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IT IS NOW FIVE 30.

I'M GONNA GO AND CALL THIS MEETING OF THE CITY COMMISSION TO ORDER, AND WE'LL START OFF WITH THE PRAYER.

SO IF EVERYBODY CAN PLEASE STAND.

DEAR JESUS, AS WE GATHER HERE TODAY TO CONDUCT THE BUSINESS OF OUR CITY, WE ASK FOR YOUR GUIDANCE AND WISDOM TO BE UPON US.

GRANT US THE INSIGHT TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT WILL BENEFIT ALL MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

HELP US LISTEN WITH OPEN HEARTS, TO SPEAK WITH HONESTY, INTEGRITY, AND TO WORK TOGETHER IN HARMONY FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF OUR CITY.

MAY YOUR PRESENCE BE FELT IN THIS MEETING, GUIDING OUR THOUGHTS AND ACTIONS.

AMEN.

AMEN.

OKAY.

PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC, WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVIS.

LIBERTY.

I JUSTICE FOR ALL.

MARK.

IF YOU CAN READ THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST UNDER STATE LAW, A CONFLICT OF INTEREST EXISTS IF A COMMISSION MEMBER OR CERTAIN MEMBERS OF THAT PERSON'S FAMILY HAS A QUALIFYING FINANCIAL INTEREST IN AN AGENDA ITEM.

MEMBERS WITH A CONFLICT OF INTEREST CANNOT PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSION NOR VOTE ON THE AGENDA ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY KNOWN CONFLICTS OF INTEREST TO DISCLOSE AT THIS TIME? NONE.

NONE, NONE.

NONE, NONE.

OKAY.

I JUST WANNA POINT OUT THAT MAYOR SE BODA IS JOINING US ON ZOOM.

AND MELINDA, DO WE HAVE ANY, UM, CITIZEN COMMUNICATION? YES, SIR.

CITIZEN COMMUNICATIONS UNDER STATE LAW, A CONFLICT OF INTEREST EXISTS IF A COMMISSION MEMBER OR CERTAIN MEMBERS OF THAT PERSON'S FAMILY HAS A QUALIFYING FINANCIAL INTEREST IN AN AGENDA ITEM.

THAT'S THE WRONG ONE.

WE JUST, WE JUST DID THAT ONE.

YEAH.

WE OH, CITIZEN.

THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

OH, YES MA'AM.

YOU JUST, OH, I'M SORRY.

SORRY.

IT JUST SAY WHO? OH, OKAY.

SIGNED UP.

YES, SIR.

WE HAVE ONE CITIZEN COMMUNICATION, MR. RON LOZANO.

MR. LOZANO.

THANK YOU.

UH, MAYOR PRO TEM.

UM, I HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION AND, AND I GUESS THE HEADING WOULD BE TRANSPARENCY THAT, UM, FRIDAY Y'ALL DECIDED TO ALTER THE WEBSITE OF THE CITY OF HARLINGEN.

AND THIS MEETING THAT'S HERE AT THE MOMENT, UM, IT'S OBVIOUS THAT ONE OF THE CHARTER THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POSITION FOR THE CITY IS ABSENT.

SO THE PERSON THAT'S REPLACING HER CAN ATTEST TO YOU THAT FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME, THIS MEETING WAS NOT POSTED IN ITS REGULAR PLACE, WHICH IS ON THE FRONT DOORS AT ONE 18 EAST TYLER.

THERE ARE SOME LITTLE GLASS, UH, PARTITION WINDOWS.

AND, UH, IT WAS NOT THERE FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME, AND SO IT PROBABLY DOESN'T MEET THE CONTINUOUS PORTION OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

BUT REGARDLESS, UM, THE MORE RELEVANT ISSUE IS THAT PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO UTILIZE THE CITIZENS' COMMUNICATION FORMAT WERE NOT INSTRUCTED IN CERTAIN NEW FEATURES THAT WERE IMPLEMENTED FRIDAY, MARCH THE FIRST OF THIS YEAR.

SO YOU COULDN'T SIGN UP FOR CITIZEN COMMUNICATION ON THE INTERNET.

I, I WAS ABLE TO DO IT BY PHYSICALLY COMING HERE, AND THAT'S HOW I NOTICED THAT IT WASN'T, THE MEETING WASN'T POSTED FOR TODAY.

SO I THINK TRUMP SHOWED US TODAY THAT ULTIMATELY, SOMETIMES THINGS HAVE TO BE RESOLVED IN A CERTAIN MANNER.

BUT THE MAYOR PRO TEM, THE NON-LAWYER AMONG US ACCURATELY DEPICTS THE OPEN MEETINGS LAW, WHICH IS, UNLESS A QUORUM, AND IN THE CHARTER RIGHT NOW SAYS THREE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION IS GONNA ESTABLISH A QUORUM.

I DON'T RECALL IF IT MIGHT BE TWO MEMBERS.

AND THE MAYOR CAN ALSO DO SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT, WHAT IT MIGHT BE, WHAT TRIGGERS IT, THE GOVERNMENT CODE TITLE V STARTS OUT, THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT WITH DEFINITIONS AS IS ALMOST ALL THROUGHOUT THE STATUTES AND IN THE DEFINITIONS, IT DEFINES WHAT DELIBERATE MEANS.

SO UNLESS A QUORUM GETS INVOLVED IN DELIBERATING WITH THEMSELVES OR WITH A THIRD PERSON SUCH AS MYSELF, THERE IS NOT A VIOLATION.

IF YOU ALL CHOOSE TO BE HUMAN BEINGS OR AMERICANS OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL YOURSELF CITY COMMISSIONERS.

SO ONE OF YOU ON THE PODIUM, AND I HAVE A DISAGREEMENT, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S A METHOD EVENTUALLY FOR THAT TO BE RESOLVED.

BUT FINALLY, I ALSO

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ASK THAT THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE WORKED HARD AS MS. ELIZONDO TRIES TO DO HERE.

AND REGARDING THE BOARD, THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE LISTED IN THE WEBSITE AS A THURSDAY BEFORE THE NEW ONE.

AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN ASSIGN THE COMMISSIONERS THAT APPOINT 'EM.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. LOZANO.

ANYTHING ELSE? NOPE.

THAT'S IT FOR CITIZEN COMMUNICATION, SIR.

OKAY.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER ONE.

OKAY.

DISCUSSING ON RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING TERMS AND CONTIN AND CONDITIONS PERTAINING TO THE FOLLOWING SPORTS LEAGUE CONTRACTS.

WE HAVE THE HARLINGEN UNITED FOOTBALL CLUB, SOUTH TEXAS LITTLE LEAGUE, HARLINGEN, NATIONAL BRONCO, BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL, HARLINGEN, TEXAS BRONCO LEAGUE, HARINGTON, NATIONAL YOUTH FOOTBALL LEAGUE, HARLINGEN ADULT SOCCER LEAGUE, RIO VALLEY AMATEUR SOCCER, HARLINGEN, CARDINAL YOUTH SPORTS, AND HARLINGEN WOLF PACK.

MR. MENDEZ.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, MAYOR, MAYOR, PRO TEM COMMISSIONERS.

UH, FOR THE RECORD, UH, MY NAME IS JAVIER MENDEZ.

I'M THE PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR.

UM, SO IF YOU ALL RECALL BACK IN OCTOBER, WE BROUGHT THESE CONTRACTS TO THE CITY COMMISSION FOR CONSIDERATION.

UH, WE DID TAKE 'EM TO THE PARK ADVISORY BOARD.

UM, THERE WAS SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SOME CHANGES.

UM, AND SO THOSE CHANGES, UM, FOR, FOR Y'ALL'S, UM, RECORD, THEY, WE PUT'EM IN RED, UM, EXCEPT FOR, UM, ITEM NUMBER OR, UH, ROMAN NUMERAL ONE.

UM, THAT SECOND PARAGRAPH, WE ADDED THAT AFTER, UM, WE, WE PRESENTED 'EM TO, TO THE, UH, PARK ADVISORY BOARD.

AND THE REASON WE DID THAT IS BECAUSE WE'VE, WE'VE HAD SOME COMPLAINTS FROM SOME INDIVIDUALS ABOUT, UM, TAKING OVER OWNERSHIP OF THE ENTIRE PARK.

RIGHT? AND SO THE ONLY THING THAT THESE CONTRACTS ARE FOR IS JUST FOR THE SPORTS FIELDS.

UM, AND SO DO WE WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR ON THE CONTRACT? UM, IF YOU WOULD, LIKE, I CAN GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THE ITEMS, UM, THAT WE WERE RECOMMENDING TO CHANGE.

UM, AND AGAIN, WE TOOK THESE TO THE PARK ADVISORY BOARD AND THEY, UM, UH, THE LEAGUE REPRESENTATIVES WERE ALSO PRESENT AT THE MEETING.

UM, AND SO THESE WERE SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WE, THAT WE RECOMMENDED.

UM, SO, UM, AGAIN, ROMAN NUMBER ONE, WE DID CHANGE.

WE ADDED, UM, THAT THE OPEN SPACE, OPEN GREEN SPACE, THAT THE CITY PARKS IS OPEN AND AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC ON A FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE BASIS.

UM, ITEM NUMBER THREE IS WE CHANGED THIS TO, UM, TO ADD A $10, UH, REGISTERED FEE TO THE CONTRACT.

SO FOR EVERY PARTICIPANT THEY HAVE IN THEIR, IN THEIR ORGANIZATION OR THEIR LEAGUE THAT'S REGISTERED, WE WOULD COLLECT $10 FROM, UM, THE LEAGUE.

AND SO THIS IS TO HELP US, OF COURSE, PUT BACK INTO THE FIELDS, INTO THE COMPLEX, UM, TO MAINTAIN THEM.

WAS THAT IN BEFORE OR NO, I'M SORRY.

WAS THAT LIKE, DID WE HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR BEFORE? BEFORE IT WAS JUST A DOLLAR FOR THE YEAR? NO, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT BEFORE, CORRECT.

THAT'S NEW.

THAT'S CORRECT.

UM, THEN THE NEXT CHANGE I HAVE HERE IS LETTER K, UM, ON PAGE TWO.

UM, AND SO THIS STATES THAT THE CITY SHALL SQUARE AT MARK FIELDS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SEASON, AND THE LEAGUE SHALL DRAG IN MARK FIELDS FROM THAT POINT FORWARD.

UM, AND AGAIN, WE BROUGHT A LOT OF THESE, UM, SUGGESTIONS TO THE BOARD AND TO THE LEAGUES JUST BECAUSE, UM, THERE WAS MORE REQUEST, UM, AND THERE WAS LESS STAFF.

RIGHT? AND SO, UM, SO IT WAS, IT WAS BECOMING ENC CUMBERSOME OF, OF OUR STAFF, UM, THAT MAINTAIN ENTIRE PARKS AND OTHER, OTHER SITES, UH, TO BE AB TO BE OUT THERE, UH, STRIPING AND, AND DRAGGING AND SO ON.

UM, AND THEN ON, UH, LET'S SEE.

UH, JUST QUICK QUESTION.

YES.

WE CAN GO RIGHT THROUGH IT.

HAVE YET, SO ARE ALL THE CONTRACTS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

SO EXCEPT, EXCEPT FOR THE TY A SO TY A, THEY, ALL THEY DO IS THEY JUST USE THE FIELD FOR PRACTICE.

THEY DON'T ASK US TO STRIPE, THEY DON'T ASK US TO TURN ON THE LIGHTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

WHICH ONE'S THAT? EXCUSE ME.

TY A THAT IS THE LAST ONE.

THE WOLF.

THAT WOULD BE FINE.

OKAY, GOT IT.

HARDING AND WOLF PACK, SO, OKAY.

ALL THEY DO IS PRACTICE OUTER FIELDS.

THEY DON'T HAVE GAMES THERE.

THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING.

NO.

SO THOSE ARE THE MULTIP OR THE YEAH, I GUESS MULTI-PURPOSE FIELDS THAT ARE AT THE SPORTS COMPLEX UP FRONT.

UM, THERE'S, WE USE, UH, SECURITY LIGHTS THAT ARE, THAT AP PROVIDES.

UH, SO THEY'RE NOT REALLY SPORTS LIGHTING.

UM, AND SO OF COURSE WE MOW IT AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT WE DON'T MAINTAIN IT.

WE

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DON'T STRIPE IT.

UM, OTHER THAN MOWING, OF COURSE.

AND WE'RE STILL GONNA CHARGE THEM $10 A PERSON.

UH, I DON'T, DO WE? YES.

SO EVERYONE'S GETTING CHARGED AT $10? CORRECT.

OKAY.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING I RECALL, UH, IS THAT WE, YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO ARREST OUR FIELDS TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN 'EM, DO THOSE THINGS.

UH, I DON'T SEE ANYWHERE.

I HAVEN'T SEEN IT.

UH, AND PLEASE DIRECT MY ATTENTION.

IS THERE ANYWHERE IN HERE THAT SAYS THERE'S CERTAIN TIMES OF THE YEAR THAT THEY'RE NOT, THESE LEAGUES CANNOT USE THE FIELDS JUST 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE DOING THAT MAINTENANCE? I DON'T THINK WE, WE ADDED THAT TO, UM, TO THE CONTRACT, BUT WE CERTAINLY COULD IS, IS, UM, YOU KNOW, RESTRICT THEIR, THE USE.

