WILL BE HOSTING THE WESTERN ATHLETIC CONFERENCE TENNIS TOURNAMENT, UH, TENNIS CHAMP, UH, CHAMPIONSHIP AT THE HEB TENNIS CENTER FROM THURSDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.
SO THOSE OF YOU THAT WANT TO SEE SEMI-PROFESSIONAL TENNIS PLAYERS, PLEASE UH, GO OUT TO THE CENTER, UH, AND, AND JUST WATCH 'EM PLAY.
[Item 3c - City Commission Member Announcements]
UH, ITEM THREE C, CITY COMMISSION MEMBERS ANNOUNCEMENTS.UH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO CONGRATULATE THE HARLINGEN HIGH SCHOOL J-R-O-T-C UNIT FOR THE GREAT JOB THEY DID AT THE SKILLS COMPETITION WE HAD AT MMA LAST WEEKEND AND ALSO A BELATED HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO OUR BOARD PRO TEM RENIE PEREZ.
I THINK YOU TURNED 65, RIGHT? YEAH.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR, UH, PRESENTATION
[Item 4 - Presentation of Awards]
OF AWARDS.ANYBODY ELSE? ANYBODY ELSE? COMMISSIONER? NONE.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR, A, UH, PRESENTATION OF AWARDS.
UH, HARLINGEN HIGH SCHOOL, SOUTH HAWKS BOY, BOYS POWER LIFTING TEAM.
HELLO, GOOD EVENING, CITY MANAGEMENT, MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS,
[Item 4b - Harlingen High School South "Hawks" -Girls Powerlifting Team]
AND OF COURSE OUR AUDIENCE JOINING US TODAY.THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
UH, WE DO HAVE SOME GIRLS WHO QUALIFIED FOR THE STATE CHAMPION THIS YEAR, CHAMPIONSHIP THIS YEAR.
THEY MADE IT TO STATE AND SO THE MAYOR AND COMMISSION IS PRESENTING THEM WITH AWARD.
I WOULD LIKE THE GIRLS POWER LIFTING TEAM TO PLEASE STAND ROLL.
SO SOME STATE QUALIFIERS WE HAVE JOINING US HERE TODAY ARE ALEJANDRA, AVA, MADISON DELGADO, ALYSSA WADO, ALANDRA CORTEZ, AND MADISON CAMPOS.
SO SOME INDIVIDUAL ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT THEY HAD IS GABRIELA PLACE THIRD
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AND AVA, IS THAT CORRECT? AVA.AVA PLACE THIRD AS WELL AT STATE MAYA PLACED FOURTH, UM, WITH A BEST DEADLIFT WITH 300 AND 330 POUND DEADLIFT.
SHE PLACED FOURTH AND AMIRA PLACED FIFTH.
SO TODAY WE ARE PRESENTING THEM WITH THIS AWARD OF RECOGNITION FOR THEIR OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE AT THE UIL STATE CHAMPIONSHIP.
WE ARE VERY, WE ARE INCREDIBLY PROUD OF EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.
WHAT AN AMAZING ACCOMPLISHMENT.
I KNOW SOME OF YOU I FOLLOW PARENTS ON, ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND, AND, AND SEE THE AMAZING WORK THAT YOU DO.
SO I KNOW IT PUT, IT'S A LOT OF EFFORT AND A LOT OF PRACTICE AND A LOT OF TRAINING GOES INTO IT.
WE ARE SO HONORED THAT YOU ARE HERE WITH US.
IF YOU WOULD BE SO KIND TO JOIN US UP HERE IN THE FRONT SO WE CAN HAVE A PICTURE WITH THE COMMISSION AS YOU RECEIVE YOUR AWARD.
CONGRATULATIONS, CONGRATULATIONS.
ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS THE CENTER, SO IF EVERYONE COULD SHIFT THIS WAY.
SO IF WE CAN HAVE YOU ACTUALLY COME THIS GREAT.
[Item 4a - Harlingen High School South "Hawks"- Boys Powerlifting Team]
AN AWARD ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSION TO THE HARLINGEN HIGH SCHOOL, SOUTH HAWKS BOYS POWER LIFTING TEAM.THEY ALSO ADVANCED TO STATE AND THEY GOT FIRST PLACE AT STATE.
SO CONGRATULATIONS TO THE HARLINGEN HAWKS BOYS POWERLIFTING TEAM.
THEY ALSO HAVE A STATE CHAMPION ON THEIR TEAM.
WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME GILBERT ERMA, CAN YOU PLEASE RISE TO BE RECOGNIZED? SO GILBERT REPRESENTED HARLINGEN AT STATE AND HE, UM, I GUESS LIFTED IS, I HOPE THAT'S THE CORRECT TERM, 1,790 POUNDS STATE CHAMPION.
I DID THE MATH AND THAT'S LIKE SIX DIFFERENT FRIDGES THAT HE LIFTED.
UM, ALSO ON THE TEAM ADVANCING TO STATE AND PLACING OUR ETHAN HERNANDEZ WITH SECOND PLACE AMAZING AS WELL.
HE DID 1,225 POUNDS IN HIS WEIGHT CLASS, AS WELL AS THOMAS LONGORIA REPRESENTING HARLAN JEAN AT STATE AND SECURING SEVENTH PLACE, UM, COMING IN AT 1,630 POUNDS THAT HE LIFTED AS WELL.
AND I KNOW THERE ARE COACHES BACK THERE, SO WE'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE HIM AS WELL.
COACH GARCIA, CAN YOU PLEASE STAND? HE IS ACTUALLY THE COACH FOR BOTH TEAMS, THE GIRLS AND THE BOYS.
AND WE ALSO HAVE SOME OTHER STATE QUALIFIERS, RENO,
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VINUEVA, EXCUSE ME, AND EZRA AVIDA.IT TAKES A LOT TO ADVANCE TO STATE AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE THEIR COACH UP TO SHARE A FEW WORDS AS THE POWER LIFTING TEAM RECEIVES THE AWARD AS WELL.
UH, THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR, YOU KNOW, ALLOWING US TO COME OVER HERE AND FOR THESE AWARDS.
UH, THESE KIDS DID AN AMAZING JOB, BOTH BOYS AND GIRLS.
OUR GIRLS ACTUALLY ADVANCED 11 TO, I'M SORRY, 12 TO REGIONALS, WHICH WAS THE FIRST TIME IN SCHOOL HISTORY THAT WE ACTUALLY HAD A COMPLETE TEAM TO GO TO REGIONALS.
YOU KNOW, THAT A TEAM IS ALLOWED BY 12 AND WE HAD ALL GIRLS QUALIFY AND THEY DID AN AMAZING JOB.
OUT OF THOSE 12 GIRLS, 10 OF THEM MADE IT TO STATE, YOU KNOW, AND FIVE OF THEM PLACED.
SO THEY DID A VERY, YOU KNOW, A TREMENDOUS JOB.
OUR BOYS, UH, CAME IN AT FIRST PLACE AT STATE.
UH, THE, THIS SPECIAL THING ABOUT THIS, THE BOYS DIVISION, IT'S DIVISION ONE, WHICH THEY COMPETE AGAINST FIVE, EIGHT AND SIX EIGHT SCHOOLS, YOU KNOW, SO THEY'RE THE BEST IN FIVE, EIGHT AND SIX A.
THIS TEAM, THEY DID AN AMAZING JOB.
IT'S THE BEST TEAM I'VE BEEN A PART OF, UH, SINCE I'VE STARTED COACHING.
UH, THE ATHLETES HERE AT HARINGTON SOUTH, THEY'RE JUST TREMENDOUS.
YOU KNOW, THEY KEEP ON GETTING STRONGER AND BETTER AND THEY GET STRONGER AND BETTER AT THE RIGHT TIME.
THEY DID A GREAT JOB AND, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT THIS TEAM.
IF Y'ALL CAN JOIN US UP FRONT TO RECEIVE THE AWARD.
EACH ONE OF Y'ALL IS AMAZING AND OF COURSE, UH, WE DO HAVE A STATE CHAMPION AND SO WE'D LIKE TO PRESENT SOMETHING A LITTLE SPECIAL FOR HIM.
WE ARE PRESENTING HIM WITH A NICE DIAMOND AWARD, UM, FROM THE MAYOR AND COMMISSION THAT SHOWS THAT HE IS A STATE CHAMPION IN REPRESENTING HARLINGEN, BUT OF COURSE, ALL OF THE STUDENTS WHO EVEN MADE IT TO STATE ARE PHENOMENAL.
SO WE CONGRATULATE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.
UM, IF WE CAN HAVE GILBERT LIMA COME UP HERE REALLY QUICKLY, I'LL LET THE DISTRICT CALL.
UM, WELL THIS IS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY AND COMMISSION.
LIKE I SAID, THIS IS AN AWARD WE'RE GIVING TO GILBERT.
GILBERT HAPPENS TO BE ONE OF MY STUDENTS AT ORANGE AND SOUTH.
UM, I HAVE HIM FOR GOVERNMENTS AND UM, YOU KNOW, HE'S A GREAT STUDENT AND THE FACT THAT HE'S ABLE TO, UM, BECOME A STATE CHAMPION IS AMAZING.
NOT ONLY THE STAFF ED AT ORANGE AND SOUTH VERY PROUD, BUT THE ENTIRE CITY.
SO I KNOW IT IS A FAMILY EFFORT AND SO WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU AS WELL.
[Item 4c - Proclaiming April 29, 2024 , as "World Wish Day"]
ITEM SEAT PROCLAIMING APRIL 29TH, 2024 AS WORLD WISH DAY.HI, YES, MAYOR AND COMMISSION AS WELL AS OUR AUDIENCE.
WE HAVE MEMBERS OF MAKE-A-WISH FOUNDATION, RIO GRANDE VALLEY.
IN ATTENDANCE TODAY, UM, WE ARE PROCLAIMING THE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER PROCLAIMING MAKE-A-WISH DAY.
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TODAY, IF YOU CAN STAND TO BE RECOGNIZED, WE HAVE BECKY GEARHART, SHE IS THE PRESIDENT OF MAKE-A-WISH.WE ALSO HAVE, UM, AND IF YOU COULD PLEASE RESERVE YOUR APPLAUSE TILL THE END OF THESE NAMES REALLY QUICKLY.
ERICA DE LA CRUZ, EMILY VASQUEZ, MONICA GARZA, AND MEGAN REED.
AND IF WE MISSED ANYONE WHO JOINED US FOR MAKE-A-WISH, MY TRUE APOLOGIES.
AND, UM, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND READ THE PROCLAMATION THAT IS BEING PRESENTED.
WHEREAS ON APRIL 29TH, 1980, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICERS AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY IN PHOENIX, ARIZONA CAME TOGETHER TO GRANT THE WISH OF CHRIS GRESKI, A 7-YEAR-OLD BOY BATTLING LEUKEMIA WHO WISHED TO BE A POLICE OFFICER.
WHEREAS SIX OF THE WISH MAKERS INVOLVED IN CHRIS'S WISH WERE INSPIRED TO FORM A FOUNDATION THAT WOULD GRANT LIFE-CHANGING WISHES FOR OTHER CHILDREN WITH CRITICAL ILLNESSES.
THE ORGANIZATION KNOWN AS MAKE-A-WISH HAS SINCE GRANTED MORE THAN 585,000 WISHES WORLDWIDE, OPERATING IN EVERY COMMUNITY, INCLUDING HERE IN THE RE RIO GRANDE VALLEY, AND IN 50 COUNTRIES WORLDWIDE.
RIO GRANDE VALLEY WAS FOUNDED IN 1997 AND HAS GRANTED MORE THAN 1,600 WISHES HERE TO CHILDREN WITH CRITICAL WILL ILLNESSES IN COUNTIES OF HIDALGO, CAMERON, WILLIS, E BROOKS, KENNEDY AND STAR.
WHEREAS RESEARCH HAS SHOWN THAT WISHES CAN IMPROVE CHILDREN'S QUALITY OF LIFE AND PRODUCE BETTER HEALTH OUTCOMES.
WHEN A WISHES GRANTED, A CHILD FEELS A SENSE OF CONFIDENCE, JOY, AND HAPPINESS, NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT MAYOR NORMA PUL ON BEHALF OF THE HARLINGEN CITY CLINICIAN DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL 29TH AS WORLD WISH DAY AND RECOGNITION OF THE ANNIVERSARY THEN INSPIRE THE ORIGINAL WISH MAKERS TO CREATE, MAKE-A-WISH, WHICH PAVED THE WAY FOR MAKE A WISH, RIO GRANDE VALLEY AND THE GLOBAL WISH GRANTING MOVEMENT ON THIS DAY, WE RECOGNIZE THE COMMUNITY TO TAKE ACTION AND WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO SIGN UP TO BECOME WISH MAKERS IN ORDER TO MAKE MORE LIFE CHANGING WISHES POSSIBLE, BRINGING JOY, HOPE AND COURAGE TO OUR LOCAL CHILDREN.
AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE BECKY UP TO SHARE A FEW WORDS AS WELL.
THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY FOR HAVING US HERE.
I'M BECKY AND I'M THE CEO OF MAKE-A-WISH RO GRANDE VALLEY.
AND THIS IS ERICA DE LA CRUZ SINCE SHE IS OUR DIRECTOR OF WISHES AND WE'RE SO EXCITED THAT APRIL IS WORLD WISH MONTH.
IT'S A DAY THAT WE HONOR CHRIS.
IT'S A DAY THAT WE HONOR ALL THE CHILDREN WITH CRITICAL ILLNESSES THAT WE SERVE.
WE'RE SO FORTUNATE TO SERVE OUR KIDS IN THE RIO GRANDE VALLEY.
WE ARE GRANTING THIS MONTH IS WHEN WE GRANT OUR 1600TH WISH.
SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO DO IT.
YOU NOTICE THAT IT WAS JUST TWO OF US HERE AND ALL, A LOT OF NAMES ARE RED, BUT WE ARE REDOING A GIRL, LITTLE GIRL'S BEDROOM RIGHT NOW.
AND SO WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF TROUBLE PUTTING THE CABINET TOGETHER SO PEOPLE HAD TO STAY AND PUT IT TOGETHER BECAUSE WE JUST COULDN'T PULL IT.
BUT WE ARE SO FORTUNATE AND WE'RE SO THANKFUL THAT WE GET TO DO THIS.
WE GET TO GRANT WISHES TO CHILDREN, WE GET TO SEE THEM HAPPY, WE GET TO SEE THEM FILLED WITH JOY.
AND WHEN A CHILD CHOOSES A WISH TO GO TO BE, TO HAVE OR TO MEET, WE GET TO BE THERE TO HELP THEM HAVE THIS DREAM COME TO FRUITION.
WE'RE SO FORTUNATE TO HAVE KIDS IN THE CITY OF HARLINGEN THAT WE HELP RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 99 CHILDREN WAITING FOR THEIR WISHES TO BE GRANTED.
FOUR OF THEM ARE FROM THE CITY OF HARLINGEN.
WE'VE ALWAYS HAD SUCH GREAT SUPPORT FROM YOUR CITY AND WE'RE SO, SO THANKFUL FROM THE POLICE OFFICERS TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, TO THE JUNIOR LEAGUE, TO CITY COMMISSION.
WE ARE SO FORTUNATE TO HAVE YOU ALL HELP US.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US HERE AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HONORING CHRIS GRACIOUS, APPRECIATE IT.
SO TRULY FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART, AND I'M SURE THE ENTIRE COMMISSION, WE HONOR YOU TODAY AND EVERY DAY FOR THE HARD WORK THAT YOU DO.
WE KNOW IT MUST BE DIFFICULT, UM, BUT THE FACT THAT YOU DO IT AND YOU ARE PROVIDING, AS YOU MENTIONED SO ELOQUENTLY JOY AT A TIME THAT IS ESSENTIAL AND, AND JUST BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
WE THANK YOU SO MUCH AND PLEASE KNOW THAT YOU HAVE A PARTNER IN THE CITY OF HARLEEN ON THIS COMMISSION AND ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP AND FURTHER YOUR CAUSE.
AND WE DO HAVE CHRISTINA PROCLAMATION IF THE COMMISSION CAN, CAN JOIN ME.
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OKAY.[Item 4d - Mayor's Business of The Month - Beauty on the GoGo]
RIGHT.ITEM FOUR B, UM, MAYOR'S BUSINESS OF THE MONTH.
SO TODAY WE HAVE, UM, A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER JOINING US HERE TODAY.
DANIEL MUNI, CAN YOU PLEASE STAND? AWESOME.
SO WE ARE DELIGHTED TO PRESENT HIM WITH AN AWARD, THE MAYOR'S BUSINESS OF THE MONTH AWARD.
HE IS THE OWNER OF BEAUTY ON THE GO-GO.
AND WE HAVE, UH, VISITED HIS BUSINESS RECENTLY AND PREPARED A VIDEO THAT WE'D LIKE TO SHOWCASE.
MY NAME IS DANIELS, I'M THE OWNER OF BEAUTY ON THE GO-GO STUDIO.
BEAUTY ON THE GO-GO STUDIO IS IS A MICRO BUSINESS.
I WANTED TO PROVIDE A ONE OF A KIND EXPERIENCE.
I WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME CARE CONCERN AND A SOFT TOUCH TO A PERSON'S SKIN.
I WANTED TO PROVIDE A ONE-ON-ONE EXPERIENCE INSIDE OF A SMALL SPACE, MY SPACE, A SAFE SPACE FOR WAXING HAIR REMOVAL AND FACIALS AND COMFORT.
I OPENED MY STUDIO IN 2019 WITH THE HELP OF MY FAMILY AND CLIENTS.
I DEFINITELY PLAN TO THRIVE HERE IN ARLINGTON.
SO I'M IN THE BUSINESS OF RELATIONSHIPS AND I LIKE TO DEVELOP AND KEEP THEM.
I JUST WANT TO THANK GOD FOR EVERYTHING.
I WANT TO THANK MY CLIENTS AND I WANT THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW TO SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL BEAUTY ARTISTS.
I WANT YOU ALL TO ENCOURAGE US AND PROVIDE US WITH BUSINESS.
WE'RE HERE TO HELP YOU LOOK AND FEEL YOUR BEST AND ENHANCE YOUR BEAUTY BECAUSE YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL.
HOW ABOUT A ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR DANIEL? SO I USED TO GET MY BROWS DONE AT ULTA, TMI, BUT I ALWAYS WONDERED WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PERSON WHO WOULD DO MY BROWSE, DANIEL.
AND NOW I KNOW
HE IS AWESOME AT HI AT WHAT HE DOES.
SO WE ARE DELIGHTED TO PRESENT THIS AWARD TO DANIEL UNI FOR HIS OUTSTANDING CONTRIBUTIONS IN THE FIELD OF AESTHETICS.
HE OPENED HIS BUSINESS IN 2019.
IT BEGAN WITH A VISION OF WORKING INDEPENDENTLY, BUILDING LOCAL CLIENTELE, WHICH HE HAS SUCCESSFULLY ACHIEVED BY OFFERING PERSONALIZED SERVICES IN THE COMFORT OF HIS CLIENT'S HOME BEFORE EXPANDING TO HIS DEDICATED LOCATION RIGHT OFF THE EXPRESSWAY.
ALTHOUGH HE'S NOT FROM HARLINGEN, HE NOW CALLS HARLINGEN HOME.
AND IT IS STRATEGICALLY LOCATED BECAUSE HE HAS CLIENTS THAT COME FROM THE MID VALLEY AS WELL AS BROWNSVILLE TO HARLINGEN TO GET THEIR EYEBROWS DONE AND WHATNOT, AS WELL AS FACIALS.
DESPITE THE CHALLENGES SUCH AS OCCASIONAL SLOWDOWNS IN NAVIGATING THROUGH THE PANDEMIC'S IMPACT, WHICH HAD A VERY SEVERE IMPACT ON THE BEAUTY INDUSTRY, DANIEL'S PASSION SHINES THROUGH IN HIS FAVORITE ASPECT OF HIS WORK, BRINGING CARE, COMFORT AND CONFIDENCE TO HIS CLIENTS THROUGH METICULOUS WAXING TECHNIQUES AND REJUVENATING FACIALS.
SO WE APPLAUD DANIEL FOR HIS UNWAVERING DEDICATION TO THE AESTHETIC INDUSTRY AND HIS COMMITMENT TO ENHANCING THE WELLBEING OF HIS CLIENTS.
I DIDN'T GIVE HIM TOO MUCH OF A WARNING, BUT HE'S GONNA COME UP AND SHARE A FEW WORDS AS WELL.
I'M VERY OVERWHELMED WITH GRATITUDE AND UM, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU EVERYONE SO MUCH AND, UH, GO OUT THERE, GO OUT THERE AND SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL BEAUTY BUSINESSES.
SO I WILL JUST SAY FOR FOLKS THAT DON'T HAVE A SMALL BUSINESS, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO TAKE THAT JUMP AND NOT KNOW AND TO LEAVE THAT STABILITY THAT YOU HAVE WITH THE PAYCHECK AND KNOWING THAT YOU'RE GONNA GET THAT CHECK TO BE ABLE TO PAY YOUR BILLS.
AND SO TO REALLY GO OUT THERE AND FOLLOW YOUR PASSION AND YOUR DREAM, THAT TAKES COURAGE.
AND I KNOW A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESSES HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY TOOK THAT RISK IN 2019 AND THEN 2020
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CAME AND IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT AND CHALLENGING.BUT TO SEE THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO BE RESILIENT, TO PERSEVERE AND TO BE HERE AND TO CONTINUE TO OFFER THAT SERVICE IS TRULY AMAZING.
SO YOU SHOULD BE REALLY, REALLY PROUD OF YOURSELF.
AND I'D ASK THE COMMISSION IF THEY CAN PLEASE JOIN ME.
AND THAT IS IN YOUR DISTRICT, COMMISSIONER MORALES.
WHERE IS IT THOUGH? LIKE WHERE SPECIFICALLY GRANVILLE ROAD.
UM, RIGHT WHERE THE KETOS DONUTS USED TO BE.
WASN'T, IT'S NOT THE SAME ONE, BUT DIFFERENT.
READY? ONE, TWO, AND 3, 4, 1, 1, 2, AND THREE.
BIKINI, TALKING ABOUT YOUR BIRTHDAY GIFT FOR NOW.
NEITHER DO WE WAIT FOR MR. ZALES? NO, NO, NO.
SO THANK YOU CHRISTINA FOR, FOR THE, FOR THOSE PROCLAMATIONS AND AWARDS.
[Item 5 - Citizen Communication]
AND, AND MOVE ON.UM, CITIZENS COMMUNICATION AT THIS TIME, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO ADDRESS THE CITY COMMISSION AND SPEAK ON ANY MATTER NOT SPECIFICALLY LISTED FOR PUBLIC HEARING ELSEWHERE IN THIS AGENDA.
PLEASE NOTE THAT THE CITY COMMISSION MEMBERS MAY NOT RESPOND TO COMMENTS OR DELIBERATE ON TOPICS ADDRESSED.
MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT, UM, WE HAVE ONE CITIZEN COMMUNICATION.
IT WOULDN'T BE A MEETING WITHOUT YOU HERE.
YOU SHOULD GET THE PRICE RIGHT.
UH, RAYMOND REYES, 7 0 6 NANTUCKET DRIVE, OF COURSE, HARINGTON, TEXAS.
ORIGINALLY FROM SAN ANTONIO, BUT CALLED HARINGTON HOME.
SO, UM, SINCE I'M AROUND A LOT MORE, I NOTICED A LOT OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, I WAS ALWAYS GONE DOING WHAT I DO.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT CAME TO MIND, UM, MY, I'M ENJOYING MY GRANDKIDS AND THEY'RE ACTIVE IN SOCCER.
SO I WENT OUT TO THE SOCCER FIELD OUT THERE WHERE ENA SAYS, I GUESS WHERE THE INDUSTRIAL PARK IS.
AND MAN WAS I SURPRISED 'CAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN THAT PROJECT FIRST CAME TO LIGHT, IT WAS VERY WELL MAINTAINED.
THE GRASS WAS GREEN AND STUFF, BUT NOW, YEAH, IT NEEDS SOME SERIOUS HELP.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S LIKE LITERALLY CRACKS, LIKE AS IF THERE WAS AN EARTHQUAKE THROUGH THERE.
THE THING THAT WAS VERY CONCERNING TO ME IS WHILE THESE KIDS ARE OUT THERE AND THEY'RE ALL AGES ARE RUNNING AROUND KICKING THE SOCCER BALL, SOME OF THEM TOOK SOME TUMBLES THAT COULD LEAD TO AN INJURY, WHICH I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S SET UP ON A LEGAL STANDPOINT, BUT THAT COULD LEAD TO SOME LIABILITY.
UM, LET'S JUST SAY THANK GOD IT WASN'T ONE OF MY KIDS AND STUFF.
AND OF COURSE YOU'VE GOT ELDERLY PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT OLDER THAN ME, BUT I'M GETTING THERE, UM, THAT ARE TRYING TO NAVIGATE ALL THIS STUFF.
UM, SO I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED BEFORE IT GETS INTO A SITUATION WHERE IT'S JUST GONNA COST A LOT OF MONEY TO GET
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THAT UP TO PAR.UH, ON THE SAME TOKEN, UM, THEY UTILIZE WHAT USED TO BE THE WHITE WING STADIUM.
MY, MY GRANDSON GOES TO THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB AND THEY PLAY KICKBALL.
BROUGHT BACK A LOT OF GOOD MEMORIES FOR ME.
AND, UM, AGAIN, I WAS SURPRISED ON HOW BAD THE BLEACHERS ARE AND THE FACILITY IN GENERAL.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE WAS A BIG INVESTMENT ON THAT ASPECT.
I'VE ALWAYS FELT THAT IT CAN BE UTILIZED FOR A LOT OF THINGS.
I, MYSELF, WITH SOME OF THE PROMOTERS I WORK WITH, HAVE ACTUALLY UTILIZED THE FACILITY FOR EVENTS.
UH, SOMETIMES THEY PAN OUT AND SOMETIMES MOTHER NATURE RAINS ON OUR PARADE, BUT THAT'S WHY WE GET INSURANCE, UH, WHEN THAT HAPPENS.
BUT AGAIN, SO IT DOESN'T COST THE TAXPAYERS AN EXUBERANT AMOUNT OF MONEY.
WE DON'T WANT IT TO SOMEHOW ESCAPE US AND END UP BEING LIKE THE WATER SITUATION THAT WE NOW HAVE TO FACE.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
AND NOW I'M VERY BIG ON OVERSIGHT AND EFFICIENCY.
UH, THAT'S HOW I DO ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS I DO.
UM, I JUST HAVE MORE TIME TO DO 'EM NOW.
SO I THINK IF WE ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES NOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE GRUMBLING ABOUT IT DOWN THE LINE AND AVOID UNNECESSARY ISSUES BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE WE MAKE THE APPROPRIATE ADJUSTMENTS AS WE'RE GOING IN THAT DIRECTION.
AND, UH, THAT'S BASICALLY ALL I HAVE.
SO, UM, JAVIER, MAYBE WE CAN, UH, ON THAT NOTE, WE CAN MEET NEXT WEEK.
'CAUSE I KNOW PROBABLY THE COMMISSION HAS BEEN GETTING MESSAGES AND STUFF ABOUT PARKS.
UM, MAYBE ME, YOU AND OSCAR CAN, CAN MEET AND TALK ABOUT, UM, THE WORK THAT WE ARE DOING AND THE WORK THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DO.
USUALLY WHENEVER UH, PEOPLE HAVE CALLED ME, I'VE HAD TWO CALLS ABOUT OUR TWO TALK CONVERSATIONS LAST WEEK, ONCE I INFORMED THEM OF ALL THE GREAT WORK I'S DOING ON THE EAST SIDE.
AND THEN THEY GO OUT THERE AND THEY SEE IT.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE PRETTY HAPPY.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE MAYBE WANT TO DO, UH, CHRISTINA.
I KNOW I JUST DIDN'T WANNA GIVE HER MORE WORK, BUT I, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NEEDED.
AND THEN I GOT, AND I MEANT TO TALK TO FORD.
I GOT A, UH, UH, ON FOR PENDLETON, SOME CONCERNS ABOUT PENDLETON TOO AND SOME PHOTOS AND THINGS OF, OF THAT NATURE.
AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SHOW ALL OF THE WORK.
'CAUSE YOU ARE DOING A LOT, RIGHT? LIKE, WE GET THE REPORTS, BUT MAYBE WE NEED TO SHARE THAT A LITTLE BETTER.
UH, CHRISTINA, I THINK THAT, UM, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT PARKS, WE PROBABLY HAD TO PUT AN AGENDA ITEM.
'CAUSE THAT REALLY ISN'T ON THE AGENDA RIGHT NOW.
WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT FOR THE NEXT MEETING IF YOU STILL FEEL IT NECESSARY, MAYOR.
[Item 6 - Approval of Minutes]
ITEM NUMBER SIX, APPROVAL OF MINUTES.[Item 6a - Regular Meeting of February 21 , 2024]
MEETING OF FEBRUARY 21ST, 2024.IS THERE ANY, UH, AMENDMENTS? DANIEL FORD
OTHER THAN THAT, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
[Item 7 - Consent Agenda]
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, UH, CONSENT AGENDA.NO DISCUSSION IS ANTICIPATED ON ANY OF THE ITEMS IN THIS SECTION BECAUSE THEY ARE ROUTINE BUSINESS.
WERE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET ADOPTION PROCESS OR HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED AS A STAFF REPORT OR DISCUSSION ITEM.
THIS ITEM WILL BE CONSIDERED COLLECTIVELY BY A SINGLE VOTE UNLESS A COMMISSION MEMBER REQUESTS AN ITEM BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO STATE THAT MR. CERVANTES HAS REQUESTED TO PASS ON ITEM NUMBER E.