UM, JUST DEPENDING ON, 'CAUSE A LOT OF THE LEAGUES, YOU, THEY DO, UH, RUN YEAR ROUND, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, SOCCER DOES THEY, THEY PLAY YEAR ROUND.

SO, UM, ESPECIALLY SINCE, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO MAIN, IF WE DO UPGRADE THOSE, THOSE RENOVATE THOSE FIELDS, WE DO WANT TO DEFINITELY, UM, LET THOSE FIELDS REST.

AND SO BASED ON YOUR EXPERIENCE OR YOUR STAFF'S EXPERIENCE, HOW LONG SHOULD THE FIELDS REST THROUGHOUT THE YEAR? WELL, WE PROBABLY WANNA GIVE 'EM AT LEAST 90 DAYS.

RIGHT? THREE MONTHS, UM, OUTTA THE YEAR TO, TO REST.

MM-HMM.

, IS THAT, IS THAT GONNA BE LIKE CONTINUOUS OR YOU CAN DO ONE MONTH HERE OR ONE MONTH HERE? OR WHAT DO YOU WELL, WHAT WE, UM, I MEAN, WE WANT TO GO IN THERE AND, UM, BECAUSE IF Y'ALL RECALL, WHEN, WHEN I DID THE PRESENTATION TO Y'ALL, WE WANTED TO CREATE A, A, UM, A, UH, CREW THAT WOULD JUST TAKE CARE OF THE SPORTS FIELDS, RIGHT? SO WE ALSO WANNA DO IS WE ALSO WANNA BUY SOME EQUIPMENT, UM, TO BE ABLE TO, TO MAINTAIN THOSE FIELDS, RIGHT? SPECIFIC EQUIPMENT FOR, FOR MOWING AND SPECIFIC EQUIPMENT, FOR THE HYDRO SEEDING AND FOR FERTILIZING AND EVERYTHING ELSE, RIGHT? SO, UM, SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANNA TRY TO IMPLEMENT.

UM, BUT THOSE, SO YOU WOULD NEED, YOU WOULD NEED TO STAGGER THE PERIODS FOR, LIKE, YOU WOULDN'T DO CLOSE ALL OF 'EM AT THE SAME TIME? WELL, THERE'S SPECIFIC TIMES OF THE YEAR THAT WE WANT TO DO THIS, RIGHT? SO IT'D BE DURING THE SPRING, UH, ESPECIALLY IF WE WANT TO OVERSEE THE FIELDS.

UM, JUST BECAUSE OF THE USE DURING THE FALL, UH, WE WANNA SEED THEM, YOU KNOW, FERTILIZE THEM AND, AND THEN, UM, AERATE 'EM.

AND SO IT'S BEST TO DO THOSE DURING SPRING TIME, JANUARY, MARCH KIND OF THING, MAYBE? YES.

MM-HMM.

, JAVI, THIS CONTRACT IS FROM MARCH TO SEPTEMBER.

IS THAT, UM, INTENTIONAL? WILL THAT, THAT REST TIME BE AFTER SEPTEMBER? YES.

SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS, UM, WE WANT THEM TO, TO ALL, UH, START AND END AT THE SAME TIME.

AND SO OUR, OUR INTENTION WAS TO HAVE THEM RUN FROM OCTOBER 1ST THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, UM, AND THE CONCURRENT WITH THE, THE FISCAL YEAR.

SO THEN, NO, IT'S NOT FOR THE REST.

UM, PERIOD.

WHEN WILL THAT BE THEN? WHAT IS, WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION? SO WE WOULD, UM, WITH Y'ALL'S APPROVAL, THEN WE WOULD, UH, BRING THEM BACK IN SEPTEMBER, UM, FOR APPROVAL TO DO THE FULL ONE YEAR.

OKAY.

AND THEN IN THAT CONTRACT, THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD PUT IN THAT THREE MONTH, JANUARY THROUGH MARCH, JANUARY 1ST THROUGH MARCH 1ST, THE FIELDS CANNOT BE USED.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

AND THAT WOULD BE ALL FIELDS? THAT WOULD BE ALL FIELDS.

IS THAT ENOUGH TIME FOR YOU TO BRING BACK THE GRASS? I THINK SO.

I, I, I'M SORRY, I CAN'T HEAR YOU WANNA COME UP.

SO I THINK HE'S SAYING IS THAT DEPENDING ON THE SPORT, RIGHT? SO THERE'S, THERE'S SEASONS FOR DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT SPORTS, RIGHT? SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THEY WOULD, THOSE WOULD HAVE TO, UM, BE, YOU KNOW, UH, SPORADIC, RIGHT? THEY WOULDN'T BE, THEY WOULDN'T FALL IN THE SAME SO YOU TIME OF THE YEAR.

SO YOU WOULD'VE STAGGER SOME OF THOSE.

YES.

YEAH.

DEPENDING ON THE SPORT IS WHAT, SURE.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

SINCE ALL OF THIS, ALL THESE CONTRACTS ARE BASICALLY, ESSENTIALLY THE SAME.

UM, WE BRIEFLY, EARLIER DOWNSTAIRS, UM, BEFORE I CAME UP, I OVERHEARD, WERE YOU ABLE TO ATTEND THAT, THAT, UH, YOUTH FOOTBALL ON WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY OF LAST WEEK? NO, NO, SIR.

I DROVE BY THERE.

I WAS RUNNING LATE.

THAT WAS PACKED.

AND I SAW KIDS ALL OVER THE PLACE, AND I'VE BEEN THERE BEFORE BECAUSE I, OBVIOUSLY I GOT INVITED, UM, OR I WAS TOLD ABOUT IT, AND I DID GO, I DIDN'T SEE ANY FENCING THERE AT THAT TIME.

SO IF WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY FENCES, THEN FENCING, DO WE HAVE FENCING NOW? HOW, HOW ARE WE GONNA PROTECT THOSE FIELDS IF IT'S GONNA BE AN OPEN PARK?

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OPEN FIELDS, OKAY, IF IT'S IN THE FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE AND, AND, AND I SEE KIDS RUNNING ALL OVER THE PLACE, HOW ARE WE GONNA SECURE THAT PARTICULAR PARK FROM SOMEBODY ELSE COMING IN? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO BE ABLE TO SECURE THAT ONCE YOU DO THE, THE STRIPING? NOBODY ELSE TAKES ADVANTAGE OF THAT.

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO BE ABLE TO SECURE THE FACT THAT YOU WANT TO GIVE A A, THE GRASS A MONTH OR TWO MONTHS? YOU KNOW? HOW ARE YOU GONNA DO THAT? WELL, I MEAN, IS VISTA PARK THE ONLY ONE THAT'S, THAT'S ON HERE? NO.

THERE, IT'S ALL THE PARKS.

SO WILSON SPORTS COMPLEX HOS AND SOCCER COMPLEX, AND ALL OF THOSE DO HAVE SOME TYPE OF SECURITY, RIGHT? NO.

A AROUND HIM.

NO.

SO HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE SECURE THAT IF, DO WE TALK TO, LET'S SAY, UM, I'M GONNA SAY ATMO ATMO, HE'S WITH A SOCCER.

YES.

AND KIDS ARE GONNA BE PLAYING OUT THERE.

IF HE GETS THERE IN THE FIELD IS OCCUPIED, WHAT DOES HE DO? SO HE, HE WOULD ASK THEM TO LEAVE, UM, BECAUSE HE HAS A CONTRACT WITH, WITH US FOR, FOR A SPECIFIC DATE AND SPECIFIC TIME.

AND SO SOME OF THE LEAGUE REPRESENTATIVES HAVE CALLED PD, UH, OR THEY'VE CALLED US, OF COURSE, UM, LETTING US KNOW THAT THERE'S PEOPLE OUT THERE, UM, PRACTICING OR WHATEVER.

AND SO I'VE, I'VE TALKED TO THEM PERSONALLY AND ASKED THEM TO, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, MOVE FROM THE FIELDS.

THEY CAN OPEN, THEY CAN USE THE GREEN SPACE, RIGHT? UH, TO PRACTICE AND DO OTHER THINGS, BUT NOT THE FIELDS.

DO YOU SEE A CONFLICT BETWEEN PEOPLE SAYING, HEY, IT'S, IT'S A PARK AND WE SHOULD BE PERMITTED TO BE HERE, AND YOU'RE GOING TO COME OUT AND SAY, HEY, WE GOT A CONTRACT.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT THAT FIRST RED LINE IS IN SECTION ONE.

THAT'S WHAT THAT'S FOR.

OKAY.

SO I DON'T, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A CONFLICT.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE IS THAT THE CITY'S PROTECTED.

SO THAT'S WHY WE, WE ENTER INTO THESE AGREEMENTS WITH THESE ORGANIZED LEAGUES.

UM, IF THERE'S, IF THERE IS ORGANIZED ACTIVITIES OUT THERE, WE OF COURSE DEFINITELY WANNA KNOW AND, AND, UH, LET THEM KNOW THAT, UH, ONE, THEY CAN'T BE OUT THERE, UM, IF THEY'RE ORGANIZED OR THEY BELONG TO AN ORGANIZED LAKE, UM, THAT THEY HAVE TO, OF COURSE, GET A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY.

BUT IF IT'S A MOM AND POP OR IF IT'S A, YOU KNOW, A TEAM THAT'S JUST PRACTICING, UH, THROWING THE BALL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE, WE LET THAT HAPPEN.

UH, OUT OF ALL OF THESE, HAVE WE EVER HOSTED A, A TOURNAMENT? WE, WE, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE, BUT THE LEAGUES HAVE HOSTED A TOURNAMENT.

I KNOW THAT, UM, OVER VICTOR, UM, VICTOR, UH, HE'S HOSTED TOURNAMENTS.

JERRY HAS HOSTED TOURNAMENTS AT THE, UM, SPORTS, AT THE, UH, WILSON SPORTS COMPLEX.

UM, AND THEN OVER AT THE FOOTBALL, UH, SOCCER HAS HOSTED TOURNAMENTS.

HOW MANY OF THE, UH, PARKS DO YOU SEE, HOW MANY, UH, THE, HOW MANY OF THESE PARTS DO YOU SEE CANNOT HOST A TOURNAMENT? THE ONES THAT ARE LISTED HERE? THE ONES THAT, THAT PERTAIN TO THIS? YEAH, I THINK, I THINK, UH, ALL OF 'EM CAN HOST TOURNAMENTS.

UM, I KNOW THAT, UH, THERE'S ONE, ONE LEAGUE, UM, WHICH IS THE CARDINALS HARD CARDINALS.

UM, THEY, THEY USE OTHER SITES TO PLAY, UM, BECAUSE OF THEIR ORGANIZATION THAT THEY BELONG TO REQUIRES, UH, CERTAIN CRITERIA.

AND SO THAT PARK VEST DOESN'T MEET THOSE, THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

AND SO THEY PLAY ELSEWHERE, BUT THEY PRACTICE THERE AT VESTO.

WHERE DO THEY PLAY? WHERE DO THEY HOST THOSE TOURNAMENTS? I, I BELIEVE THEY HOST 'EM AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

IS THAT, IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH, BUT WE HOST THEM THERE BECAUSE VESSEL'S NOT, UH, COULD, COULD YOU, COULD YOU STAND UP, UH, COME TO THE MIC, PLEASE.

I, I SAID, UH, MY NAME'S ABEL CASTILLA, BY THE WAY.

I'M SURE Y'ALL KNOW ME.

BUT, UM, THE REASON WHY WE HOST THEM AT THE MINI STADIUM IS 'CAUSE VESSEL'S NOT UP TOO PAR TO HOST GAMES THERE.

WE, WE, I KNOW, UH, I DON'T MEAN TO THROW YOU UNDER THE BUS GATE, BUT YOU DID PROMISE ME THAT ABOUT A YEAR AGO, THAT WE WOULD HAVE A CONCESSION STAND THERE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE SOMETHING ORGANIZED OUT THERE.

AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE, THE ONLY WAY WE FUND OURSELVES IS THROUGH REGISTRATION, YOU KNOW? AND, UH, I MEAN, WE WE'RE BRINGING A LOT OF KIDS BACK OUT TO SPORTS OUT HERE,

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AND, AND I KNOW WHAT I, I SAT ON THE PARKS BOARD FOR A WHILE, AND THEY'VE BEEN SAYING THAT THEY'RE GONNA DO THIS FOR YEARS, EVEN PRIOR TO COVID.

AND IT'S THE SAME STORY.

AND NOTHING GETS DONE AS FAR AS LIKE THE FIELDS GETTING IRRIGATED AND FERTILIZED AND THIS AND THAT.

AND, AND, AND IT'S JUST, IF, IF WE SHUT DOWN THESE SEASONS THAT WANNA PLAY YEAR ROUND, ALL THESE KIDS I CAN VOUCH FOR ALL THESE SPORTS LEAGUES, THOSE KIDS ARE GONNA GO PLAY IN EDINBURG.

THEY'RE GONNA GO PLAY IN WESTCO.

THEY'RE GONNA GO PLAY IN BROWNSVILLE.

THEY'RE, WE'RE GONNA LOSE ALL THOSE KIDS TO OTHER CITIES VERSUS BUILDING OUR HARDING AND YOUTH KIDS UP BUILDING THEM STRONG.

I THINK, UM, I, I, I'VE INVITED JAVIER.

I'VE INVITED LUPE, THE SEVERAL PARKS BOARD TO SEVERAL CAMPS THAT WE HAVE.

NOT ONCE HAVE THEY COME OUT THERE TO SAY, HEY, WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP YOU GUYS? WHAT CAN WE DO TO WORK TOGETHER AND BUILD UP OUR YOUTH PROGRAMS HERE IN HAREN? IT'S ALWAYS LIKE MORE AND MORE DIFFERENT REGULATIONS THAT THEY WANT TO PUT, INSTEAD OF SAYING, WHAT CAN WE DO TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS? YOU KNOW, LIKE, LET'S KEEP HARLINGEN THE NUMBER ONE SPORTS AND BASEBALL, SOCCER, FOOTBALL, GOLF, EVERYTHING.

WE, WE, WE WANT TO BE THE LEADERS IN THE VALLEY.

IF YOU HAVE A GOOD FOOTBALL TEAM, YOU HAVE A GOOD SOCCER BASEBALL TEAM FOR THE VALLEY, EVERYBODY'S GONNA WANT TO COME PLAY IN HAREN.

IF YOU'RE MOVING FROM ANOTHER TOWN OVER HERE WHERE HARDEN'S KNOWN FOR FOOTBALL, HAREN, MY DAUGHTER'S BEEN PLAYING SOCCER FOR ONE'S AT UT AUSTIN.

SHE'S A SOPHOMORE, BUT YOU KNOW, THE SOCCER, THE GIRLS' SOCCER TEAM, THEY'VE GONE, WHAT, 16 IN ONE, 15 IN ONE? HOW MANY SEASONS FOR THE PAST SIX YEARS? THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF.

Y'ALL HAVE GIVEN 'EM AWARDS UP HERE, BUT WE HAVE TO KEEP OUR SOCCER PROGRAMS STRONG.

WE HAVE TO KEEP OUR FOOTBALL PROGRAMS, BASEBALL PROGRAMS, NOT CLOSE 'EM DOWN FOR THREE MONTHS.

YOU KNOW, TO ME, THAT'S THESE KIDS, SOME OF THESE KIDS, THAT'S THE ONLY HOPE THAT THEY HAVE.

THE ONLY THING THAT KEEPS 'EM FROM BEING ON THE STREET GOOFING AROUND, YOU KNOW, GETTING IN TROUBLE IS KEEPING 'EM SOME TO DO SOMETHING AFTER SCHOOL.

COME TO PRACTICE, COME TO, YOU KNOW, A GAME.

YOU KNOW, THEY GET OUR KIDS, WE TELL 'EM TO WEAR THEIR, THEIR GAME DAY JERSEYS ON FRIDAYS.

THEY WEAR THOSE JERSEYS WITH PRIDE, YOU KNOW, THEY GO OUT THERE AND, AND OTHER KIDS, THEY WANT, THEY, THEY, THEY SEE THAT.

AND THEY, THAT'S, THAT'S ABOUT BUILDING THE TRADITION.

SO WHEN THEY GET TO MIDDLE SCHOOL, THEY GET TO HIGH SCHOOL.

THEY HAVE THAT TRADITION ALREADY.

AND, AND, YOU KNOW, PUTTING SOME OF THESE, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY WANNA TO, TO, YOU KNOW, THE $10.

I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND.

I I'M FINE WITH THAT, BUT, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR, EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE ON THE SAME PLAYING FIELD, YOU KNOW? UM, I KNOW LIKE WITH TEXAS SPORTS, OUR, OUR LEAGUE, SORRY, I TOOK OVER THE MIC, BUT OUR, OUR, OUR LEAGUE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE STARTED OFF LAST, UH, LAST SPRING WITH NINE, NINE ORGANIZATIONS.

RIGHT NOW, WE'VE GROWN TO 22 ORGANIZATIONS.

THEY, THEY KEEP ASKING ME, ABEL, CAN YOU HOST IN HAREN? CAN YOU HOST, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, VEST PARK WOULD BE A GOOD PARK TO HOST.

THERE'S THREE FIELDS THAT WE CAN HAVE THREE GAMES GOING ON AT ONCE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A PROPER FACILITY THERE.

THERE'S THE, THE GATING IN, IN THE BACK IS, IS, IS WIDE OPEN.

THE WAY THEY PUT THE FENCE ON THE FRONT, THEY COULD HAVE MOVED IT 15 FEET BACK AND THEY COULD HAVE HAD PROBABLY 30, 40 MORE PARKING SPOTS SO PEOPLE CAN, CAN COME.

SO INSTEAD OF HAVING, HOSTING THOSE GAMES HERE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE SENDING ALL THAT BUSINESS TO MACALLAN SPORTS PARK, TO BROWNSVILLE SPORTS PARK, WHERE ALL THOSE PEOPLE COULD COME OVER HERE, HAVE DI YOU KNOW, LUNCH HERE, DINNER HERE.

I KNOW SOME OF THE TIMES THAT WE WENT TO PLAY IN, IN MACALLAN, UH, LAST SPRING, THERE WAS A WEEKEND TOURNAMENT.

SOME OF OUR COACHES WERE RENTING THE A, UH, AIRBNBS JUST TO STAY THE NIGHT.

SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO BE DRIVING BACK AND FORTH.

'CAUSE WE WERE THERE ALL DAY.

I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S BUSINESS THAT HARLINGEN COULD BE GETTING.

AND I'M SURE IT GOES FOR SOCCER.

I KNOW JERRY HAS, HAS SOME TOURNAMENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE, WE NEED, WE NEED TO BUILD UP, TAKE CARE OF OUR, OUR OUR, OUR PROGRAMS HERE.

AND I THINK THAT OUR PARKS BOARD NEEDS TO GET ON THE SAME PAGE WITH US, START COMING OUT MORE, START SEEING WHAT THEY CAN DO TO HELP US GROW.

NOT PUT MORE REGULATIONS ON, ON US.

I MEAN, I, I KNOW, I'M SURE JERRY WORKS.

UH, LEO WORKS.

I WORK AT UPS.

I KILL MYSELF ALL DAY JUST TO MAKE IT OUT TO PRACTICE AND GET THERE BY SIX 30.

I DON'T GET HOME TILL 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT SOMETIMES.

AND THEN BY THE TIME I TAKE A SHOWER AND GO TO BED, I'M, I MEAN, I'M DYING JUST TO WAKE UP THE NEXT DAY AND GO OUT THERE TO GO COACH AND, AND EXCUSE ME, RUN A LEAGUE.

IT, IT'S TOUGH.

HOLD UP, HOLD UP.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE A RUNAWAY, UH, FREIGHT TRAIN HERE.

SORRY.

UH, I, I NEED TO, UH, I, I, I HAVE A, I KNOW YOU STARTED, YOU MENTIONED NINE TO 22 ORGANIZATIONS.

MM-HMM.

.

HOW MANY TEAMS ON, ON THAT ORGANIZATION? EACH, EACH ORGANIZATION HAS FOUR DIVISIONS.

FOUR DIVISIONS.

AND THEN THOSE DIVISIONS THROUGH TEXAS SPORTS, IT'S REQUIRED TO HAVE MINIMAL 20 KIDS.

20 KIDS.

SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT 80 KIDS FOR ONE ORGANIZATION? MM-HMM.

, UH, THAT GENTLEMAN IS, AND LADIES, THAT'S 1,760.

UH, UM, ARE

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THESE ALL FROM HARLINGEN? NO, THOSE ARE COMING.

THOSE ARE, THAT'S, THOSE ARE LIKE LOS FRESNOS TEAMS, PORT ISABEL TEAMS. BUT THEY COME, THEY WANTED US TO HOST HERE IN HARINGTON.

SO WE'D HAVE ALL THOSE PEOPLE COMING HERE TO HARLINGEN PLAYING HERE AFTER THE GAMES, EATING HERE, YOU KNOW, SPENDING MONEY HERE.

THAT'S, I MEAN, IT WOULD BE BRING BUSINESS HERE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE PROPER FACILITIES TO DO.

SO.

EVEN IF WE WERE TO PLAY AT THE CARDINAL MINI STADIUM, THEY HAVE ONE GAME READY FIELD, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO IT'S, IT WOULDN'T WORK THERE.

BUT AT VESTO WE COULD, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE PROPER, YOU KNOW, CONCESSIONS THE GATE THE WAY THE, THE, THE GATES SET UP.

BUT NOW, LIKE I'M SAYING, WE HAVE TO GO TO BROWNSVILLE.

WE HAVE TO GO TO MACALLAN TO PLAY BECAUSE OUR FACILITY HERE IS NOT PROPERLY.

OKAY.

SO, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, THIS IS, THIS IS YOURS.

WHERE DO WE STAND ON SOCCER? IN SOCCER, YES.

I KNOW, LIKE THE PAST SEASON THERE WAS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY GUYS, THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE TIME.

UH, MY NAME IS ARTURO PACIO.

I'M THE PRESIDENT OF HAR UNITED FC.

WE ARE BASICALLY TAKING OVER ARROYO AND, UH, RIGHT NOW OUR REGISTRATION STANDS AT 680 PLAYERS WITH ABOUT 50 TO 60 COACHES THAT WE'D LIKE TO CONTINUE TO GROW.

UH, 'CAUSE WE NEED COACHES.

SO WE NEED VOLUNTEERS.

UH, JUST WITH THAT SAID, THIS IS THE SIZE OF OUR CLUB.

WE EXPECT THAT MAYBE BY THE FALL WE'LL BE AT A THOUSAND.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT $10 FEE.

WE'RE A BRAND NEW CLUB.

WE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE WENT OUT THERE AND BOUGHT SOME DIRT.

YOU KNOW, WE BROUGHT TWO VOLUNTEERS TO, TO HELP US WITH LITTLE TRACTORS WITH THE APPROVAL OF PARTNERSHIP WRECK, UH, PARKS AND REC.

WE WENT OUT THERE TO TRY TO LEVEL SOME OF THE FIELDS THAT WE HAVE.

WE ARE RESTRICTED FROM USING FIELDS, SOME OF THE FIELDS DUE TO THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS ARE GONNA START, YOU KNOW, WORKING ON THEM.

UH, SO WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GONNA WORK OUT ONCE WE START OUR PRACTICES AND THEN OUR GAMES.

WE DO HAVE THE FIELDS FOR OUR GAMES.

SO RIGHT NOW, AT THIS MOMENT, WE ARE TRYING TO TRY TO GET THOSE WORKED OUT.

UM, THE THING IS THAT THE CLOSURE OF THE THREE MONTHS IS, UH, IF, IF IT'S SPEC, IF IT'S ESTIMATED TO BE AFTER SEPTEMBER, WE, WE START OUR SEASON, OUR FALL SEASON IN SEPTEMBER.

AND IT'S ONE OF THE MAJOR SEASONS FOR OUR TEAMS, ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT ARE SELECT, UH, AT THE END OF THEIR SEASON.

THEIR, THEIR RECORDS ARE TABULATED BY TISA AND THEN, UH, ALLOCATED TO THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP TOURNAMENTS.

AND, UH, THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, $600 TOURNAMENTS.

SO YOU HAVE, THEY HAVE TO GO TO, AND THEY DO A REGIONAL TOURNAMENT WITHIN THE VALLEY, AND THEN THEY HAVE, IF THEY WIN THAT ONE, THEY GET TO TRAVEL TO SAN ANTONIO AND THEN MAYBE AUSTIN AFTER THAT.

UH, BUT THE POINT IS THAT THAT'S, THAT'S DURING THAT TIME THAT WE'RE GONNA CUT MY QUESTION.

UM, YOU HAVE CURRENTLY, YOU HAVE 680 PLAYERS.

YES.

YOU'RE HOPING TO GET A THOUSAND? YES.

WITHIN A YEAR, IF YOU'RE WORKING TOWARD THAT.

WITHIN OUR, OUR GOAL, OUR GOAL IS, IS A THOUSAND IS A THOUSAND.

AND THESE ARE PLAYERS WITHIN HARLINGEN OR SURROUNDING AREAS OF THE WHOLE VALLEY.

I THINK 80% OF IT IS HARLINGEN.

OKAY.

WHERE HAVE YOU GOT, WHERE IN THE VALLEY HAS THESE TOURNAMENTS, UH, TAKEN PLACE IN BRONZEVILLE AND MCALLEN? THE SAME SCENARIO AS, YES, WE DO HAVE A, A, UH, A, I GUESS A COORDINATOR OF A MAJOR, OF A MAJOR CLUB, A MAJOR TOURNAMENT BASED ON OUTTA RUN ROCK THAT ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS WAS PARTICIPATING AT RUN ROCK.

AND, UH, BASICALLY GOT A, UH, SECURED A MEETING FOR THAT, UH, PERSON TO COME DOWN AND MEET WITH US.