SO WE WILL PASS ON E IS THERE ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED FROM CONSENT? UH, GG, ANYTHING ELSE? IS THERE A MOTION, UH, TO APPROVE? DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? NO, NO.
I'LL TAKE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ALL THE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT LIST OTHER THAN E AND G AND THAT E BE TABLED FOR ANOTHER MEETING.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PETTIS.
CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND READ THE AGENDA ITEM, AMANDA? OH, YEAH.
UM, CONSIDER, UH, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE INSTALLATION OF SPEED HUMPS AT THE FOLLOWING LOCATION.
THIS ITEM WAS REQUESTED BY COMMISSIONER DANIEL AND LOPEZ AND COMMISSIONER FRANK MORALES.
OH, I JUST WANTED TO ADD A LIST.
I WANTED TO GET IT JUST TESTED.
UM, IT WAS GONNA BE DIXIELAND ROME BETWEEN BOTHWELL AND HAVERFORD.
DIXIELAND, YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO TEST IT TO SEE.
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I COULD, UH, GET A CHECK DONE ON MATT'S BETWEEN HUNTER AND 10TH STREET.I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM G WITH THE AMENDMENT OR SUPPLEMENTS THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER KINSLEY AND COMMISSIONER EZ JUST ADDED.
OKAY, SO THERE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LOPEZ.
[Item 8 - Staff Reports and Other Discussion Items]
OKAY, NUMBER EIGHT.UH, STEPH REPORTS, UH, ANOTHER DISCUSSION.
ITEMS ITEM IN, IN THIS SECTION ARE EXPECTED TO REQUIRE ACTION BY THE CITY COMMISSION AND ARE GENERALLY FOR INFORMATION ONLY.
HOWEVER, ANY ITEM LISTED IN THIS SECTION MAY BECOME AN ACTION ITEM WITH THE REQUEST OF THE MAYOR OR AFTER THE REQUEST OF TWO COMMISSIONER MEMBERS OR THE CITY MANAGER.
[Item 8a - City Manager's Reports]
MR. GONZALEZ, DO YOU HAVE ANY REPORTS? UH, NO.I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT, UH, I HAD A REQUEST FROM SCOTT JOOF TO, UM, UH, HAVE HIM COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION AND PRESENT ON THE HOTEL MOTEL USES.
SO WE'LL BE LOOKING AT PUTTING THAT ON ONE OF THE AGENDAS, UH, FOR DISCUSSION OR JUST THE PRESENTATION LATER.
HOW MUCH LATER? UM, I NEED TO CHECK HIS SCHEDULE AND THEN REPORT ON THE ALL THE WORK HAVE YOU HAD DOING? WE CAN DO THAT TOO.
UH, I THINK THAT'LL BE A, A ITEM FOR DISCUSSION SEPARATE AND APART, UH, FROM THE REPORTS.
THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE AN OPEN DISCUSSION AMONGST THE COMMISSION.
[Item 8b - Staff Reports]
BE STAFF REPORTS.[Item 8c - Presentation by Dr. Sudershan Pasupuleti regarding UTRGV "Age Friendly RGV(AF-RGV) Initiative" Program]
BY DR.I'M SORRY IF I MISPRONOUNCED HIS NAME.
REGARDING U-T-R-G-V-H FRIENDLY RGV, UH, A-F-R-G-V INITIATIVE PROGRAM.
UH, I AM CHEN POSSIBILITY A PROFESSOR AT THE U-T-R-G-V SCHOOL OF SOCIAL WORK.
UH, I HAVE BEEN IN THE VALLEY FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS SINCE I MOVED FROM OHIO, AND I'M GOING TO THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THIS PROJECT, UH, TO YOU AND WHERE I'M WORKING VALLEY WIDE TO PROMOTE AGE FRIENDLY RGV.
AND THIS IS A PROJECT I WORKED IN, UH, OHIO, IN A CITY OF TOLEDO AND IMPLEMENTED IT AND TRYING TO REPLANT THIS PROJECT VALLEY WIDE.
THE REASON FOR PUTTING TOGETHER THIS, UH, INITIATIVE FOR THE WHOLE VALLEY INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON ONE CITY IS BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PERMEABILITY AMONG THE CITIES, AND THEN THERE ARE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE BETWEEN THE CITY.
SO, UM, CAN WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE? OH, JUST A, YEAH, SO, OKAY.
SO THIS, I HAVE PUT TOGETHER A TEAM.
UM, I HAVE PUT TOGETHER A TEAM OF, UH, UM, UH, SOCIAL WORK EDUCATORS AND ALSO SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
WHEN I PROPOSED A GRANT IN RESPONSE TO, UH, U-T-R-J-V SOCIAL, UH, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AWARDS.
SO SCHOOL OF SOCIAL WORK AND, UH, TWO, THREE YEARS AGO ANNOUNCED A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AWARD.
IT'S A VERY SMALL GRANT, BUT THIS IS THE PROPOSAL I PUT TOGETHER THAT I WANT TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY ON AGE FRIENDLY, UH, MATTERS.
SO WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER, UH, EMULATE AND PUT TOGETHER THIS PROJECT, UH, IN CONSISTENT WITH THE WORLD, WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION'S AGE FRIENDLY CITY FRAMEWORK.
AND THIS FRAMEWORK INVOLVES PROMOTING CITY TO, UH, PROMOTE CERTAIN INFRASTRUCTURE SERVICES AND A SUPPORTIVE ENVIRONMENT SO THAT THE OLDER ADULTS CAN LIVE ACTIVELY HEALTHILY AND THRIVE IN THE, WITHIN THEIR CITIES.
SO, JUST, I'M NOT GOING TO READ THE WHOLE THING IS ACTIVATING IS VERY IMPORTANT THING FOR THE OLDER ADULTS WHO ARE ANY AGE, BUT ESPECIALLY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 60 PLUS, UH, OLDER ADULTS WHO CAN LEAVE HAPPILY IN ANY CITY HERE.
SO THERE ARE FOUR THINGS, FEW THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN IN A CITY IN ORDER TO BE AGE FRIENDLY.
ONE IS THAT, UH, CITY POLICIES, SERVICES, SETTING STRUCTURES AND INFRASTRUCTURE NEED TO BE FRIENDLY.
AND THE THERE NEEDS TO BE KEPT IN MIND WHILE PLANNING THOSE ACTIVITIES AND SERVICES, RECOGNIZING WIDE RANGE OF CAPACITIES AND RESOURCES THAT OLDER ADULTS HAVE BECAUSE THEIR CAPACITIES ARE CHANGING, ANTICIPATING AND RESPONDING TO FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF AGE RELATED ISSUES AND NEEDS THAT THEY HAVE.
AND ALSO THEIR LIFESTYLES WILL CHANGE.
AND THEY, THEY SINCE ARE GOING TO CHANGE
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IN A, UH, WORLD AGE, AND THEY ARE VULNERABLE AS WELL.AT THE SAME TIME, THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO OFFER TO THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITIES.
UM, AND THESE ARE THE DIMENSIONS ON WHICH AGE FRIENDLY COMMUNITY WILL WORK.
A IP HAS TAKEN A BIG LEAD TAKING THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION'S INITIATIVE ON AGE FRIENDLY CITIES AND COMMUNITIES.
SO THESE ARE THE DIMENSIONS, ARE THE AREA ARENAS WHERE CERTAIN ACTIVITIES SHOULD BE HAPPENING WITHIN A CITY SO THAT THESE, THOSE PLANNING, THOSE ACTIVITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURES WOULD BE FRIENDLY FOR THE ELDERLY PEOPLE.
SO WHEN YOU ARE DESIGNING THE HOUSES, HOUSING DESIGN IS ALSO VERY IMPORTANT TO MAKE IT FRIENDLY, BECAUSE THESE DAYS WE HAVE A TILE WHICH PREVENT FALLS AMONG THE ELDERLY AND ALSO THEY STRUCTURE THE WAY YOU DESIGN THE HOUSE CAN ALSO BE AGE FRIENDLY HOUSING AND OUTDOOR SPACES, TRANSPORTATION, COMMUNICATION INFORMATION, CIVIC PARTICIPATION, THEIR INVOLVEMENT IN THE CITY AND THE CITY ACTIVITIES AND THEIR INCLUSION IN VARIOUS ACTIVITIES.
AND CITY LIFE IS VERY IMPORTANT.
SO WHETHER, HOW IS CITY DOING IN TERMS OF THESE ASPECT IN THESE AREAS AND MAKING THEM THE CITY AS FRIENDLY AS POSSIBLE FOR THE OLDER POPULATION AND PEOPLE.
SO THE SAME THING, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, WH ALSO PROMOTED THIS, A A RP IS THE PREVIOUS SLIDE IN THIS ONE.
SO WHAT I AM WORKING ON CURRENTLY IS I'M CONDUCTING A STUDY TO IDENTIFY THE NEEDS OF THE OLDER PEOPLE IN THE VALLEY.
SO A SURVEY, SIMPLE SURVEY, 20 QUESTION SURVEY, DISTRIBUTING IT.
SO WE ALREADY COLLECTED ALMOST 300, UH, UH, 15, UH, SURVEYS FROM ACROSS THE VALLEY, AND WE WANT TO SHARE THOSE RESULTS WITH, UH, WITH THE CITIES HERE.
AND THEN WHAT WE ARE EXPECTING THE CITIES TO DO IS, AND YOUR CITY, INCLUDING YOUR CITY HALL ENGINE, IS COME UP WITH, UH, SOME KIND OF PROCLAMATION THAT SAYING THAT THE AGE-FRIENDLY, WE WANT TO BE AGE-FRIENDLY CITY.
SO IN TEXAS AND NATIONWIDE, THERE ARE SEVERAL CITIES ALREADY THEY PROCLAIMED AS AGE-FRIENDLY CITIES.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, IN TEXAS WE HAVE, UH, DALLAS, FORT WORTH, AUSTIN, SAN ANTONIO, UH, HOUSTON.
ALREADY THEY HAVE EMBRACED THIS FRAMEWORK AND THEN THEY COULD PROCLAIM THEMSELVES AS AGE-FRIENDLY CITY.
AND THERE ARE OTHER FEW OTHER SMALLER CITIES IN TEXAS, THEY HAVE DONE IT.
SO WHAT I'M REQUESTING AND ADVOCATING IS CITY OF HARLINGEN COULD THINK ABOUT PROCLAIMING AS AGE-FRIENDLY CITY, AND THAT COULD INITIATE AND TRIGGER VARIOUS INITIATIVES THAT COULD BE AS FRIENDLY AS POSSIBLE FOR THE ELDERLY, UH, OLDER ADULTS HERE.
AND U-T-R-G-B WANTS TO SUPPORT IT, THE THIS INITIATIVE THAT WOULD BE UNDERTAKEN BY THE CITY.
SO WE WILL, WE HAVE SOME RESOURCES, WE HAVE SOME EXPERTISE, AND THAT COULD BE HELPFUL, MADE AVAILABLE FOR THE CITIES TO WORK ON THIS FRAMEWORK.
AND WITH THAT, I WANT TO, UH, STOP THERE AND, UH, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS I MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER.
WELL, WELL, THANK YOU FOR, FOR BEING HERE WITH US AND PRESENTING.
WE DO HAVE, UM, ON THE AGENDA AN ITEM, AN ACTION ITEMS TO CREATE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE.
AND CAN YOU DISCUSS WHAT YOUR ROLE WOULD BE IF THAT COMMITTEE IS FORMED? YEAH.
SO WHEN YOU CAN PROMOTE A COMMITTEE, APPOINT A COMMITTEE WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS AND SOME OF YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, IF THEY CAN, UH, SERVE ON THE ONE, AT LEAST ONE MEMBER.
AND I CAN BE, I SERVE AS A RESOURCE PERSON, AS A CATALYST, BRINGING ALL THE INPUTS, INFORMATION AND RESOURCES AVAILABLE, AND ALSO INCLUDING THE CAPACITY BUILDING OF THE STAFF AND TRAINING THEM AND, AND ALL THAT.
AND ALSO, I CAN ASSIST THE CITY TO APPLY FOR SOME GRANTS ARE AVAILABLE TO BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU NEED INVESTMENT, EXTERNAL, ADDITIONAL RESOURCES INTO THIS COMING INTO THE CITY.
AND WE CAN THINK ABOUT ALL THOSE, UH, ACTIVITIES.
AND WE ARE HERE TO SUPPORT THE CITY AND COLLABORATE WITH YOU, NOT ONLY ME, BUT UTRG, THE OTHER RESOURCEFUL PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, OTHER DEPARTMENTS CAN ALSO COME INTO THIS PROJECT.
AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD ON SOME OF THE INITIATIVES.
IS THERE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[Item 9 - Public Hearings]
UH, PUBLIC HEARINGS.AT THIS TIME, THE MAYOR WILL INVITE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO HAVE FILED, UH, FILLED OUT THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THE CITIZEN'S COMMUNICATION FORM.
TO ADDRESS EACH ITEM LISTED IN THIS SECTION, PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE TOPIC OF THAT PUBLIC HEARING.
IF MORE THAN ONE PUBLIC HEARING IS BEING HELD, YOU'LL BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK DURING EACH TOPIC, PROVIDED YOU HAVE FILLED OUT THE PUBLIC HEARING AND COMMUNICATION FORM FOR THE APPROPRIATE TOPIC.
IF YOU ARE SIGNED UP FOR TWO OR MORE PUBLIC HEARINGS, YOU WILL BE LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES.
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UM,[Item 9a - Public hearing amending the City of Harlingen Code of Ordinances Chapter 111 , Zoning , Article XIII , Section 111-62 Use Chart; by requiring a Special Use Permit for a car wash use when located in a General Retail (" GR"), Light Industry (" LI "), or Heavy Industry (" HI ") Districts; and Article XII , Special Use Regulations and Restrictions, Section 111-336, Car Wash Regulations, by establishing guidelines for a car wash use, and Section 111 -413, Special Use Permit, by clarifying the notification process for a car wash use. Applicant: City of Harlingen.]
INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.UM, OR DO YOU HAVE ANYONE, AMANDA, ON THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING? UM, ON THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING? UM, I BELIEVE NOT MAYOR, BUT ON THE SECOND I DO.
CAN WE READ THE, UM, ITEM, THE FIRST ITEM? YES, MA'AM.
UM, A PUBLIC HEARING AMENDING THE CITY OF HARLING AND CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER ONE 11, SHOWN IN ARTICLE 13, SECTION ONE 11 DASH 62 USED CHART BY REQUIRING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A CAR WASH USE WHEN LOCATED IN A GENERAL RETAIL GR LIVE INDUSTRY OR HEAVY INDUSTRY DISTRICTS.
AND ARTICLE 12, SPECIAL USE REGULATIONS AND RESTRICTIONS, SECTION ONE 11 DASH 3 36 CAR WASH REGULATIONS BY ESTABLISHING GUIDELINES FOR A CAR WASH USE, AND SECTION ONE 11 DASH FOUR 13 SPECIAL USE PERMITS BY CLARIFYING THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS FOR A CAR WASH, USE APPLICANT CITY OF HARLINGEN ON THAT ONE.
I DON'T HAVE, UM, A PUBLIC HEARING.
I WILL MOVE ON TO THE SECOND ONE.
UM, AT THIS TIME, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND HAVING NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK AND HAVING SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, WE WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
[Item 9b - Public Hearing on water and sewer rate adjustments to provide for forecasted operating expenses, capital asset costs, and funding of Harlingen Waterworks System's Five-Year Capital Improvement Plan]
ONE IS, UH, PUBLIC HEARING ON WATER AND SEWER RATE ADJUSTMENTS TO PROVIDE FOR FORECASTED OPERATING EXPENSES, CAPITAL ASSET COST AND FUNDING OF HARLING AND WATER WORK SYSTEM, FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.AND ON THAT ONE, WE HAVE, UH, FRANK LOZANO.
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MR. LOZANO, FRANK LOZANO, GOOD EVENING CITY COMMISSION AND FELLOW HARLINGEN KNIGHTS.
I COME TO SPEAK OUT ON BEHALF OF THOSE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY WHO SUFFER FROM IN, UM, INCOME LIMITATIONS, FIXED INCOME, PEOPLE WHO CAN'T AFFORD ADDITIONAL TAXATION ON THEIR, UH, MEAGER AMOUNTS, UH, THAT THEY LIVE UNDER.
THIS INCREASE TO THE CITY WATER RATE IS IMPORTANT FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, AND THAT IS CERTAINLY NOT IN DISPUTE.
HOWEVER, WHAT IS IN DISPUTE IS THE MANNER IN WHICH THE LEVY IS GONNA BE BURDENED ON THE CITIZENS OF HARLINGEN.
NOW, THERE ARE TWO COMPONENTS TO THE CITY, UH, WATER RATES.
THERE'S THE BASE RATE, WHICH IS PAID REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU USE ANY WATER WHATSOEVER.
AND THEN THERE'S THE ACTUAL USAGE RATES, WHICH DEPENDS ON, UH, HOW MUCH WATER IN GALLONS YOU USE PER MONTH OR PER BILLING CYCLE.
THE ISSUE WITH THIS, THE PROPOSED RATE THAT THE CITY COMMISSION PLANS IS THAT THEY WANT TO INCREASE BOTH THE MINIMUM BASE RATE AS WELL AS THE USAGE RATE, WHEREAS THE PEOPLE WHO USE THE MOST WATER SHOULD DISPROPORTIONATELY, SHOULD DISPROPORTIONATELY BEAR THE BRUNT OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS NECESSARY TO MAKE THIS, UM, WATER WORK SYSTEM FUNCTION.
NOW, THE ISSUE, OF COURSE, IS THE FACT THAT WHEN YOU DON'T USE ANY WATER WHATSOEVER, YOU ARE STILL PAYING A HIGHER RATE UNDER THIS NEW PLAN.
THIS DOES NOT, THIS DOES NOT INCENTIVIZE WATER CONSERVATION.
THERE ARE THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO EITHER BECAUSE THEY CANNOT AFFORD IT OR BECAUSE THEY CHOOSE TO BE, UM, CONSCIENCE IN THEIR WATER USAGE CAN PAY A LOWER RATE IF THEY ARE ALLOWED TO RETAIN THE LOWER BASE RATE OF THE WATER USAGE FEE.
INCREASING THE BASE RATE OF THE WATER USAGE FEE ELIMINATES THAT INCENTIVE, AND IT ALLOWS PEOPLE WHO OVERUSE WATER AND WHO ARE NOT AS CONSCIOUS TO BE SUBSIDIZED BY THOSE OF US WHO DO CONSERVE.
NOW, IN ANY OTHER INSTANCE, THIS WOULD BE CONSIDERED ATTACKS, ATTACKS ON, ON SOMEONE WHO IS NOT USING AS MUCH WATER AS THEIR NEIGHBOR.
AND FOR THAT PURPOSE, I BELIEVE THAT THE CITY COMMISSION SHOULD AT LEAST REVISIT OR SPEAK TO THOSE, UM, CONCERNS.
NOW, AT THE LAST CITY COMMISSION MEETING, THERE WAS A SPLIT VOTE IN THE COMMISSION, A THREE TO TWO IN TERMS OF PASSING ON ADDITIONAL SAVINGS TO, UH, CERTAIN GROUPS OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD INCREASE BY APPROXIMATELY A DOLLAR FOR THE REST OF US WHO DON'T QUALIFY FOR THAT SPECIAL, THAT SPECIAL GROUP STATUS, UH, AN INCREASE IN COST.
NOW THAT INCREASE COULD INSTEAD BE BORN BY HIGHER, UH, USAGE RATES, WHICH WOULD INCENTIVIZE WATER CONSERVATION AS OPPOSED TO JUST KEEPING, UH, INCREASE IN THE BASE RATE AS WELL.
SO FOR THAT REASON, I WANNA STRESS TO THE CITY COMMISSION TO HOPEFULLY RE-LOOK OR REVISIT THE, THE TYPES OF INCREASES THAT YOU'RE USING AND TO NOTE THAT, UM, THERE IS A BETTER WAY TO TO FUND THIS.
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UH, GOOD EVENING.UH, RON LOZANO, I DID WANT TO STRESS WHAT HE SAID AT THE ONSET ABOUT THE REGION WE LIVE IN.
PERENNIALLY IS GOING APPARENTLY TO HAVE WATER ISSUES REGARDLESS OF WHAT Y'ALL DO.
BUT, UM, YOU HAD THE GUMPTION TO, I THINK IN EITHER NOVEMBER OR EARLY DECEMBER, HAVE AN INITIAL MEETING.
THEN YOU HAD ONE ON, UH, JANUARY 8TH AND ALSO THE BEGINNING OF FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR IN A JOINT SESSION WITH THE HARDING AND WATER WORK SYSTEM.
AND I THINK SOMETIMES WE GET, UM, BOGGED IN POLITICS BECAUSE IT WAS NOTED THAT WE DID NOT HAVE THE LOWEST RATE IN THE VALLEY.
UH, I THINK EDINBURG HAD A 28 AND, AND IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THERES WAS GONNA GO UP, UH, AND IT PROBABLY ALREADY HAS IN THIS INTERIM, AND OURS WAS AROUND 43.
BUT, BUT THE POINT BEING IS NOW WE'RE STARTING TO SAY, WELL, WE'RE THE LOWEST.
BUT IF IT IS, IT'S A VERY, VERY RECENT THING.
AND, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL, FOR INSTANCE, A LOT OF CITIES AS YOUR OWN ADVOCATE OR THE WHO, MR. TIM, UH, AND THE BOARD HIRED FROM THE DALLAS THAT WAS UNABLE TO CATCH A FLIGHT ONE TIME NOTED EDINBURGH WAS ABOUT 260 MILLION THAT THEY WANTED TO EXPEND.
AND WE WERE AT ABOUT 2 58, WHICH IS NOW BEING BANDIED ABOUT IN THE PRINTED PRESS, WHICH AMOUNTS THE WAY THINGS WORK IN THE VALLEY TO ALMOST THE ENTIRETY OF WHAT THE MEDIA'S GONNA WAKE UP IN THE MORNING AND READ THE PAPER.
SO WE CUT IT IN HALF, WHAT WE'RE POST POSTULATING TO THE CITIZENRY RIGHT NOW.
AND, AND THAT'S WHAT I MEANT ABOUT PALATABLE POLITICS.
I THINK IF TIM NEEDS THE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FUNDING LIKE OTHER VALLEY CITIES TO ACCOMPLISH IT, LIKE I SAID, THE DISPARITY WAS ABOUT 2 MILLION AT ONE POINT BETWEEN US AND EDINBURG.
AND OF COURSE, EDINBURG IS SUBSTANTIALLY LARGER RIGHT NOW THAN WE ARE THAT WE NEED TO CONFRONT IT BECAUSE AT SOME POINT, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE CAUGHT ON THE SHORT END IF WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT WHAT WE THINK THE CITIZEN CITIZENRY IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE.
SO I HOPE CONSERVATION DOES BECOME, UH, AT THE FOREFRONT.
UH, THERE WAS ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING, I I DON'T KNOW HOW WE, MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE USED THE PLURAL, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT REGARDLESS, UH, ON BOTH ISSUES, WE NEED TO CONSERVE WATER AND APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION.
NO MORE AT THIS TIME HAVING NO ONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
[Item 10 - Action Items]
NUMBER 10, ACTION ITEMS CITY COMMISSIONER WILL DISCUSS, CONSIDER, AND TAKE ANY ACTION DEEMED NECESSARY ON ITEMS LISTED IN THIS SECTION, INCLUDING THE ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION OR AN ORDINANCE 10, A[Item 10a - Consideration and possible action to approve an ordinance on first reading amending the City of Harlingen Code of Ordinances Chapter 111 , Zoning , Article XIII , Section 111-62 Use Chart; by requiring a Special Use Permit for a car wash use when located in a General Retail ("GR"), Light Industry (" LI "), or Heavy Industry (" HI ") Districts; and Article XII , Special Use Regulations and Restrictions, Section 111 -336, Car Wash Regulations , by establishing guidelines for a car wash use, and Section 111-413, Special Use Permit, by clarifying the notification process for a car wash use. Applicant: City of Harlingen.]
CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE ON FIRST READING, AMENDING THE CITY OF HARLINGEN, CODE OF ORDINANCES.ORDINANCES CHAPTER ONE 11 ZONING.
USE CHART BY REQUIRING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A CAR WASH USE WHEN LOCATED IN A GENERAL RETAIL RG LIGHT INDUSTRY, LIR, HEAVY INDUSTRY H HIGH DISTRICTS.
AND ARTICLE 12, SPECIAL USE REGULATIONS AND RESTRICTIONS, SECTION ONE 11 DASH 3 36 CAR WASH REGULATIONS BY ESTABLISHING GUIDELINES FOR A CAR WASH USE AND SECTION ONE 11 DASH FOUR 13 SPECIAL USE PERMIT BY CLARIFYING THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS FOR A CAR WASH.
USE APPLICANT, CITY OF HARLINGEN PLANNING AND ZONING PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, MAYOR ION.
SO WE HAVE AN, AN ALTERNATIVE, UH, ORDINANCE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, WHICH WILL MAKE, UH, NEW CAR WASHES A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
SO IT'S JUST AN ADDITIONAL STEP THAT WILL BE REQUIRED FOR NEW, FOR NEW PROJECTS SIMILAR TO BARS AND OTHER THINGS THAT, UH, ARE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UH, REQUIRED.
SO WE HAVE DIFFERENT, UH, TYPES OF CAR WASH.
YOU HAVE THE HAND CAR WASH WHERE YOU TAKE YOUR CAR TO, UH, PLACES AND THE WORKERS, UH, WASH IT FOR YOU.
WE HAVE A LOT OF THESE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
YOU ALSO HAVE YOURSELF, UH, WASH CAR WASH WHERE YOU
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WASH THE CAR YOURSELF.AND RECENTLY WE'VE BEEN GETTING A LOT OF THE MODERN CAR WASHES, UH, LIKE THE ONE PICTURE HERE BY THE, BY THE SAMS CLUB.
SO ALL THREE CATEGORIES WILL FALL UNDER THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT IF THE ORDINANCE IS APPROVED.
UH, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SEVERAL THINGS IN THE ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
UH, I PUT 'EM IN YOUR PACKET, UH, BY CATEGORY.
SO DEPENDING ON THE ZONING, UH, CERTAIN THINGS REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
WE SEND NOTICES TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS.
WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS, AND IF THINGS ARE DONE WELL, THE, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS, IS APPROVED.
SO SEVERAL THINGS ARE ALREADY SPECIAL USE PERMITS.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO ADD, UH, ONE MORE THING TO BE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN, IN THE COMMERCIAL, IN THE GENERAL RETAIL AND THE IN INDUSTRIAL ZONES.
WE'RE ADDING, UH, WE'RE PROPOSING GUIDELINES IN YOUR ORDINANCE.
UH, SO IF A NEW CAR WASH COMES IN, IF THE ORDINANCE IS APPROVED, THESE ARE THE GUIDELINES THAT THEY WILL HAVE TO ABIDE BY.
SO THEY WILL BE, UH, WE WILL CHECK FOR THAT DURING THE APPLICATION PROCESS.
UH, NOR NOTABLE IS, UH, HAVING HOURS OF OPERATION THAT WILL BE IN THE ORDINANCE, UH, UH, TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS APPROVED BY THE CITY ENGINEER THAT WILL BE REQUIRED, UH, TO ADDRESS, UH, TRAFFIC CONCERNS, UM, WATER CONSERVATION, UH, FEATURES THAT WILL BE REQUIRED, UH, AS WELL.
AND WE'RE PROPOSING, UH, UH, 1000 FOOT, UH, NOTIFICATION AREA INSTEAD OF THE STANDARD 200 FEET.
AND THAT WAY THEY, IF THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED CAR WASH, THE NEIGHBORS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, PROVIDE FEEDBACK OR OBJECT TO THE, TO THE PROJECT.
AND I PRESENTED TO THE, UH, PLANNING ANTONIO COMMISSION, THEY HYPOTHETICAL, UH, PROJECT WHERE A NEW CAR WASH IS PROPOSED IN THE PROPERTY JUST EAST OF THE CH RESTAURANT ALONG EXPRESSWAY 83.
SO THE CH RESTAURANT IS RIGHT HERE.
THIS PROPERTY HERE IS TOTALLY HYPOTHETICAL.
UH, IF WE GO WITH THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA, ONLY FIVE OR SIX, UH, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNERS GET THE NOTICE.
IF WE GO WITH THE EXPANDED NOTIFICATION AREA, THAT'S THE SAME PROPERTY, 50, YOU KNOW, ABOUT 50 PEOPLE GET THE NOTICE.
AND SO THERE'S MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE, FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO PROVIDE THE FEEDBACK OR OBJECT TO THEIR PROJECT, UH, DURING THE, DURING THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
AND ALSO, UH, SO THE, THE PLANNING AS SONIA COMMISSION REALLY LIKED THAT THEY, THEY GET TO REVIEW THE SITE PLAN, THEY COULD REQUEST CHANGES TO THE SITE PLAN, PLACE ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS, UH, LIKE ADDITIONAL BUFFER REQUIREMENTS.
UH, SO WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WORKING WITH THE BOARD TO, UH, SO THAT IS A, A WIN-WIN PROJECT FOR, FOR EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY INVOLVED.
SO THE PLANNING AND SONY COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL, UH, UNANIMOUSLY, UH, NOBODY OBJECTED TO THE, DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, UM, IF, WHERE, WHERE ARE THEIR COMMENTS? BECAUSE IT, THEY'RE NOT IN MY HARD COPY.
THEY USUALLY INCLUDE THEIR COMMENTS.
THEY, THE MINUTES OR THEIR MINUTES, THEY'RE, YES, I THINK THEY'RE IN THE PUBLIC HEARING SECTION.
WE, WE SUBMITTED THEM, UH, LAST FRIDAY.