BUT HE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE OUR FIELDS AND EVALUATE THEM TO SEE IF HE'D BE ABLE TO HELP US OUT AND BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT TOURNAMENT IN HAR IN THE VALLEY.

AND THIS IS A TOURNAMENT, UH, THAT IS HOSTED AROUND TEXAS, AND THE WINNER OF THAT TOURNAMENT GETS TO GO TO, UH, LAS VEGAS TO FIGHT FOR THAT CHAMPIONSHIP.

IT'S BASICALLY THE WINNERS OF ALL THE TOURNAMENTS THAT THEY GO TO LAS VEGAS TO GO PLAY AGAINST EACH OTHER.

I'M GONNA ASK YOU ONE QUESTION THAT I, HOW DO YOU SEE OUR FIELDS? THEY'RE NOT, I DON'T, PERSONALLY, WE WENT OUT THERE TO FILL THE HOLES FOR FIELD SEVEN, EIGHT, AND NINE, AND WE SPENT SIX HOURS JUST FILLING TWO OF THEM.

UH, I WALKED IN THERE TWO WEEKS LATER, WHICH I KNOW THAT THERE'S OTHER TEAMS THAT, THAT ARE NOT REGISTERED WITH US.

THEY'RE OUT THERE PRACTICING AND, WELL, WE CAN'T STOP THAT.

THEY'RE NOT FENCED.

BUT, UH, I WENT BACK THERE AND IT SEEMED LIKE WE DID VERY LITTLE, UH, VERY LITTLE TO THE FIELDS.

WE NEED MORE.

AND SO WE'LL STILL CONTINUE TO DO IT.

UH, WE HAD A GAME ON FIELD ONE.

NO, I FIELD FIELD TWO THAT IS FENCED IN.

BUT, UH, OUR COACH, UH, BROUGHT IN A, UH, WHEELBARROW SHOVEL AND THEN WAS SHOVELING DIRT TO FILL THE HOLES

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TO BE ABLE TO HAVE, TO BE ABLE TO HOST THAT, THAT GAME.

AND THIS IS A GAME WHERE IT'S, UH, 9 5 6 UNITED FROM MACALLAN COMING INTO PLAY WITH US.

BUT IT'S ONLY TWO TEAMS FROM THE VALLEY COMPETING AGAINST TEAMS FROM AUSTIN ROUND ROCK, UH, THE CENTRAL TEXAS.

AND THEIR ONLY HOME GAME IS THAT GAME RIGHT THERE, ONE GAME.

AND THE REST OF THEIR GAMES, THEY HAVE TO GO OUT OF TOWN.

SO THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME THEY'RE PLAYING IN RUN ROCK.

UH, OUR GOAL IS TO INCREASE THAT LEVEL OF PLAY TO WHERE THEY'RE GONNA COME DOWN HERE, WE WANT THEM, BUT FOR US TO HAVE THAT, WE DO NEED TO WORK ON THOSE FIELDS.

AND IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT DUE TO, YOU KNOW, THE WEAR AND TEAR, IT JUST HAPPENS THAT YOU ALL GAVE US A NICE COMPLEX, AND MONTHS LATER WE HAD A HURRICANE AND THEY'VE NEVER BEEN FIXED SINCE WE'VE BEEN PLAYING WITH CLAY, UH, AND DIRT AND SOME GRASS AND WEEDS FOR THE LAST, I DON'T KNOW, 20, 30 YEARS SINCE THAT HURRICANE CAME DOWN.

AND SO WE'RE STILL OUT THERE.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE PASSION FOR THE GAME AND WELL, NO MATTER WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL PLAY ON THE STREETS IF WE HAVE TO, BUT WE'D RATHER HAVE THE SOCCER COMPLEX.

AND, UH, BUT ANY, THAT'S BASICALLY WHERE WE'RE AT WITH REGARDS TO THE FIELDS.

WE CAN'T HAVE TOURNAMENTS.

THEY ARE GONNA COME, UH, WE ARE GONNA SECURE THAT MEETING WITH THE DIRECTOR OF, IT'S CALLED THE, UH, TIGER TOURNAMENT.

WE'RE GONNA SECURE, AND I WANT THAT TO BE SECURED, TO BRING HIM IN AND HAVE HIM EVALUATE OUR FIELDS.

UH, S STAA DID WANT US TO SEND PICTURES OF FIELD TWO AND THE GOALS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT GAME WAS BE, UH, WOULD BE ABLE TO BE HOSTED IN HARING IT.

IF NOT, THEY WOULD'VE BEEN, THEY WOULD'VE SENT IT TO MACALLAN AGAIN.

BUT, UH, I THINK WE HAD, UH, GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR AYA, THE, THE LEAGUE OR THE ASSOCIATION THAT IS OVERSEEING ALL THE VALLEY LEAGUES THAT ARE, UH, THAT ARE UNDER ESA.

AND SHE HELPED US OUT TO MAKE SURE SHE SECURED THAT GAME HERE IN HARINGTON.

SO SHE KIND OF HELPED US OUT.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF SHE PHOTOSHOPPED THE PICTURES OF THE FIELDS AND THE GOALS TO BE ABLE TO SECURE THAT GAME, BUT IT GOT ACCEPTED BY SISA.

OKAY.

UM, I KNOW IT'S SOCCER AND, AND WE COULD SAY THAT, UH, ANITA QUIN, THEY, YOU GUYS PLAY IN THE SAME FIELD.

YES, I BELIEVE SO.

SO YOU, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ADULT , CORRECT? YES.

AND THEN YOU WOULD ALSO HAVE THE OTHER, UM, UH, RIO GRANDE AMATEUR SOCCER BE PLAYING THE SAME FIELD? NO, THEY PLAY PARK ON SUNDAYS.

COACH, COACH, I HAVE A, I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, SORRY, WERE YOU DONE, FRANK? YEAH, GO AHEAD.

OKAY.

UM, MY QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF HARLINGEN IS COMMITTED TO, TO MAINTAINING AND, AND GETTING THE FIELDS UP TO PAR, AND WE JUST ASK FOR YOUR PATIENCE, BUT WE WANNA PART PARTNER WITH YOU AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT DONE.

AND WE'VE DONE A LOT ALREADY TO, TO GET THE BALL ROLLING, AND WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

AND WE WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND HOST TOURNAMENTS AND, AND JUST, UH, CONTINUE ON.

UM, YOU KNOW, TAKING, TAKING THE REINS WITH, FOR THE PREVIOUS ORGANIZATION HAS REALLY HELPED OUT THE COMMUNITY.

SO I WANNA THANK YOU FOR THAT.

MY QUESTION IS, IN ORDER FOR US TO REALLY DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE ON THE FIELDS, WE DO NEED TO HAVE SOME REST TIME.

BUT I RECOGNIZE THAT EVERY ORGANIZATION'S GONNA BE DIFFERENT.

EVERY SPORT'S GONNA BE DIFFERENT.

SO HOW CAN WE WORK WITH YOU ON THAT? IS DO YOU HAVE, CAN YOU SHARE WITH ME LIKE WHAT, WHEN THE SEASON START AND ENDS? SO THAT WAY I KNOW WHAT YOUR CALENDAR LOOKS LIKE.

OUR TWO MAJOR SEASONS IS THE FALL END OF SPRING.

UH, OKAY.

CAN YOU GIVE ME START AND END DATES? YES.

WE'LL START WITH SPRING RIGHT NOW.

UH, WE, UH, WE'LL BE STARTING APRIL 6TH AND WE'LL END UP IN MAR IN MAY THE LAST WEEK OF MAY.

SO IT'LL BE THE 24TH OF MAY.

IT'S AN, WE ALWAYS HOST EIGHT WEEKS OF, UH, SEASONAL GAMES.

GOT IT.

AND THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE THE SPRING.

AND, UH, OKAY.

IN, IN THE SUMMER, WE DO HAVE ONE MONTH OF SUMMER SOCCER, AND THOSE ARE DURING THE WEEK.

UM, IT WOULD BE MID MAY, MID-JUNE THROUGH MID-JULY.

AND THERE'D BE GAPS IN THERE MID JUNE, UH, MID-JUNE, UH, THROUGH MID-JULY, JUNE, MID-JULY.

OKAY, SO THAT'S FOR YOUR SUMMER? YES.

AND THAT, THAT WOULD BE FOUR, I'M ASSUMING IT WOULD BE FOUR WEEKS.

WE'RE TRYING, STILL TRYING TO PLAN THE SPRING RIGHT NOW, BUT IT WOULD BE FOUR WEEKS WITH TWO GAMES, UH, PER WEEK.

OKAY.

SO SPRING, SUMMER.

WHAT ABOUT FALL? OKAY, THE FALL, UM, IT IS IN AUGUST, BUT I BELIEVE WE START IN SEPTEMBER AND IT WILL END ON, AT THE END OF NOVEMBER.

AND, UH, THE END OF NOVEMBER, UH, THE RECREATIONAL SIDE OF THE CLUB WILL STOP PLAYING, BUT THEN WE STILL HAVE OUR SELECT TEAMS CONTINUING TO MOVE ON FOR PLAYOFFS.

SO IT DOES NOT END IN NOVEMBER.

UH,

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ONLY THE RECREATIONAL SITE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, U THREE ALL THE WAY UP TO U 10.

AND THEN WE STILL HAVE THE U 11, U 10 AND UP 11, 12, 13, AND 14 THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO PLAY.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE A, SINCE WE'RE STILL, WE'RE NEW AND TRYING TO DEVELOP THIS LEAGUE, I, I SEE OURSELVES NOT HAVING A LOT OF THOSE TEAMS YET, BUT EVENTUALLY WE'LL GET 'EM ALL.

SO IT LOOKS TO ME THAT POTENTIALLY IN THE SUMMERTIME YOU'VE GOT A MONTH THAT WE CAN WORK WITH IN TERMS OF USE IN THE SPRING AND THE 24TH OF MAY, AND THEN YOU START SOMEWHERE MID, MID JUNE, SOME DURING THAT SMALL PERIOD OF WINDOW, THERE'S A POTENTIAL TO, TO HAVE A COUPLE OF WEEKS, I GUESS.

IS THAT RIGHT? ABOUT TWO WEEKS, YES.

OKAY.

AND THEN, UM, FROM JULY TO SEPTEMBER, YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING GOING ON? UH, NO.

OKAY.

SO THEN YOUR, YOUR REST PERIOD FOR THE FIELDS WOULD POTENTIALLY BE A COUPLE OF MONTHS, BUT JUST IN A DIFFERENT PERIOD, WHICH WOULD BE, UM, THE LATTER PART OF JULY THROUGH SEPTEMBER 1ST, OR, YES, WE COULD DO THAT.

AND THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE DONE THIS SEASON JUST NOW SINCE WE STARTED, WE, UH, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FULFILL OUR REGISTRATION PROCESS AND, UH, SUBMIT 'EM TO TISA FOR INSURANCE PURPOSES.

WE'RE NOT PRACTICING ON THE FIELDS.

UH, PRIOR TO THAT WE WERE, BUT WE WERE ONLY USING TWO FIELDS AT A TIME, GIVING, UH, TWO FIELDS REST AND THEN, AND THEN TURNING THOSE TWO LIGHTS ON, AND THEN GIVE THE OTHER TWO FIELDS THE REST AS WELL.

SO WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL.

WE CAN ROTATE FIELDS, UH, BECAUSE NOT EVERY, NOT EVERY TEAM IS PRACTICING, UH, PRESEASON.

THE ONES THAT ARE DOING THAT ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO THE CUPS.

WE HAVE SPRING CUPS AND WE HAVE THE FALL, UH, CHAMPIONSHIP.

AND SO THEY'RE VERY LIMITED ON THE NUMBER OF TEAMS THAT WILL BE PRACTICING DURING THE OFF SEASON PERIODS OF THE RECREATIONAL PROGRAM.

SO WE, WE COULD, UH, ROTATE FIELDS OF, OF ONLY TRAIN A PARTICULAR SET AND LEAVE THE OTHERS FOR REST.

AND THAT'LL GIVE 'EM, ACTUALLY, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PULL OFF A THREE MONTHS, UH, TIME FOR, LET'S SAY ONE FIELD AND IT WILL ROTATE IT TO THE NEXT ONE AND GIVE THE OTHER ONE TO MONTHS OF REST AS WE CONTINUE WITH THE PRESEASON PART.

THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU AND JAVIER CAN WORK TOGETHER.

YES.

IS THAT RIGHT, JAVIER? JAVIER, YES.

JAVIER, LET ME HERE ASK YOU A QUESTION.

SHE ASKED WHETHER YOU COULD BE WILLING TO, ARE YOU WILLING TO WORK WITH THE COACH CIO TO FIGURE OUT A SCHEDULE ON RESTING THE FIELD? YEAH, DEFINITELY.

I MEAN, UH, WHATEVER WE CAN GET.

I MEAN, I KNOW THAT LAST YEAR WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TOOK 30 DAYS OUT OF THEIR SEASON, RIGHT? AND SO WE WENT IN THERE AND WE FILLED INTO HOLES, WE AERATED, WE FERTILIZED, UM, OF COURSE IT WASN'T ENOUGH, BUT, UH, WE TOOK WHAT WE CAN GET.

SO, UH, CAN YOU GO FURTHER AND PROVIDE US, OR PRO DO YOU HAVE A TIMELINE AS TO WHEN THESE PE WHEN THESE LEAGUES ARE, ARE IN OPERATION, WHAT FIELDS THEY USE? BECAUSE THAT, THAT WOULD ELIMINATE HALF OF THE STUFF THAT WE'RE ASKING RIGHT NOW.

'CAUSE YOU HAVE A TIMELINE AND YOU KNOW, WHEN HE, WHEN HIS, WHEN HIS LEGS ARE GOING MM-HMM.

WHEN HE HAS THOSE, THOSE GAMES, RIGHT.

AND THEN, UH, CASTANETA, THEN YOU GOT EVERYBODY ELSE.

YEAH, WE HAVE.

SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO FIGURE THAT ONE OUT PRETTY FAST.

YEAH.

SO WE HAVE SCHEDULES.

SO WHAT THEY DO IS THEY PROVIDE, UH, LUPE WITH A SCHEDULE OF, UM, AND THEIR ROSTERS.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE HAD THAT INFORMATION, SO YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SAY SOCCER, THIS IS WHEN THEY'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE A MONTH OR TWO OF REST TIME.

THE SAME THING GOES WITH THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE AND THEN THE BASEBALL FIELDS.

MM-HMM.

, THE ONLY THING I SEE IS THAT SOME OF THIS IS, UH, SOME OF THESE FIELDS ARE NOT SECURE, AND THAT'S A PROBLEM, RIGHT? SO GOING BACK TO YOUR POINT, JAVIER, TOWARDS THE BEGINNING, RIGHT? ESSENTIALLY IS YOU CAN DO IT, YOU JUST NEED THE EQUIPMENT AND THE MANPOWER TO DO IT, RIGHT? RIGHT.

AND SO IDEALLY YOU WOULD WANT SPRING, BUT WORST CASE SCENARIO, IF YOU DON'T GET IT, BUT YOU HAVE THE MANPOWER, YOU CAN PUSH IT RIGHT THROUGH AND WORK WITH THEM.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

AND, AND LIKE SO THE GENTLEMAN SAID, RIGHT, SO THEY, THEY ARE, UM, MOVING FROM FIELD TO FIELD, RIGHT? AND THEY, THEY ARE LETTING SOME OF THE FIELDS REST, WHICH IS GOOD.

UM, BUT I THINK WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY RAMP UP AND THEY GET, YOU KNOW, A THOUSAND KIDS, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE ALL, YOU KNOW, ALL KIDS ON, ON ALL FIELDS, RIGHT? SO IT SOUNDS TO ME THAT WE NEED MORE, MORE FIELDS OF ALL THE DIFFERENT FLAVORS OF THE SPORTS BE

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BECAUSE THE TOWN, YOU KNOW, MOVED HERE 42 AND A HALF YEARS AGO IS 40,000.

NOW WE'RE 80,000.

AND YOU'VE GOTTA GROW EVERYTHING TO ACCOMMODATE EVERYBODY AND EVERYTHING.

SO, SO HOW MANY MILLIONS DO YOU WANT, ? JUST A FEW.

THAT WAS A RHETORICAL QUESTION, BY THE WAY.

.

WELL, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THING THAT, THAT, UM, WHEN WE PRESENTED THIS TO THE BOARD, UM, AND TO THE LEAGUES WAS WE'RE TRYING TO KIND OF FOLLOW SUIT WITH WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING.

OTHER CITIES ARE, ARE DOING ALMOST EVERYTHING THAT'S, THAT'S IN THIS CONTRACT.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UM, APPLYING THIS TO ALL THEIR LEAGUES.

THERE'S SOME CITIES THAT ARE TAKING OVER THE LEAGUES AND THEY RUN THEM THEMSELVES.

AND SO, UM, WE LOOKED AT THAT AS WELL.

YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S GONNA TAKE UP, YOU KNOW, TAKE A BIG EFFORT, UH, AS FAR AS STAFF AND, AND EVERYTHING ELSE IF WE WERE TO DO THAT.

BUT, UM, BUT IT, YOU KNOW, WE UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE, THESE, UH, PROGRAMS ARE FOR THE KIDS.

AND SO WE TRY TO, WE TRY TO WORK WITH THEM AS AS BEST, AS BEST WE CAN.

HOW MANY OF THESE, UH, PARKS DON'T HAVE A CONCESSION STAND? UM, SEE, THIS IS WHAT I'M GETTING TO IS WE HAVE 1700 ON ONE LEAGUE, OR, AND THEN ANOTHER ONE THAT, THAT PUSHING 700, THAT SHOULD BE A THOUSAND, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE OTHER LEAGUES, IS WE NEED TO START HOSTING SOME MM-HMM.

.

AFTER ALL, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE VALLEY.

SO THOSE FOR BROWNSVILLE DON'T HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY TO MISSION AND MCALLEN.

THOSE FOR MCALLEN AND MISSION DON'T HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY TO BROWNSVILLE, RIGHT? SO RIGHT NOW WE, THERE'S TWO, UH, PARKS THAT DON'T HAVE CONCESSIONS.

UH, ONE OF 'EM, OF COURSE, WE GOT FUNDING FOR, TO BUILD A CONCESSION, WHICH IS AT, UH, VICTOR.

UM, AND THEN OF COURSE VEST.

JAVIER, I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, ON THE SECTION, IT'S ON PAGE THREE WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THE LEAKS, CLEANING THE BATHROOMS, UH, IT SAYS, IF APPLICABLE, WHY, WHY IS THAT THERE? WHY DID WE ADD THAT? SO, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, VEST DOESN'T HAVE, THEY HAVE A COMMUNITY RESTROOM.

AND SO WHAT WE DO IS WE MAINTAIN THAT ONE.

SO IF IT'S WITHIN THEIR COMPLEX, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, AT VICTOR PARK, THEY HAVE A RESTROOM THAT'S AT THE BASEBALL FIELDS, UM, THAT THEY MAINTAIN.

THEY MAINTAIN THE CONCESSION.

SO IT'S ATTACHED A ROYAL PARK, THE SAME THING.

THE ONES AT SPORTS FIELD, AT, UH, SPORTS COMPLEX, WILSON SPORTS COMPLEX.

SO THE ONLY ONE THAT DOESN'T IS, UH, IS VESTAL.

SO WE MAINTAIN THAT RESTROOM.

COULD, COULD WE JUST PUT THAT LANGUAGE IN THE VESTAL CONTRACT AND TAKE IT APPLICABLE OUT OF ALL THE OTHERS? BECAUSE SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS I RECEIVED IS THAT THE BATHROOMS ARE IN BAD SHAPE.

MM-HMM.

.

YEAH.

SO I THINK SOMEBODY WANTS TO SPEAK.

DO YOU WANNA GO AND SPEAK UP? UM, I HAVE A QUESTION.

YOU, IF YOU CAN COME TO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE.

YOU JUST NEED THE PRICES, RIGHT? MUSIC, RIGHT.

JUST .

HI, I AM ALIA GARCIA.

I'M WITH THE HAR YOUTH CARDINAL.

UM, I AM A COACH FOR CHEER.

I'M ALSO THE SECRETARY.

UM, ONE THING ABOUT THE RESTROOMS IS BEFORE OUR PRACTICE IS EVEN OVER, THEY'RE CLOSED BEFORE EIGHT.

SO THAT IS A BIG ISSUE, UH, WITH US.

WE DO HAVE A LOT OF LITTLE KIDS.

THEY ALL NEED TO GO RESTROOM.

THEY DRINK A LOT OF WATER, STAY HYDRATED.

OUR RESTROOMS ARE CLOSED.

UM, THEY'RE NEVER CLEAN.

UH, I DO TAKE ALL THE LITTLE GIRLS WITH ME TO THE RESTROOM BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE SEE, UM, TEENAGER, BOYS IN THE RESTROOMS. I'VE SEEN, UM, GROWN MEN IN THE RESTROOMS AS SOON AS I WALK IN, THEY GET OUT, LEAVE.

UH, BUT WE DON'T HAVE OUR OWN RESTROOM.

SO I JUST WANTED TO COME UP AND SAY THAT, UH, OSCAR, CAN WE ADD THAT TO THE PLAN FOR RESTO PARK BATHROOMS, PERSONALIZED BATHROOMS? WE DO THAT.

YES.

UM, SAM, IT, IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT IF THIS IS CITY PROPERTY, THE CITY SHOULD MAINTAIN THE RESTROOMS AND CLEAN.

YES.

AND THEY, THEY, THEY'RE ALWAYS VERY DIRTY.

WE BARELY GOT.

AND WHO CLOSES 'EM AT EIGHT O'CLOCK? I DON'T KNOW.

BY THE TIME WE GO, IT'S BEFORE EIGHT.

THEY'RE ALREADY CLOSED.

WE, I GO WITH THE GROUP OF LITTLE GIRLS.

UH, WE ALL STICK TOGETHER AND THEY'RE CLOSED ALREADY.

AND THEY'RE YES.

BOYS AND MEN IN THE GIRLS' RESTROOM.

YES.

YES.

THEY'RE, THAT'S WHERE YOU DIAL 9 1 1.

YEAH.

OH, WELL, I HAVE, THAT'S SICK.

I CALLED HIM.

UM, I KNOW WE'VE HAD TRIED TO GET IN CONTACT WITH JAVIER AND WE NEVER GET A RESPONSE.

UM, LIKE I SAID, WE DO, UH, COACH THE CHAIR ORGANIZATION.

WE ARE A COMPETITIVE LEAGUE.

UM, WE HAVE A LITTLE ISSUE WITH THIS, UH, CONTRACT.

UH, IT SAYS OPEN, ANY OPEN GREEN SPACES AT CITY PARK IS OPEN AND AVAILABLE TO PUBLIC ON FIRST COME AND FIRST SERVE BASIS.

UM, LIKE I SAID, WE ARE A CITY LEAGUE, UH, UH, A COMPETITIVE LEAGUE.

UH, SORRY.

YOU

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WANNA GO? UH, YES.

GO.

UM, HELLO.

MY NAME IS, UH, SAMANTHA PEREZ.

I AM THE CHEER COURT, UH, CHEER DIRECTOR AND HEAD COACH OF THE HARING AND CAR CHEER.

SO OUR MAIN ISSUE IS THE OTHER TEAM THAT'S PRACTICING.

THEY'RE CALLED, UM, HARDING AND ALL STARS.

THEY'VE BEEN HOSTING TRYOUTS THERE.

THEY'VE BEEN, UH, GETTING OUR, OUR PARENTS GET CONFUSED BECAUSE THEY'RE, WE'RE BOTH THERE.

SO WHENEVER WE HAVE OUR, UM, REGISTRATION GOING ON, OUR PARENTS THINK THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE, UH, THEY'RE COMING TO US, BUT THEY'RE REGISTERING, UM, THROUGH THEM AND THEY DON'T GET A REFUND BACK.

IT'S LIKE, YOU ALREADY REGISTER.

YOU'RE NOT GETTING A REFUND.

SO THEY SPEND A HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS MORE THAN WHAT WE CHARGE OUR PARENTS FOR REGISTRATION UNIFORM, SO ON AND SO FORTH.

UM, WE ALSO, DURING THE FALL, WE, UM, SORRY, , UH, WE ALSO, UH, THEY'RE A COMPETITION.

SO IT'S LIKE HAVING BOTH HIGH SCHOOLS IN THE SAME PARK.

LIKE OUR GIRLS GET, UH, THEY BROUGHT IT UP TO ME ALREADY, LIKE, HEY, COACH, LIKE WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN? UH, THEY'RE LOOKING AT OUR ROUTINE AND WE COMPETE AT THE SAME, UH, WITH TEXAS SPORT.

SO IT'S BEEN HARD.

I MEAN, WE ALREADY TOLD THEM SOMETHING.

UM, OUR, SORRY, PRESIDENT, OUR PRESIDENT, UM, HAS WENT UP TO HER.

WE'VE CALLED HPD ALREADY 'CAUSE THEY'RE ON THE FIELD AS WELL.

UH, WE'VE BEEN USING THE FIELDS AND THEN SHE'S MADE A COMMENT SAY, OH, YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

'CAUSE MY HUSBAND IS A HPD OFFICER.

OKAY.

SO IT'S JUST BEEN LIKE LITTLE INCIDENTS WITH THAT COACH AS WELL.

UH, BUT YOU'RE CHEERLEADING? YES.

BOTH OF YOU? YES.

YES.

MM-HMM? .

OKAY.

WELL, YOU'RE NOT ON THIS LIST OF, OF SPORTS LEAGUE CONTRACTS.

IT'S WITH, UH, HAR IT'S WITH THE HARLINGEN, UH, FOOTBALL CARDINALS.

YES.

WE ALSO HAVE CHEERLEADERS.

IT'S FOOTBALL AND CHEER.

MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

YES.

SORRY.

UM, ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK THAT'S OUR MAIN ISSUE, JUST THEM PRACTICING AND HOSTING TRYOUTS IN THE FIELD.