JAVIER, IF SOMEBODY CAME IN NOW IN THE FUTURE AND DECIDED THEY'RE GONNA BUILD A NEW LAUNDROMAT OR A GOLDEN CORRAL WHERE THEY WASH THOUSANDS OF DISHES EVERY DAY, ARE WE GONNA REQUIRE THEM TO RECIRCULATE THEIR WATER? WE, WELL THEY HAVE, RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE TO JUST APPLY, COMPLY WITH THE BUILDING AND FIRE CODES.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE USING THOUSANDS OF GALLONS OF WATER A DAY.
ALSO, ARE WE GONNA REQUIRE THEM TO RECIRCULATE IN THE FUTURE? MM-HMM.
NO, NOT NOT FOR THOSE TYPES OF BUSINESSES.
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? SO WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE WATER CONSERVATION, RIGHT? AND, UH, SO IT IS A, THIS IS A GUIDELINE THAT IS PROPOSED, BUT IT, IT COULD BE REMOVED IF, IF THAT'S THE WISH OF THE CITY COMMISSION.
THIS JUST, THESE ARE JUST PROPOSED GUIDELINES THAT COULD BE CERTAIN.
SOME, SOME OF 'EM COULD BE REMOVED OR ADDITIONAL COULD BE ADDED AS AS THE WISHES OF THE COMMISSION.
SO IT'S COULD YOU EXPLAIN, OH, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.
NUMBER 11, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT ONE TO ME? SO OFF STREET PARKING SHALL BE PROVIDED THE PROPERTY IN THE RATIO RATIO OF NOT LESS THAN THREE PARKING SPACES FOR EACH WASHING STALL, OR FIVE PARKING SPACES FOR EACH AUTOMOBILE THAT MAY BE ACCOMMODATED ON THE WASHING LINE, UH, WITHIN A FACILITY.
DEFINE OFF STREETT PARKING IS PARKING SPACES WITHIN THE PRIVATE PROPERTY.
OH, SO ON THE PROPERTY? CORRECT.
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YES.I THINK 'CAUSE SOME OF THE LOCATIONS THEY HAVE, UH, THEY DON'T HAVE, THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OF A FOOTPRINT TO ACCOMMODATE AND THAT'S WHY YOU GET THE FOLKS THAT ARE WAITING OUTSIDE INSTEAD OF ON THE PROPERTY.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE PURPOSE OF, OF THIS WOULD BE.
AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE TRAFFIC STUDY WOULD BE APPROVED BY LOUIS, SO THERE WOULD BE MINIMAL IMPACT.
THERE'S STILL GONNA BE THOSE ISSUES WITH LINES, BUT THIS WILL TRY TO MITIGATE SOME, UM, THE RECIRCULATING OF THE WATER.
I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN THE REST OF OUR REGION, AND I KNOW THAT, AND I TALKED TO JAVIER ABOUT THIS.
UH, I KNOW BROWNSVILLE JUST HAD THE SAME, UM, COME BEFORE THEIR COMMISSION AND, AND THEY APPROVED IT UNANIMOUSLY WITH MORE OF THE EMPHASIS ON THE RECIRCULATING OF, OF THE WATER TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS CONSERVATION.
I THINK THAT MOST OF THESE, UM, BIG OUTFITS, THE AUTOMATED ONES WILL ALREADY BE IN COMPLIANCE, UM, BECAUSE THEY DO THAT ALREADY.
AND I THINK IT'D BE GOOD FOR THEM TO SHOW THAT THEY'RE CERTIFIED BY THE CITY THAT MIGHT EVEN BRING THEM ADDITIONAL, ADDITIONAL BUSINESS KNOWING THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO THEIR PART FOR, UH, WATER CONCERT CONSERVATION.
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE I THINK BETWEEN OUR, AND THE ONE IN BROWNSVILLE IS THEY DID HAVE A, A FIVE MILE, LIKE YOU COULD NOT OPEN WITHIN FIVE MILES OF ONE ANOTHER FIVE MILE SEEMS, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD MEAN THERE'D PROBABLY BE NO MORE CAR WASHES IN HARLINGEN.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THIS COMMISSION WANTS TO DO.
UM, BUT MAYBE THAT, IF THAT'S A CONCERN, UH, MAYBE ONE MILE OR TWO MILES, BUT NOT THE, THE FIVE MILES.
AND HOW WILL YOU ENSURE, UH, SO IN THIS ORDINANCE THERE'S NOTHING DISTANCE.
IT'S JUST IF YOU WANT A NEW CAR WASH, YOU HAVE TO APPLY FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND, AND ABIDE BY THESE GUIDELINES.
BUT THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY BE NEXT, YOU KNOW, ONE NEXT TO EACH OTHER.
THERE'S NO DISTANCE, WHICH I THINK WORKS FOR HAR ENGINE.
UM, BUT I MEAN THAT'S, I JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE SO THAT WAY THE COMMISSION KNOWS THAT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THE REGION IS GOING.
AND BASED ON THE COUNTY JUDGE AND HIS RECENT, UM, NOTIFICATIONS ON WATER CONSERVATION AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, I THINK THAT'S WHY THEY'RE GOING SO STRONGLY OUT IN, IN BROWNSVILLE AND THEIR SITUATION IS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN, THAN OURS.
BUT HOW WILL YOU IN TERMS OF, THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE, I GUESS IS NEW IF, IF YOU HAVE EXISTING BUSINESSES THAT ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE, THIS WILL NOT IMPACT THAT.
NO, THEY WILL, THEY WILL BE, UH, ALL THE EXISTING CAR WASHES AND CAR WASHES UNDER CONSTRUCTION WILL BE GRANDFATHERED.
THEY WILL NOT BE A AFFECTED BY THIS.
AND SO IF, UM, SAY WE HAVE A BUSINESS THAT WANTS TO EXPAND, THEN THAT WILL TRIGGER FOR THEM TO COMPLY, IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT.
I FEEL THAT THE CAR WASHES THAT WE HAVE, AND THEN WE WILL GET IN THE, IN THE FUTURE, IT'LL PLATEAU.
SECONDLY, THE BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HARLINGEN AND BROWNSVILLE I THINK IS ABOUT 500,000 BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT SPACEX USES EVERY TIME THEY LAUNCH A ROCKET.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO DIFFERENT WORLDS.
WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON RIGHT NOW WITH THESE NEW CAR WASHES, THEY'RE ALREADY CONSERVING WATER.
OKAY? SO I DON'T SEE THE NEED TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS AND PUT 'EM UNDER OUR THUMBS.
SECONDLY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS GOING ON LAST TWO WEEKS AGO WAS CARS BEING PARKED IN THE STREET.
OKAY? MY ALSO CON MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS I HAVE A MINIMUM OF THREE LOCATIONS THAT SELL BA BARBA ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS.
ARE WE GONNA TURN AROUND AND BACKTRACK AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU CAN'T PARK IN THE STREET.
I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT THAT CHANCE.
SO FOR THAT REASON AND THOSE REASONS, I DON'T CARE FOR THIS, THESE REGULATIONS.
I'M SORRY, I I CAN'T TAKE A CHANCE ON THAT.
I'VE SEEN THOSE BATTLE COA LINES, MAN, YOU AIN'T KIDDING, BROTHER.
SO, WELL, FIRST I THINK THE DIFFERENCE ON THE, AND I WILL SAY, BECAUSE I'VE GONE INTO THAT BARCO LINE RIGHT THERE ON THE ALEJANDRO, IS IT ALEJANDRO'S, RIGHT? NO, THAT'S ON 4 9, 9, OH NO, NO, NOT ALEJANDRO'S.
IT'S THE ONE THAT IS F ON F STREET.
WHAT'S IT CALLED? THE WHITE ONE SIGNS.
SO YOU'RE NOT THAT ONE TOO, YOU'RE NOT PARKED THERE.
THERE'S ADDITIONAL PARKING ON THOSE SIDE STREETS FOR, FOR PEOPLE.
THEY'RE NOT, AND THEY'RE GOING IN AND OUT AND GETTING THEIR FOOD AND THEY'RE LEAVING AND IT, IT, IT, THEY ARE LONG LINES, BUT THEY'RE NOT RIGHT IN THE MAIN, UH, CORRIDORS OF OUR, OF OUR COMMUNITY.
AND LIKE YOU SAID, MOST OF THESE, UM, MOST OF THESE, UH, CAR WASHES ARE COMPLYING ALREADY.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WOULD IMPACT THEM IN A NEGATIVE WAY.
IT, IT PROVIDES THE, IF YOU WOULD'VE READ THE MINUTES FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING IT, THEY HAD A VERY GOOD DISCUSSION ON HOW THIS WOULD GIVE THEM THE TOOLS TO MAKE SURE
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THAT OUR VISION TO BEAUTIFY HARLINGEN AND TO PROVIDE THOSE SITE PLANS AND LANDSCAPING AND JUST BEING GOOD COMMUNITY PARTNERS, IT GIVES THEM THE ABILITY TO, TO HELP IN THAT, IN THAT REGARD.AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH, I'M SURE THAT MOST OF THESE, THESE ORGANIZATION OR THESE BUSINESSES ARE DOING TRAFFIC STUDIES ANYHOW BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE ADDITIONAL REVENUE COMING INTO THEIR BUSINESSES.
UH, AND, AND OUR SMALL MOM AND POP THEIR GRANDFATHERED, THEIR, THEIR GRANDFATHERED IN.
BUT THERE IS A CONCERN AND THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING THE GRAY WATER THAT COULD POTENTIALLY, THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK INTO THAT WITH THOSE CAR WASHES.
BUT THERE'S NOTHING ON HERE THAT I THINK IS SO LIMITING, UM, THAT IS GOING TO BE PREVENTING AN OPERATION.
LIKE THE ONES THAT ARE THOSE BIG, BIG BUSINESSES COMING INTO TO THE CITY OF HARLINGEN.
IT JUST WILL GIVE BE, THEY WILL BE GOOD PARTNERS SIMILAR TO THE BATTERY STORAGE THAT COME, THAT COME IN AND THEY FOLLOW THESE GUIDELINES AND THEY PROVIDE FOR LANDSCAPING AND HELP IN PARKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN OUR, IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S, THERE'S A, THERE'S A, YOU CAN'T COMPARE THAT TO THE BARBA LINE.
WELL, I DON'T WANNA TAKE A CHANCE BECAUSE I CAN SEE IT TO WHERE IT'S JUST GONNA EVOLVE.
WE DO IT FOR ONE, WE'LL DO IT FOR ANOTHER AND I'M NOT GONNA TAKE A CHANCE.
I'M SORRY, GENTLEMEN, LADIES SMORE ASKED SOME QUESTIONS.
UM, SO IS ANYONE DONE ANY STATISTICAL STUDIES? HOW MUCH WATER DOES A CAR WASH USE AND WHAT TYPE OF CAR WASH USES HOW MUCH WATER? SO THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WATER CONSERVATION, BUT YET WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THESE COMPANIES USE.
UH, THE SECOND POINT IS THAT, AS MORALES POINTED OUT, THERE WILL BE A PLATEAU, A MARKET SATURATION, AND NOBODY ELSE IS GOING TO COME IN BECAUSE YOU DON'T NEED 72 OF THESE.
SO LET THE MARKET DICTATE, NOT GOVERNMENT DICTATE, BUT LET THE MARKET DICTATE WHO CAN COME INTO THE MARKET TO ESTABLISH A BUSINESS SUCH AS A CARWASH.
AND IT'S LIKE, YEAH, WE WANNA GROW HARLINGEN.
YEAH, WE WANNA MAKE HARLINGEN FRIENDLY FOR BUSINESS, BUT NOT YOU CAR WASHES.
I, UH, YOU KNOW, I, TOO MANY CONFLICTING INFO HERE.
WELL, ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO ADD IS THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THIS ORDINANCE ACTUALLY RESTRICTS ANY, THERE'S NO RESTRICTIONS ON ANY CAR WASHES ACTUALLY COMING IN.
ALL THEY'RE ASKING THAT THEY DO IS MEET BY, IS TO MEET CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS.
AND WHILE YOU, WHILE YOU'RE CORRECT, MIKE SAYING THAT WE DON'T KNOW, UM, HOW MUCH THE, HOW MUCH WATER THESE CAR WASHES USE, SOME OF THE MORE MODERN ONES, LIKE NORMA WAS SAYING EARLIER, ALREADY RECYCLE THE WATER.
BUT THE THING IS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NEW ONES THAT COME IN, CONTINUE THAT PRACTICE AND USE THESE RECIRCULATE RECIRCULATION SYSTEMS AND RECYCLE THE WATER BECAUSE THERE IS NO DEBATE THAT WE ARE IN A DROUGHT RIGHT NOW IN THE VALLEY.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, LIKE SHE SAID, I READ IT, I SAW IT ON FACEBOOK HOW EDDIE
AND THEN YOU HAVE ALL THESE OTHER PEOPLE WHERE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S TRYING TO GET MEXICO TO APPROVE THAT TREATY.
WHILE WE MAY NOT BE HAVING SEVERE ISSUES RIGHT NOW IN HARINGTON RIGHT NOW, UM, JUST LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE, FRANK, THIS IS THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE AS WELL.
'CAUSE WHAT IF IN THE FUTURE WE DO HAVE WATER ISSUES AND THIS IS GOING, UH, THIS IS DOING SOMETHING TO ADDRESS THAT WE'RE BEING PROACTIVE INSTEAD OF BEING REACTIVE BY, UM, ASKING THIS, THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL IDEA.
GOING TO YOUR BARBA THING, UM, THAT'S ON SUNDAYS, THAT'S ONE DAY.
CAR WASHES CAN OKAY, MAYBE ON A SATURDAY.
BUT THEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CAR WASHES.
COULD BE ANY DAY OF THE WEEK WHERE THE TRAFFIC IS BACKED UP.
RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE, UM, ON, ON TYLER, WE HAVE ONE THAT'S GONNA BE IN BY CHILI'S, AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE THAT'S RIGHT THERE, BLUE WAVE.
SO THERE'S A LINE RIGHT THERE THAT'S GONNA, THERE'S GONNA CAUSE A MAJOR BOTTLENECK ON THE TRAFFIC.
AND ALL THIS IS REQUIRING IS, UH, JUST A TRAFFIC STUDY.
AGAIN, THIS IS NO WAY RESTRICTING, UM, NEW, NEW CAR WASHES FROM COMING IN.
ALL IT'S SAYING IS LIKE, LOOK, WE HAVE THESE REQUIREMENTS.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE CONSERVING WATER.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT MAKING TOO MUCH NOISE FOR THE NEIGHBORS.
AND WE'RE ALSO MAKING SURE THAT, UM, THAT YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS BENEFITING THE COMMUNITY.
BUT I I, AND THAT TAKES ME RIGHT BACK TO WHERE I, THE QUESTION I ASKED ORIGINALLY.
I MEAN, IF WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT WATER CONSERVATION, WHICH WE SHOULD BE, ARE WE GOING TO, THE NEXT TIME WE HAVE ANOTHER HIGH VOLUME USER COME INTO TOWN AND WANT TO OPEN A BUSINESS, ARE WE GOING TO REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT ON THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE USING A LOT OF WATER AND NEED TO RECIRCULATE? I THINK WE, AND I USE LAUNDROMATS AND LARGE RESTAURANTS AS MY TWO MAIN POINTS.
I WOULD, I WOULD TAKE IT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
BUT IN, IN REGARDS TO RESTAURANTS, RESTAURANTS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE THEY WASH DISHES.
'CAUSE THAT WOULD PREVENT DISEASES FROM SPREADING TO THE COMMUNITY.
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CAR WASHES, NOT THE SAME THING.CAR WASHES DON'T REALLY HAVE TO DO WITH PUBLIC HEALTH.
HONESTLY, I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT.
FORD AND I, AND I THINK THAT MOVING FORWARD, THAT THAT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD TASK THE PLANNING AND, AND ZONING TO REALLY LOOK AND DO THE RESEARCH THAT MIKE IS SUGGESTING ON HOW MUCH WATER THEY'RE REALLY USING MOVING FORWARD.
WE DO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT CONSERVATION.
AND, AND ALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE HIGH VOLUME USERS, WE TALK ABOUT THIS IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
THERE MAY BE SOMEONE THAT COMES INTO THE INDUSTRIAL PARK AND, AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO, UM, BE FRIENDLY, DEVELOPER FRIENDLY, BUT FINDING A GOOD BALANCE TO BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT, CIRCULATE, RECIRCULATING, UH, RECYCLING OF THAT WATER.
I THINK THAT RIGHT NOW THAT THESE CAR WASHES AND I HAVE DONE SOME RESEARCH, I THINK FOR EVERY, EVERY SIX GALLONS OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT, THEY USE ONE GALLON OF FRESH WATER, AND THEN THE OTHER FIVE ARE CIRC.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALREADY DOING THIS.
I MEAN, IT, IT'S IN THEIR BUSINESS MODEL.
I THINK THEY WOULDN'T MAKE AS MUCH MONEY IF THEY WEREN'T DOING THAT.
SO I THINK THAT THERE'S A, A BENEFIT FOR THEM TO DO IT.
BUT BUSINESSES THAT COME IN, IN THE FUTURE THAT ARE HIGH VOLUME, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION AS A COMMISSION.
AND SURELY IF THERE ARE BUSINESSES THAT ARE DOING THAT, THEN WE NEED TO PARTNER WITH THEM.
AND MAYBE THAT MEANS WE INCENTIVIZE FOR THEM TO, TO BE, UH, RECYCLING THEIR WATER.
BUT I DON'T THINK, I MEAN, GOING THROUGH THIS LINE BY LINE, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT IS TOO LIMITING FOR CAR WASHES.
THE FIRST ONE IS TALKING ABOUT COMPLYING WITH OUR CITY NOISE ORDINANCE.
THEY SHOULD ABSOLUTELY DO THAT.
WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UM, MAKING SURE THAT THAT NOISE ISN'T GOING TO IMPACT AT THIS POINT, WE COULD HAVE THEM RIDE UP, JUST LIKE YOU MENTIONED IN AT CHEDDAR.
I MEAN THAT THERE'S NO SAYING THAT THEY COULDN'T BE THERE.
AND IF THEY ARE THERE, THERE'S A WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD BACK THERE, UM, THAT MIGHT HAVE AN ISSUE, ISSUE WITH THAT.
BUT IF THEY'RE ABLE TO SHOW, HEY, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO HEAR THIS FROM YOUR HOUSE, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT, AND WE'RE GONNA COMPLY.
AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO THINK ABOUT THE AESTHETICS OF, OF ALL OF THAT.
IT'S STEWART PLACE CROSSING AND IT'S GOING TO BLEND IN.
WELL THEN, YOU KNOW, WE WELCOME THEM INTO, INTO OUR CITY.
BUT WE HAVE TO BE LOOKING AT BEAUTIFYING HARLINGEN, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE GREEN SPACES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, CONSERVATION, LANDSCAPING, AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR, THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE COMING IN ARE BUSINESSES THAT ARE GOING TO CONTRIBUTE TO OUR LONG-TERM GOALS, WHICH IS THE NEXT GENERATIONS TO COME TO BE PROUD OF THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY, THAT THEY RESIDE IN.
AND I, SO AGAIN, I DON'T THINK IT'S, IT'S TOO, UH, RESTRICTIVE.
THERE IS, UH, SOME, SOME, I GUESS THE, UM, UTILITY BOXES THAT SHALL BE SCREENED WITH LANDSCAPING.
IT MIGHT COST A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY, BUT IT'S GOING TO LOOK BETTER.
IT'S GOING TO LOOK BETTER FOR THE COMMUNITY.
SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, UM, I AGREED WITH EVERYONE WHEN COMMISSIONER PE COMMISSIONER PETTIS WAS SAYING, YOU CAN'T COME IN TO TO, TO HARLINGEN IN CERTAIN CORRIDORS BECAUSE THERE IS, WE SHOULD BE BUSINESS FRIENDLY.
BUT THIS HERE IS WORRYING ABOUT OUR ENVIRONMENT, TALKING ABOUT WATER CONSERVATION, BEAUTIFYING HARLINGEN, AND WE GET THE CALLS FROM OUR COMMUNITY.
WE'VE HAD PEOPLE COME UP HERE AND TELL US ABOUT HOW WE NEED TO MAKE CAR ENGINE NICER AND HOW WHEN THEY DRIVE THROUGH TOWN THAT THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT THEY SEE.
AND THIS IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
IT'S GONNA TAKE YEARS FOR US TO GET TO WHERE WE WANT TO BE.
BUT THIS IS A GOOD STEP FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
OKAY, SO BACK TO THE 1960S, CALIFORNIA, WE'VE GOTTA CONSERVE WATER.
THE SUGGESTION WAS SHOWER TOGETHER AND TO URINATE IN A BUCKET AND POUR IT OUTSIDE.
UM, THAT'S HOW YOU CONSERVE WATER.
IF YOU WANNA FOLLOW THE CALIFORNIA ROUTE.
AND YOU SEE WHERE THAT'S LED 45 YEARS LATER.
WELL, LUCKILY WE LIVE IN TEXAS, MIKE
UH, BUT ONCE AGAIN, LET THE BELLS OF ECONOMIC FREEDOM RING.
THEY WILL SELF-REGULATE THEIR OWN INDUSTRY.
UM, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TASKED TO DO AS A COMMISSION, IS TO LOOK TOWARDS THE FUTURE IMPLEMENT POLICY AND TO MAKE DECISIONS, UM, THAT ARE GONNA BETTER THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
I, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT COMPROMISE BETWEEN WHAT I PROPOSED, BECAUSE THIS IS AT THE SAME TIME, THIS IS PROVIDING THE CITY SOME TYPE OF OVERSIGHT.
AND IT'S ALSO GIVING THE GENERAL PUBLIC, UM, UM, BASICALLY SHOWING THEM THAT WE'RE LISTENING TO THEM.
WE'RE, WE'RE PUTTING SOME TYPE OF OVERSIGHT ON THESE CAR WASHES, WE'RE CONSERVING.
UM, SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT IS GOOD.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOOD.
I DON'T SEE WHY ANYBODY WOULD BE AGAINST THIS.
I UNDERSTAND MIKE IS A BIG, UM, UM, PROPONENT OF LAISSEZ FAIR ECONOMICS AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF.
UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, NO, MS. GREENY, I'M A BIG PROPONENT OF FREEDOM.
UM, BUT THE, THE THING IS THOUGH, IS THAT, UM, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF OVERSIGHT
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WITH THIS.THIS IS A, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS BOTHERING A LOT OF PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND I THINK THIS IS A, THE MOST MINIMUM WAY THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THIS.
WHILE AT THE SAME TIME, GIVING THESE BUSINESSES AS MUCH FREEDOM AS THEY WANT TO COME IN, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, ADDRESSING THESE ISSUES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND I WILL SAY THE LAST TIME THAT WE WERE HERE AND, UM, COMMISSIONER FETIS WAS THE LOAN, UM, VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE LAST, UH, I AGENDA ITEM IN REGARDS TO CAR WASHES.
UH, A LOT OF FOLKS ON, ON THIS COMMISSION SAID, WELL, THE PLANNING AND ZONING UNANIMOUS UNANIMOUSLY SHOT IT DOWN AND THAT WE SHOULD RESPECT THAT.
AND AT THIS POINT, THEY HAVE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED AND REALLY FEEL THAT THIS GIVES THEM THE TOOLS TO DO THEIR JOB WITH THE SITE PLAN AND REALLY PREPARE IT AND GET IT READY FOR THE CITY COMMISSION TO VOTE ON AND APPROVE.
'CAUSE THAT'S THE GOAL, RIGHT? I THINK I'VE, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF REQUESTING SUVS AND THEY'RE NOT FUN.
BUT PLANNING AND ZONING WORK WITH YOU AND, AND HAVE YET DOES A GOOD JOB OF WORKING WITH THE APPLICANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THEY GET TO THE COMMISSION, IT'S EASY FOR US TO APPROVE THEM.
AND SO I, I DON'T SEE HOW THIS WOULD BE ANY DIFFERENT.
AND IF OTHER BUSINESSES NEED TO BE INCLUDED LATER ON IN THE FUTURE, IT WOULD BE A CASE BY CASE.
UH, AND THERE'D HAVE TO BE VALID, VALID REASONS.
I THINK RIGHT NOW, THERE, THERE IS FOR, FOR THESE BUSINESSES.
ARE WE READY FOR A MOTION? WE HAVE TO READ THE CAPTION.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I'M SORRY.
OKAY, MIKE, UM, MARK IN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY OF HARLINGEN CODE BOARD SAYS CHAPTER ONE 111 ZONING ARTICLE 13, SECTION A HUNDRED ELEVEN SIXTY TWO USE CHART BY REQUIRING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR CAR WASH USE WHEN LOCATED IN A GENERAL RETAIL GR LIGHT INDUSTRY, LI OR HEAVY INDUSTRY HI DISTRICT IN ARTICLE 12, SPECIAL USE REGULATIONS AND RESTRICTIONS, SECTION A HUNDRED ELEVEN, THIRTY THREE THIRTY SIX CAR WASH REGULATIONS BY ESTABLISHING GUIDELINES FOR CAR WASH USE IN SECTION A HUNDRED ELEVEN, FOUR HUNDRED THIRTEEN SPECIAL USE PERMIT BY CLARIFYING THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS FOR CAR WASH USE, PROVIDING FOR PUBLICATION AND ORDAINING.
OTHER MATTERS RELATED TO THE FOREGOING.
I MAKE A MOTION TO REJECT THIS, UH, ORDINANCE.
[Item 10b - Consideration and possible action to approve the preliminary construction plans and final platwith a variance request regarding the minimum lot depth and lot area fo r Lots 4-9 and 15 forthe proposed Paloma Ranch Subdivision , bearing a legal description of 33 .91 acres of landmore or less, out of Blocks 1, 2, and 3, F.Z. Bishop Subdivision of the South Half of SurveyNo. 41 , located along the east side of Paloma Lane approximately 370 feet north of GarrettRoad. Applicant: Moore Land Surveying , LLC c/o UR Homes Texas, LLC .]
NEXT ITEM 10 B, GO AHEAD.UM, 10 B UH, CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND FINAL PLAT WITH A VARIANCE REQUEST REGARDING THE MINIMUM LOT DEPTH AND LOT AREA FOR LOTS.
4, 2, 9, AND 15 FOR THE PROPOSED PALOMA RANCH SUBDIVISION BEARING A LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF 33.91 ACRES OF LAND MORE THAN, MORE OR LESS OUT OF BLOCK ONE, TWO AND THREE FZ.
UH, BISHOP SUBDIVISION OF THE SOUTH HALF OF SURVEY NUMBER 41 LOCATED ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF PALOMA LANE, APPROXIMATELY 370 FEET NORTH OF GAR ROAD.
APPLICANT MOORE AND LEN SURVEYING LLC IN CARE OF UR HOMES, TEXAS, LLC PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
THIS OF DIVISION IS COMING BEFORE YOU FOR TWO REASONS.
FIRST IS THEY'RE PROPOSING TO WIDEN THE DITCH ALONG THE NORTH SIDE FOR THE, TO COMPLY WITH THE DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS.
AND A FEW OF THE LABS ON THE NORTH SIDE DON'T MEET THE, THE AREA REQUIREMENTS, UH, BY 50 TO 200 FEET.
SO THEY, THEY JUST NEED A VARIANCE ON THOSE, UH, SPECIFIC LOTS.
SO WHY THIS SUBDIVISION IS COMING BEFORE YOU FOR APPROVAL.
SO, UM, I WAS READING THROUGH THIS JAVI AND THERE WAS SOME ISSUE REGARDING, UM, THE PARK FEES THAT THEY WOULD NOT, THEY'D BE EXEMPT FROM THE PARK FEES.
THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION FOR THIS SUBDIVISION CAME IN, UH, TWO YEARS AGO AND IT WAS APPROVED, UH, BY THE CITY COMMISSION, UH, YEAH, ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
UH, BUT THEY, THIS DEVELOPER DID NOT MOVE ON THE SUBDIVISION.
UH, SO HE REDUCED THE NUMBER OF, UH, OF THE, OF THE LOTS.
HE INCREASED THE NUMBER OF LOTS, HE MADE 'EM SMALLER, BUT THE SUBDIVISION, UH, APPLICATION CAME IN TWO YEARS.
SO THE SUBDIVISION HAS BEEN IN PROCESS.
SO THEY HAVE, BUT THEY HAVE VESTED RIGHTS.
SO THE PARK FEE ORDINANCE DOES NOT, DOES NOT APPLY.
IT IS, IT IS A DIVISION THAT WE ALREADY HAD IN PROCESS.
UH, IS THAT BEFORE? BEFORE THE PARK FEE ORDINANCE.
AND THAT'S, AND THAT MAY THAT THAT'S FINE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WITH, WITH MARK, IS THAT ACCURATE? I HAD A, I HAD A QUESTION.
UM, 'CAUSE I KNOW WHEN THERE WAS, WHY DO WE HAVE THE MINIMUM 6,000 SQUARE FEET? LIKE, WHY IS THAT LIKE OUR STANDARD, THE 6,000 SQUARE FEET?
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THAT'S A DECISION THAT THE CITY FATHERS, UH, CAME UP WITH, UH, MANY YEARS AGO.UH, SOME CITIES IS 5,000, OTHER CITIES ARE, IS HALF AN ACRE.
SO IT, IT IS THE VALUE OF THE CITY.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE A SAFETY ISSUE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO, JUST THE PREFERENCE.
SOME CITIES, SOME CITIES ALLOW, UM, LIKE TINY LOTS.
LIKE IN, IN, IN SAN ANTONIO THERE'S ONE SUBDIVISION, THEY'RE LIKE TINY HOMES AND THE LOTS ARE LIKE 3000 SQUARE FEET.
SO IT DEPENDS ON THE VALUE OF THE CITY.