UM, I HAVE A LITTLE PRINTOUT AS WELL WHERE THEY'VE BEEN POSTING PICTURES ON THE FIELD AND WHENEVER WE GET THERE, IT'S LIKE, THAT'S OUR FIELD.

AND WE BROUGHT IT UP TO THEIR ATTENTION AND SHE KIND OF GETS UPSET AS WELL.

IT CREATES PROBLEMS FOR US AND OUR PARENTS AS WELL.

UM, LIKE I SAID, WE ARE A COMPETITIVE LEAGUE.

OUR GIRLS ALREADY KNOW THIS.

THEY ALREADY, UM, GETTING THEIR MINDSET FOR, WE HAVE, UM, A LITTLE TRYOUT, A LITTLE COMPETITIVE LEAGUE NEXT MONTH.

AND WE ARE TRYING TO, UH, START OUR, OUR, UM, ROUTINE.

ROUTINE, OUR ROUTINE FOR NEXT MONTH.

I THINK IT GOES BACK TO WHERE IT SAYS THAT THE GRASSY AREAS, 'CAUSE NOW WE'RE OPENING IT UP FOR ANY LEAD TO COME IN AND, AND RUN SOMETHING OF IT SAYS THAT THE GRASS AREAS ARE OPEN, PUT IN THE CONTRACT, AND WE HAVE A DIRECT COMPETITOR.

AND THEY'RE LITERALLY RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE GIRLS TRYING TO DO THEIR ROUTINES AND THEY'RE WATCHING THEM.

AND IF, IF WE COULD HEAR THEIR MUSIC AND THEIR, THEIR THEIR CHAT, THEY CAN HEAR OURS.

UM, SO I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR FOR OUR GIRLS.

UH, THEY HAVE VOICE.

OUR OUR OLDER GIRLS HAVE VOICE OUT.

THEY, THEY, UH, COME ON LAST FALL.

THEY'RE HERE IN THE SPRING.

THEY DID POINTS OUT THAT IT'S NOT FAIR THAT THEY CAN SEE EVERYTHING.

UM, IT, WE DON'T WANT THAT FOR THEM.

WE WANNA GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT THERE AND BE CONFIDENT AND GO AHEAD AND CHEER AND COMPETE AGAINST OUR COMPETITION.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH, THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

SO IN RESPONSE TO THAT, THE CONTRACTS DON'T TALK ABOUT, UM, CHEERLEADING.

UH, THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY SAYS THE BASIC USE OF THE FACILITY BY LEAGUE SHALL BE FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROMOTING TRAINING AND PLAYING YOUTH RECREATION, FOOTBALL, AND THE OPERATION OF A CONCESSION, INCIDENTALS SUCH ACTIVITIES.

UM, SO THAT WAS THE REASON THAT WE REALLY DIDN'T MAKE A BIG FUSS ABOUT IT.

WHEN ABEL CALLED ME, UM, AND DURING THE EVENING, AND SO I DID TALK TO THE, UM, THE OTHER GROUP.

I DID TALK TO THE PD.

AND SO I JUST TOLD 'EM THAT THEY NEEDED TO MOVE.

IF THEY WERE PLAYING IN THE FIELDS, THEY HAD TO MOVE TO THE GREEN AREA OR GREEN SPACE AREA.

SO YEAH, IT'S NOT LIKE THE SOCCER FIELDS SHUT DOWN ALL OF VICTOR PARK, RIGHT? LIKE, IT'S NOT LIKE WHERE THE FOOTBALL FIELDS USED ALL OF VICTOR PARK AND SHUT DOWN EVERYTHING.

BUT I DO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THEIR CONCERN IS, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

.

UM, AND GOING TOWARDS, MIKE'S NOT HERE, BUT GOING TOWARDS MIKE'S, UH, WE MAY NEED A GREAT, A SEPARATE CONTRACT FOR THE, THE, THE CHEERLEADERS, THE CHEERLEADER ORGANIZATION SEPARATE AND APART FROM THE FOOTBALL ONE.

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SO THAT THEY WOULD HAVE ESSENTIALLY FIRST AND RIGHT.

BUT EVEN THEN, LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THEY WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO USE THE GREEN AREA.

IT'S NOT LIKE WHEN ABEL'S THERE KIDS CAN'T USE THE PLAYGROUND.

RIGHT.

I KNOW THAT'S DIFFICULT.

ANY RECOMMENDATIONS OR, SO MY THING IS, IT'S A, IT'S A NEED OPERATING.

AND, AND THAT MAY BE THE DISTINCTION, RIGHT? YEAH.

LIKE, LIKE, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, ALL THIS WOULD BE POINTLESS.

'CAUSE THEY'RE ALL LEAGUES HERE.

EVERYBODY'S RUNNING A LEAGUE HERE AND THEY'RE, WE HAD TO DO THINGS THE RIGHT WAY.

COME AND SUBMIT OUR PAPERWORK, OUR INSURANCE, OUR 5 0 1 C3.

AND HERE YOU HAVE A, SOMEBODY JUST COMING AND SAYING, WELL, YOU'RE GONNA USE A GRASS AREA TO RUN OUR LEAGUE.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND, AND I MEAN, I TOOK MY FOOD TRUCK ONE TIME TO REGISTER KIDS OUT THERE AND JAVIER CALLED THE POLICE ON ME.

I, I WAS JUST REGISTERING KIDS AND HE SAYS I WAS MAKING MONEY OFF OF CITY PROPERTY.

THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER CAME INSIDE MY FOOD TRUCK AND THERE'S NOTHING ON, I GO, WE'RE JUST USING THIS AS AN OFFICE BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING OUT HERE TO USE OTHER THAN AN EMPTY FIELD WHERE WE'RE PUTTING TABLES, YOU KNOW? SO HERE WE HAVE A PRIVATE ENTITY, AN ORGANIZATION REGISTERING KIDS, MAKING MONEY.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT BEING HELD TO ANY, THEY NO OR ANYTHING.

THEY CAN JUST SAY, I'M RUNNING A LEAGUE HERE AND I'M USING THIS GRASSY AREA.

SO THAT'S IT.

TOUGH LUCK.

THERE'S NO, NO LANGUAGE IN THIS CONTRACT THAT WE, YOU KNOW, IT STATES THAT I CAN'T RUN A LEAGUE HERE IN THIS GRASS AREA BECAUSE NOW IT'S OPEN TO FIRST COME FIRST SERVE TO ANYBODY.

THAT'S MY THANK YOU ABEL.

MARK, I'D LIKE TO SEE IF YOU CAN GET US AN OPINION ON THAT JUST TO KIND OF GIVE US OUR OPTIONS.

THE, THE CONTRACT DEALS WITH YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH EACH OF, UH, THESE LEAGUES.

UH, IF YOU WANNA IMPOSE A RULE FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT AND LEAGUES THAT WANT TO GO ON PUBLIC PLACES, YOU KNOW, UH, WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.

THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE CAN ADDRESS OUTSIDE THIS CONTRACT.

THAT WOULD'VE TO BE LIKE A SEPARATE ORDINANCE OR SOMETHING.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO THEN MARK, CAN YOU KIND OF PUT US SOME, PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER FOR US TO CONSIDER? YES.

OKAY.

MARK'S WITH OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

SO WE NEED HIM TO LOOK AT THE, I THINK WE ALL, YEAH, I THINK WE ALL AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

THAT IT'S NOT FAIR THAT YOU GUYS ARE PLAYING BY THE RULES AND THESE OTHER PEOPLE ARE NOT.

SO THE THING IS, WE CAN'T REALLY PUT IT IN A CONTRACT OR ANYTHING.

BUT WHAT HE'S GONNA DO IS HOPEFULLY RESEARCH AND SEE WE CAN COME WITH AN ORDINANCE, LIKE A RULE THAT THAT GIVES YOU EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT.

OKAY.

BUT ON TOP OF THAT, WE ALSO NEED THE CITY TO HAVE OUR BACK BECAUSE WE HAVE CALLED THE CITY TO TELL THEM TO REMOVE THEMSELVES FROM THEIR PROPER WAY.

AND NOTHING EVER GETS DONE.

LAST TIME WE HAD A BASEBALL, UH, TEAM OUT THERE PAYING THEIR REGISTER WITH ONLY, ONLY HAS THEIR OWN FIELD PRACTICE.

, WE NEED YOU TO COME TO THE MICROPHONE.

SORRY.

MY NAME IS STEPHANIE CHAVEZ.

UM, I'M NOT GONNA REPEAT WHAT I JUST SAID 'CAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER EVERYTHING I SAID , BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT THEY'RE NOT BEING AC UH, HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

WE NEED THE CITY TO BE ON OUR SIDE AS WELL.

YOU HAVE US SIGNING THIS CONTRACT TO OBEY WHAT'S ON HERE.

YOU HAVE US PAYING A $10 FEE NOW FOR EVERY CHILD THAT'S GONNA BE REGISTERED.

BUT WE HAVE ANOTHER TEAM THAT'S OUT HERE REGISTERING.

KIDS DON'T KNOW HOW MANY GIRLS THEY HAVE, BUT THEY'RE NOT PAYING FEES.

THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE THAT YOU ARE REQUIRING US TO DO.

SO THE SITUATION IS, IS YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES, BUT NOBODY ELSE DOES.

EXACTLY.

AND WE HAVE NOBODY TO HAVE OUR BACK AND THAT HAVE THE CITY TO HAVE.

AND FAIR IS FAIR, YES.

BUT WE HAVE THE CITY TELLING US WHAT TO DO, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE CITY HAVE OUR BACKS.

WELL, IT GOES BACK TO THE, THE CHEERLEADERS GONNA NEED THEIR OWN CONTRACT.

THAT'S WHAT IT COMES TO.

UH, AT LEAST ON THE CHEER SIDE.

VETO IS THE ONLY PARK THAT DOES NOT HAVE A CONCESSION STAND OR A PRIVATE RESTROOM.

OKAY.

SO EVERY OTHER PARK DOES HAVE A CONCESSION STAND THAT THEY CAN FEED OFF AND MAKE MONEY FOR THEIR HEAT.

JUST LEAVING THAT OUT THERE.

THANK YOU.

I, ANYTHING ELSE? I HAVE NOTHING.

ANYTHING ELSE HAVE SPEAK? OKAY, GO.

PLEASE COME TO THE MICROPHONE.

UH, YEAH, MY NAME'S BOBBY DAVIDSON.

I'M THE PRESIDENT OF SOUTH TEXAS LITTLE LEAGUE AT PENDLETON.

I'VE BEEN THE PRESIDENT THERE SINCE 2018 AND INVOLVED WITH IT EITHER AS A PLAYER OR COACH SINCE I WAS FIVE YEARS OLD.

SO IT'S BASICALLY MY WHOLE LIFE.

JUST LIKE JERRY, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT LEAGUE IS HIS BABY TOO.

UH, MY MAIN POINT OF CONTACT IS LUPE.

HE'S BEEN REALLY GREAT WITH HELPING ME WITH ANY KIND OF ISSUES I GOT.

UM, NOT HERE TO THROW ANYONE UNDER THE BUS.

THE THE ONE THING THOUGH IS, UH, THAT THE LINING OF THE FIELDS, THAT, THAT THING, UM, THAT REALLY HURTS.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE ALL VOLUNTEERS.

I CLEAN THE RESTROOM BEFORE I GO HOME AND HAVE DINNER.

MY 7-YEAR-OLD SON HELPS ME CLEAN THE RESTROOM.

WE RUN THE CONCESSION.

IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF WORK.

SO TO LINE THE FIELDS TOO, NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GETTING THERE EARLY EVERY DAY, LEAVING WORK.

THAT'S, THAT'S A LOT.

EVEN HAVING KIDS DO IT, IT, IT'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF WORK.

UM, IF THEY COULD LINE THE FIELDS MAYBE ONCE A WEEK, EVERY MONDAY, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR EVERY ONCE A WEEK, SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE, THAT WOULD HELP A LOT.

AND THEN THE $10 PER PLAYER, THAT IS, THAT'S ASTRONOMICAL.

THAT'S A LOT.

YOU WENT FROM $1 FOR THE WHOLE LEAGUE.

ONE.

NOT PER PLAYER.

$1 FOR THE WHOLE LEAGUE.

AND I UNDERSTAND

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THAT'S, IT'S MORE OF LIKE A SYMBOL OF JUST DOING THE, THE CONTRACT.

AND I'D BE FINE IF IT WAS MORE THAN THAT TO HELP PAY FOR ALIGNING AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT $10 PER PLAYER, THAT'S THOUSANDS.

THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.

WE RAISED OUR A FEE FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE 2016, AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF INFLATION SINCE THEN.

IT WAS $50, WE RAISED IT 10 BUCKS, $60.

IF SOMEONE CAN'T PAY IT'S LITTLE LEAGUE TO COVER IT, WE DON'T MAKE THEM PAY.

IF THEY CAN'T PAY, WE COVER THAT.

THAT COMES FROM SPONSORSHIP.

SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT $60 ENTRY FEE REAL QUICK.

UM, ABOUT $35 FOR A JERSEY INSURANCE IS ANOTHER 10 BUCKS CHARTER THAT WE DO AT LITTLE LEAGUE.

THAT'S MORE ANY KIND OF ALL STARS.

THAT'S JERSEYS FOR, FOR THOSE ALL STAR KIDS THAT COMES FROM THAT MONEY TOO.

AND NOW YOU WANT TO ADD 10 BUCKS ON THAT, THAT THAT'S GONNA GO STRAIGHT TO THE PLAYER.

THAT'S VERY HARD FOR US TO COVER.

UM, WE, YEAH, WE, UH, REPLACED THE SCOREBOARD AT THE MAIN FIELD AND THAT TOOK ME MAYBE TWO AND A HALF YEARS OF SPONSORS TO, TO TRY AND PUT MONEY ASIDE TO DO THAT.

AND ONCE WE PUT THAT SCOREBOARD UP THAT WE PAID FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT, IT'S NOW Y'ALL'S, I HAD TO WRITE SOMETHING THAT SAYS, I GIVE THIS SCOREBOARD TO YOU.

IT BELONGS TO THE CITY.

IF WE LEAVE FOR ANYTHING, IT'S NOT MINE.

ANY IMPROVEMENTS, I DO, THAT'S Y'ALL'S NOW AND THEN.

SO TO CHARGE US MORE AND TO DO LESS, THAT'S HARD.

THAT'S A SLAP IN THE FACE.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

JAVIER, I HAVE A QUESTION.

WHY $10? WHY NOT MORE? WHY NOT LESS? AND WHAT WOULD YOU, YOUR DEPARTMENT RECEIVES THIS MONEY, WHAT ARE YOU TO DO WITH THIS MONEY? SO IT WOULD, IT WOULD OF COURSE STAY, WE HOPE IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WHERE WE COULD TURN AROUND AND USE IT, UM, TO MAINTAIN THE FIELDS.

UM, BUT WHAT HAPPENED IS THAT WHAT WE, WHAT WE DID WAS WE GOT, WE GOT NUMBERS FROM OTHER CITIES, RIGHT? AND SO WE WERE SHARING WITH THE BOARD, WE SHARED WITH THE LEAGUES.

AND SO ONE OF THE LEAGUE REPRESENTATIVES SAYS, YOU KNOW, WHY DON'T YOU JUST ROUND IT UP TO $10 AND SO THAT'S WHERE THAT $10 CAME FROM.

UM, AND SO THE BOARD WENT WITH $10 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE, THE LEAGUES, UM, PRETTY MUCH SHARED, UH, THAT THEY WERE COMFORTABLE WITH.

AND, AND, AND AT $10, APPROXIMATELY HOW MUCH MONEY WOULD YOU RECEIVE? THIS IS ON A 12 MONTH BASIS OR PER SEASON? IT'LL BE PER SEASON.

SO EVERY SEASON THEY WOULD, WOULD GO BASED ON THEIR ROSTER, THEY WOULD PAY THE, THE $10.

OKAY.

AND HOW MUCH IN THEORY, WOULD YOU RECEIVE FROM THIS? SO BASED ON THEIR, UM, UH, REGISTRANT.

SO FOR, LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, THE SOCCER, RIGHT? SO THEY HAD 680, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'D GET THE 68,000 OR 6,000, 6,800.

SIX.

6,800.

YEAH.

HOW MANY TIMES? AND, AND SO YOU'RE COLLECTING TWICE A YEAR? MM-HMM.

2000 OR 20,400 JUST FROM THE SOCCER LEAGUE, 20,000, BUT ON THE BASE.

SO I'M JUST, I'M JUST, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HE SAID.

I GET, I GOT THE NUMBER THAT YOU GUYS GAVE, THE SIX, WHATEVER, THE SIX 80, THE SIX 80 TIMES THREE SEASONS TIMES, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE, JUST LIKE BOBBY WAS MENTIONING, RIGHT.

INFLATION.

RIGHT.

SO, UM, EVERYTHING'S GOING UP.

EVEN, EVEN THE MATERIAL THAT WE BUY, WHICH IS TO PAINT THE FIELDS.

UM, AND THEN IF THEY WANT A DIFFERENT COLOR, THEN THAT'S MORE EXPENSIVE.

WHAT DO WE PAY FOR, FOR THE, SO YEAH, SO WE GOT A, WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA LINE, UM, ALL THE FIELDS, RIGHT? SO ESPECIALLY WHEN ALL THE SEASONS ARE GOING ON.

UM, AND THEN SOMETIMES WE DO IT TWICE, THREE TIMES A WEEK.

'CAUSE THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY, UM, AS THEY'RE PLAYING ON 'EM, RIGHT, THEY DISAPPEAR.

SO WE GOTTA GO BACK OUT AND, AND STRIPE 'EM AGAIN.

AND SO EVERY TIME WE GOTTA BUY THAT MATERIAL, YOU KNOW, SO IT GETS EXPENSIVE.

AND THAT'S NOT TO MENTION EVEN LIKE THE MAINTENANCE OF THE FIELD, THE LIGHTS.

UM, I KNOW JUST RECENTLY AT THE, AT THE SPORTS COMPLEX, YOU GUYS WERE PUTTING IN SOME DIRT FOR THE SOFTBALL LEAGUES.

MM-HMM.

.

AND I KNOW THAT ONE OF THE MAJOR CONCERNS, AT LEAST FOR THE SOCCER LEAGUES IS THE DIRT, YOU KNOW, THERE THAT YOU HAVE AS WELL.

AND I KNOW AT VEST PARK, THEY WANT A CONCESS, UH, CONCESSION STAND, SO THAT I'M ASSUMING IT'S GONNA COST A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS JUST TO PUT THAT IN AS WELL.

SO ALL THIS MONEY IS GONNA, HOPEFULLY, WHAT SHOULD STAY IN THE, IN THE PARK DEPARTMENT.

AND THIS IS GOING TO, WHILE THIS MONEY'S NOT, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY'S JUST KEEPING, IT'S JUST GOING DIRECTLY BACK TO YOU GUYS, TO THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S GOING BACK TO IMPROVE THE FIELD SO THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE THE FIELDS THAT ARE WORTHY OF THE TOURNAMENTS THAT YOU THAT, THAT WE WANT TO BRING TO HAREN.

THAT'S BASICALLY THE WAY IT WAS.

THAT'S BASICALLY THE WAY I'M SEEING IT.

MM-HMM.

J WHEN YOU WERE, UM, RESEARCHING

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THE, THE FEES ON NEIGHBORING CITIES, WERE THERE ANY, UH, WAS THIS KIND OF IN LINE WITH WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE ASKING FOR? AS FAR AS THE FEES? YES.

UH, NO.

I BELIEVE IT WAS $7.

$7.

$7 WAS WHAT WAS ON AVERAGE FOR THE OTHERS, RIGHT.

WHAT OTHER CITIES WERE CHARGING AND FOR, I GUESS HISTORICALLY FOREVER IT HAD ONLY BEEN $1, UM, ON THE CONTRACT, IS THAT RIGHT? RIGHT.

IT WAS $1 FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR FOR, UH, FOR THE CONTRACT.

SO IT WASN'T INDIVIDUAL, UM, PARTICIPANTS BASED ON PARTICIPANTS.

OKAY.

SO JAVIER, WOULD YOU BE COMFORTABLE WITH $7? SURE.

THANKS MIKE.

THAT'S MY, WAS GONNA BE MY NEXT QUESTION.

I WAS HOPING FOR FIVE.

WE'RE WE'RE HAVING A REVERSE AUCTION HERE, FOLKS.

SO LONG IS THEY'RE IN LINE.

YOU KNOW WHAT SURROUNDING, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE KEEP IT IN LINE WITH WHAT THE OTHER CITIES ARE DOING BECAUSE PRICES ARE GOING UP FOR EVERYTHING.

AND FROM WHAT I'M HEARING, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I'M REPEATING MYSELF, BUT FROM WHAT I'M HEARING, IT SEEMS THAT OUR PARKS NEED A LOT OF HELP.

THEY NEED A LOT OF NEW STUFF.

AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT DOES COST MONEY.

AND, UM, THIS IS GOING TO BE PART OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE MONEY THAT'S GONNA GO INTO, LIKE I SAID, IT'S GOING BACK TO THE FIELDS.

NOBODY'S KEEPING IT, NOBODY'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING BACK TO THE FIELDS TO PROVIDE FOR YOUR TOURNAMENTS FOR THE KIDS, FOR EVERYTHING.

SO LESS MAINTENANCE BECAUSE LINE, I THINK WHAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TOO HERE IS SINCE YOU'RE EARMARKING THAT MONEY SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE FIELDS, UM, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE TRANSPARENT IN THAT AND, AND POTENTIALLY MAYBE HAVING TWICE A YEAR, WE, WE LOOK TO SEE THE MONEY THAT WAS COLLECTED AND, AND HOW IT WENT BACK TO THOSE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE FIELDS.

MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

MA'AM, DID YOU WANNA SPEAK? YEAH, JUST IF YOU CAN COME TO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE.

THIS IS WAY MORE COMPLEX THAN, AND WHICH ORGANIZATION ARE YOU WITH? I'M LORI D***S.

I'M WITH AYA YOUTH SOCCER.

SO WE OVERSEE THE, ALL THE CLUBS WITHIN BROWNSVILLE, HARLINGEN, AND EDINBURG.

UM, SO TO NOTE ON THAT, BROWNSVILLE DOES CHARGE THE PLAYERS $9, BUT THAT INCLUDES LINING THE FIELDS.

ANY CARE THAT THEY HAVE TO DO ON THE FIELDS, THEY TAKE CARE OF THE FIELDS.

UM, AND OUR FIELDS IN EDINBURG, WE DON'T, I'M OUT THERE LINING THE FIELDS MYSELF.

I HAVE TO BUY THE PAINT, BUT I, BUT THAT IN COMPARISON, LIKE IN THE COMMENTS MENTIONED IN COMPARISON TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, SOCCER, THIS IS JUST THEIR OPENING, THE CLUB'S OPENING SEASON, THEY'RE STILL GONNA GROW.

FALL IS USUALLY THE BIGGEST.

SO IT'S SUMMER.

SO AT 680, THAT'S, I MEAN, EVEN AT THAT, THAT'S 18,000 A YEAR FOR JUST THEM ADDING IN ALL THE OTHER ONES AND NOT PROVIDING ANYTHING ON THE FIELDS.

AND THEY HAVE TO BUY THEIR OWN TOILET PAPER AND SOAP.

THAT'S A LOT FOR, I MEAN, THE PRODUCTION OF THE PRICE IS NICE, BUT WE'RE STILL A 5 0 1.

WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF KIDS THAT PLAY ON SCHOLARSHIP.

OUR ORGANIZATION STRIVES VERY HARD.

WE KNOW THE ECONOMIC LEVELS IN THE DEMOGRAPHICS THAT WE HAVE IN THE COUNTIES HERE.

AND WE COVER KIDS ALL THE WAY FROM STAR COUNTY.

IT ALL GO AND CAMERON AND EVEN INTO RAYMONDVILLE.

WE EVEN BRING IN TEAMS FROM IN KINGSVILLE.

AND IF THE KIDS CAN'T AFFORD IT, WE PAY FOR IT.

UM, THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT GOES.

THAT'S, THAT'S A LOT FROM THE KIDS.

WE, WE CHARGE 60 TO $70 A PLAYER FOR A FULL SEASON, INCLUDE THEIR UNIFORM.

AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S, IT'S A LOT.

IF FOR THOSE KIND OF PAYMENTS, EACH ONE, WE STILL HAVE TO PAY THE STATE, THE STATE CHARGES US FOR, TO INCLUDE THE INSURANCE THAT YOU ALL ASK US TO PROVIDE.

SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, CITIES, THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE.

BUT I THINK ALSO IN LINE, IN PART WITH PUBLIC PARKS, IT'S A VERY HARD PLACE FOR THE CITY TO SIT ON.

IT'S A PUBLIC PARK.

EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO IT.

BUT AGAIN, ON THAT NOTE, WHEN CERTAIN PEOPLE DO HAVE TO PAY INTO IT AND DO HAVE TO GET THE CONTRACTS, AND NO, NONE OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO SIT THERE 24 7.

NEITHER CAN YOU ALL.

AND NEITHER DOES PARKS AND REC MONITOR EVERYBODY WHO'S GONNA BE THERE.

WHICH MEANS THAT THE MONEY THAT WE'RE SPENDING FOR GOALS, FOR WHATEVER EACH LEAGUE BUYS IS GONNA BE USED BY PUBLIC.

AND WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S GONNA POSSIBLY DAMAGE IT.

IT'S GONNA FALL ON US WHO HAS THE CONTRACT.

AND THOSE ARE ALL RISKS WE TAKE, JUST LIKE YOU ALL DO.

BUT WE'RE THE ONES THAT ARE PAYING INTO IT BY EACH PLAYER.

WHEREAS IN YES, SOME OF THE OTHER ONES ON A PUBLIC PART, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE COMPLEXES THAT ARE SPECIFIC, WHERE IT'S GONNA BE FIELD BY FIELD, IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE WORKABLE.