SOME CITIES ARE MORE RANCH STYLE AND THEY, THE, THEIR MINIMUM IS HALF ACRE.
SO IT'S THE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE, UH, THE PREROGATIVE OF THE CITY COMMISSION, UH, THAT WILL BE INCREASED OR LOWERED, UH, BY, BY THIS BOARD AS AS DESIRED.
UM, 'CAUSE I, I KNOW FOR A LOT, FOR A FEW, QUITE A FEW OF THE SUBDIVISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN GETTING APPROVED LATELY, ESPECIALLY IN MY DISTRICT, UM, I KNOW A LOT OF THE DEVELOPERS, THEY'VE BEEN ASKING FOR THAT.
'CAUSE I KNOW WE PASSED IT A WHILE BACK, LIKE ABOUT A YEAR AGO, TWO YEARS AGO, UM, WHEN THEY DID THAT, WHERE THEY CAN NOW DO THAT JOINING DITCH, ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS WIDEN IT.
AND THEN IT'S, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT IT'S, IT'S CAMERON COUNTY DRAINAGE DISTRICT NUMBER FIVE.
THAT WIDENS 'EM, RIGHT? WELL, NO.
SO HOW DO WE KNOW THAT IT ACTUALLY GETS DONE? THAT THAT'S 'CAUSE I CALLED ORLANDO AND I WAS TRYING TO FIND OUT, BUT HE WAS IN DC AND HE COULDN'T, UM, HE WAS BUSY AND HE WASN'T GET BACK TO ME.
SO HOW DO WE KNOW THAT IT ACTUALLY GETS DONE? BECAUSE I KNOW INSTEAD OF HAVING THE, 'CAUSE IF THEY DIDN'T WA IN THE DITCH, THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE DETENTION PONDS.
SO INSTEAD OF PUTTING DETENTION PONDS TO SAVE SPACE, THAT WAY THEY CAN CREATE MORE LOTS.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE WIDENING THE DITCH.
HOW DO WE VERIFY THAT IT'S ACTUALLY DONE? SO THERE'S INSPECTIONS THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
UHHUH FOR THE WATER, FOR THE SEWER, AND FOR THE DRAINAGE AND FOR THE STREETS.
SO THROUGHOUT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SUBDIVISION, THERE'S SEVERAL INSPECTORS GOING OUT THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY COMPLY WITH ALL OUR SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT.
SO, SO THERE'S, IF YOU GO TO, IN YOUR PACKET, THERE'S A LIST OF CONDITIONS.
BUT WHO, WHO DOES THE FINAL CHECK? SO ONE OF OUR GUYS DOES IT OR DO, LIKE, HOW DOES IT WORK? SO AT THE, AT THE VERY END, THE CITY ENGINEER SIGNS OFF ON THE, UH, DRAINAGE AND IN STREET INFRASTRUCTURE AND HARLINGEN WATERWORKS ARE SIGNS OFF ON THE WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO THEY HAVE TO SIGN THE MILER.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE BASICALLY SAYING, YES, THIS DIVISION WAS DONE TO ASK FOR OUR STANDARDS AND CONDITIONS.
BUT MY QUESTION IS, I GUESS I'M NOT BEING CLEAR, IS THAT, SO DO, DO WE LIKE VISUALLY SEE, OKAY, IT'S BEEN WIDENED OR DO WE TAKE THE WORD OF THE CAMERON COUNTY DRAINAGE DISTRICT? NO, WE SEE IT.
NO, THE COMMISSIONER, THE ENGINEER GOES OUT THERE TO THE SIDE AND ACTUALLY DOES AN INSPECTION.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT, BUT I WAS ASKING ORLANDO AND HE COULDN'T REALLY GIMME AN ANSWER.
JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON YOUR IDEA, UH, LUIS, YOU'RE THERE.
SO WHY DON'T YOU POP UP, POP ON UP.
DO YOU GUYS DO LIKE THE VOLUME CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE YEAH, I CAN IMPROVE IT.
BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT IT'S, NOW WE'VE EXPANDED IT TO REACH THE CAPACITY THAT IT NEEDS TO.
GOOD, GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONER LUIS VARGA, CITY ENGINEER.
UH, WE, UH, CHECK THE, THE MEASUREMENTS, RIGHT? WE CHECK THE DIMENSIONS OF THE, UH, IMPROVEMENTS, UH, THE WIDTH AND THE DEPTH.
UH, WE HAVE OUR PROJECT CONTROLS OFFICERS DO THAT DURING AND AFTER.
UH, AND THEY HAVE TO MATCH THE PLANS, APPROVED PLANS.
AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD, BECAUSE IT MIGHT GIVE, UM, THERE'LL BE A LITTLE MORE AFFORDABLE, RIGHT? THE SMALLER, YES.
I THINK BECAUSE OF THE INTEREST RATES.
THE DEVELOPER FEELS THAT THESE ARE THE LOTS THAT ARE MORE SELLABLE AT THIS TIME.
SO HE, HE LOW, HE, UH, LOWERED THE, THE, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THE LOTS FROM THE PREVIOUS APPROVAL.
I WONDER IF WE SHOULD LOOK INTO THAT ABOUT THIS SQUARE FOOTAGE.
IF IT NEED, WE CAN BE FLEXIBLE THAT WAY THEY DON'T NEED TO REQUEST A VARIANCE.
WE COULD GO TO 5,000 OR 4,500.
THAT'S, THAT'S, WE COULD DO THAT.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? MOTION.
UM, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BETIS.
YOU'VE BEEN AT THIS FOR LIKE TWO MONTHS NOW.
KEEP MAKING THE SAME MISTAKES.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE ME HERE.
I VOTE THIS AND, AND I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT CLEARER FOR WHOEVER DOES THE MINUTE.
SO I'VE BEEN TRYING TO COMMISSIONER LOPEZ TO SECOND THE, UH, THE MOTION.
[Item 10c - Consideration and possible action to approve an ordinance on second and final reading regarding water and sewer rate adjustments to provide for forecaster operating expenses, capital asset costs, and funding of Harlingen Waterworks System's Five-Year Capital Improvement Plan]
C, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE ON SECOND AND FINAL READING REGARDING WATER AND SEWER RATE ADJUSTMENTS TO PROVIDE FOR FORECASTER OPERATING EXPENSES, CAPITAL[01:25:01]
ASSET COST, AND FUNDING OF HARLINGEN WATERWORKS SYSTEM.FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
TIM SKOLAND, GENERAL MANAGER, HARLINGEN WATERWORKS SYSTEM.
COMMISSIONERS, WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS AN ORDINANCE THAT REFLECTS THE DECISIONS THAT THE CITY, THAT THE CITY COMMISSION MADE TO APPROVE A $25 DISCOUNT FOR, UH, CUSTOMERS OF HARLINGEN HOUSING AUTHORITY.
THE RATES HERE REFLECT THAT UPDATE FOR EVERYONE.
BEFORE YOU CONTINUE, UM, THE, UH, THERE WAS A HANDOUT THAT'S ON YOUR DESK, UH, THAT REFLECTS THE, UH, ADJUSTMENTS TO THE $25 CREDIT THAT WAS GIVEN.
THE ONE IN YOUR PACKET DID NOT HAVE THAT CHANGE.
UH, OUR CITY ATTORNEY GOT TOGETHER WITH THEIRS AND, AND WROTE THAT INTO THE ORDINANCE.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN HANDED OUT FOR YOU TODAY.
DO YOU HAVE THAT, TIM? I DO NOT.
IT IS UNDER 48, 97 B, UH, HAULAGE AND WATER WORK SYSTEM, LIFETIME RATE, LIFELINE RATE.
I WOULD, UM, I, I WOULD MAKE 1 1, 1 OF THE OBJECTIVES WITH THAT DISCOUNT.
IT, IT PROBABLY SHOULD BE SPLIT EVENLY BETWEEN WATER AND SEWER.
AND SO UNDER 48 97, UH, WE'RE TALKING STRICTLY ABOUT WATER.
AND UNDER 48, 180 5, WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT SEWER.
AND SO I WOULD, IT MIGHT NEED TO BE, HAVE THE SAME LANGUAGE REFLECTED IN BOTH OF THOSE.
SO THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD SQUARE IT AWAY.
SO THE, THE RATES THAT ARE INCLUDED, THEY JUST DO ACCOUNT FOR EVERYTHING.
BUT THE ADDITIONS LOOK TO ME APPROPRIATE.
WE JUST NEED TO SPLIT THOSE BETWEEN THOSE TWO DIFFERENT FUNDS.
WE CAN DO THAT BY PUTTING THAT UNDER 48 97 OR MAYBE, MAYBE AFTER 48, 180 5 AND IT, AND MOVING IT THERE AND MAKING IT APPLY TO BOTH YOU, YOU'D COPY THE SAME, THE SAME LANGUAGE.
UH, EXCEPT FOR INSTEAD OF 25, YOU'D HAVE $12 AND 50 CENTS IN EACH ONE.
SO, UM, ON B UH, SUBPARAGRAPH, UH, ONE, UH, SUBPARAGRAPH B IT'S CALLING OUT $25, UH, CREDIT.
AND SO THAT WOULD, UH, AND SO THERE'S LANGUAGE THERE IN THAT SAME PARAGRAPH THAT TALKS ABOUT WATER AND SEWER.
AND SO I THINK THIS ONE WOULD NEED TO JUST SAY WATER, BUT THAT AMOUNT WOULD BE $12 AND 56.
JUST PUT IT EVEN LEAVE BETWEEN THE TWO.
I THOUGHT BECAUSE IT SAID, UM, 25 PER, UH, UP TO THAT, IT GIVES YOU THAT FLEXIBILITY.
'CAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT THE INITIAL WILL NOT BE THAT IN THAT IT'S GONNA INCREASE OVER TIME, SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET IT AUTOMATICALLY.
THAT WOULD BE THE BETTER LANGUAGE THERE.
SO THAT WAY THEIR BILL ISN'T LESS THAN WHAT, THAT'S CORRECT.
IT WOULD BE PHASED IN OVER THE, THE FIVE YEAR PLAN.
SO WITH THAT, I, WE WOULD CERTAINLY COMMEND APPROVAL.
SO, UM, I KNOW I TALKED TO YOU AND I HADN'T HAD A CHANCE TO SEE, DID, DID THAT MAP GET TO OUR PACKETS? THE, TO THE OVERLAY OF THE DISTRICTS WITH THE, UH, IT DIDN'T GET TO YOUR PACKET.
BUT IT IS UP ON OUR WEBSITE, ON, ON THE RATES.
IT IS AN UPDATE OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
SO YOU, YOU HAVE A, A NUMBERED PROJECT AND THOSE PROJECTS ARE SHOWN ON A MAP AND THEY'RE KEYED.
AND THERE'S AN OVERLAY SHOWING THE HARLINGEN DISTRICTS.
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S APPARENT WHERE THOSE PROJECTS ARE LOCATED, IN WHICH DISTRICT THEY'RE LOCATED.
MAYOR, I THINK I CAN SEND IT OUT TO THE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS RIGHT NOW.
WELL, I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT.
I WAS, I KNOW, TIM, YOU'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD ON THIS AND THE CONSULTANT AND THE BOARD AND THE COMMISSION, BUT THAT REALLY, THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND EACH COMMISSIONER UP HERE HAS PROJECTS IN THEIR DISTRICT AND IT, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO GO AND SEE WHERE THOSE PROJECTS ARE GOING TO BE.
UH, AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE MORE, UH, OPPORTUNITIES WHERE THE CITY CAN PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION AND UPDATES AND JUST SO THAT WAY THEY CAN FOLLOW ALONG ON THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THEN, AND ALSO, IF YOU CAN JUST BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT, THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING CONSERVATION, BUT YOU DO HAVE THAT IN YOUR PLAN UNDER THE, UNDER THE 3000.
UM, CAN YOU JUST VERY BRIEFLY TALK? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
UM, ON THE, ON THE WATER RATES FOR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS, THERE ARE
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FOUR BLOCK RATES, ZERO TO 3000 GALLONS, UH, FOR INSIDE CITY CUSTOMERS WILL BE BILLED AT A DOLLAR 30 THAT'S LESS THAN THE DOLLAR 71 THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY BILLING FOR, FOR THE COMMODITY RATE.THEN THE, THE SCHEDULE, UH, FOR ANY CONSUMPTION ABOVE 3000 GALLONS, BUT LESS THAN 10 OR 10,000 TO, UH, I SHOULD SAY 3,100 GALLONS TO 10,000 GALLONS, THAT IS AT A HIGHER RATE.
UH, IF YOU ARE FROM 10,001 TO 20,000, THAT'S YET A HIGHER RATE.
AND THEN IF YOU'RE ABOVE 20,000, SO THERE'S A PRICE SIGNAL BEING SENT, THE MORE YOU CONSUME THE HIGHER RATE THAT YOU PAY INCREMENTALLY, UH, FOR THOSE MARGINAL INCREASES IN CONSUMPTION.
SO THERE IS DEFINITELY A CONSERVATION MOTIVATION THAT'S BUILT INTO THAT.
UH, THERE'S ALSO AN AFFORDABILITY COMPONENT TO THAT.
SO THE BLOCK RATE DOES ACHIEVE THOSE TWO THINGS, UM, EFFECTIVELY, AND I WOULD NOTE THAT MOST, UH, WATER UTILITIES IN THE VALLEY AND ACROSS THE NATION, UH, DO HAVE A BLOCK RATE STRUCTURE TO ACHIEVE THOSE TWO PURPOSES.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, MAYOR? I JUST SENT THE MAP TO THE, THE COMMISSION.
I, I WOULD ADD ONE THING, AND THERE IS A VERY GOOD DISTRIBUTION OF PROJECTS, UH, AMONG THE DISTRICTS.
BUT ONE THING THAT REALLY DOES HAPPEN, IF YOU ARE A SEWER CUSTOMER IN NORTH HARLINGEN, YOUR WASTEWATER IS GOING TO FLOW SOUTH INTO A DIFFERENT DISTRICT.
AND SO THERE IS A BENEFIT, EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE MAYBE A PROJECT SHOWN IN ONE DISTRICT, IT'S OF BENEFIT TO ANOTHER DISTRICT BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE SYSTEM IS CONSTRUCTED AND HOW THE FLOW HAS TO GET TO THE TREATMENT PLAN.
HEY, UH, TIM ON THIS, JUST A SEPARATE AND ASIDE ON Y'ALL'S WEBSITE, CAN YOU ADD THE, THE SLIDE WHERE IT SHOWS IN OUR DISTRICTS, ALL THE, ALL OF OUR DISTRICTS, MOSTLY OURS, UH, WHERE THOSE SEWAGE IS ABOUT TO HIT THE STREET.
REMEMBER THE ONE, THE THE RED DOT YELLOW DO MAP? YEAH.
YOU WANT, WE'LL, WE'LL FEATURE THAT IN SOME WAY.
I LOVE IT, BUT OH, NO, I, I BUT IT, IT, IT, UH, DEPICT I'M A PICTURE GUY, SO YEAH.
ABSOLUTE PICTURES EXPLAIN A LOT TO ME.
AND SO THAT ONE WAS VERY POWERFUL BECAUSE YOU HAVE THESE SQUIGGLY LINES, LIKE YEAH.
YOU MAY NOT UNDERSTAND IT, BUT HEY, THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE RED.
RED DOTS GOING AWAY MEANS A LOT.
THEN IF YOU COULD OVERLAY THE, UH, THE DISTRICT MAP ON TOP OF THAT, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE CERS WANTED.
IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, THAT WORKS.
SO THE, THE, THE ONE THAT YOU HAVE NOW WOULD REMAIN, BUT THEN WE'LL CREATE A SEPARATE MAP TO SHOW THOSE RED DOTS, YELLOW DOTS, AND THE DISTRICT BOUNDARIES SO THAT IT'S CLEAR WHERE THOSE PROBLEMS ARE HAPPENING.
JUST ADD IT ONTO WHAT YOU HAVE.
'CAUSE I THINK THAT RIGHT NOW IN THE COMMUNITY, THERE'S, THERE'S FOLKS THAT THINK, WELL, THIS, THIS ISN'T IMPACTING ME RIGHT NOW 'CAUSE I'M OKAY IN, IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
BUT THEY DON'T REALIZE WHAT YOU DO IN, IN ONE NEIGHBORHOOD AFFECTS OTHERS.
AND I THINK THEY CAN REALLY GO ONTO THIS MAP AND, AND LEARN A LOT MORE AND ON YOUR WHOLE ENTIRE PAGE DEDICATED FOR, FOR THIS INFORMATION.
SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT JUST TO BE AS, UM, TRANSPARENT AND PUTTING THAT INFORMATION OUT THERE.
I THINK YOUR MOTTO CAN BE, IT FLOWS DOWNHILL,
I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE DONE IT YET, BUT I KNOW, UM, I KNOW FORD WAS THERE.
I DUNNO IF ANYBODY ELSE WENT TO THAT WATER NIGHT THAT WE HAD YESTERDAY.
YOU GUYS, I TOLD YOU YESTERDAY, YOU GOT, YOU GUYS ALWAYS DO AN AWESOME JOB IN ORGANIZING THAT.
AND ONE THING THAT REALLY STUCK WITH ME, AND THEN MY WIFE KEPT ON TELLING ME IT WAS SO CUTE.
UM, AND I THINK, I DUNNO IF YOU'VE DONE IT ALREADY, BUT IF YOU POST IT ON, ON YOUR WEBSITE, WE WILL.
UM, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING.
'CAUSE THAT WOULD ALSO GIVE PEOPLE AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THE WATER SYSTEM WORKS AND ALL THE, THE PROCESS IT TAKES TO ACTUALLY GET TO THEIR HOMES, TO THEIR FAUCETS AND THEIR TOILETS AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF.
WE APPRECIATE THE COM, THE COMPLIMENTS AND, AND THOSE OF YOU WHO SHOWED UP AND, AND SHOWING YOUR SUPPORT FOR OUR STAFF.
OUR STAFF DID A PHENOMENAL JOB.
AND IT'S SELF-MOTIVATED IN A LOT OF WAYS.
AND, UH, THOSE WHO CAME OUT TO THE EVENT, WE HAD OVER 930, UH, FROM THE COMMUNITY WHO CAME OUT AND, UM, THEY WERE STAYING LATE TILL EIGHT O'CLOCK LONG AFTER THE EVENT WAS OFFICIALLY OVER.
SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA CONT WE'RE GONNA KEEP DOING THAT IN FUTURE YEARS.
SO SHOUT OUT TO THE HARLINGEN CONVENTION CENTER FOR HOSTING AND PROVIDING SUCH AN AMAZING FACILITY AND ALWAYS BEING AVAILABLE TO US.
WE, WE USE ONE OF OUR DAYS FOR THAT.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T APPRECIATE YOU SO MUCH ANYMORE.
I, I, I WAS AT THE AIRPORT BOARD MEETING, THAT'S WHY I WASN'T AT, AT YOUR EVENT.
BUT, UH, I'M, THEY'VE ALL BEEN FANTASTIC, SO I'M SURE THIS ONE WAS JUST AS GOOD.
IT'S GETTING AROUND, UH, AROUND THE CITY THAT THE HARING AND WATER WORKS NOT AT THE PARTY.
SO,
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AN AMAZING EVENT.SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT FOR THE COMMUNITY AGAIN.
IS THERE ANY OTHER, UM, DISCUSSION? NOPE.
SO I THINK WE HAVE TO READ THIS AGAIN, MARK.
IN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF HARLINGEN, TEXAS, AMENDING CHAPTER 18, IN CHAPTER 48, SECTIONS 48, 97 AND 48, 180 5 OF THE HARLINGEN CITY CODE IS AMENDED TO AMEND RATES FOR WATER AND SEWER SERVICE, ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING FOR PUBLICATION AND OTHER MATTERS RELATED TO THE FOREGOING.
IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE? THE MOTION TO APPROVE SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE CHANGES DISCUSSED TO THE LIFELINE.
SUBJECT TO THE CHANGES ON THE LIFELINE.
RATE YOU MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BETIS.
[Item 10d - Consideration and possible action to approve a resolution amending the Harlingen Downtown Improvement District Fund 2023-2024 Fiscal Year Budget. ]
D CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE HARLING AND DOWNTOWN IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT FUND.FISCAL YEAR BUDGET ATTACHMENT FINANCE.
ROBERT'S GONNA HANDLE THIS ITEM.
UH, THIS IS OUR FIRST BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THE DOWNTOWN, UM, DISTRICT.
UH, IT IS FOR $5,060 RESULTING FROM THE NEW OFFICE, UH, FURNITURE FOR THE NEW DOWNTOWN OFFICE.
UM, SO REVENUES WERE NOT AFFECTED.
THOSE REMAIN AT 379,050 AND EXPENDITURES ARE INCREASED TO 435,527.
UM, THIS WAS APPROVED BY THE DOWNTOWN BOARD ON APRIL 2ND, WHICH IS A TUESDAY.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
[Item 10e - Consideration and possible action to approve a request from Tony Butler Golf Course to post anotice to demolish three private cart shed bu ildings.]
CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ELECTION TO APPROVE A REQUEST FROM TONY BUTLER GOLF COURSE TO POST A NOTICE TO DEMOLISH THREE PRIVATE AND SHED BUILDINGS.SECOND MOTION APPROVED BY COMMISSIONER LOPEZ.
A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER UMES.
[Item 10f - Consideration and possible action to accept or reject bids and award a contract for the 2024 Street Improvement Program (SIP) under Bid Number 2024-06. ]
GREAT JOB, JEFFCONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ACCEPT OR REJECT OR REJECT BIDS.
AND AWARD A CONTRACT FOR THE 2024 STREET IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, SIP UNDER BID NUMBER 2024 DASH ZERO SIX.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS LOU VARGAS, CITY ENGINEER FOR THE RECORD.
UM, DECIDE AND MS TO, TO, UH, REPAIR THE LIST OF APPROVED LIST FOR THIS YEAR.
UM, WE RECEIVED FIVE BIDS, UH, IN OUR, IN THE, UH, IN THE ITEM.
UM, THE LIST OF STREETS IS SEVENTH STREET FROM EAST AUSTIN TO RIO HONDO, UH, TAFT AVENUE FROM COMMON STREET TO THIRD STREET, EMERALD LAKE FROM TREASURE HILLS TO, UH, THE END NORTH, UH, INDIANA AVENUE.
FROM FRONTAGE ROAD TO KENT STREET, UH, NEW HAMPSHIRE STREET FROM HALE DRIVE TO FRONT ROAD, NO CHITO ROAD.
FROM STEWART PLACE, UH, TO END AND PERKINS ROAD.
FROM ALTA PALAMA TO BECKHAM ROAD AND SOUTH PALM COURT.
FROM GARRETT ROAD TO THE CITY LIMITS SOUTH, UH, WE HAD A LOWEST BID OF $1,748,019 AND 22 CENTS.
UH, THE BUDGET IS ACTUALLY 1,748,000, EXCUSE ME.
OUR LOWEST BID IS $1,748,087 AND 60 CENTS.
AND THE BUDGET IS, UM, 1,748,000 WITH 19 AND 22 CENTS.
UM, THE LOWEST BIDDER IS EARTHWORKS ENTERPRISE.
UM, AND THE, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS THE SELECTION AND AWARD TO THE LOWEST BIDDER.
UM, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
HAVE THEY DONE WORK FOR THE CITY BEFORE? UM, I, I KNOW THEY'VE DONE WORK FOR TXDOT.
THEY, UH, UH, IMPROVED THE RIGHT OF WAY ON TYLER AND HARRISON.
THEY, UH, BUILT THE, UH, NEW SIDEWALKS AND, UH, WE HAVE GOOD REFERENCES FROM THEM.
IS IT A HARLEEN BUSINESS? EXCUSE ME.
IS IT A HARLEEN BUSINESS? UH, I BELIEVE THEY'RE FROM PENITAS, TEXAS.
UM, PROBABLY AN HOUR FROM HERE.
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THEY'RE LIKE FOUR SPEECH REPS.YOU EVER BEEN BENEATH US, MAN? YOU GO THE SPEED LIMIT, BABY.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
DID YOU HAVE IT CONDITIONED OR NO? UH, COMMISSIONER LOPEZ AND IS SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PETTI.
[Item 10g - Consideration and possible action to prioritize and select an outdoor recreational grant project and to approve a resolution authorizing the City Manager to submit a grant application to the Texas Parks and Wildlife's Urban Outdoor grant program.]
10 G, CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO PRIORITIZE AND SELECT AN OUTDOOR RECREATIONAL GRANT PROJECT AND TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO SUBMIT A GRANT APPLICATION TO THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE URBAN OUTDOOR GRANT PROGRAM.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR CITY COMMISSION.
UM, THIS ITEM WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, ARE REQUESTING, UM, TO SELECT, UM, A PROJECT, UM, THAT WE CAN SUBMIT FOR A GRANT THROUGH TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE.
UM, I DID COME UP WITH THREE, UM, THREE, UM, UH, POSSIBLE PROJECTS.
UH, ONE OF 'EM IS VEST, UH, ONE OF 'EM IS RANGER VILLE, AND THE OTHER ONE IS CB WOOD.
ALL THREE OF THESE PROJECTS IN OUR, ARE IN OUR MASTER PLAN.
AND SO, UH, THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE SUBMITTED, UM, ARE IDENTIFIED AS, UH, DEFICITS IN THE MASTER PLAN.
AND SO, UM, I'LL GO THROUGH THE PROJECTS, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THESE ARE JUST THREE THAT I SELECTED THERE.
THERE ARE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE COULD, UM, UH, SELECT THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
UM, BUT, UH, THESE ARE THREE THAT WE'VE, UH, WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS.
UH, IF Y'ALL RECALL, WE CREATED A MASTER PLAN FOR VESTO PARK.
UM, AND SO WE'VE, UM, THERE WAS A PLAN A AND PLAN B.
UM, SO HERE THE BASKETBALL COURTS ON, I BELIEVE THIS IS PLAN A.
PLAN B IS, WE HAD THE BASKETBALL COURTS OVER HERE ON THE, UM, ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE RESTROOMS. UM, WE HAVE A SPLASH PAD.
UH, OF COURSE, THIS IS THE TRAIL THAT WE'RE PROPOSING THAT WE'VE ALREADY APPLIED TO, UH, TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE FOR.
UM, WE WANNA BUILD A CONCESSION AND A STORAGE.
UM, AND THIS HERE, OH, UH, THIS HERE IS A, UH, PROVISION THAT WE WANNA ALSO INCLUDE IN THE GRANT APPLICATION.
UM, AND THEN WE WILL ALSO INCLUDE THE, UH, BLEACHERS.
UM, THERE'S BLEACHERS ALREADY THERE, BUT WE WANNA PUT, UH, SHADES OVER 'EM.
AND THEN WE ALSO WANT TO, UH, EXTEND THE SIDEWALK TO, UH, THOSE BLEACHER, UH, AREAS.
UH, RIGHT NOW WE ARE, UM, WE RECEIVED, WE WENT OUT FOR BID FOR, FOR THE LIGHTING OF THE THIRD FIELD.
UH, THE BID CAME IN REAL HIGH.
SO, UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, CDBG ON TRYING TO GET THAT, UM, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT ANOTHER WAY HOW TO, HOW TO, UM, GET THAT PROJECT UNDERWAY.
UH, SO I THINK WE, WE'VE, UH, FOUND A WAY.
WE GOT THREE QUOTES FROM THREE DIFFERENT, UH, COOP, COOP, UH, VENDORS.
UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE WANNA DO.
UM, WE'RE GONNA SUBMIT THIS GRANT.
THIS ONE IS, UM, IF YOU CAN READ, UH, WE WOULD BE APPLYING FOR 941,000, UH, 313, UH, DOLLARS.
AND SO THE GRANT, UH, IS FOR 750,000.
AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO MATCH, UM, 750,000.
SO, UM, I BELIEVE IT'S A 50 50.
AND SO THESE ARE, UM, SOME OF THE, THE IDEAS, OF COURSE, WE WANTED TO BUILD A PAVILION SIMILAR TO THIS, UH, THE SPLASH PAD AREA, UH, SMALL SPLASH PAD AREA ON THE, UH, IN THE PARK AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, THESE ARE THE ITEMIZED, UM, THE BREAKDOWN FOR THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS OR DIFFERENT IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE WERE PROPOSING.
UH, THE NEXT PROJECT WE HAD WAS RANGER V ROAD PARK.
UM, AND SO WE WERE, WE WERE CONSIDERING IS MAYBE BUILDING A, UH, BASEBALL FIELD AND A SOCCER FIELD.
WELL, ACTUALLY THIS IS GONNA BE A MULTIPURPOSE FIELD.
UM, SO PEOPLE CAN EITHER PLAY, UH, FOOTBALL OR SOCCER ON IT.
AND, AND THE INTENT HERE IS TO BUILD THESE FENCE 'EM.
AND THEN WE WOULD CONTROL THE USE.
THEY WOULDN'T BE RUN THROUGH A LEAGUE.
SO IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO, UM, EITHER HAVE A PICKUP GAME OR HAVE PRACTICE, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO SCHEDULE THAT AND COORDINATE THAT WITH, UM, WITH INDIVIDUALS.
UM, WE WOULD HAVE BLEACHERS, UM, ON THIS BASEBALL FIELD.
OF COURSE, THE ENTIRE AREA WOULD BE FENCED.
UM, THEY WOULD BE COVERED BLEACHERS.
WE WANTED TO ADD A BATHROOM, A RESTROOM HERE, NOT A BATHROOM,
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A RESTROOM.UH, AND THEN HERE ON THE MULTIPURPOSE FIELD IS WE WOULD ADD BLEACHERS THAT WERE COVERED.
UH, AND BOTH THESE FIELDS WOULD BE LIT.
UH, THEY WOULD HAVE SPORTS LIGHTING.
AND THEN HERE WE WOULD ADD A, UM, A BIRDING AND, AND, UH, BUTTERFLY GARDEN, UH, HABITAT AREA.
SO THIS PROJECT HERE, UM, IS 1.3 MILLION, UM, TOTAL.
SO THE NEXT PROJECT WE HAD WAS CB WOOD.
UM, ON THIS ONE HERE IS WE WANTED TO, UM, QUICK QUESTION, WHERE'S THIS LOCATED? IT'S ON TAF? YES.
UM, IT'S OFF ON HARDING OR OFF OF TAF.
YOU CAN GET TO THAT FROM THE HIKING BIKE TRAIL, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
SO THE HIKING BIKE TRAIL COMES UP HERE.
UH, SO OUR IDEA WAS TO BUILD A, A PAVILION HERE THAT OVERLOOKS THE ARROYO.
UM, A RESTROOM, ADDITIONAL PARKING, AND THEN SOME PICNIC AREAS HERE.
AND THEN ALSO A, A BIRDING AND BUTTERFLY HABITAT IN THIS AREA HERE.
WHAT IS THERE RIGHT NOW? RIGHT NOW? SO RIGHT NOW, UH, WE HAVE ABOUT EIGHT PARKING SPACES.
WE HAVE THIS, THIS ALL INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND THAT WE BUILT, UM, ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO.
UM, WE HAVE A LITTLE PICNIC PAVILION THAT'S RIGHT HERE.
THERE'S NO RESTROOMS. THERE'S NO RESTROOMS. THAT'S YOUR, THAT'S DISTRICT BOARD.
I LIKE TO, I DON'T THINK I'VE BEEN OUT TO THAT ONE.
I'VE BEEN THERE AND I DON'T, I LIKE TO THINK THEY HAVE RESTROOMS, BUT I'LL HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK.
'CAUSE THE, THE TRAIL FROM MCKELVY PARK GOES ALL THE WAY TO THAT.
AND I, I COULD HAVE SWORE THERE WAS RESTROOMS THERE.
THAT THERE ARE, THAT THERE IS.
NO, WE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY RESTROOMS. I MEAN, THIS IS CONSIDERED A, A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S FROM WALKING DISTANCE, UH, JUST LIKE HUNTER WINDSOR.
THOSE ARE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY PUT PLAYGROUNDS.
I MEAN, UH, RESTROOMS. UM, BUT AGAIN, THIS ONE DOES NOT HAVE A, UM, A RESTROOM.
WELL, YOU WOULD KNOW, RIGHT? SO, OKAY.
THAT'S YOUR, BUT, UH, THERE SOMETHING THERE THAT LOOKS LIKE IT OUGHT TO BE A BATHROOM
I THINK WHEN YOU GO AROUND THAT PAVILION, IT'S LIKE, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT THIS RIGHT HERE.
SO THAT'S, YEAH, IT'S AN EXISTING PAVILION RIGHT THERE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY NUMBERS HAVE YET ON, UM, LIKE HOW OFTEN THE PARKS ARE, ARE USED IN TERMS OF TR LIKE CAN YOU, HOW DO YOU ACCOUNT FOR THAT? WE DON'T TRACK IT.
WE, WHAT WE DO HAVE ON SOME OF OUR PLAYGROUNDS, WE HAVE A, UM, AN APP, IT'S CALLED BIBA.
AND SO THAT APP, UH, DOES TRACK PEOPLE THAT GO TO THE PARK.
UH, THE ONLY PROBLEM THERE IS THAT YOU'D HAVE TO DOWNLOAD THE APP.
YOU'D HAVE TO USE IT IN ORDER TO TRACK THOSE, THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
AND DO WE, WE DO GET REPORTS EVERY MONTH, UH, FROM ALL THE, ALL THE PARKS THAT HAVE THAT APP.
UM, AND SO WE DO LOOK AT 'EM AND THEY, UM, THEY DO SHOW, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, UH, PEAKS AND, AND VALLEYS ON THEM.
BUT, UM, AND WE CAN TRACK WHICH ONES HAVE MORE.
UH, SO THAT BE COMPLETELY ACCURATE.
BUT WHAT ABOUT, UM, 'CAUSE LIKE THINKING ABOUT VEST PARK, THAT'S LIKE RIGHT SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND, AND SO THERE'S LIKE WALKING DISTANCE.
DO WE HAVE THOSE NUMBERS TO SEE LIKE WHICH NEIGHBOR, WHICH, WHICH OF THESE PARKS WOULD SERVICE THE MOST PEOPLE IN WALKING DISTANCE? 'CAUSE THAT'S THE IDEA, RIGHT? IS TO HAVE A GREEN SPACE THAT KIDS AND FAMILIES CAN, YOU KNOW, WALK FROM THEIR, THEIR HOMES AND, AND BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, ENJOY THE PARK, THE OUTDOORS.
AND SO DO YOU HAVE THAT TO SEE WHICH ONE, OR ARE THEY EQUAL? WE DON'T.
UM, SO, AND OUR PARK MASTER PLAN, WHICH IS, UM, ABOUT 10 YEARS OLD, UM, THAT HAS SOME NUMBERS, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE OF COURSE THEY'RE OUTDATED NUMBERS.
WE'VE DONE SEVERAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PARK SINCE THEN.
UM, SO THE NUMBERS HAVE INCREASED AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE WORKING, UH, TOWARDS GETTING THAT MASTER PLAN, UH, UM, UPDATED.
AND SO, UM, WE'D BOTH OF COURSE BE ABLE TO GET, GATHER THAT INFORMATION WHEN WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS AND, AND THAT INFORMATION.
BECAUSE IT'S A TOUGH ONE THERE.
THESE ARE ALL REALLY GREAT, UM, PROJECTS.
IS VEST PARK THE ONE THAT HAS ORGANIZED SPORTS IN IT RIGHT NOW? IS IT WHAT? I'M SORRY, GABE, OF THE THREE? YES, IT'S, OH YES.
THEY HAVE THE CARDINAL BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE ADULT SOCCER LEAGUE, RIGHT? THAT PLAYS LIKE ON SUNDAYS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEN THEY HAVE THE CARDINAL, UM, FOOTBALL, LIKE THE, THE KIDS THAT
ONLY ONE CHEERLEADERS GROUP THERE.
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THERE.IT WAS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE HOW MANY KIDS, UH, I ALWAYS THOUGHT ABEL WAS EXAGGERATING, BUT IT WAS PACKED, LIKE, PACKED FULL OF KIDS.
BUT THOSE OTHER TWO ARE IN YOUR DISTRICT COMMISSIONER.
SO DO YOU, HAVE YOU BEEN OUT THERE TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN RAINVILLE OR IN UM, THIS, THIS OTHER, UH, THE CB WOODS.
RAINVILLE DOES HAVE SOME MM-HMM.
I KNOW THEY HAVE A LITTLE WALKING TRAIL, RIGHT? CORRECT.
'CAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF MY STUDENTS THAT, UM, ARE FROM THAT AREA AND THEY'RE ALWAYS, THEY'RE ALWAYS CALLING TO COMPLAINING ABOUT THE LIGHTS GOING OUT.
WE'RE STILL PLAYING BASKETBALL IN THE LIGHT SQUAD OR SOMETHING.
THEY'RE PLAYING SOMETHING, NO SOCCER OR SOMETHING.
AND THE LIGHTS GO OUT AND GO TURN THEM ON.
THEY KNOW I'M THE COMMISSIONER, SO THEY COME TO MY CLASS AND LIKE, SIR.
SO, BUT, UM, I HAD A QUESTION.
UM, I NOTICED YOU HAD VEST, YOU HAD THE CB WOOD AND YOU ALSO HAD, UM, UM, RANGER.
UM, IS THERE ANY RE IS THERE A REASON WHY LIKE, THE BIGGER PARKS WERE, WERE OMITTED? LIKE MY PARK SPORTS COMPLEX? 'CAUSE I KNOW MY PARK COULD ALSO USE SOME WORK.
'CAUSE I KNOW JUST RECENTLY I, I EMAILED YOU ABOUT SOME REGARDS THAT THE, THAT SOME MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY HAD ABOUT THE TRAIL AND ABOUT THE WAY THINGS WERE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO IS THERE ANYTHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS FOR THAT PARK THAT COULD MAYBE BE USED AS WELL? WE CERTAINLY COULD.
I MEAN, WE COULD, UM, APPLY, UH, OR, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THAT PARK AND, AND, UH, CREATE A LIST OF SOME OF THESE, THESE IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, UH, OVER AT THE SPORTS COMPLEX, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE, WE, WE'VE BEEN WANTING TO DO IS TO BUILD THOSE TWO FIELDS UP FRONT AND, AND, UH, ACTUALLY MAKE 'EM, UH, REAL TRUE FIELDS, RIGHT? SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A EP SECURITY LIGHTS THAT, THAT SHINE THE LIGHT ON THEM.
THE KIDS STILL USE THEM FOR PRACTICE.
BUT, UM, BUT YEAH, THE OTHER THING WE WANNA DO IS TO FIX THE TRAIL.
UM, WE WANNA, OF COURSE MAKE SURE ALL THE TRAIL THE LIGHTS ARE ON THE TRAIL ARE WORKING.
UM, MATTER OF FACT, WE MET WITH, UM, UM, THE, UH, GENTLEMAN FROM STREETS ON MONDAY.
UH, SO WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT ALL THOSE LIGHTS AND HAVE 'EM SURVEYED AND SEE WHICH ONES ARE OUT AND GET THOSE REPORTED.
I I, OKAY THEN I HAVE A QUESTION.
IS THIS LIKE, ARE WE ON A DEADLINE TO APPROVE THIS OR? SO THE, THE, IT OPENS MAY IN MAY.
AND THEN THE DEADLINE IS AUGUST.
SO WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE, UH, MAYBE, I GUESS TO TABLE THIS SO THAT WAY EACH OF US CAN GET MAYBE A PARK IN THEIR DISTRICT THAT WE'D WANT? SEE, BECAUSE I KNOW VESTO, I KNOW THE LAST GRANT THAT WE DID, WE GAVE TO VESTO, I THINK, AND IT WAS VICTOR AND I THINK WE GOT ONE, WE APPROVED ONE, OR WE, UH, SUBMITTED ONE FOR VESTO.
AND I KNOW YOU HAVE TWO AFFORD.
I DON'T THINK ANY, YOU KNOW, NONE OF THESE ARE NEAR DISTRICT.
I KNOW PENALTY COULD PROBABLY USE SOME HELP.
SO BEFORE YOU DO THAT, MAYBE I JUST WANNA CONFIRM WITH ANA, 'CAUSE SHE'S GONNA BE DOING THE WORK, UM, REALLY QUICK.
I THINK THAT'S IMP THAT'S A GOOD, YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
BUT I DON'T WANNA OVERBURDEN STAFF IF THEY'VE, THEY'RE READY TO GO AND, AND THEY WON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME, SO RIGHT.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LOT OF TIME.
IF YOU WANNA MAYBE FURTHER DISCUSS, THEY WILL THIS ITEM.
UM, I, I DO WANNA SAY THAT THERE'S A CRITERIA OR SCORING CRITERIA THAT IS, THAT WE KNOW ABOUT IT.
AND SO MAYBE THAT COULD BE YOUR RUBRIC.
I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU COULD SHARE THAT, UM, WITH GABE SO HE CAN, OR SEND IT TO THE COMMISSION, SO THAT WAY WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE PARKS WITHIN THEIR DISTRICTS TO SEE, WE WANNA SEE WHAT'S GONNA SCORE BEST.
I KNOW EACH COMMISSIONER HERE WANTS TO BE AN ADVOCATE FOR THEIR, THEIR COMMUNITY AND THEIR DISTRICT, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET THE GRANT.
SO, UM, AND THEN I THINK IT WOULD BE WISE FOR, UH, ON IT AND, AND JAVI TO GIVE US THEIR GUIDANCE ON WHAT YOU THINK WOULD SCORE BEST AT THE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THEY, THEY, THEY VOTE ON, ON THIS.
BECAUSE I KNOW PENDLETON ALWAYS, ALWAYS NEEDS, ALWAYS NEEDS WORK.
AND I JUST SENT YOU THAT, THAT EMAIL.
AND I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR VESTAL AND THEY NEED IT THERE IN THAT COMMUNITY.
THOSE DEFINITELY IN DISTRICT FOUR AND DISTRICT FIVE, I MEAN, WE JUST NEED MORE PARKS, UM, IN, IN THAT DISTRICT.
UM, BUT WE'RE GETTING, WE'RE GETTING THERE.
AND SO I THINK IT, I WANNA COMMEND YOU BOTH FOR BRINGING THIS TO THE COMMISSION EARLY ENOUGH WHERE THEY'RE ABLE TO, TO HAVE A REAL CONVERSATION AND DO THEIR RESEARCH.
JUST TO LIKE MENTION, RIGHT, LIKE THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS VERY SIMILAR TO US, DO A PHENOMENAL WORK, PHENOMENAL JOB OF ADVOCATING.
I KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER LUIS JUST GOT LIKE A BUNCH OF MONEY FOR ONE OF HIS PARKS.
WELL, I THINK SANTA MARIA SAW THAT, RIGHT? AND HE GOT A BUNCH OF MONEY FOR IT.
RIGHT? AND THEN I KNOW THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER JOEY LOPEZ, AGAIN, PHENOMENAL ADVOCATE, GOT A BUNCH OF MONEY, I THINK $10 MILLION FOR ONE OF HIS PARKS, UH, THERE IN OMI THAT HE'S UP AND GETTING UP AND RUNNING.
AND I KNOW GAZA,
AND I KNOW, UH, COMMISSIONER SOPHIE BEVIS DOES A LOT FOR HER THOUGH, THE COASTAL PARKS.
AND WHAT I'VE NOTICED IS, IT SEEMS, AND PLEASE VERIFY THAT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT THEY'RE HAVING TO PUT IN COMPARED TO WHAT WE'RE PUTTING IN, IS WE'RE PUTTING IN WAY MORE MONEY, RIGHT? SO FOR EXAMPLE,
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THIS ONE, IT'S ALMOST DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR, RIGHT? SEVEN.BUT IT SEEMS THAT WITH THEM, IT'S LIKE THEY'LL PUT IN $1 AND THEN THEY'LL GET LIKE $10 OUT OF IT, RIGHT? LIKE THAT'S THEIR MATCHING AND WE WANNA GET ALL OF OUR PARKS UP AND RUNNING IF THE MONEY'S OUT THERE.
I THINK MAYBE A LOOK AT OUR STRATEGY ABOUT WHO WE'RE APPLYING TO, HOW WE'RE APPLYING AND HOW BEST TO GET AS LIKE SONIC, RIGHT? WE'RE TRYING TO GET AS MANY RINGS AS POSSIBLE AS WE GET THROUGH THE COURSE.
SO, AND I, I'VE ASKED, UM, GABE TO, TO SET UP A WORKSHOP WHERE WE CAN HAVE ANA COME AND, AND, AND CHAT WITH US ABOUT THAT.
AND I THINK THAT'S, IM, THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO, TO DO BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT SHE NEEDS MORE GUIDANCE ALSO, RIGHT? ON WHAT THE COMMISSION'S VISION IS AND WHAT WE WANT AND WHAT'S OUT THERE AND WHAT'S REALLY, UH, ACCESSIBLE AND LIKELIHOOD OF BEING APPROVED.
RIGHT? SO WOULD YOU SUGGEST, MAYOR, THAT WE HAVE A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS ALL THE YES.
POSSIBLE PROJECTS IN, IN THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS? I THINK THAT WOULD BE, OH, I'M SORRY.
JUST BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY, THERE'S SO MANY PARKS AND I THINK IT'LL GIVE, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE COMMISSION TO ACTUALLY GO OUT TO THE PARKS IN YOUR DISTRICTS, UH, AND, AND LOOK AT THE ISSUES BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN GETTING A LOT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS AND TEXT MESSAGES AND SEEING PEOPLE AT HEB AND TALKING ABOUT PARKS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
AND SO WHATEVER IS IN, IN, I KNOW THEY ALL NEED, THEY ALL NEED HELP.
UM, BUT I THINK PRIORITY WOULD BE SAFETY CONCERNS, RIGHT? UH, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
AND, UM, BEING ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE IN A POSITIVE WAY, THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO AS MUCH AS I PROMOTE THE REGIONAL PARKS, THE HUBS THAT WE HAVE, I THINK ALSO THOSE SMALLER NEIGHBORHOODS PROVIDE ADDITIONAL, UM, HELP IN, IN, IN TERMS OF HAVING THE ACCESSIBILITY IN WALKING DISTANCE, THAT'S ALSO IMPORTANT.
SO HAVING THAT WORKSHOP, WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE A REAL CONVERSATION OF WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY AS A, AS A WHOLE.
AND WHAT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO KNOW IS, 'CAUSE I KNOW WE BARELY PASSED IT, UH, YOU KNOW, A WHILE, JUST A, YOU KNOW, A FEW MONTHS AGO AND STUFF, IT'S $50,000, BRO.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH MONEY.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE LIKE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE QUARTERLY UPDATES TO SEE HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE IN OUR, AND BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS, AND I KNOW, I KNOW MY DISTRICT IS THE ONE THAT'S GETTING A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE GETTING SOME MONEY IN THERE.
AND I KNOW IT'S NOT A LOT RIGHT NOW, BUT LIKE, IS THERE A CERTAIN THRESHOLD WHERE WE CAN START TOUCHING IT TO LIKE, START MAKING IMPROVEMENTS ON THE PARKS OR ANYTHING? I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO USE THAT MONEY FOR, RIGHT? TO EITHER BUY LAND AND BUILD NEW PARKS? YEAH.
OR TO IMPROVE, UH, LIKE WILSON.
WELL, THAT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU TOLD ME.
WHEN ARE WE GONNA START WORKING ON THESE PARKS? AND WE CAN HAVE TOURNAMENTS, BASEBALL TOURNAMENTS, FOOTBALL TOURNAMENTS FOR THE KIDDOS.
SO, SO INSTEAD OF THEM GOING TO MCALLEN OR BROWNSVILLE, THEY CAN COME HERE.
WELL, I THINK WE NEED TO STICK ON TO THE AGENDA ITEM, COMMISSIONER, BUT MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT DURING THE WORKSHOP.
WE'RE TALKING PARKS AND WE'RE INVESTING IN PARKS.
WE NEED YOU TO CONSIDER THAT, PLEASE.
SO VESTAL PARK HAS THE BEST IDEA OR THE BEST POSSIBILITY OF GETTING TOURNAMENTS.
YOU SEE HOW THIS IS GONNA TURN OUT?
SO I THINK WE JUST STICK TO THE AGENDA.
I KNOW, I THINK THERE IS SOME.
SHE SAT DOWN, SHE'S LIKE, GUYS GONNA TAKE WHILE.
I THINK THERE WAS A MOTION TO TABLE.
AND THAT WAS FROM COMMISSIONER TI.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MORALE.
[Item 10h - Consideration and possible action to approve an ordinance on first reading amending Chapter 36 of the Harlingen Code of Ordinances establishing prohibited activities in City Parks.]
10 H CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ELECTION TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE FROM FIRST READING, AMENDING CHAPTER 36 OF THE HARLINGEN CODE OF ORDINANCES ESTABLISHED PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES IN THE CITY PARKS.UH, THIS ORDINANCE, UM, WE CREATED ORIGINALLY BECAUSE WE WERE HAVING, UM, WE HAVE CONCERNS OF PEOPLE GOING OUT AND PLAYING, UM, MORE PARTICULARLY GOLF.
THEY'VE BEEN HITTING GOLF BALLS IN THE PARK.
UM, AND SO SINCE WE WERE BUILDING THE TRAIL AT CY HILL, WE'VE NOTICED, UM, MORE FREQUENT, MORE PEOPLE, UM, PEOPLE THAT ARE HITTING BALLS OUT THERE.
AND IT, AND IT'S A CONCERN FOR NOT JUST THE PUBLIC, BUT FOR OUR EMPLOYEES THAT ARE WORKING OUT THERE.
WE HAD EVENTS, YOU KNOW, ON SATURDAY, UH, FRIDAY, SATURDAY AND SUNDAY THIS WEEKEND AT THE TEXAS FEST.
THEY WERE OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, HITTING BALLS.
UM, AND SO ANYWAY, THAT, THAT'S WHAT WHAT, UM, UH, STIRRED UP THIS, RIGHT? AND SO WE KIND OF LOOKED AT OTHER, OTHER ORDINANCES THROUGHOUT THE STATE, UM, AND WE KIND OF PICKED AND CHOOSE SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE THOUGHT WERE, THAT WOULD PERTAIN TO US.
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ONE, OF COURSE IS, UM, DRIVING, UM, IN THE PARK, A MOTORIZED, UH, VEHICLE, UM, OR ON THE TRAILS.AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS, IS COURSE PEOPLE PLAYING GOLF, UH, OR PRACTICING GOLF IN THE PARKS.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, DAMAGING, UM, ANY OF THE PROPERTY, UM, IN THE PARKS AS WELL.
UM, CUTTING AND REMOVING ANY OF THE WOOD, TURF, GRASS, SOIL, UH, SWIMMING OR BATHING IN ANY OF THE LAKES OR PONDS.
UM, AND THEN, UM, OF COURSE, PLACE ABANDONED, UH, LEAVE GARBAGE BEHIND.
UM, PARTICIPATE IN ANY, UH, PARTICIPATE OR ENGAGE IN ANY ACTIVITY, UH, IN ANY PARK AREA WHEN, UH, SUCH ACTIVITY WOULD CREATE DANGER TO THE PUBLIC OR MAYBE CONSIDERED A PUBLIC NUISANCE, UH, CAMPING OVERNIGHT, UM, UNLESS OTHERWISE APPROVED BY THE CITY COMMISSION, UM, TO DISTURB IN ANY MANNER.
PICNIC AREA, MEETING SERVICE, CONCERT EXERCISE OR EXHIBITION, UM, IN THE PARKS, UH, TO DISTRIBUTE POST PLACE OR ERECT ANY COMMERCIAL ADVERTISING, UH, TO SELL OR OFFER FOR SALE, FOOD, DRINKS, CONFECTIONS, MERCHANDISE OR SERVICES, UH, EXCEPT PURSUANT TO THE PERMIT ISSUED BY OR PURSUANT TO WRITTEN AGREEMENT OF THE CITY, UH, PRACTICE, CARRY OR CONDUCT, UM, OR SOLICIT FOR ANY TRADE, OCCUPATION, BUSINESS PROFESSION WITHOUT PROPER PERMIT, UH, TO REMAIN STAY OR LOADER LOADER IN ANY PART BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 10 AND 6:00 AM THAT'S THE, THE, THE ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE AS FAR AS OUR CURFEW.
UH, NO PERSONS ON PARK PROPERTY SHALL EXPOSE OR OFFER FOR SALE ANY ARTICLE OF SERVICE OR THING.
NOR SHALL THEY STATION OR PLACE ANY STAND CART OR VEHICLE FOR, FOR THE TRANSPORTATION SALE OR DISPLAY OF ANY SUCH ARTICLES, UH, OR THINGS.
UH, FITNESS TRAINING IS ALLOWED ON PARK PROPERTIES, UNLESS THE FITNESS TRAINING HAS APPLIED FOR AND BEEN APPROVED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION AS AN OUTDOOR VENDOR, CONCESSIONAIRES, ACTING BY AND UNDER THE EXPRESS WRITTEN AUTHORITY AND REGULATION OF THE DIRECTOR OR ACCEPTED.
UH, THIS NEXT SECTION WE, WE INCLUDED IN HERE.
UM, AND IT WAS FROM THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD WITH THE LEAGUES, UM, WHERE WE DISCUSSED, UH, RESTRICTING, UM, GROUPS GOING OUT IN PLAYING AND IN THE PARKS WITHOUT A, WITHOUT A, UH, PERMIT OR WITHOUT A, UH, AN AGREEMENT.
AND SO THAT WAS THE REASON THAT WE PUT THIS LANGUAGE IN HERE.
UM, ONE THING THAT I ASKED MY STAFF TO DO IS TO CHECK WITH OTHER CITIES WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
UM, WE DID GET RESPONSES FROM FOUR DIFFERENT CITIES FAR DOES ALLOW FOR, UM, PEOPLE TO PLAY ON THE GREEN SPACE.
IT'S ON A FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE BASIS.
UM, THEY, THEY ALSO ALLOW THE YOUTH TEAMS TO PLAY ON, UH, OR PRACTICE ON SCHOOL FACILITIES, UH, WITH THEIR PERMISSION.
SAN JUAN, UM, ALSO ALLOWS, UH, GROUPS TO PRACTICE ON THE GREEN SPACE.
UM, AND, UH, THEY DO HAVE THE, THE CITY PROGRAMS HAVE PRECEDENTS.
AND, UM, SO IF THE CITY HAS AN EVENT, THEN THEIR, THEIR PROGRAM TAKES PRECEDENCE.
BURG IS ALSO ON A FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE BASIS.
UM, THE CITY DOES CHARGE IF THE GREEN SPACE IS AN EVENT OR THERE'S MONEY BEING MADE, UH, FROM THEIR PROGRAM.
UM, BROWNSVILLE ALSO, UM, ALLOWS, UM, INDIVIDUALS TO USE GREEN SPACE, UH, ON A FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE BASIS.
THEY DO HAVE TO GET PERMISSION FROM THE CITY.
UM, ON OURS, IT'S, IT'S MORE RESTRICTIVE.
UM, IT DOES STATE THAT THEY, THEY SHOULD NOT BE PLAYING IN THE GREEN SPACE.
UM, BECAUSE THEY EITHER, YOU KNOW, SAFETY FOR THE PUBLIC, UH, THEY CAN DAMAGE, UM, PARK FACILITIES.
AND SO WE ASK THAT THEY WOULD, UM, PRACTICE OR OPERATE IN THE, UM, AREAS THAT ARE DESIGNATED FOR THEIR, UH, FOR THEIR PRACTICE, IF IT'S THE BASEBALL THAT THEY PRACTICE IN THE BASEBALL FIELDS, UH, IF IT'S FOOTBALL THAT THEY PRACTICE IN THE FOOTBALL FIELDS AND SO ON.
UM, AND THEN THE LAST PART, OF COURSE, IS THE ENFORCEMENT PART THAT WE HAVE, UM, AS PART OF THIS ORDINANCE.
JAVIER, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
UM, I'VE BEEN TALKING TO, TO GABE AND THE CHIEF ABOUT THE TRAILS AND SECURITY AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
AND I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO POTENTIALLY DRIVE THROUGH THE
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TRAILS AND CAN WE CARVE OUT AN EXCEPTION FOR THE POLICE TO BE, BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S, YOU CAN'T DRIVE, BUT IF THEY HAVE LIKE ATVS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND OR EMS, SO, YOU KNOW, SAYING THERE'S AN EMERGENCY, I THINK WE HAVE TO ENSURE THAT OBVIOUSLY THE FIRST RESPONDERS CAN BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THEIR VEHICLES TO GET THROUGH ON THE TRAILS.AND SECONDLY, UM, IT SAYS 10:00 PM OUR TRAILS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE OUT THERE ONCE IT'S DARK OUTSIDE.
SO WOULD THERE BE A DIFFERENT TIME FOR THE TRAILS? YEAH.
SO THE TRAILS DO HAVE A SEPARATE CURFEW.
UM, SO COULD THAT BE ON HERE? WELL, IT, IT HAD, THERE'S A SEPARATE ORDINANCE FOR THAT.
AND THERE'S A SEPARATE ORDINANCE FOR, UM, ALLOWING, UH, PARK VEHICLES OR POLICE VEHICLES.
SO YOU ALREADY GOT IT COVERED, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES.
THAT'S IN, THAT'S IN A SEPARATE ORDINANCE.
UM, THIS MAY CHANGE IF WE PUT LIGHTS ON THE TRAIL.
IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S CONFLICTING THOUGH.
UM, BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF THE PARK.
AND SO WHICH ONE IS ACCURATE? RIGHT, RIGHT.
UM, SO, SO THERE IS A DIFFERENT, THERE'S AN ORDINANCE FOR HE RAMSEY, UM, WHICH ALSO IS THE SAME TIME FOR THE TRAILS.
SO HE, RAMSEY IS SUPPOSED TO CLOSE EARLIER THAN, THAN, UH, 10:00 PM AND THERE'S AN ENFORCEMENT PROVISION THERE IS.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS I SEE A LOT OF GUYS OR AND GIRLS OUT THERE AND THEY, IT SAYS HERE, LIKE, YOU CAN'T, WHERE IS IT BASICALLY YOU, YOU TO PRACTICE CARRY ON CONDUCT OR SOLICIT FOR ANY TRADE OCCUPATION, BUSINESS OR PROFESSION WITHOUT A PROPER PERMIT.
SO I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES THERE'S, UM, TRAINERS AND STUFF THAT GO OUT THERE AND DO LIKE LITTLE MINI BOOT CAMPS AND DON'T GET PERMITS FROM THE CITY.
IS THAT, WILL THEY NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT? THAT'S CORRECT.
IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE, UH, IF THEY'RE DOING IT FOR FREE, THEN IT'S OKAY.
AND UM, AND THEN OF COURSE WE HAVE OUR, OUR PROGRAMS AS WELL THAT, THAT WE HAVE AT THE PARKS.
THERE'S ALSO A SEPARATE ORDINANCE, UM, FOR THE DOG PARK.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE WERE HAVING, UH, SOME ISSUES WITH A, UH, CANINE TRAINER OUT THERE, UM, WHO ACTUALLY WAS, UM, RUNNING THE BUSINESS OUTTA THERE.
AND SO WE CREATED THIS ORDINANCE TO, TO UH, RESTRICT THAT.
SO THAT'S SEPARATE ALSO, IS 10 O'CLOCK TYPICAL AROUND THE VALLEY FOR, UM, LIKE CLOSING TIME FOR A PARK? IT SEEMS THAT SEEMS REALLY LATE.