BUT WE ALSO NEED TO BE ABLE TO KNOW WHAT DO YOU ALL WANT US TO TELL THEM? WHERE, WHAT DO YOU ALL WANT US TO TELL THEM WHEN WE SHOW UP AND THEY'RE ON THE FIELDS THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO USE? WHAT AUTHORITY DO YOU WANT US TO, OR WHAT COMMENTS DO YOU WANT US TO DO? WHAT PROTOCOL DO YOU WANT US TO FOLLOW? WHO'S GONNA COME OUT AND TELL THEM THEY NEED TO GO WHEN THEY TELL US WHO ARE YOU? WE'RE NOT GONNA LISTEN TO YOU, GABE.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THEY NEED TO CALL PD.

I REALLY WOULD NOT WANT YOU RIGHT.

TO ACTUALLY CONFRONT ANYBODY ELSE, BECAUSE THAT COULD BE AN ISSUE.

GABE, GABE, THIS IS A, UH, ACTION ITEM.

I MEAN, THIS IS, I'M STUNNED BY THE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION, UH, THAT YOU

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HAVE ALL HAVE TOLD US.

AND, UM, THIS IS WAY DEEPER THAN I THOUGHT WALKING INTO THIS.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO TABLE THIS.

WE, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE PIG ACTION JUST A SO THAT, SO THAT GABE AND NAVIER AND OUR ATTORNEY MARK, WE COULD ALL GET TOGETHER.

UM, 'CAUSE THERE'S STILL TOO MANY LOOSE ENDS IN THIS.

AND, AND I ROOT FOR ALL YOUR SUCCESS AND KIDS ARE VALUABLE AND YOU DO THE BEST FOR 'EM.

AND I LOVE IT AND I APPRECIATE IT.

BUT YEAH, WE'RE NOT, WE WEREN'T EXPECTING TO TAKE ANY ACTION TONIGHT.

OO OKAY THEN REALLY? YEAH.

AND WE'LL, WE'LL, UH, I'LL GET TOGETHER WITH MARK SO WE CAN LOOK AT, UM, HOW TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE, GO AHEAD.

UH, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM.

UM, MY NAME IS MONICA RODRIGUEZ.

I'M A VP FOR THE NEW HARING AND LEAGUE.

UM, MY QUESTION, COMMENT I GUESS IS, I KNOW WE'VE BEEN ASKING, UM, FOR, WE'VE MET WITH JAVIER AND LUPE, THEY'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, HELPING US WITH WHAT THEY CAN.

BUT MY QUESTION IS, WE HAVE BEEN ASKING, OR THEY ASKED US TO DO THAT REST PERIOD.

WE REALLY HAVEN'T HAD A SEASON DUE TO WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST WITH THE OLD LEAGUE SINCE MAYBE NOVEMBER.

AND WE'VE ASKED WHEN IS THE START OF THE FIELDS GONNA, THE WORK ON THE FIELD'S GONNA START FOR THOSE 3, 4, 5, AND SIX AND WE STILL HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING BEING DONE.

SO THAT, THAT'S JUST MY QUESTION.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW, ARE SEASONS GONNA START? WHEN IS THE WORK ON THE FIELDS GONNA START? BECAUSE WE ARE LIMITED, SOME OF THOSE U 11, U 12 FIELDS, WE'VE ONLY HAVE TWO.

AND IN THE CONTRACT IT ONLY STATES WE CAN USE 'EM FOR THE TOURNAMENT.

SO THERE ARE SOME, I THINK WITH THIS CONTRACT TO TRY TO MAKE IT SPECIFIC FOR ALL THE CLUBS, I THINK GONNA BE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT.

I THINK MAYBE A WAY TO WORK TOGETHER AND MAKE A CONTRACT THAT'S FIT PER CLUB, MAYBE FOR SOME SPECIFIC LINED ITEMS THAT IS ONLY GONNA PERTAIN TO SOCCER OR ONLY GONNA PERTAIN TO SOFTBALL OR CHEERLEADING OR ANYTHING ELSE.

BUT, UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY IN REFERENCE TO.

SO, UM, WE, UM, WE'RE WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND SO THEIR EQUIPMENT WAS OF COURSE, TIED UP OVER AT, UH, LON HILL.

AND SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE AGREED THAT WE WERE GONNA GO OUT THERE ON WEDNESDAY AND START WORKING ON, ON FIELDS, UH, 3, 4, 5, AND SIX.

UM, BUT I MEAN, IF THEIR LEAGUE IS, IS RAMPING UP AND THEY NEED THOSE FIELDS, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE MAY WANNA WORK WITH THEM AND, AND POSTPONE, UM, MOVING ON THEM OR JUST MAYBE DOING THREE AND FOUR, LET THEM USE FIVE AND SIX.

UM, BUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO GO IN THERE AND, UM, REMOVE THE SOIL AND THEN REPLACE ALL THE, THE IRRIGATION LINES.

WE'RE GONNA KEEP THE MAIN LINES, WE HAVE THE WATER, EVERYTHING ELSE, UM, BUT WE JUST NEED TO REPLACE THE, THE, UM, UH, THE LINES AND THE SMALLER LINES AND THEN THE SPRINKLER HEADS.

AND WOULD YOU MAKE ED, IS IT, IS IT POSSIBLE, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN, UH, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, HAVING A CONTRACT AND BEING ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE FIELD AND NOT HAVING TO PUT IN, BEING PUT IN AWKWARD POSITIONS WHEN OTHERS ARE ON THE FIELD AND, YOU KNOW, UH, AND, AND WHAT STEPS SHOULD, SHOULD THEY TAKE WHEN THAT HAPPENS? IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO HAVE SOME KIND OF, UM, LIKE A BULLETIN BOARD OF SOME KIND AT EACH OF THESE FIELDS? NOT A COURT BOARD, BUT MAYBE SOMETHING THAT'S SIMILAR TO LIKE WHAT WE HAVE IN CITY HALL WHERE WE CAN, UM, OPEN THAT UP AND, AND, AND POST THEIR, UH, THE DIFFERENT, UH, I GUESS LEAGUES THAT ARE OCCUPYING THOSE FIELDS, THE TIMES THAT THEY DO.

AND, AND SO THAT WAY THERE'S SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN REFERENCE AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ARE THE DESIGNATED ORGANIZATION AT THIS FIELD AT THIS TIME.

AND, AND, AND, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN SUPPORT THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS AND, AND YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ON NOTICE THAT THOSE FIELDS AT THAT, DURING THOSE TIMES ARE BEING UTILIZED.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO? IS THAT COSTLY? YEAH, WE COULD DO THAT AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ALSO MAYBE PUT SOME SIGNAGE UP THAT THEY, UH, THE LEAGUES ARE UNDER CONTRACT.

UH, WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT SPECIFIC NAMES OR, OR LEAGUE NAMES, BUT WE CAN PUT THAT MM-HMM, THEY'RE UNDER CONTRACT AND THAT, UM, UH, FOR ANY, YOU KNOW, USAGE, THEY WOULD'VE TO, UM, CONTACT OUR OFFICE.

YEAH.

AND MAYBE WE, WE, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT IN TERMS OF AN ORDINANCE, UH, THE COMMISSION TO SAY THAT LEAGUES THAT DO NOT HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF PAREN ARE NOT ALLOWED TO UTILIZE FIELDS.

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IT'S DIFFERENT WHEN YOU, YOU HAVE A LEAGUE, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY PRACTICING VERSUS SOMEONE OUT, YOU KNOW, GOING OUT THERE TO THROW A FOOTBALL WITH THEIR KID.

SO I THINK THAT THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN TACKLE IT FROM BOTH SIDES IF, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.

UM, MARK? YES MA'AM.

THANK YOU AGAIN.

OKAY.

UM, ABEL, ONE MORE TIME REAL QUICK THOUGH.

MAKE IT QUICK, PLEASE.

UM, YOU CUT ME OFF.

UH, ONE THING IS LIKE, I KNOW THAT ONE, EVEN AT $5, LIKE, LIKE I WAS SAYING, WE DON'T HAVE A WAY TO GENERATE THOSE $5 COMPARED TO OTHER FIELDS.

I KNOW LIKE THE SOCCER FIELDS ARE WIDE OPEN.

PEOPLE CAN, THEY, LET'S SAY THEY'RE PAYING THAT MONEY TO GET THE FIELD STRIPED AND THERE'S A GAME COMING UP AND SOMEBODY'S GONNA COME AND USE THOSE FIELDS, MESS UP THE STRIPING ON THOSE FIELDS, UH, VERSUS LIKE THE BASEBALL FIELDS AND THE FOOTBALL FIELD THAT AT VICTOR PARK, I MEAN, YOU CAN CLOSE YOUR FIELD IN AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA MESS WITH ANY STRIPING.

AND OVER HERE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, LIKE MY WIFE WAS SAYING EARLIER, THEY COME DO BASEBALL, FOOTBALL, UH, I'VE SEEN ALL KINDS OF SPORTS OUT THERE AND IT JUST, I DON'T THINK THE, THE EVERY ORGANIZATION IS ON THE LEVEL OR A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.

YOU KNOW, I JUST, I DON'T, I THINK, UH, YOU NEED TO LOOK AT EVERY ORGANIZATION IN A DIFFERENT WAY OF WHO CAN PAY IT.

WE DON'T HAVE A WAY OTHER THAN REGISTRATION TO FUND ANYTHING.

WE DON'T HAVE A CONCESSION STAND.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

SO, WELL, THE WAY TO GET THAT CONCESSION STAND IS THROUGH THE FEE.

AND THEN I KNOW YOU WERE MENTIONING ABOUT FENCING AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THE FENCING WOULD, THAT MONEY THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY GET THE CITY WOULD GET, WOULD POTENTIALLY GO INTO POSSIBLY GETTING FENCING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

WELL THEN PUT US OFF UNTIL WE GET A CONCESSION STAND AND THEN ONCE WE GET THE PROPER FACILITIES TO COMPETE WITH EVERYBODY ELSE, THEN IT SHOULD, I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY FAIR WAY TO DO IT.

EVERYBODY HAS TO BE EQUAL, BUT WELL, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL TALK LATER.

OKAY, ABEL? ALRIGHT.

YOU GOT MY NUMBER? YOU CALL ME ALL THE TIME.

.

OKAY.

UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? NO, I, I HAVE ONE.

I HAVE ONE.

OKAY.

LAST ONE AND I'LL MAKE IT QUICK.

OKAY, SO I'M A NUMBERS GUY.

UH, MY NAME IS JOSH, BY THE WAY.

I'M A COACH FOR HAR HARON FOOTBALL.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE $7 FEE AND YOU KNOW, THEY DECIDED CASUALLY, EXCUSE MY WORD, IT'S THERE, BUT TO JUST ROUND IT UP TO 10, RIGHT? AND THEN SOME PEOPLE ARE SUGGESTING DOING A FIVE.

UM, MY RECOMMENDATION IS, IS LET'S JUST DO A FLAT RATE, IF ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THE COST OF THE MAINTENANCE OF THE FIELDS ARE GONNA BE THE SAME REGARDLESS.

YOU KNOW, EVEN IF YOU HAD 80 KIDS VERSUS 40 KIDS, THE MAINTENANCE IS STILL GONNA BE THE SAME.

SO THE COST SHOULD BE AROUND THE SAME AS WELL.

SO INSTEAD OF DOING IT PER KID, YOU KNOW, FIGURE THE, THE AMOUNT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE TO MAINTAIN THESE FIELDS AND THEN JUST DO A FLAT RATE.

UH, AND IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, MORE ECONOMICAL VERSUS, YOU KNOW, $7 TO $10.

UM, THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION.

INSTEAD OF TRYING TO DO IT PER CHILD, UH, JUST SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW, FOR ALL THE LEAGUES DO, DO, DO, DO YOU KNOW THIS, DO THAT RATE, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING AS WELL, BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH SOME OF THESE OTHER CITIES AROUND US ARE DOING IT PER CHILD, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW THOSE THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN DO SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE MORE ADVANTAGEOUS TO BOTH THE CITY AS WELL AS TO THE, THE LEAGUES BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE HAS ALREADY EXPRESSED, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S TIED OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? INFLATION'S HITTING EVERYTHING.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THE LAST THING WE WANNA DO IS PASS IT ON TO, YOU KNOW, OUR CUSTOMERS, WHICH ARE THE KIDS, YOU KNOW, THE KIDS' PARENTS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM OFF THE STREETS AND THAT, AND, YOU KNOW, DOING, YOU KNOW, GOOD QUALITY THINGS THROUGH SPORTS.

SO JUST A SUGGESTION, WHEN YOU GUYS ARE, YOU KNOW, GOING OVER THE NUMBERS AND STUFF, MAYBE JUST CONSIDER DOING JUST A FLAT RATE FEE INSTEAD OF FOR CHILD.

AND THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE ADVANTAGEOUS TO BOTH THE CITY AS WELL AS TO THE, THE LEAGUES.

SO THAT'S IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THIS.

THANK YOU.

ITEM TWO, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RECOMMENDATIONS TO SPORTS LEAGUE CONTRACTS.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? I DON'T THINK, NO, I'M MAKING, I'M MAKING A MOTION TO TABLE.

YEAH.

SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

AGAINST MOTION PASSES.

OKAY, ITEM NUMBER THREE IS ADJOURNMENT.

WE ARE ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU ALL.