NO, I HAVE NOT RESEARCHED THAT.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
UH, SEE WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING.
WELL, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M GETTING AT BECAUSE, UM, ESPECIALLY ON THE TRAILS, RIGHT.
AND I'LL LOOK AT THAT ORDINANCE THERE.
UM, BUT IN THE PARKS TOO, YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE CONGREGATING AT, AT NIGHT.
'CAUSE THE PARKS ARE GENERALLY FOR PEOPLE TO ENJOY WHEN THERE'S THE SUN.
MAYBE THAT HELPS WITH THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TO BE ABLE TO MONITOR AND CONTROL.
AND IT ALSO HELPS YOU GUYS GO OUT THERE AND CLEAN AND THEN YOU GET THERE IN THE MORNING AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I JUST WONDERING IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD MAYBE LOOK AT.
I THINK THE ISSUE THERE THOUGH IS YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE THE WHOLE THING LIKE FENCED OFF, RIGHT? 'CAUSE THEN IF YOU HAVE A, LIKE NECESSARILY, HUH? WHY WOULD YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT FENCED? WELL, IF PEOPLE LIKE, ALL RIGHT, SO FINE, NO ONE'S ALLOWED AT THE PARK AFTER EIGHT.
YOU CAN STILL GO ONTO THE PARK.
UNLESS YOU FENCE IT OFF, THEN YOU LIKE, THAT WOULD BE A BETTER WAY TO PROHIBIT PEOPLE THAN TO ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE POLICE OUT THERE.
WELL, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BE, UH, I THINK IT JUST GIVES THEM THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE THE, THE ORDINANCE.
'CAUSE THIS IS SAYS 10:00 PM BUT THEY ARE NOT FENCING IT IN AND IT'S 10:00 PM IT'S THE SAME, THE SAME THING.
I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTEN, THERE'S BEEN SOME INCIDENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN PARKS.
I, I GET, AND I THINK THAT FOR THE POLICE TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE VISUALLY, YOU'RE DRIVING BY, THEY CAN STOP AND SAY, HEY, WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS YOU, YOU KNOW, IT'S EIGHT O'CLOCK.
I THINK YOU THERE, THERE'S NO REASON FOR ANYBODY TO BE HERE AT THE PARK.
AND MAYBE THAT IS A DETERRENT FOR FOLKS NOT BEING IN THE PARK.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE GONNA KNOW THE RULE EXISTS.
BUT I THINK WITH TIME, PEOPLE JUST LIKE IN GOING UP BEIT, THOSE RIGHT.
PEOPLE KNOW YOU NEED TO SLOW DOWN AT SOME POINT.
I THINK THAT PEOPLE WILL UNDERSTAND THAT YOU CAN'T BE AT THE PARKS IN THOSE TIMES.
INSTEAD OF PUTTING LIKE A TIME.
CAN WE JUST PUT LIKE, YOU HAVE A HE RAMSEY SUNDOWN.
I, I, I THINK SUNDOWN THE ONLY CONCERN I'M HAVE, I'M THINKING IN MY HEAD AND I DON'T KNOW, IS LIKE, UM, PENDLETON, WHERE THEY, THEY HAVE, UH, EVENTS AND, AND THEY, THEY RENT THE SPACE.
THAT WOULD BE AN EXCEPTION, RIGHT?
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BECAUSE YOU HAVE A PERMIT AND YOU'RE HAVING AN EVENT.AND SO, UM, VICTOR, SAME, SAME VICTOR PARK, SAME THING.
YOU HAVE A POOL AT PENDLETON, SO, RIGHT.
AND SO I THINK IT'S THE PARKS THAT DON'T HAVE THESE, UH, FACILITIES THAT THE COMMUNITY IS UTILIZING WITH A PERMIT MOST OF THE TIME, UM, TO HAVE EVENTS LIKE A BIRTHDAY PARTY OR THOSE KIND OF, THAT WILL POTENTIALLY GO AFTER SUNDOWN.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I DO THINK, I MEAN, WHY WOULD YOU, WHY WOULD YOU WANT ANYONE IN THE PARKS AFTER SUNDOWN MAYOR, WE CAN CHECK TO SEE WHAT OTHER CITIES DO AND HAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR THE SECOND READING.
OR HARLINGEN CAN JUST BE THE ONE TO ENSURE THAT THEY CARE ABOUT SAFETY
WE, WE'VE BEEN A CITY OF FIRSTS.
WE GOT THE, A LOT OF FIRSTS HERE IN TOWN, SO.
I'M JUST SAYING, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A LOT OF CONCERN FROM THE COMMUNITY WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, CRIME AND ISSUES THAT HAPPEN AT OUR PUBLIC PARKS.
AND THEY'RE DESIGNED FOR ONE PURPOSE.
AND THAT IS FOR THE COMMUNITY TO ENJOY, UH, TO BE HEALTHIER, TO HAVE A, A GREEN SPACE.
AND IT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER ALSO FOR STAFF TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE, UH, KEEPING THEM CLEAN AND, AND BE LESS WORK ALSO ON, ON Y'S PARK.
WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THE HOME VISIT AT SLEEP IN PARKS? WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO SEND THEM TO? LIKE, AT THE LIEUTENANT, UH, LIEUTENANT REZ PARK, THE PLATA.
WELL YOU, WHAT WHAT WE GENERALLY DO IS WE'LL CALL PD AND THEY'LL GO OUT THERE AND, YOU KNOW, EITHER ASK 'EM TO LEAVE IF IT'S AFTER, AFTER HOURS.
UM, BUT, UM, VERY DIFFICULT TO HAVE THEM MOVE ON.
UM, 'CAUSE THE, YOU KNOW, LIKE
UM, BECAUSE THE HOMELESS PEOPLE SLEEP THERE.
UM, AND SO, SO WE'VE, WHENEVER WE GO OUT THERE IN THE MORNING, THEY LEFT THEIR STUFF BEHIND.
WE PICK IT UP, WE THROW IT AWAY.
UM, AND SO, BUT IF THE HOMELESS PEOPLE GIVE US, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, I DON'T WANNA SAY A HASSLE RIDE, BUT IF THEY, UM, IF THEY GET AGGRESSIVE, THEN WE CALL PD AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL GET INVOLVED.
THEY SHOULDN'T BE SLEEPING THERE AT NIGHT THOUGH.
ISN'T THAT AGAINST YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S ALREADY ON THE BOOKS.
AND A LOT OF 'EM, WHEN PD GOES BY, THEY DON'T WANNA GO TO LOAVES AND FISHES.
WELL, I THINK THAT'S A BIGGER PROBLEM.
AND I THINK I'VE RAISED THIS BEFORE THAT THERE, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO FOCUS OUR ENERGIES ON PROVIDING RESOURCES FOR THE HOMELESS TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT OF THOSE SITUATIONS.
BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE, THE, THE COMMUNITY PARKS ARE NOT THE PURPOSE OF THE COMMUNITY.
PARKS ARE NOT FOR HOMELESS PEOPLE TO SLEEP IN THOSE PARKS.
MAY, MAY WE VOTE ON THIS ISSUE.
WAIT, SO DOES JAVIER'S FOR US.
SO WHAT, SO ARE WE, WHAT ARE WE PROPOSING A TIME? OR WHAT ARE WE DOING? THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT MY QUESTION.
SO WE'RE NOT PROPOSING A TIME RIGHT NOW.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SUNDOWN OR WHATEVER THE, WHATEVER PARK'S RECOMMENDATION IS.
I I I MEAN Y'ALL ARE THE ONES THAT ARE OUT THERE DOING THE, DOING THE WORK.
UM, I JUST DON'T SEE ANY PURPOSE FOR ANYONE RIGHT NOW.
IF, IF IT GOES AS THIS COMMISSIONER MORALE IS AT 10:00 PM THEN, THEN THEY WOULDN'T BE SLEEPING IN THE PARK AFTER 10:00 PM BUT ISN'T THERE ALREADY AN ORDINANCE? MM-HMM.
SO I THINK THAT'S KIND OF DUPLICATING WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
BUT I THINK, UM, SUNSET IS, OR SUNDOWN
YEAH, BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AROUND 'CAUSE I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT LIKE WHEN SUNSET BEGINS AND LIKE DURING THE SUMMER AND ALL THAT CHANGES YEAH.
AND THEN THE LATEST TIMES THAT I'M SEEING IS LIKE AROUND 8 30, 8 27.
THAT'S LIKE IN JUNE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO I MEAN, 10 I THINK IS A LITTLE BIT TOO LATE TO BE HONEST.
BUT LIKE NINE O'CLOCK MAYBE IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE REASONABLE.
'CAUSE LIKE, IT, IT ALL DEPENDS WHETHER A PARK IS LIT OR NOT.
SO GOING TO A, A COUPLE OF POINTS ON NUMBER ONE, I KNOW THAT I, SPECIFICALLY ON MY PARK, I DO HAVE A GUY THAT, UH, HE RENTS VEST PARK FOR FOOTBALL AND AT TIMES HE HAS TO TAKE HIS TRAILER UP THERE INTO THE PARK, DRIVE HIS TRUCK AND TRAILER IN THERE SO THAT THEY CAN UNLOAD ALL THE FOOTBALL PADS AND ALL THAT.
SO I'D ASK THAT WE INCLUDE AN EXCEPTION THERE.
IF YOU HAVE A IF CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OR A PERMIT SO THAT, THAT GUY THAT UNTIL WE BUILD HIM THE, OR BUILD, NOT FOR HIM, BUT FOR COMMUNITY, THE STORAGE AREA, I THINK WE SHOULD ALLOW THAT EXCEPTION IN THERE.
I HAVE A COUPLE NOTES ON, I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO STRIKE 3, 6, 7, 8, AND NINE.
THAT'S ENTIRETY IN THEIR ENTIRETY BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE LAWS FOR THAT.
LIKE EVEN GOING TO FRANK'S, UH, POINT, THEY JUST PASSED A LAW RECENTLY ABOUT CAMPING.
THE STATE DID, ABOUT YOU CAN'T CAMP.
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THINK SHOULD ALL BE STRUCK.MARK THAT LAST SENTENCE, NUMBER 10, NO POLITICAL EVENT, DISTRIBUTION OF HAND BILLS, UH, POLITICKING SHALL BE ALLOWED DURING A CITY EVENT OR CO-SPONSORED EVENT.
I JUST HAD LIKE A FIRST AMENDMENT CONCERN.
THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME THAT NEEDS TO BE TIGHTENED UP.
AND SO IF WE CAN TIGHTEN THAT ONE UP ON 10.
AND THEN DON'T WE ALREADY HAVE THAT ALSO? CITY, CITY EVENTS? NO, NO.
IT, IT'S A POLICY THAT WE DON'T ALLOW POLITICKING, BUT THERE'S NOTHING IN WRITING.
SO WE THOUGHT WE'D PUT IT IN THERE.
WELL, AND THE PROBLEM IS A PARK IS A PUBLIC FORUM.
SO WE, WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.
BUT, BUT THIS IS ONLY FOR A CITY SPONSORED EVENT WHERE WE'RE HAVING SOME SORT OF EVENT, UM, DIS ORDINANCES FOR PARKS.
BUT THEY'RE NORMALLY ON CITY PARKS DURING ANY CITY EVENT.
IF WE HAVE A FREEDOM FEST AND SOMEONE WANTS TO CAMPAIGN HYPOTHETICALLY, RIGHT.
WE DON'T ALLOW, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN BARK.
THAT'S A QUESTION FOR MARK TO LOOK AT.
IF WE HAVE FREEDOM FAST OR RIO FAST OR, UH, WHATEVER.
CAN YOU BAR PEOPLE FROM POLITICKING? IT'S TIME, PLACE, AND MANNER RESTRICTIONS PROBABLY.
SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE AN ABSOLUTE SEE AND MOST PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY RENT THE PARK OR POLITICAL EVENT AND THEY CAN DO THAT AND HAVE, BUT IF THEY RENT IT, WE JUST DON'T LET THEM COME IN WHEN WE HAVE AN EVENT AND START HANDING OUT PEOPLE AND, 'CAUSE WE DON'T WANT THEM TO BE BOTHERED BY THOSE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES AT A SOCIAL EVENT WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO LISTEN TO MUSIC OR I, I KNOW, BUT THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS YOU CAN DO THAT, RIGHT? YOU CAN CREATE A BOOTH, YOU CAN CREATE AN AREA WHERE THEY CAN DO IT AS OPPOSED TO JUST AN ABSOLUTE BAR.
THAT'S WHY WHEN THE SUPREME COURT TALKS ABOUT TIME, PLACE, AND MANNER, THAT'S WHAT THEY MEAN BY THAT.
ALRIGHT, WELL I THINK, UM, IT'S JUST FOR LEGAL ORDER.
WHATEVER THE STATE, WHATEVER THE STATE ALLOWS, THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD ADOPT.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE STRIKING OUT OF THE LANGUAGE JUST BECAUSE THE STATE TAKES CARE OF IT.
BECAUSE AN ORDINANCE, THIS IS WHERE THE CITY, OUR, OUR, UM, THE RESIDENTS OF HAR CHEN ARE GONNA GO TO THE ORDINANCE AND LOOK, THEY'RE NOT GONNA GO TO THE STATES.
OR I WANNA SEE SOMEONE WHO'S LIKE, GOES TO THE ORDINANCE.
USUALLY THEY LIKE GOOGLE, HEY, CAN I LIKE GLITTER AT A PARK? YOU'RE SOMEBODY'S FACEBOOK.
LIKE, WHO GOES TO ORDINANCES? LIKE I WOULD SAY THAT YOU THIS, IT'LL BE ON NEXT DOOR SAYING CAN WITHIN THE CITY.
YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
THEY'RE GONNA GO ON NEXT DOOR, FACEBOOK, CAN I DO THIS? CAN I DO THIS? AND YOU'LL GET 5,000 DIFFERENT OPINIONS AND
THAT'S, AND THEN YOU COULD SAY, BECAUSE THEY'RE NONE OF THEM BASED ON THAT, THE ORDINANCE, UH, SAYS X, Y, AND Z.
AND I, I MEAN THEY, THEY, THEY'VE PREPARED THIS AND, AND HAVE GIVEN IT A LOT OF THOUGHT.
I THINK IT'S, IT, I I DON'T, I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM IT BEING IN THERE IF IT'S JUST MIRRORING WHAT THE STATE, UH, REQUIRES.
ANYHOW, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
THAT IT'S NOT NECESSARY, BUT IT DOESN'T HURT TO HAVE IT IN THERE EITHER, AS LONG AS IT'S THE SAME LANGUAGE.
AND I DON'T EVEN THINK IT IS THE SAME LANGUAGE.
RIGHT, BECAUSE THAT, WELL, I MEAN, YOU COULD CONDITION ON AND MAKING SURE THAT, THAT IT IS, AND IT'S NOT MORE RESTRICTIVE BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO THAT.
SO YOU'RE SAYING WE'RE JUST GONNA COPY AND PASTE THE STATUTE FOR LITTERING AND THEN JUST PUT IT IN HERE, COPY AND PASTE THE STATUTE FOR, THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU WOULD GET IT TO BE IDENTICAL AND NOT BE STRICTER.
WELL, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IDENTICAL, BUT IT HAS TO SERVE THE SAME, SAME PURPOSE.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING WHY BE REPETITIVE AND REDUNDANT WHETHER THE STATUTE ALREADY COVERS IT AND YOU JUST GO THERE.
IN THAT CASE THEN WE WOULD STRIP A LOT OF ORDINANCES THAT ARE ALL THAT THE STATE REQUIRES TO DO.
AND WE WOULD HAVE NO ORDINANCES BECAUSE THE STATE IS ALREADY TAKING CARE OF IT.
BUT I THINK THAT THE ORDINANCES PER CITY, IT, IT ALSO, IT IT ALSO SHOWS THAT, UM, WE ARE ADOPTING SOMETHING THAT WE THINK IS BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
AND IT'S JUST MORE CONCISE PROVIDING ALL.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS JUST LIKE PUT OUT SOMETHING THAT'S ASPIRATIONAL, RIGHT? LIKE NO, THIS IS OUR MORALS AND OUR OUR NO, I JUST SAY, I, I WOULD STRIKE, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO.
I WOULD STRIKE THOSE SIX ORDINANCES, MAKE THE, UH, AMENDMENT TO NUMBER ONE, NUMBER 10.
AND EVERYTHING ELSE I THINK LOOKS FANTASTIC.
SO, SO I'M KIND OF CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE HERE BETWEEN THE BOTH OF YOU
I, I DON'T, I I MEAN YOU CAN, OBVIOUSLY YOU ALL CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT, BUT IT DOESN'T, IT JUST THAT I DON'T THINK, I THINK THAT'S A SILLY ARGUMENT TO SAY, WELL, THE STATE IS ALREADY TAKING CARE OF IT.
THE STATE DOES A LOT OF THINGS AND THE CITY HAS OTHER ORDINANCES THAT HAVE THE SAME LANGUAGE.
I I, I THINK LIKE, AT LEAST FOR ME, I THINK I, I DON'T HAVE A, I MEAN, I DON'T SEE THE, THE, THE PROBLEM WITH HAVING IT, AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I DO TELL SOME OF MY, MY CONSTITUENTS, THEY REACH OUT TO ME AND I, THEY TELL 'EM WHAT, I LOOK AT THE ORDINANCES AND I TELL 'EM, JUST GOOGLE HARING CODE OF ORDINANCES AND LOOK IT UP AND YOU CAN DO A SEARCH FOR IT.
AND I THINK THAT'S A LOT EASIER THAN HAVING TO NAVIGATE THROUGH ALL THE STATE STATUTE.
I'VE NEVER DONE THAT TO MYSELF.
SO I'M ASSUMING, 'CAUSE THERE'S SO MANY OF THEM THAT THEY WERE, UH, UM, THEY DID A LOT MORE DIFFICULT TO NAVIGATE THAN HERE BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN THEY, YOU KNOW, GET CHALLENGED THAT, HEY, YOU CAN'T DO THIS, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
THEY WANT TO SEE IN THE, THEY WANT TO SEE IT IN WRITING.
UM, AND THEN I THINK THIS GIVES 'EM AN EASY WAY WHERE YOU CAN EVEN LITERALLY
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JUST BUST IT UP ON YOUR PHONE.BUT YOU CAN BE LIKE, HERE YOU GO.
AND, AND PEOPLE DO, I MEAN, THERE ARE RESIDENTS THAT SEND ME ORDINANCES AND REFER TO THE ORDINANCE WHEN THEY DON'T AGREE WITH THINGS A LOT OF THE TIME.
AND I HAVE YET TO HAVE SOMEBODY OTHER THAN A LAWYER TELL ME, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE STATE STATUTE ON SOMETHING.
I, I JUST DON'T, THE AVERAGE CITIZEN, I DON'T THINK, I THINK THEY DO FOCUS ON THE ORDINANCES.
AND THEN WHEN WE MAKE DECISIONS AND THEY FEEL THAT IT IS NOT COMPLIANT WITH THE ORDINANCE, THEY REFER TO THE ORDINANCE.
I THINK IT'S A LITTLE NITPICKY, BUT I DON'T THINK IT, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S YOUR DECISION.
IF I MAY MAYOR, YOU KNOW, RESPOND TO, TO COMMISSIONER LOPEZ'S COMMENT RIGHT ABOUT NUMBER ONE.
UM, I THINK THAT, UM, ESPECIALLY IF WE GET A TRAIL RIGHT, IT'S GONNA BE, THERE'S A SAFETY ISSUE THERE.
UM, THERE HAS BEEN CALLS I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET AS, UH, A REPORT FROM PD AS FAR AS HOW MANY CALLS THEY'VE RECEIVED, UM, ABOUT ABEL DRIVING THE VEHICLE OUT THERE.
UM, IT ALSO PROTECTS OUR PROPERTY.
I MEAN KEEPING THEM FROM DRIVING ON THE PARK.
UM, BUT I MEAN, IT'S YOU ALL PREROGATIVE, RIGHT? IF WE WANT TO KEEP IT, I MEAN, UH, KEEP THE, UH, REVISION.
I THINK THE WAY THAT YOU PRESENTED IT IS, IS FINE IF YOU ARE TRYING TO KEEP THE INTEGRITY OF THE, OF THE FIELD.
BUT I THINK THAT IF THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO GET, IT'S, THAT'S A HARD ONE.
'CAUSE IT'S A 14 FOOT TRAILER, LIKE YEAH.
LIKE I CAN'T IMAGINE GETTING THERE, HAVING WHATEVER YOU HAVE ALL YOUR KIDS HAVE TO UNPACK AND THEN LOAD IT ALL UP.
I THINK YOU HAVE, I DON'T CARE IF YOU PUT A DESIGNATED AREA FOR IT, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
BUT I THINK, YEAH, IT'S A TOUGH ONE.
ABEL DOES A A LOT IN THAT COMMUNITY.
AND WE NEED TO BEND THE RULES.
IF YOU'VE BEEN THERE FOR A LOT OF TIME, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT BENDING THE RULES, BUT WE'RE CREATING THE RULES HERE.
UM, BUT THE, THE, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN THERE, LIKE DANIEL HAS, AND I'VE SEEN IT, THERE'S A LOT OF KIDDOS AND A LOT OF PARENTS.
NO, I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU.
I'M SAYING THAT THERE, SO THEY'LL GRAB SOME GEAR.
THERE IS A, THAT WOULD BE NICE.
THERE IS AN ISSUE BECAUSE OF THE DRIVING ON THE FIELDS, RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, TO YOUR POINT, COMMISSIONER, YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S A LOT OF KIDS THERE, RIGHT? SO IF HIM DRIVING BACK AND FORTH, THAT JUST CREATES MORE OF A SAFETY ISSUE.
SIR, SIR, YOU HAVE TO BE OUT THERE AND SEE WHAT HE DOES.
HE'S NOT DRIVING ON THE FIELDS.
HE DOES NOT DRIVE ON THE FIELDS.
IN FACT, HE'S BEEN LOCKED OUT OF THAT PARK MANY A TIMES.
I'VE GOTTEN CALLS AND I MADE CALLS TO YOU AND I MADE CALLS TO, UH, ONE OF YOU GUYS AND GABE.
ALRIGHT? HE'S NOT OUT THERE DRIVING THE FIELDS.
HE USES THAT TRAILER TO CARRY HIS EQUIPMENT.
AND HE'S BEEN CALLING THE CARPET FOR USING THAT TRAILER TO SIGN UP KIDS BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S OUT THERE POINTING FINGERS THAT HE'S OUT THERE SELLING, YOU KNOW, HIS, HIS, HIS, HIS, HIS HAMBURGERS AND HOT DOGS, WHATEVER HE SELLS.
OKAY? SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, YES, I AGREE WITH YOU DANIEL.
WE NEED TO WORK SOMETHING OUT HERE.
BUT IF WE MAKE AN EX, AGAIN, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, HE DOES A LOT.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE MAKE AN EXCEPTION FOR HIM.
ARE WE GONNA MAKE EXCEPTIONS FOR EVERYBODY ELSE? KINDA LIKE FORD SAID WITH THE CAR WASH.
IF YOU, IF HE, IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL THAT DOES HIS TYPE OF WORK AT SOMEWHERE ELSE, IT'S A NO-BRAINER.
SO YOU'RE SAYING WE SHOULD BEND THE RULES SOMETIMES WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS INDIVIDUAL WHO'S BEEN DOING A HECK OF A JOB WITH THE KIDDOS AND HE'S THE ONE WHO WE HAVE A TOURNAMENT.
HE'S THE ONE WHO'S GONNA GET ALL OF THESE KIDDOS AND DIFFERENT TEAMS FROM UPPER VALLEY AND, AND AND BROWNSVILLE TO, TO COME OUT HERE.
HE HAS BEEN APPROACHED, IF YOU STOP AND THINK ABOUT IT, COMMON SENSE PEOPLE FROM SANTO BROWNSVILLE, HARTON WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE MCALLEN MISSION FOR TOURNAMENTS IN BURG.
THOSE GUYS WILL HAVE TO GO TO BROWNVILLE FOR TOURNAMENTS.
THIS IS RIGHT SMACK IN THE MIDDLE.
WE'RE NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
YOU NEED TO SEE THE TYPE OF WORK HE DOES.
AND ONCE YOU SEE THAT, YOU MAYBE YOU'LL START THINKING TWICE ABOUT WHAT HE DOES FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
WELL, I THINK LET'S, I DON'T THINK, UM, JAVIER IS DISAGREEING WITH YOU IN ANY WAY AND UNDERSTANDS THE IMPACT AND ALL THE BENEFITS TO THE KIDS IN, IN THAT DISTRICT.
AND SO I THINK THAT THE, THE BIGGER QUESTION HERE IS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT THIS TO CONTINUE
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TO HAPPEN.I DO THINK THERE ARE CONCERNS THAT DRIVING AND THERE'S KIDS, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY WALKING AROUND AND THE MOMENT SOMEONE GETS HURT, THE LIABILITY.
'CAUSE YOU HAD THAT EXCEPTION CARVED IN.
SO I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A SOLUTION IN TERMS OF WE NEED TO HAVE A DESIGN DESIGNATED SPACE THAT IS SET FOR THAT AT LEAST TEMPORARILY.
SO THAT WAY IT IS KIND OF BLOCKED OFF.
AND THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT IS BECAUSE THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE.
UM, AND, AND THAT'S A TEMPORARY SOLUTION.
AND WE'LL FIND A WAY AND TO WORK WITH, WITH, UM, JAVIER TO HAVE A REAL SOLUTION IN TERMS OF HAVING A SPACE THAT IS IN THE INTERIM.
COULD WE ASK MAYBE OSCAR TO HAVE SOMEBODY FROM PUBLIC WORKS GO OUT AND MAYBE DETERMINE YEAH.
THE BEST ROUTE IN THE LOCATION AND KIND OF GO OVER THERE.
CAN WE PULL UP, WATCH IF WE PULL UP REAL QUICK, HAVE YOU, IF YOU GO BACK TO YOUR VEST PARK THING AND IF WE COULD DO WHATEVER SOLUTION UNTIL WE GET THE CONCESSION STAMP BUILT, THEN CORRECT.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING IT, IT, IT'S A TEMPORARY FIX, BUT IT'S ISOLATE IT.
I THINK YOU HAD A, YOU, YOU, YOU ALLUDED TO THAT A LITTLE BIT AND SO THAT WAY THERE IS NOT THAT CONCERN AND IT'S NOT JUST SAYING YES, YOU CAN, UH, AND, AND GIVING HIM FREE REIGN OF, OF THE, BECAUSE THEN HE'D HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
AND SO IF YOU HAVE A SMALL SPOT WHERE IT'S, UH, ACCESSIBLE AND IT'S NOT SO BURDENSOME FOR THEM TO, I I AGREE.
CARRYING ALL THAT IS NOT NECESSARY.
PICK WHERE WE ANTICIPATE PUTTING A ROAD OR SOMETHING.
AND WHAT SIZE, UH, STORAGE IS THE, IS HE A REQUESTING THE SIZE STORAGE? I FORGET YOU NOT WHAT HE CARRIES RIGHT NOW IS THAT IT'S A 14.
WELL, WHAT, WHAT WE CAN DO COMMISSIONER AS WELL IS COME BACK WITH A COST TESTIMATE ON WHAT IT WOULD TAKE FOR US TO, WE CAN GET A PRE A PREFAB THE BUILDING.
WE CAN POUR THE SLAB THAT OURSELVES JUST BUY THE PREFAB BUILDING AND WE JUST ASSEMBLED IT.
WELL, I, OKAY, SO ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT YOU WOULD HOLD PRIVATE LEAGUES THAT'S BETWEEN, THAT'S BETWEEN THEM? YEAH.
I THINK THAT THAT'S A, A WHOLE OTHER, UM, THAT'S, I THINK HAVING ACCESS IS IMPORTANT.
THAT'S BEEN THE SOLUTION IN THE PAST THAT HAS BEEN REFERENCED TO ME IS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE, AND WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION, IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE A
AND THEN THE OTHER PART WOULD BE STORAGE, CORRECT? MM-HMM.
AND SO THAT WHATEVER LEAGUE RENTS OUT THAT T UH, UH, FACILITY COULD HAVE ACCESS TO THAT STORAGE.
AND THERE'D BE A WAIVER SAYING THAT THE, ALL THAT STUFF.
WELL, I'M JUST, BUT YEAH, THE, WHERE HE PARKED, JUST SO WE SEE IT'S, IT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.
SO, SO HE COMES ALL THE WAY ACROSS OVER HERE AND PARKS HIS TRUCK IN THIS FIELD WHEN I WAS THERE.
HE COMES, HE COMES THROUGH THIS GATE, WHICH HE SAID IT WAS FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES ONLY.
HE DRIVES ACROSS AND THEN PARKS HIS VEHICLE HERE AND LOADS NOW WHERE AT LEAST, AGAIN, THE ONE TIME I WENT OUT THERE, IT WAS OFF ALL THREE FIELDS COMPLETELY.
WHERE THOSE FEATURES APPARENTLY ARE.
WHERE WAS IT? WHERE YOU, WHEN YOU AND FRANK, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU.
I'VE SEEN IT PARKED RIGHT WHERE YOU HAVE THOSE LOOKS, THOSE, UH, BLUE LOOKS LIKE HS.
THERE NEXT TO THE PARKING LOT.
I THINK SOLUTION IS JUST A DESIGNATED AREA THAT IS YEAH.
I, I I A SPACE THAT IS NEAR THAT AREA WHERE IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE THAT IT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED AND THAT THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY DRIVING ONTO THE FIELDS PERIOD.
I THINK THAT THAT SERVES A PURPOSE.
WE DON'T DISTURB THE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THEM TO CONTINUE DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
HE IS NOT HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IS THAT, UM, THAT'S YOUR DISTRICT? IS THAT A GOOD COMPROMISE? YEAH.
WELL, WE STILL HAVE THE ISSUE ABOUT NUMBER 10, THE POLITICAL SPEECH.
AND I THINK A SOLUTION TO THAT COULD BE A DESIGNATED AREA LIKE YOU HAVE IN THE AIRPORT, YOU HAVE A TABLE SET UP.
PEOPLE AREN'T FREE TO GO EVERYWHERE, BUT YOU DO HAVE A DESIGNATED AREA FOR THAT TO TAKE PLACE.
I THINK THAT'S THE OTHER DEFINITION IS RIGHT, LIKE DEFINE POLITICKING, RIGHT? SO IF I'M WEARING MY SHIRT THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, UH, AL GORE AND WHOEVER RAN WITH THEM, RIGHT? OR WHOEVER THE CAMPAIGN, IF THEY'RE CAMPAIGNING ACTIVELY BERMAN, IF THEY'RE WEARING THEIR SHIRT, DOES THAT CAMP AS, UH, POLITICKING OR IS IT ONLY WHEN THEY'RE HANDING OUT THESE, UH, THE PUSH CARDS OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT? I'VE GOTTEN SOME EMAILS, AND I THINK I'VE FORWARDED THEM TO GABE ON DOWNTOWN AND SUNDOWN WHERE PEOPLE ARE UPSET THAT THEY HAVE SET UP AN ACTUAL BOOTH AND ARE, ARE GIVING OUT SIGNS, UM, FOR THEIR CAMPAIGN AND HAVE SIGNS AND SHIRTS AND GETTING PEOPLE'S INFORMATION.
I THINK THAT, UH, THAT IS THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE GOT.
AND I WILL SAY IT'S FROM BOTH,
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BOTH, BOTH SIDES, RIGHT? AND SO IT'S NOT ONE PERSON DOING IT.AND, UH, WHEN I'VE TALKED TO GABE ABOUT IT, IT'S BEEN CITY SPONSORED EVENTS.
YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT.
SO, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE.
I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO VIOLATE ANY, UM, YOU KNOW, FREEDOM OF, OF, THAT'S WHY WE PUT, USUALLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE REASON YOU CAN'T DO THAT, AND LIKE YOU, YOU CAN HAVE RULES AGAINST SIGNS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN A MEETING.
SO, SO THE QUESTION IS WHAT DISRUPTION IS THERE? AND, AND MAYBE, MAYBE SOME OF THESE EVENTS WHERE YOU'VE GOT ALL SORTS OF COMMERCIAL VENDORS SELLING THINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
IT'S NOT REALLY A DISRUPTION ISSUE.
UH, WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE, BUT, AND I THINK YOU COULD SATISFY THOSE FIRST AMENDMENT CONCERNS BY HAVING A DESIGNATED AREA, LIKE A TABLE, LIKE THEY HAVE IN AN AIRPORT WHERE THEY SAY, OKAY, YOU CAN, YOU CAN TALK, BUT YOU HAVE TO STAY OVER THERE AND YOU CAN'T BE BOTHERING PEOPLE ALL OVER THE PLACE AND, RIGHT.
I MEAN, SO I, I THINK WE COULD ACCOMPLISH BOTH OBJECTIVES OF THE CITY NOT HAVING PEOPLE INTERFERING IN THE EVENT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME PROTECT PEOPLE'S RIGHTS UNDER THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO USE A PUBLIC PARK AS A FORUM.
'CAUSE HONESTLY, I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WHEN PEOPLE, LIKE, I KNOW IN THE MARKET DAYS, WHEN YOU GO TO ACROSS THE, THE TRAIN TRACKS, THERE'S USUALLY A GROUP THERE THAT HAS THEIR OWN LITTLE SPOT THERE.
AND I SEE IT, AND HONESTLY I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH IT.
THEY'RE THERE, BUT IT'S, YEAH.
THE CITY MANAGER CAN DESIGNATE A SPECIFIC AREA AND SAY, YOU GOTTA STAY HERE.
I, I HONESTLY DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH THEM DOING WHAT THEY WANNA DO.
I MEAN, IT'S LIKE, LIKE FRANK, I MEAN, MIKE ALWAYS SAID IT'S A FREE COUNTRY, SO THEY CAN DO BASICALLY WITH ALL, I DON'T SEE THEM DISTURBING.
THEY, THEY'RE NOT LIKE, IT'D BE ONE THING IF THEY WERE LIKE, HEY, HEY, HEY, THEY DON'T DO THAT.
THEY'RE JUST THERE, YOU KNOW, SHOWING THEIR STUFF.
SO THEN IT IS TO DESIGNATE A SPOT.
BUT THEN WHAT ABOUT THE, THE CONCERN THAT DANIEL RAISED? YOU KNOW WHICH ONE WHEN YOUR, THE REDUNDANCY? YEAH, THAT NUMBER ONE.
AND NUMBER TWO, IF YOU'RE WALKING DOWN WEARING YOUR SHIRT, IS THAT, YOU KNOW YEAH.
IF I'M WEARING MY, YOU KNOW, UH, TRUMP OR BIDEN SHIRT, RIGHT.
WALKING DOWN, UH, I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THERE'S AN EXPRESSION OF FIRST AMENDMENT.
IT'S NOT A SOLICITATION, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND SO THIS IS FOR ACTUAL PEOPLE THAT ARE CAMPAIGNING AND GIVING OUT.
MAYBE THAT IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO IDENTIFY.
YOU IDENTIFY IT BY PROVIDING, UM, I DON'T KNOW.
WHAT DO, WHAT DO I ALREADY FORGOT? WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? PUSH THE HAND CARDS.
PUSH CARDS OR PUSH? I THINK WE JUST GOTTA BE A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC.
WHAT IS CAMPAIGNING? CORRECT? WHAT IS POLITICKING? MM-HMM.
THREE LAWYERS ON THE COMMISSION.
Y'ALL MAKE MY HEAD OR
UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, COMMISSIONER, WE NEED TO READ THE CAPTION.
DO WE NEED TO PUT THE ORDINANCES IN THEIR OWN SECTION? HE JUST WANTED TO GET YOU ON IT.
WE NEED TO ALL BE ONE SECTION, LIKE AFTER PUBLIC HEARING.
I'VE, I'VE TOLD HIM I, THE, THE, THE COG ONES THERE AIR IN RED.
WE, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE CAN DO THAT.
WE CAN PROBABLY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT COLOR GREENIE NEEDS, BUT
AND THEN, AND THERE'S AN ORDINANCE THAT EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE CAN'T USE RED AND GREEN, BUT WE CAN USE ORANGE AND GREEN IF WE NEED TO.
ORANGE AND GREEN DEFINITELY CAP.
THEY WORK RED AND BURNT ORANGE AT THAT, BY THE WAY.
YOU WANNA READ THE ORDINANCE? AN ORDINANCE AMENDED CHAPTER 36, PARKS AND RECREATION, ARTICLE FIVE, PUBLIC CONDUCT AND THE USE OF PARKS AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES.
DIVISION ONE, GENERALLY AMENDING SECTION.
GENERALLY AMENDING SECTION 36 1 0 6 PARK RULES AND POLICIES BY ADDING PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES IN CITY PARKS AND FACILITIES AND PROVIDING FOR PENALTY OF A FINE NOT TO EXCEED THE SUM OF $200 FOR EACH OFFENSE, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE PROVIDING FOR THE PUBLICATION OF THIS ORDINANCE.
AND ORDAIN ANY OTHER MATTERS RELATING TO THE FOREGOING.
SO I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE SUBJECTS TO THE AMENDMENTS AND EXCEPTIONS DISCUSSED FOR ITEM ONE.
THAT WOULD BE THE DESIGNATED SPACE, CORRECT? NO.
WAIT, WAIT, THAT'S WHAT PARKING, CORRECT.
PARKING DOESN'T NEED EXPENSE FOR THE PARKING.
NOT TO RIDE OR DRIVE, CORRECT.
NUMBER 10 TO, UH, TIGHTEN THE LANGUAGE DOWN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE, UH, BILL OF RIGHTS.
AND THEN NUMBER 13, TO DETERMINE SUNDOWN VERSUS, UH, THE TIME OR WHATNOT.
OR YOU WANNA MAKE THE AMENDMENT TO SUNDOWN RIGHT? SUNDOWN OR 9:00 PM WHICHEVER
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WORKS.SO THAT'S GO FOR, IT'S VISIBLE FOR, YEP.
AND YOU'VE GOT THAT RIGHT, JAVIER? YES, SIR.
SORRY, WHERE'S MY WAND?
IT'S CALLED EARLY EVENING NAUTICAL TWILIGHT.
SO THERE WAS A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LOPEZ AND A SECOND BY FETAS.
UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[Item 10i - Consideration and possible action to authorize the City Manager to purchase a 2024 Ford Explorer for Communication and Media Department for transportation of equipment to and from event locations]
CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO PURCHASE A 2024, UH, EXPLORER FROM COMMUNI FOUR, COMMUNICATIONS AND MEDIA DEPARTMENT FOR TRANSPORTATION AND EQUIPMENT TO AND FROM EVENT LOCATIONS.
MOTION TO APPROVE QUESTION? YES, REAL QUICK.
THIS IS COMING FROM THE PEG FUNDS? YES, SIR.
DID YOU GET THE THREE QUOTES WE'RE YOU'RE USING THE BUYBOARD SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO, DON'T HAVE TO LOOK IT UP.
WHAT'S ON THE BUYBOARD GOES, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.
UH, LET ME ASK ONE, ONE LAST QUESTION.
ARE THEY GETTING CAR ALLOWANCE? WOULDN'T IT BE CHEAPER FOR THEM TO GET CAR ALLOWANCE THAN BUYING THE VEHICLE? WELL, UM, IF THEY DON'T HAVE A CAR BIG ENOUGH TO TRANSPORT EVERYTHING, THAT'S, THAT'S THE THING.
WE, WE, NO, THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS THE TWO EMPLOYEES AREN'T GETTING A CAR ALLOWANCE.
SO I WILL SAY I'VE SEEN BRANDON CARRYING AROUND ALL HIS EQUIPMENT IN HIS CAR, AND IT'S A LOT.
THEY NEED SOME KIND OF A UTILITY AND WE SHOULDN'T, I DON'T, EVEN IF YOU GIVE THEM A CAR ALLOWANCE, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE WEAR AND TEAR ON THEIR VEHICLES AND ALL THE EQUIPMENT, AND THIS IS COMING FROM THE, THE PEG FUND.
SO IT'S NOT GENERAL FUND OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT I DON'T, MAYBE, MAYBE YOU NEED TO LOOK AT IN TERMS OF THE GAS.
I MEAN, DO THEY NEED THAT ANYMORE? IF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE VEHICLE? I DON'T KNOW THAT'S A CITY MANAGEMENT BECAUSE IT'S NOT ALL OF THEM WILL BE.
IT WOULD JUST BE BRENDA AND, AND YEAH, HE'S THE ONE THAT CARRIES AROUND A LOT OF THE EQUIPMENT.
CHRISTINA, YOU WANNA? SO WE GET HIM AN ASTRO VAN.
WELL, I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFITS TO, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS EXPLORER, BUT, BUT IT'S LIKE THE, THE, THE VAN, THE NINJA TURTLES USED TO DRIVE IN.
SO, SO THE GOAL WOULD BE TO TO TO WRAP THE VEHICLE, THOSE BUSTERS.
IS THAT RIGHT? TO, WOULD YOU DO THAT? WRAP IT SO THAT WAY THERE'S, WE'RE GOING AWARENESS.
I SAW A COUPLE LIKE A WEEK AGO, BUT IT'S PRETTY COOL.
AND, AND IT JUST, YOU CAN PUT OUR DEPARTMENT'S FACE ON IT.
CHRISTINA'S FACE IS REAL BIG ON THE SIDE.
SO ANYHOW, IS, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, COMMISSIONER MORALES'S POINT QUESTION WAS WHAT AGAIN? THE GAS ALLOWANCE.
AND SO WOULD THIS VEHICLE BE FOR YOU? WOULD IT BE FOR BRANDON? UH, WHAT DID, CAN YOU NO, SHE GETS CAR ALLOWANCE.
UM, SO IT WOULD BE FOR BRANDON AND CALISTA.
UM, AND THEY TYPICALLY GO, WE GO PLACES EVERY SINGLE DAY.
UM, AND I DRIVE MY PERSONAL VEHICLE EVERYWHERE.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD BE UTILIZED A PLACE TO TAKE ALL OF HIS CAMERA EQUIPMENT AND WHATNOT.
AND THEY DO NOT GET, UM, THEY DO NOT GET A, THEY DON'T, RIGHT? NO.
SO THEY DON'T GET ONE, ONLY THE DIRECTOR.
AND IT IS REALLY FOR THE SUPPORT STAFF.
AND I'M SURE EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE YOU'LL BE THERE WITH THEM WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO YES.
AND I WILL NOT BE DRIVING THE VEHICLE AT ALL BECAUSE I DO GET A CAR ALLOWANCE.
I'VE SEEN BRANDON WITH ALL HIS, HIS, UH, TRIPODS, EVERYTHING.
AND HE DOES AN AMAZING JOB IF WE, I, I DON'T KNOW.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE CAN MAKE US LOOK GOOD? HE CAN DO MAGIC.
ALRIGHT, SO I MADE THE MOTION.
SO WE'RE WAITING FOR A SECOND.
[Item 10j - Consideration and possible action to create an Ad Hoc Committee to appoint members to assess the physical and social environment of a Community/City in the Rio Grande Valley Region for adults.]
J CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO CREATE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE TO APPOINT MEMBERS TO ASSESS THE PHYSICAL AND SOCIAL ENVIRONMENT OF A COMMUNITY CITY IN THE RIO GRANDE VALLEY, UH, REGION FOR ADULTS.UH, SO ON THIS ONE, WHAT I WAS THINKING, UH, NORMA, IS WE ALREADY HAVE A SENIOR CITIZEN, UH, WE ALREADY HAVE A SENIOR CITIZEN BOARD.
THEY DON'T NEED, WE, THEY'RE NOT WELL, WE WOULD JUST APPOINT 'EM AND REACTIVATE 'EM AND JUST RATHER THAN CREATE ANOTHER COMMITTEE MM-HMM.
GIVE THEM A, A ADDITIONAL DUTY.
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WE'D, WE'RE ALL GONNA HAVE TO MAKE APPOINTMENTS ANYWAYS FOR THE MIGHT AS WELL JUST PUT THIS SENIOR ONE.AND I WAS THINKING TO PIGGYBACK ON THIS NORM, IF YOU THOUGHT UHHUH, REMEMBER BEFORE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, YOU BROUGHT YOUR, UM, YES.
AND THEN Y'ALL SAID, OH, WELL, WE DON'T NEED IT.
THE STATE'S ALREADY TAKING CARE OF IT.
LIKE, OH, WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, THE STATE STATES.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT I SOUND LIKE SAID, BUT I'M GIVING YOU A HARD TIME.
WE CAN BUNDLE THEM INTO THE SENIOR CITIZEN.
HOWEVER, UM, I DID THINK THAT WE WERE GOING TO DISSOLVE THAT BOARD.
UM, I DID TOO TILL THIS CAME OUT.
SO I, SO I'LL, I'LL JUST SAY I WANNA, I, I SPENT A LOT OF TIME, HE CAME TO TALK TO ME AND HE'S GONE TO THE DIFFERENT CITIES AND, UM, THEY'VE ADOPTED, UH, SOME OF THE CITIES HAVE ADOPTED PROCLAMATIONS, AND HE'S GOT A LOT OF SUPPORT IN TERMS OF U-T-R-G-V.
HE'S BEEN VERY, UM, SUPPORTIVE OF HELPING OUR GRANTS DEPARTMENT TO OBTAIN GRANTS FOR, FOR, AND WE TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS, AND I ASKED HIM, SO WHAT WOULD THIS BOARD, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE THE COMPOSITION OF THIS BOARD? AND SO WE TALKED ABOUT WOULD IT BE SENIOR CITIZENS? AND HE SAID, NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE YOU NEED TO HAVE A, A, A GROUP THAT IS ABLE TO DO, YOU KNOW, LIKE THINGS IN TERMS OF BEING TECH SAVVY, UM, HELPING WITH THE SURVEYS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DISTRIBUTE.
YOU MIGHT HAVE A, UM, A, A PERSON THAT IS CARING FOR THEIR ELDERLY PARENTS AND HAS THOSE CONCERNS.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS SENIOR CITIZEN BOARD WOULD FIT THE BILL, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE LANGUAGE ON THAT OR, OR WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT ORDINANCE.
UM, BUT HE IS TRYING TO, AND I THINK JAVI IS HERE.
I THINK HE SAID HE IS GONNA HAVE A, UM, AN EVENT AT THE HARLINGEN CONVENTION CENTER AND WANTS TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THE CITIES THAT HAVE ADOPTED THIS AND FOR THAT GROUP TO MEET QUICKLY.
UM, AND WOULD LIKE A COMMISSIONER, WHOEVER WANTS TO VOLUNTEER FOR THE PHYSICIAN TO, TO ASSIST AND TO HELP THIS, UH, THIS GROUP.
SO WHAT I DON'T WANT IS FOR US TO USE A BOARD WHERE THERE'S NOBODY ON THE BOARD THAT IS MEETING, UM, AND THEY HAVEN'T REALLY SIGNED ON TO, TO DO THIS BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN MEETING.
AND THEN WE RELY ON IT AND IT BECOMES ONE OF THE BOARDS, LIKE, UM, FETIS THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST, IT, IT, WHAT DID YOU SAY? ASPIRATIONAL, BUT NOT, THEY'RE NOT REALLY SUBSTANTIVE.
AND SO THAT, THAT, THOSE ARE THE CONCERNS.
UM, I, WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE NEED TO DO, UH, IF IT'S THROUGH THIS BOARD, I JUST DON'T KNOW.
LIKE I SAID, BASED ON THE OTHER BOARDS OR THE OTHER COMMUNITIES, THEY'RE NOT ALL SENIOR CITIZENS.
THIS ONE, THEY DEFINE SENIOR CITIZENS AS 55 AND UP, WHICH I KNOW WOULD OFFEND A LOT OF PEOPLE.
UM, BUT, AND IT SAYS IT'S SIX BOARDS.
THIS IS THE SENIOR CITIZENS ADVISORY BOARD.
SO EACH REPRESENT AN ORGANIZATION THAT FUND OR PROVIDE SERVICES TO SENIOR CITIZENS OR REPRESENTED MOBILE HOME PARK FOR SENIOR CITIZENS OR OTHER RETIREMENT COMMUNITY WITHIN THE CITY.
I THINK WE CAN TWEAK THIS ONE TO 15.
OR CAN WE DO THAT? CAN WE DO IT QUICKLY? AND THEN IF WE CAN JUST GO DOWN TO SEVEN.
SEVEN APPOINTEES, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING WITH EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO INSTEAD OF 11 SEVEN, THEN THE RUMS FOUR, BECAUSE WE THAT'S EASIER, HUH? YEAH, I AGREE.
BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA, THAT'S EXACTLY, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO, WE DIDN'T TRY TO MEET MONDAY.
I KNOW, BUT IF WE CUT IT DOWN TO SEVEN UP, THEY DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T MEET.
WELL, WE HAD A MEETING, BUT ONE MORE PERSON DIDN'T GET A QUO.
WE, WE WERE, WE HAD NINE, WE NEEDED 10 AND YEAH.
I MEAN, WHATEVER IS GOING TO KIND OF HELP HIM MOVE ON WITH HIS, UH, INITIATIVE, I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THE CITY.
SO, AND IF WE CAN AMEND IT ALSO, UH, MARK TO INCLUDE THAT OTHER BOARD THAT YOU WANTED WITH, UM, OR THAT MISSION THAT YOU WANTED FOR, UH, CAP ACCESSIBLE.
UM, TO, TO HAVE LANGUAGE THAT IS ALL INCLUSIVE.
I GUESS YOU WERE TRYING TO SAY, BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE A DA AREN'T OLD.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT WOULD BE, WOULD MORPH THE TWO THINGS.
SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE CALLED THE SENIOR CITIZENS BOARD? NO, BUT WE HAVE THE FRAMEWORK THERE.
WOULD IT BE MARKED DOING THIS? YEAH, IT WOULD BE MARKED.
SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, AMEND THE ORDINANCE AND APPROVE THIS BOARD IN THE FRAMEWORK OF THE SENIOR CITIZEN ADVISORY BOARD.
SO THIS IS AN AD HOC COMMITTEE, NOT A, THIS IS A BOARD C NOT AN AD HOC COMMITTEE.
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RIGHT? IT A, JUST, JUST TO SAY 'CAUSE OF THE CORRECT UNDER THE LANGUAGE WE HAVE UNDER THE, THE AGENDA SAYS AD HOC, BUT WE'RE MAKING IT THE BOLD.I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE GOT EVERYTHING.
[Item 10k - Discussion and possible action to approve a resolution authorizing city staff to proceed with the filing of Articles of Incorporation of a Non-Profit Animal Welfare Corporation to support the Harlingen Animal Shelter.]
OKAY.AND THE NEXT ONE IS DISCUSSION AND DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING CITY STAFF TO PROCEED WITH A FILING OF ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION OF A NON-PROFIT ANIMAL WELFARE CORPORATION TO SUPPORT THE HARLING AND ANIMAL SHELTER ATTACHMENT.
THIS ITEM WAS TABLE AT THE LAST MEETING OF MARCH 20TH.
IS THERE A MOTION TO REMOVE IT FROM THE TABLE? MOTION.
SO IT IS OFF THE TABLE AND UP FOR DISCUSSION, MARK.
AND THE RESOLUTION BASICALLY WOULD SUPPORT, UH, THE CITY MATTER, GIVE DIRECTION TO THE CITY MANAGER TO FILE THE ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION, UH, AND HAVE TO GET THE BYLAWS APPROVED.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THE, THE STEPS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE TAKEN IS WE WOULD HAVE TO DESIGNATE SOME INITIAL DIRECTORS.
THAT WOULD BASICALLY BE, YOU NEED THREE, THREE INITIAL DIRECTORS, UH, TO FILE THE ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION, BECAUSE THIS WON'T BE A CORPORATION THAT'S GOVERNED BY ITS MEMBERS.
IT'S GOVERNED BY THREE DIRECTORS, AND THEN THOSE DIRECTORS, THEY, IT COULD BE CITY STAFF PEOPLE ELECTING YOU OR DIRECTION, OR IT COULD BE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION OR YOU COULD APPOINT OH, EVERY MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION COULD BE A MEMBER, HOWEVER YOU WANTED TO DO IT.
AND THEN, AND THEN THAT INITIAL DIRECTORS WOULD GO ABOUT SELECTING A REGULAR BOARD OF DIRECTORS, UNLESS THE INITIAL DIRECTORS WANTED TO BE THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
SO IT, IT'S, IT IS REALLY, REALLY HOW YOU WANT TO HANDLE IT IS, IS UP TO YOU.
THE ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION ARE PREPARED FOR A NONPROFIT, UH, ENTITY THAT WOULD CARRY OUT THE TASKS THAT YOU'VE INDICATED.
AND THE BYLAWS ARE ALSO WRITTEN CONSISTENTLY FOR THAT PURPOSE.
SO IT'S REALLY UP TO THE COMMISSION HOW YOU WANNA PROCEED WITH THIS.
I'D RECOMMEND THAT WE, NEMORE, MAMORE HAS A QUESTION.
YOU WANT TO MAKE THE ANIMAL SHELTER A 5 0 1 C3? IS THAT THIS? NO, NO.
COMMISSIONER WOULD, THIS IS, THIS IS A NONPROFIT CORPORATION THAT WOULD ACT IN SUPPORT OF SPAYING AND NEUTERING AT THE SHELTER.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, IT WOULD ABLE TO SOLICIT PRIVATE DONATIONS AS A 5 0 1 C3.
SO THIS WOULD BE A CONDUIT, A PASS THROUGH FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE.
THIS WOULD BE AN INDEPENDENT NONPROFIT CORPORATION, UH, THAT WOULD BE FORMED UNDER THE, THE POWERS OF A HOME RULE CITY, WHICH YOU, YOU HAVE THE POWER TO DO IT.
IT IT'S IN MONO, BUT THE MONEY, BUT THE MONEY WOULD BE, COULD BE TAX, UM, A TAX DONATION TO THIS ORGANIZATION.
AND THEN THEIR, THEIR JOB IS TO FUNNEL THE MONEY TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER, CORRECT? WELL, THEIR, THEIR JOB WOULD BE TO SUPPORT SPAY A NEUTER COMMISSIONER AT THE ANIMAL SHELTER.
IT WOULDN'T BE TO FUNNEL MONEY TO THE ANIMAL
ALL THE LAWYERS CLAIMS WHEN YOU SAY, OH, THAT WASN'T A GOOD WORD.
SO, SO MIKE, WHAT THIS WOULD SAD ENVELOPE.
BUT WHAT
SO THERE'S CERTAIN GRANTS THAT MUNICIPALITIES CAN REQUEST OR, OR CAN APPLY FOR, AND THEN THERE'S OTHERS THAT CANNOT.
SO IT GET, IT OPENS UP MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR GRANTS FOR FUNDING, AND THERE'S A LOT OF GRANTS OUT THERE THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
AND SO THEY WOULD ACTIVELY BE SEARCHING FOR THOSE FUNDS, WHICH WOULD OFFSET THE COST OF THE ANIMAL SHELTER.
AND IT'S DESIGNATED THAT IT WOULD BE FOR SUPPORTING EDUCATION AND PROPER CARE OF ANIMALS.
AND OF COURSE, THE SPAY AND, AND NEUTER.
I DID TALK TO DONNA AT THE LIBRARY TO KIND OF GET AN IDEA OF HOW THEY WORKS OUT THERE, AND SHE SAID THAT SHE SERVES, UM, AS THE, LIKE A, A NON-VOTING MEMBER.
AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE SHANNON AND PROBABLY, UM, JASMINE TO, TO SERVE AS NON-VOTING MEMBERS.
SHE SAID THAT AT THE LIBRARY, THAT SHE PROVIDES LOTS OF GUIDANCE AND REALLY, UH, DOES A LOT OF THE GRANT WRITING.
AND THEY UTILIZE THE, THAT, UH, NONPROFIT TO BE ABLE TO GET MONEY AND GRANTS AND STUFF TO, TO SUPPORT THE LIBRARY.
SO THIS WOULD BE SIMILAR TO THAT.
THEY WOULD BE, THEY'D HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE OPERATION OF THE SHELTER ITSELF.
IT'S JUST A MECHANISM TO BE TRANSPARENT WITH FUNDS THAT ARE WANT, OR FOR FOLKS THAT ARE WANTING TO MAKE MONETARY DONATIONS AND ALSO TO SUPPORT THE, UH, SPAY AND NEUTER INITIATIVES WITHIN THE, WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.
UH, MAYOR HAVE, HAVING SAID THAT, IN THE, UH, CERTIFICATE OF PROPOSED CERTIFICATE OF FORMATION FOR THE NONPROFIT CORPORATION AT, UM, I, I'M SORRY.
IN THE, ACTUALLY IT WAS, IT'S IN THE PROPOSED BYLAWS AT PARAGRAPH, UH, 3.2 NUMBER AND QUALIFICATIONS OF THE DIRECTORS.
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DIRECTORS REPRESENTING ONE FOR EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION.AND I HAD PROPOSED THAT THE DIRECTOR OF THE HAULAGE AND ANIMAL SHELTER AS AN EX-OFFICIO MEMBER.
UH, AND THEN ALSO PROBABLY THE, THE, THE OPERATIONS MANAGER.
'CAUSE THE HEALTH DIRECTOR IS, SHE'S OVERSEES OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
AND THE OPERATIONS MANAGER? MM-HMM.
SO AM I USING THE CORRECT TERMINOLOGY? SO THE DIRECTOR OF THE ANIMAL SHELTER AND THE SHELTER MANAGER WOULD BE EX-OFFICIO MEMBERS.
DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I CAN HEAR YOU.
I WANT TO BE CAREFUL HOW WE DO THIS SO THAT WE AVOID MAKING ANY MISTAKES FROM THE PAST TO BRING THOSE BACK UP.
AND SO, LOOKING AT PARAGRAPH 3.4 AND 3.5 OF THE BYLAWS, YOU HAVE THE BYLAWS, GREGORY, ACTUALLY, LET'S GO TO 3.2 0.1.
UH, I THINK WE SHOULD DO SEVEN VOTING MEMBERS.
AND THEN 3.4, OR LET'S DO 3.5 FIRST.
I THINK THAT ALL BOARD MEMBERS SHOULD ALWAYS BE PICKED BY THE CITY COMMISSION.
SO JUST LIKE WE DO, UH, FRANK, JUST LIKE WE DO FOR THE ADVISORY BOARDS NOW, YOU WOULD ALWAYS HAVE A PICK YOU OR YOUR, YOUR SLOT WILL ALWAYS HAVE A PICK IN PERPETUITY.
THE MAYOR WOULD ALWAYS HAVE TWO PICKS IN PERPETUITY.
EACH ONE OF OUR, OUR SLOTS WOULD HAVE ONE.
SO, AND THEN THE TERM, TERM OF BOARD, JUST SO I LAY IF I CAN, WOULD RUN CONCURRENT WITH APPOINTING COMMISSIONER AND OR MAYOR.
IN THAT CASE, WHAT WE CAN DO, THERE'S TWO WAYS TO DO A CORPORATION.
YOU CAN DO ONE WITH MEMBERS AND ONE WITHOUT.
IF YOU DO MEMBERS, WE CAN HAVE THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION AS THE MEMBERS.
AND THEN WE DON'T NEED INITIAL DIRECTORS.
WE CAN JUST HAVE THE VOTE, THE CITY COMMISSION VOTE STRAIGHT, UH, ON THE INITIAL DIRECTORS.
I LEAVE THAT TO YOU 'CAUSE THAT'S OUT OUTSIDE MY WHEELHOUSE.
I, I, I HADN'T REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.
AND I THOUGHT THAT THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD LIKE THE WAY THAT THE LIBRARY DOES THAT THEY CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD AND, AND, UH, SERVE AND THEN THEY'D MOVE ON TO DECIDE WHO THE MEMBERS ARE.
BUT I CAN SEE YOUR POINT AND THE SAFEGUARDS OF ALL THE STUFF THAT'S, YOU KNOW.
I THINK THAT THAT'S A GOOD, OKAY.
THAT'S A GOOD, WE CAN, WE CAN DO IT THAT WAY.
IS THAT IT? AND THE ONLY THING I WOULD CHANGE IS, UM, I, I WON'T RECOMMEND, UM, BE ELIGIBLE FOR RECONSIDERATION AS A BOARD MEMBER AFTER THREE YEARS.
WHERE IT HAS LIKE A TOURNAMENT MM-HMM.
I WOULD SAY THREE BECAUSE IF WE'RE GONNA BE CONCURRENT, IT WOULD BE THREE.
SO DO YOU WANT TERM LIMITS ON THESE BOARDS? BECAUSE, UM, SO SAY I'M NO LONGER HERE ANYMORE.
WHICH IS GONNA HAPPEN AT SOME POINT.
AND YOU, AND YOU, LONG, LONG TIME.
ALL THESE PEOPLE LONG, WE'RE GONNA HAVE YOU FOR A LONG WOW.
UM, ANYHOW, UH, THE, THE IDEA IS WHAT IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY THAT IS, I MEAN, THEY'RE VOLUNTEERS, RIGHT? THEY'RE ON THERE AND THEY'RE GREAT FUNDRAISERS FOR THE BOARD, AND YOU WANNA TELL 'EM UP YOUR TIME'S UP.
I, I DON'T KNOW THAT I, IF YOU LEAVE IT OPEN, THEN THE PERSON THAT FITS, YOU KNOW, THAT IS FILLING OUR SEATS CAN LOOK.
AND, AND LIKE I DID WHEN I CAME ON BOARD, AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT I AM, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE ALREADY SERVING, I REAPPOINTED BECAUSE I SAT WITH THEM AND THEY WERE DOING A GOOD JOB.
AND SO WHY ARE WE GONNA REMOVE THEM? JUST BECAUSE TIME LIMITS.
I THINK WITH, UH, COMMISSION, IT'S DIFFERENT 'CAUSE WE
BUT ON THESE VOLUNTEER BOARDS, THE LONGER THAT THEY SERVE ON THESE BOARDS, THE MORE LOOK AT, UM, THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB.
RIGHT? LIKE I, I THINK THAT THEY DO A GREAT JOB AND SOME OF THOSE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
UH, AND AS THEY, AS THEY, THE LONGER THAT THEY'RE ON THIS, UM, ON THE, ON THE BOARD, THE MORE CONNECT, MORE NETWORKING AND CONNECTIONS THAT THEY MAKE IN THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE THAT SUPPORT.
SO, WELL, I THINK IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE GONNA BE THERE FOR THAT LONG, THEY'RE GONNA WANT TO CONTINUE SERVING THE BOARD IN ANY WAY, IN ANY WAY THAT THEY CAN.
I'M JUST A HUGE FAN OF TERM LIMITS.
AND I THINK THIS, IT, IT, I THINK SIX YEARS RIGHT NOW HAS IT FOR SIX YEARS.
SO, I MEAN, YOU'RE ON THE BOARD FOR SIX YEARS.
AND IF YOU'RE THAT, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, THEY'RE, UM, VERY, UM, GOOD NETWORKING AND ALL THAT STUFF, THEY'RE GONNA WANNA STAY INVOLVED.
THEY'RE NOT JUST GONNA WANNA DISAPPEAR.
OH, I'M NOT ON THE BOARD ANYMORE.
AND THEN WE NEED FRESH BLOOD TO, YOU KNOW, REPLENISH IT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.
I MEAN, THOSE ARE JUST MY THOUGHTS, BUT I THINK EITHER WAY IT, IT WORKS.
I JUST WOULD HATE TO, YOU KNOW, LIMIT SOMEONE THAT IS REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT, I MEAN,
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I THINK THE INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONER, I MEAN, I, I REAPPOINTED PROBABLY HALF OF MY PEOPLE.BUT YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO, I MEAN, SO I, WELL, IF YOU WANNA MOVE IT UP TO NINE YEARS, I'M FINE.
THREE TERMS, I'M FINE WITH THAT.
BUT AS LONG AS THERE'S SOME SET TERM LIMIT.
I DON'T WANT SOMEONE THERE FOR LIKE 20 YEARS AND STUFF.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB.
I, I MEAN, LOOK AT THE LADIES THAT CAME FOR THE MAKE-A-WISH.
AND IF THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE THERE FOR 20 YEARS AND THEY'RE DOING WONDERFUL WORK, THEN SO BE IT.
THAT'S JUST, I THINK THAT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, SUPPORT AND ADVOCACY, IT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IMPLEMENTING, UM, POLICY AND SERVING AND ON A GOVERNING BODY.
THEY'RE REALLY THERE JUST TO SUPPORT.
YOU'RE, AND WE SAW IT RECENTLY IN OUR, I KNOW, INTERACTIONS WITH CERTAIN STUFF.
WELL, HOPEFULLY THAT WAS ISOLATED.
WELL, I'M JUST GONNA SAY THE LANGUAGE IN MY MIND.
YEAH, I AGREE THAT THAT'S THE BROADEST.
SO THE COMMISSION WILL MAKE THE APPOINTMENTS AND THE TERM WILL RUN CONCURRENT WITH THE TERM OF THE APPOINTING MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION.
AND IF THERE IS A VACANCY, BECAUSE SOMETHING HAPPENS AND THE REAPPOINTMENT STILL CONTINUES TO FACTOR, YEAH.
AS THE TERM LIMITS I LEAVE TO YOU.
THOSE ARE THE ONLY, UH, CHANGES I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE.
YEAH, I'M, I MEAN, I, I THINK THAT, THAT, IF THOSE ARE BIG CONCERNS, THAT'S FINE TOO.
SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THIS SUBJECT TO THE AMENDMENTS DISCUSSED HERE SPECIFICALLY IN, UH, 3.2 0.1, 3.4, 3.5.
SO WHAT DID WE SET ON? 3.4? YOUR TERM LIMITS OF THREE TERMS OR WHAT? THREE TERMS. AND THEN WE GOT 12 YEARS RIGHT.
SO YOU WANNA MAKE IT CONCURRENT WITH THE TERM LIMITS OF THE CITY.
WE HAVE FOUR THREE YEAR TERMS. THREE.
THREE TERMS. THREE TERMS. FOUR, THREE.
FOUR, THREE YEAR TERMS. WHAT DO YOU THINK, FRANK? 4 0 4, 3 YEAR, OR, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU.
SO THE SAME AS THE COMMISSION.
YOU GOT THAT MARK? YEAH, I GOT IT.
SO WE GOT A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER LOPEZ AND A SECOND FROM, YOU SAID YOU AGREE SECOND.
SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PEREZ.
[Item 10l - Discussion regarding City Boards.]
REGARDING CITY BOARDS.THIS IS FOR YOU AND DANIEL, RIGHT? YES.
OH, OH, I'M, I'M THE OMNIBUS, RIGHT? YEAH.
WHERE ARE WE AT? RIGHT? MY BRAIN'S FRIED RIGHT NOW.
SO, SO WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT CHANGES TO THE OMNIBUS BILL, RIGHT? AND, AND WE HAD AGREED THAT BEFORE WE WENT ON TO THE ACTUAL MEAT OF THE BILL, THE ORDINANCE ITSELF, YOU, WE WOULD HAVE A DISCUSSION AMONG THE COMMISSION MEMBERS AS TO WHICH AWARDS.
THAT'S THAT WHAT IT WAS, CONTINUE TO FUNCTION.
AND WHICH STAFF, DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHO, WHICH BOARD SHOULD BE DISSOLVED? HOUSING FINANCE OFF WITH ALL OF THEM.
IS THAT THE ONLY ONE? ALRIGHT.
WHICH ONE? THE HOUSING FINANCE, I THINK YOU'D ALREADY PUT ON THEIR LIST.
AND THAT ONE DOESN'T HAVE ANY MONEY, CORRECT? RIGHT.
NO MONEY IN THAT, IN THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA, I NEED TO CONTACT THE, THE LAWYER FOR THAT AND FIND OUT.
SO I THINK CONTINGENT UPON THAT, THERE IS NO MONEY THAT IS LEFT TO BE DISPERSED, RIGHT? YEAH.
THEN WE'RE WORKING ON DISSOLVING IT IN THE FUTURE.
RIGHT? AGAIN, LIKE I TOLD YOU LAST TIME, COMMISSIONER MORALES, THIS WILL BE BROUGHT UP EVERY TWO WEEKS TILL WE FINALLY APPROVE SOMETHING.
AND I THINK ON THE HEALTHY HARIN, WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW IF THERE'S EVER GONNA BE ANY FUNDING FOR, FOR, AND, AND IF THERE'S NOT GONNA BE FUNDING, THEN MAYBE IT NEEDS TO BE REVAMPED, UM, INTO JUST BEING A CITY BOARD AND NOT INCORPORATE HEALTHY HAR ENGINE.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE HAVING TO WORK WITH SO MANY DIFFERENT EXTERNAL, UH, ORGANIZATIONS AND PEOPLE THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT THEN YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO MEET, RIGHT? NO, WE HAVEN'T MET BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO MONEY, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO, AND THEN IF IT BECOMES NOW A CITY, A CITY BOARD, MAYBE THEN CITY GRANTS CAN HELP FUND, UH, AND IT CAN BE A BOARD THAT IS FOR THE ENTIRE COMMISSION IN TERMS OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS.
BUT I THINK IF YOU CAN GET WITH, UM, MOISE AND SEE, SEE WHAT THE THOUGHT IS AND MAYBE SET A MEETING TO, TO TALK ABOUT THAT IN, IN THAT LAST APPLICATION THAT YOU HAD FOR THE LEGACY FOUNDATION.
THE OTHER THING I HEAR SINCE IT CAME UP WITH
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YOU GUYS IS MARK, CAN WE PUT IT ON FOR NEXT AGENDA ITEM TO, FOR THE KEY PARTS AND BEAUTIFUL.THAT WE CAN KEEP THE SAME AMOUNT OF PEOPLE, BUT A QUORUM IS FOUR.
LIKE, THERE'LL BE LIKE A, LIKE WE WOULD CALL IT LIKE A BOARD OF SEVEN PEOPLE, RIGHT? AND YOU CAN STILL HAVE OTHER MEMBERS, BUT WE NEED TO LOWER THAT QUORUM NUMBER BECAUSE YEAH, RIGHT.
BECAUSE WE ALL GET THREE APPOINTMENTS.
THREE APPOINTMENTS A PIECE IS WHAT WE'VE GOT ON, WHICH IS A LOT.
OH, DO YOU WANNA JUST CUT DOWN THE NUMBERS COMPLETELY? WHY? YEAH, WHY ISN'T IT JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER, THE, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THE, FOR OUR BOARDS, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS BILL OR NOT BILL THIS ORDINANCE, THAT THE MAKEUP OF THE BOARDS ARE THE SAME.
I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT THE, WE'VE GOT SEVEN AT THE EDC, WE'VE GOT SEVEN ON THE AIRPORT, WE'VE GOT SEVEN.
AND, AND SO IT JUST MAKES MORE SENSE THAT WAY AND THAT WAY THERE IT'S EASIER FOR THEM TO MEET BECAUSE THERE'S LESS PEOPLE AND THERE ARE SOME REQUIREMENTS LIKE THE PLANNING, BUILDING, THE CONSTRUCTION, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES THAT WE HAVE TO FILL.
BUT, BUT I THINK THOSE ARE BY STATUTE.
KEY FARM ARE BEAUTIFUL, WAS A 5 0 1 C3.
IT WAS A NONPROFIT, HAS THEIR OWN BYLAWS.
IS THAT STILL IN, IN EFFECT? YES.
THAT'S WHAT, AND THEY HAVE MONEY.
BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN GIVING THEM MONEY.
'CAUSE THE MONEY USED TO COME FROM THE RECYCLE CENTER, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
THE CITY DETERMINED $150,000 A YEAR WOULD GO TO KHB.
SO HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE HAVE IN THERE? 'CAUSE THE SECOND CENTER'S BEEN DONE SINCE LIKE, COVID TWO, 2019.
SO WE SHOULD HAVE WHAT, LIKE SIX, $900? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT YEAH, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT, THAT'S NOT BEEN GETTING ROLLED OVER, I'M SURE.
NO, THAT WAS ONE YEAR WHERE WE DIDN'T GIVE 'EM ANY MONEY.
THAT WAS ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO.
SO THEY, THEY'VE GOT ABOUT, UH, 400 SOME THOUSAND RIGHT NOW.
SO, UM, HAS THERE BEEN, I KNOW THEY HAVEN'T MET, BUT HAVE WE, HAS CITY STAFF REACHED OUT TO THE BOARD MEMBERS TO SEE IF THEY WANNA CONTINUE TO SERVE? OH, ACTUALLY RIGHT NOW, MAYOR IT, THAT BOARD REALLY, WE HAVE FOUR VACANCIES.
THAT BOARD UHHUH CONSISTS ACTUALLY OF 18 MEMBERS RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S 14 AND FOUR, I MEAN FOUR ACTIVE, UH, 14 ACTIVE MEMBERS AND FOUR VACANT.
BUT DO OUT OF THOSE, HAVE ALL OF THEM BEEN CONTACTED? 'CAUSE I THINK AT THE LAST TIME WHEN WE HAD THAT MEETING, REMEMBER, UH, JOSH, I ASKED BACK THEN TO, AND THAT WAS A YEAR AGO, TO CONTACT EVERY SINGLE, I ASKED, I THINK YOU AMANDA, TO, TO CONTACT EVERY SINGLE BOARD MEMBER AND ASK THEM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO CONTINUE TO SERVE? SO THAT WAY WE KNEW WHETHER THEY WANTED TO OR NOT.
BECAUSE IF YOU CONTINUE TO HAVE THE MEETINGS AND THEY DON'T WANNA SERVE, THEN YOU'RE NEVER GONNA MAKE QUORUM.
WELL, ALL THREE OF MINE WERE NEW APPOINTMENTS.
SO THEY'RE WANTING TO, THEY'RE ALL TO SERVE TWO, THREE.
AND I'M, I'M HAPPY TO ABSORB TWO, THREE, WERE THERE, AS YOU KNOW, UH, WHOEVER IT WHO, AND I WOULD RECOMMEND THE WHOLE COMMISSION.
LIKE IF MINE DON'T WANNA SERVE, THEN I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ON SOME AFFORDS BECAUSE THEY'RE NEW.
BECAUSE ALL I LIKE TO REPORT THAT ALL MY THREE CAME, SO, AND I DON'T, AND I, AND THEN I TALK TO EACH AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF 'EM.
AND EACH AND A SINGLE ONE OF THEM WANT TO SERVE ON THE BOARD.
I THINK I HAVE NICK AND, AND, UH, BECAUSE IT WAS ALWAYS A BIG BOARD.
I MEAN, YEAH, IT WAS, WHEN I, WHEN I WAS ON KHB, WE ALWAYS HAD AT LEAST A DOZEN MEMBERS BECAUSE THEY HAD YOU FOR IT.
YOU KNOW? ANYHOW,
'CAUSE IT'S THROUGH, UH, ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION IN THE BYLAWS.
SO WE'D HAVE TO, THEIR BYLAWS SET THE SIZE OF THE BOARD.
BUT, BUT I THINK WE CAN ALWAYS, WE CAN AMEND THEM.
RIGHT? THERE'S A PROCESS TO AMEN.
THERE'S A PROCESS TO AMEN THEM.
I HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BOTTOM, BUT THEN YOU'D HAVE TO AMEN THAT FOR THE QUORUM.
WHICH IS WHY ON THIS OTHER NONPROFIT THAT WE ARE JUST CREATING, THAT WE'RE GONNA, THE COMMISSION CONTINUES TO HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO AMEND THOSE, RIGHT? THAT IT DOESN'T NEED THE CORE.
ANY CONTROL AMONG THE COMMISSION, RIGHT? WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE DO THAT JUST TO NOT YET THIS, UH, THIS ISSUE.
SO AGAIN, I, UM, COULD, FOR THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING, IF YOU COULD COME TO THE CITY COMMISSION AND, AND REPORT BACK THAT YOU'VE CONTACTED EVERY MEMBER AND WHO WANTS TO AND WHO DOESN'T.
SO THEN WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE THE, THE ONES MINE I DIDN'T APPOINT, THEY'RE ALREADY THERE.
AND, AND I DON'T WANNA TAKE ANYBODY OFF A BOARD THAT WANTS TO SERVE.
AND SO I'VE LEFT THEM THERE AND, AND SO IF YOU CAN LET ME KNOW, I'M HAPPY TO, IF WE CHANGE IT, I'M HAPPY TO ABSORB OTHERS THAT WANT TO OR MAKE NEW APPOINTMENTS.
IF THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO GET DONE, WE'LL GET IT DONE.
AND IS WHAT APPOINTMENT? THE OTHER, ARE THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, UM, ON THAT,
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DANIEL? NO.UM, CAN YOU, I WAS LOOKING FOR IT EARLIER ON THE, UM, AND I FORGOT WHAT IT IS ON THE ANIMAL ADVISORY BOARD.
WHAT EXACTLY IS NEEDS TO BE ON THERE? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I MADE A PICK LAST, UM, LAST MEETING, BUT THEN, UH, DANIEL BROUGHT UP THAT SHE MAY NOT QUALIFY BECAUSE OF THE POSITION.
SO WHAT EXACTLY IS IT? WELL, WE NEED TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT THEIR BYLAWS SAYS OR HOW THAT BOARD WAS ESTABLISHED.
I LOOKED, I LOOKED ON THE, THE ORDINANCES EARLIER, EARLIER, UM, TODAY AND WHEN IT'S STILL THE ONE THAT WE PASSED THAT FRANK AND I PASSED.
UM, SO IT JUST SAYS SEVEN MEMBERS AND THAT'S IT.
IT'S NOT LIKE THE DID WE DID CHANGE IT.
SHANNON, DO YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE MADE SOME CHANGES.
UM, I KNOW WE'VE GOT YVETTE, WE'VE GOT A COUNTY, UH, COUNTY SLASH CITY YOURS, RIGHT? IS THAT COUNTY SLASH CITY, WHICH I FILLED WITH HER.
IT'S A VETERINARIAN, A MUNICIPAL OFFICIAL OR, OR COUNTY OFFICIAL.
IT'S A PERSON WHO OVERSEES DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS OF AN ANIMAL SHELTER.
IT'S A MEMBER OF AN ANIMAL WELFARE ORGANIZATION.
SO I THINK BY STATE LAW REQUIRES FIVE POSITIONS.
SO, AND I THINK THE CITY DID SEVEN, SIX OR SEVEN TO KIND OF CONFORM WITH THE OTHER COURT.
SO I SHOULD, UM, IF I APPOINT JASMINE AS THE OPERATION SHELTER, CAN I DO THAT? SOMEONE WHO OVERSEES DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS AND THAT WOULD FILL THAT AND YOU'VE DONE THE CITY, COUNTY, CITY, AND THEN THE VET, AND THAT'S IT.
SO WOULD BE A MEMBER OF A WELFARE ORGANIZATION, ANIMAL WELFARE ORGANIZATION.
THIS IS THE SHELTER ADVISORY BOOK, THE CORRECT, RIGHT? YES.
SO JODY STRYKER, WHO I APPOINTED, IS A TEACHER.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S A MEMBER OF ANY, ANY ANIMAL WELFARE ORGANIZATION.
NO, SHE ABSOLUTELY IS A CITIZEN.
NO, I APPOINTED HER FOR THE, THE CITIZEN SLOT.
BUT, UH, AND I, AND I HAVE A VACANCY, SO I'M HAPPY TO, IF I MEAN, YOU THINK, UH, JASMINE WILL HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT, YOU MIGHT WANNA ASK HER FIRST.
UM, AND THEN AT THE NEXT MEETING, I CAN DO THAT TO KIND OF MOVE IT FORWARD.
AND THEN THAT OPENS IT UP FOR A CITIZEN.
AND THEN YOU CAN HAVE YOUR CITIZEN APPOINTMENT.
WOULD THAT BE ACCURATE? OR THAT, WHO ELSE HAS A, DO YOU HAVE AN APPOINTMENT? NOT YET.
YOU, YOU ONLY HAVE ONE CITIZEN, RIGHT? I BELIEVE THERE WERE TWO.
AGAIN, I KNOW AMANDA, YEARS BACK BEFORE WE, WE REDID IT.
THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A BREAKDOWN AND IT, IT STATED EXACTLY WHO WAS APPOINTING WHAT POSITION.
SO IT WOULD STATE DISTRICT ONE WOULD APPOINT A VETERINARIAN, DISTRICT TWO WOULD APPOINT, I DON'T THINK WE, SOMEONE WHO OVERSEAS DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS.
SO I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE NOW, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I THINK WE HAVE TWO CITIZENS ON THERE RIGHT NOW.
WELL, NO, BUT THAT MEANS WE'RE ALL, SO THEN WE'RE, SO, SO WE'RE COVERED THEN.
IT, IT DOESN'T, IT MEANS THAT Y'ALL SHOULD RECONSIDER, OR BECAUSE I AM, I HAVE A VACANT AND I, LIKE I SAID, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO FILL WHATEVER THE POSITIONS ARE, BUT IF THERE'S MORE THAN THAT, THEN YOU NEED TO LOOK, BECAUSE THEN YOU, WE ONLY HAVE FIVE VERSUS SIX.
SO I HAVE THE VET AND THEN HERE IT IS.
SO LOOK, IT'S CHAPTER 8 3 2 8 2 3 0.005 OR SECTION 8, 2 3 OF TEXAS HOME SAFETY CODE ANIMAL SHELTERS.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE.
WE HAVE SEVEN SLOTS TOTAL, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
CHECK ONE COUNTY OR MUNICIPAL OFFICIAL CHECK ONE PERSON WHOSE DUTY INCLUDE THE DAILY OPERATION OF AN ANIMAL SHELTER.
AND ONE REPRESENTATIVE FROM AN ANIMAL WELFARE ORGANIZATION, WE DON'T HAVE THAT.
SO THOSE ARE THE TWO SLOTS THAT WERE MISSING.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S FOUR, FOUR REQUIRED FOUR.
BUT WE'RE MISSING TWO OF THOSE STATUTORILY MANDATED SLOTS, WHICH IS THE PERSON WHO RUNS AN ANIMAL SHELTER, A DAILY OPERATION, OR, AND THE ONE REPRESENTATIVE FROM AN ANIMAL WELFARE ORGANIZATION.
AND THEN THE REMAINING THREE ARE JUST, AND I THINK THE MAYOR WAS GONNA, I, I MEAN, I AM HAPPY TO DO EITHER AN ANIMAL WELFARE.
I, I'LL FILL WHATEVER POSITION IT IS.
BUT I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA ASK HER FIRST.
I I, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
OR IF NOT, THERE WERE SOME, I THINK, UM, WONDERFUL PEOPLE THAT CAME TO OUR MEETINGS THAT REPRESENT WELFARE ORGANIZATIONS THAT I WOULD HAPPY TO APPOINT THEM TO.
SO I, I THINK I'VE GOT THAT PART COVERED.
BUT I ONLY HAVE ONE APPOINTMENT LEFT.
SO THAT MEANS THAT AMONGST THE THREE OF YOU, BECAUSE DANIEL AND I HAVE DONE, UM,
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DANIEL'S APPOINTMENT MEETS THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS MINE THAT I HAVE DOES, AND I WILL WITH THE NEXT APPOINTMENT THAT I HAVE, BUT THAT REMAIN, THERE'S ONE REMAINING.SO THAT ONE REMAINING PERSON BETWEEN FORD AND DANIEL, I'M NOT, WHAT IS IT? FORD AND FRANK AND RENE.
SO WE CAN STILL HAVE THE OTHER WELL, I HAVE ONE ON THERE.
YOU ALREADY HAVE ONE AND HE ALREADY HAS ONE.
SO THAT LEAVES YOU, SO THEN YOU WOULD, YOU AND I, IF, IF THEY'RE GONNA KEEP THEIR APPOINTMENTS, UM, THEN YOU AND I WOULD HAVE TO FILL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THEM TO MEET.
DO YOU HAVE SOMEONE? YEAH, I HAVE A CITIZEN.
WHAT'S HER NAME? UH, OH, YOU GOT ONE.
SO FORD FRANK, THAT MEANS WE HAVE THREE SLOTS OPEN.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW THAT ONE, HE'S NOT LISTENING, RIGHT? 'CAUSE I JUST SAID THAT
OH YEAH, WE HAVE THREE SLOTS OPEN.
I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BECAUSE YOU GET ONE MORE AND THEN YOU GET ONE.
SO, SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT YOU AND I HAVE ALREADY APPOINTED HALF OF WHAT'S REQUIRED, THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENT.
AND SO THAT MEANS THAT THERE'S ONE LEFT, WHICH WOULD BE RENIE.
AND THESE TWO ALREADY HAVE THEIR CITIZEN APPOINTMENTS.
MIKE WOULD NEED TO DO AN, OH, MIKE, I'VE FORGOTTEN MIKE NAME.
I'M SORRY MIKE, YOU'RE NOT HERE.
SO MIKE, CAN YOU, UH, CHIME IN HERE? DO YOU HAVE AN APPOINTMENT? UH, NO.
WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO FILL A CATEGORY OR JUST A CONCERNED CITIZEN? WELL, IF YOU COULD FILL A CATEGORY, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
AND THEN RENIE HERE CAN HAVE HIS APPOINTMENT THAT HE APPOINTED LAST WEEK OR LAST MEETING.
AND WHICH CATEGORIES ARE AVAILABLE? THE ANIMAL SHELTER OR A WELFARE ORGANIZATION? UM, AND IF YOU WANT TO APPOINT JASMINE, WHO IS THE SHELTER MANAGER THAT WOULD FIT THE BILL, BUT WE WOULD NEED TO REQUEST HER PERMISSION FIRST AND THEN I WILL SURE, SURE.
DO A WELFARE ORGANIZATION, UM, AND PRESENT THAT AT THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING.
WHO DID YOU APPOINT? UM, UH, MINEVA SIMPSON.
SO WE'RE PUTTING HER ON, SHE'S GIVING GREEN LIGHT.
SO, UM, THAT WAS A DISCUSSION OF THE BOARDS.
[Item 11 - Board Appointments]
OF THE BOARDS.I HAVE ONE, UH, ALVIN MCCLAIN TO REPLACE DELVIN SMYTHE ON THE VETERANS ADVISORY BOARD.
EXCUSE ME, I'M PUT CINDY NAVA ON THE CAPE HARLING AND BEAUTIFUL BOARD.
SHE, UH, YOU GOT HER APPLICATION CORRECT? MM-HMM,
SO DID YOU GET THE APPLICATION FROM THE GENTLEMAN THAT CAME, THAT TALKED TO US AND I SAID I'D LIKE TO APPOINT HIM TO THE KEY PAR IN BEAUTIFUL.
DID YOU GET HIS LAST NAME'S PENA? DID YOU, PENA, CAN YOU REACH OUT TO HIM AND SEE IF I WILL ONCE YOU'RE DOING THOSE PHONE CALLS AND, AND IF THERE'S SOMEBODY, UM, EITHER, I KNOW MIKE SAID HE WOULD, THAT HE'D WANT TO ALSO IF I, IF I AM GOING TO ABSORB OTHERS, BUT IT'D BE GOOD TO HAVE HIS APPLICATION.
I, IT LOOKS LIKE MY BT VAGAS NEEDS TO BE REAPPOINTED ON MY SHEET.
SO I'LL REAPPOINT HIM TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE.
AND I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE, UM, DONE.
FISHER, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? NO.
UM, I WANNA REAPPOINT, UM, ALEXANDRO MUNOZ TO THE KEY PARTNER AND BEAUTIFUL BOARD.
WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M GONNA REAPPOINT BILL HOLMAN AS THE CONSTRUCTION BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS AND APPEALS AS THE ELECTRICIAN ALTERNATE.
AND IF ANYBODY KNOWS A PLUMBER THAT WANTS TO BE ON THERE, LIKE, UM, I HAVE THAT APPOINTMENT IF YOU WANNA SHARE IT WITH ME, IF YOU KNOW OF A PLUMBER THAT WANTS TO BE ON THE BOARD.
FOR WHICH BOARD? FOR I, THAT'S MY CONSTRUCTION BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS AND APPEALS.
SO I HAVE IT FILLED THAT POSITION, BUT IF I'D HAVE PUT A PLUMBER IN THERE, SO YEAH.
IF, IF, IF THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT WANTS TO SERVE YOU, SEND THEM MY LEAVE.
I'VE GOT AN ALTERNATE VACANCY AS WELL ON FOR AN ENGINEER.
IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION SECOND.
WHEN YOU THINK THEY'RE GONNA BE SHORT? I THOUGHT THINK WHAT? THINK MAYBE
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IT'S GONNA BE SHORT.WHEN I WALKED OUTTA CITY HALL WITH THIS ON SATURDAY, TESSIE SAID HOW LONG? I SAID, AH, THREE HOURS
[Item 14 - Adjournment]
OKAY.SO WE DO HAVE ITEMS 12 AND 13, BUT THERE'S NO EXECUTIVE SESSION CORRECT? AMANDA? DARN.